V&A cruise ship ban concerns Cape Town

2012-01-13 10:44

Cape Town - The City of Cape Town is concerned about the impact of a home affairs ban on passenger ships docking at the V&A Waterfront in Cape Town.

At least 13 cruise ships including the Silver Wind, National Geographic Explorer and Queen Mary are scheduled to visit Cape Town between January and May 2012, but a recent ruling by the department of home affairs means that cruise liners will have to dock in Duncan Dock with immediate effect.

“We are obviously uneasy about the possible impact of this ruling on Cape Town’s status and reputation as a cruise tourism destination as well as on tourism revenues to the city," mayoral committee member for tourism events and marketing Grant Pascoe said.

Pascoe said the city had noted concerns about security risks underlying the decision.

“We will discuss the ruling with the relevant authorities to find a way to best serve Cape Town’s tourism interests, without compromising the status of the port as a secured area,” he said.

'Not consulted'

In 2011, 19 visiting cruise ships accounted for approximately 18 000 visitors to the V&A Waterfront.

Industry expert and shipping commentator Brian Ingpen said in the Cape Times newspaper on Friday that “security hawks” have torpedoed one of the world’s greatest cruise liner berths.

“Tariq Mellet, director of immigration in the Western Cape, apparently informed Sars (SA Revenue Service), Customs and Border Management in December that the Ministers of Home Affairs and Public Enterprises had decided that, because of security consideration and Home Affairs regulations, passenger vessels may not berth at the Waterfront, but must be accommodated in the Duncan Dock,” Ingpen wrote.

He said Home Affairs apparently did not regard the number two jetty as a legitimate entry point, “yet passengers have been embarking and disembarking there for over 100 years, and numerous other vessels, including international yachts, berth there".

He said at the time of writing his comment, “few shipping folks knew of this step, and were obviously not consulted beforehand".

'Ideal berth'

“It appears that the port authorities were instructed to comply with the decision, and one wonders whether they had been consulted.

“As he seems to be the originator of the news, Mr Mellet should let us know whether there is an imminent threat to cruise liners at the Waterfront, and he should divulge whom the illustrious ministers consulted before they made this curious and far-reaching decision,” Ingpen said.

“An ideal berth for cruise liners up to 200m, Number Two Jetty is close to the Waterfront shops and restaurants where passengers collectively spend millions.

“Perhaps the ministers could also tell us whether the Duncan Dock, Durban, or any harbour is safer than the Waterfront, given that yachts, fishing vessels and numerous ships pass close to cruise liners wherever they berth.”

  • Citizen - 2012-01-13 10:59

    Bizarre ruling, this could cost the V&A millions, never mind the negative press around the world...WTH is going on?

      Kala - 2012-01-13 11:11

      This is how the Goverment works. If there is something that seems to be benefitting the people of the country then it must be stopped. The ministers are upset about the V&A Waterfront being used as a diembarkation point as they were not consulted what payment they would receive for allowing visitors to disembark.

      Grunt - 2012-01-13 14:45

      iYesss... The new owners of the V&A are predominantly government, as it was bought for the state pension fund. Talk about shooting yourself in the foot.

      John - 2012-01-13 20:53

      We are governed by manparas who just want to steal everything they see, or manparas who wish to believe that the communist false propaganda is true.

      Sean - 2012-01-15 03:14

      That comes if you put incompetent banana feeding mammals in charge !!

  • Hermann - 2012-01-13 11:05

    Hey, it works, it is Cape Town and it is DA, so let us sabotage it. Enough said.

  • Eduard - 2012-01-13 11:06

    why is the government so short sighted? they just cannot grow a country, they can only mingle and screw things up....from sports to finance to crime to education and now tourism It is time for change....

  • frans.grobler3 - 2012-01-13 11:09

    Prodly SA my a"s!

  • Perfume - 2012-01-13 11:11

    What do Horror Affairs know - what is the Port Authorities saying about this??

  • Perfume - 2012-01-13 11:13

    Worry about the illegal immigrants invading our country Horror Affairs and leave Port Authorities to handle this, as far as I know the only time Horror Affairs has anything to do with vessels is when their immigration officers are called to check that the manifest and head count is right.

  • ludlowdj - 2012-01-13 11:16

    Of course this has more to do with the ANC not being able to take control of the Cape more than any real security concerns, however the main thrust of late has been to tighten security to the point of suffocation as is shown by the replacement of customs officers with military personnel. This has nothing to do with the safety of South Africans though and everything to do with the safety of foreign politicians and the wealth who are expected to start flooding our shores during the course of this year. When the truth comes out the people of this country are going to tear down the ANC's little palace and rightly so.

  • alexander.lombard - 2012-01-13 11:25

    I think someone must look into future developmet plans at the new proposed site and maybe who owns the property close to it.

  • Clio - 2012-01-13 11:26

    How completely pathetic!!! Cape Town so badly needs a cruise terminal..isn't there someone out there with pots of money to invest in this?? Govt completely short sighted!!!

  • Sharon - 2012-01-13 11:37


  • PyroSA - 2012-01-13 11:56

    As quoted - this cannot be security related. This obviously would benefit Durban to the detriment of Cape Town. And the people who only chose it because of the Cape Town part of the equation for sight-seeing reasons will just decide to not spend their money on SA at all.

  • Mark - 2012-01-13 12:10

    Obvious attempt to sabotage the DA administration of the Cape. Which devious gvt minister is responsible for disgorging this garbage?

  • Maximus Odinidus - 2012-01-13 12:13

    I think this is a stupid idea, they could in fact have created a few more jobs by creating a satellite home affairs office along with a customs office. At Least 10 jobs could have been created. A small number indeed but something none the less.

  • nigel.forshaw - 2012-01-13 12:42

    What is the hidden agenda behind this decision?

  • Mike - 2012-01-13 12:47

    Time for the WC to declare UDI

  • Paul - 2012-01-13 13:12

    Retarded! It makes no sense what so every to berth 2 to 3 km away for one of your prime locations in the Western Cape or will there be a transportation system in place to take these visitors to the V&A or will they be expected to pay a meter Taxi to get there? that of course is going to rip them off!

  • Alva - 2012-01-13 13:16

    I am going to get the thumbs down for this but......All international vessels should dock at the Duncan Dock to clear customs and immigration. V&A is for local craft. In no other country do international ships berth otherwise. Besides, the V&A is a hop and a skip from Duncan Docks so whats the problem?

      Rory - 2012-01-13 13:42

      Try Nassau, Freeport, Key West ...

  • Paul - 2012-01-13 13:38

    Retarded! It makes no sense what so every to berth 2 to 3 km away for one of your prime locations in the Western Cape or will there be a transportation system in place to take these visitors to the V&A or will they be expected to pay a meter Taxi to get there? that of course is going to rip them off!

  • Barry - 2012-01-13 13:47

    Mike - UDI what a brilliant suggestion

  • Harald - 2012-01-13 14:06

    For anyone who has been to Duncan dock, you will know that it is a working dock, with trucks, towers etc etc... Nice for our tourists to have to navigate that before comming out on Duncan Road, then you could try find a Taxi, or walk the 4 k'a to the V&A, in the rain and wind. Really make them love SA... These guys are seriously doff....

  • Janice - 2012-01-13 14:09

    WHY why why???

      David - 2012-01-14 10:30

      The fact is that 90% of the worlds cruise ships and cruise liners are too large to fit into the V&A due mainly to draft restrictions. Even SA's famous tug the John Ross (now Smit Amandla)has a draft which is too large to safely berth in the V&A.

  • KCorsar - 2012-01-13 14:13

    This is a techncrat at work, thinking nothing on marketing, economic growth and development. Western Cape Local Government should appeal and challenge this soonest; otherwise cruises may drop Cape Twon from agendas, or passengers will not see this as an attractive option. Who wants to disembark from a 5* liner in a working harbour?

      Gail - 2012-01-14 14:02

      Perhaps this is an attempt to have the liners dock in Port Elizabeth or Durban or even Ngura? Why should Cape Town get ALL the tourists? The eastern Cape is in dire need of tourists and has the big 7 and mountains and wonderful places to see within an hour of the city. We don't have Table Mountain admittedly but we do have mountains with wild animals and wonderful bird life and biodiversity here as well as terrible unemployment since the govt is moving virtually any industry in this area to either Gauteng or Western Cape. We desperately need employment created here and where are the new trains going to be situated but in Gauteng.

  • Faith - 2012-01-13 14:20

    Another plan to jeopardize the golden goose that lays the eggs... What is wrong with these people?

  • gembleton1 - 2012-01-13 14:41

    Durban operates form a disused warehouse with no security , you can sail up and touch a cruise ship in Durban harbour, in Cape town they have a world class facility and no some twat BEE uneducated and unqualified government idiot will try and st*ff that up go fig only in SA

  • wayne.rademeyer - 2012-01-13 14:54

    never mind, i arrived back from Brazil on the weekend and was let through passport contorl with just a stamp! The scanner was not working for my new passport so at this point the government does not even know i'm back in the country! Man i love Africa

  • cathy.ronaasen - 2012-01-13 16:36

    This could be turned into an opportunity for The City of Cape Town. Why not run a MyCiti bus as a shuttle service to the V&A when there is a ship docked?

  • Deeteem - 2012-01-13 16:42

    This is like making international flights land on Robben Island !! Idiots could not organise a piss up in a brewery !!

  • Mike - 2012-01-13 17:04

    The clearing of any ship is done by Home Affairs onboard - thereafter no passports are needed to go ashore as passengers and crew identify themselves with their onboard key cards; which carry a picture of the passenger or crew - what is Home Affairs' issue; clearing the ships in the V&A or at any other pier would not make any difference... I smell that this comes from a pathetic little wimp who just likes to play a bit of power.... like when I arrived yesterday at Golela Border from Swaziland - my exit stamp from Swaziland reads 12 January 2012 - my entry stamp in to the RSA 12 January 2011.... I rest my case!

  • Heinrich - 2012-01-13 17:43

    Cruise ships take something like 2000 passengers? Where does the all the ship's waste go while it is berthed?

      Pete - 2012-01-13 18:52

      They keep it on board in port, then dump it at sea when nobody's looking.

  • Pete - 2012-01-13 18:29

    To say that passenger/cruise ships have been discharging passengers in the Victoria Basin "for over 100 years" is arrant nonsense. From the time the Duncan Dock was opened after the war, passenger operations were moved and, indeed, No 2 Jetty specifically was never used for commercial passenger calls. Also, considering the jetty is only 195m long, berthing "200m long cruise ships at it would be inadvisable, if not hazardous. No 2 Jetty and, indeed, any jetty/quay in the V&A doesn't have the facilities to process passengers, and the mess and danger on the quaside of having delivery vehicles offloading stores for the ship with passengers and sightseers milling about would be great indeed. Having said that, passenger/sightseer facilities in the Duncan Dock aren't great either. But the V&A as a passenger terminal? Nope.

      melletpt - 2012-01-13 18:38

      There has been no recent decision to ban anything. There has been a longstanding problem of non-compliance with the Immigration Act in Cape Town Harbour where Home Affairs have simply taken recent steps to ensure compliance. The V&A Waterfront is a non-secured private enterprise commercial and recreational multi-purpose entity. It is similar to the South African zone at the Cape Town International Airport (CTIA). Duncan Docks, similar to the international zone at CTIA is a declared secure International Port – declared as such by the Minister of Home Affairs and compliant with international standards of security. It has a secure perimeter fence and controlled access, whereas the V&A Waterfront does not. The Minister makes such decisions with due regard to South Africa’s international commitments and the impacts of compliance with these on our economy and security. The Port Authority has made unilateral decisions without consulting the Minister of Home Affairs to allow passenger vessels to occasionally dock in an unsecured, private commercial/recreational area without regard to the law. Although informed of this over three months ago TNPA in Cape Town Harbour were yet to become compliant. It seems that this reluctance is what has led to the present furore. At a national level Public Enterprises and the TNPA had also informed the TNPA at Cape Town Harbour of the need to be compliant with legislation and their support of the Minister’s directive.

      melletpt - 2012-01-13 18:40

      The fact is that cruise ships have been docking wherever the Port authority found convenient for their own commercial interests and the interest of Shipping Agents. The wellbeing of passengers has been the least of their considerations. This can be illustrated by the long experience that immigration officials have had with negative occurrences when clearing passengers at sites all over Cape Town harbour. The information about V&A Waterfront being the main berthing dock for Passenger Liners is simply false. It is simply one site that is occasionally used, while the dangerous Eastern Mole site was frequently used as has been the E Berth site, which has been identified to be developed as a permanent cruise ship berth with a dedicated passenger terminal. Jetty 2 at V&A Waterfront has been occasionally used when E Berth in Duncan Dock or Eastern Mole has not been used. The Port Authority has for years avoided providing a decent safe, comfortable and secure permanent passenger liner berth and terminal for the security and comfort of passengers based on the fact that this is not considered to be profitable.

      melletpt - 2012-01-13 18:42

      If anyone had consulted the role-players charged with clearing passengers, he would have clearly seen that Cruise Ship tourists are getting a raw deal and that the department wants decent facilities at the harbour similar to that at Cape Town International Airport. For many years the business community and tourism sector have also been calling for exactly the same thing in which Home Affairs has taken the lead – the establishment of a dedicated passenger terminal for cruise liners where passengers can be cleared professionally. This will also help to grow this tourism niche which has great potential for the economy and job creation. Surely this is also what the City of Cape Town and the Provincial government would like to see? The present scenario where these vessels are berthed wherever they can be fitted in, at the convenience of the port authority is unacceptable. Passengers have to be unacceptably cleared in make-shift tents and marquees, and sometimes even on board ship. Chaotic conditions result in passengers not being cleared and wandering off and baggage going missing.

      melletpt - 2012-01-13 18:43

      Customs officials battle to handle luggage clearances and the Department of Health and Department of Agriculture, Forestry and Fisheries battle to carry out their mandates when they have to overcome major hurdles each time a vessel enters port. Transport parking facilities are ad hoc and chaotic too. Passengers have to navigate their way through often chaotic conditions. This is a situation which cannot be allowed to continue without finding a permanent solution. It is a far cry from the glamorous scenario painted in the media about a longstanding high class service that has always been availed to cruise ship tourists. The Shipping Agents often act in an irresponsible manner when turning a fast buck with some add-on activity which becomes more important than safety, security or legal requirements of entry into South Africa. There are a host of other problems. Though Jetty 2 at the V&A Waterfront like anywhere else can be temporarily secured, it requires special security arrangements as it is outside of the permanently secured Duncan Dock. This is impractical for regular cruise ship visits where state agencies do not always know in advance what the Port Authority and Shipping Agents are going to do. A free-for all scenario tends to dominate this kind of arrangement which leaves the ship, passengers and the state vulnerable. Do we have to wait for a disaster to happen such as the bombing at the Waterfront some years ago?

      melletpt - 2012-01-13 18:44

      There is a distinction between the Port Limits and the International Port of Entry, much in the same way as there is domestic and international zones at Cape Town International Airport. In South Africa we have legislation which determines all aspects of how the affairs of the country is governed. In terms of the law, only the Minister of Home Affairs can declare which ports and port limits can be ‘International Ports of Entry to the Republic’ for the purpose of landing and clearing foreign persons into South Africa and foreign conveyances into South Africa. This is also an international practice. Nowhere in the world are people and vessels allowed to just enter any national territory willy nilly where they please. Nobody is above the law and this applies to shipping agents and the port authority as well. Local and Provincial government are required to respect and uphold the Immigration Act which is not negotiable.

      melletpt - 2012-01-13 18:45

      Our harbours like any other key borderline sites are keypoints for possible illegal entry and exit of persons, the illegal importation of drugs, grey goods, arms, and other contraband and, for human trafficking, exporting poached items and so on. Immigration vigilance with cruise ships has in the past found that contraventions take place in this sector in similar manner to what may happen at airports and land ports. We further have problems of stowaways and trespassers to contend with. Piracy and piracy intelligence is also a threat which has moved from the Horn of Africa down into the Mozambique channel and the South African Navy and security services are engaged in tackling this problem. Indeed we have a Passenger Liner Tourism industry to protect. Piracy poses a great threat to cruise ships. Harbour security is a major challenge and has many facets to it. South Africa is a major tourist destination and has a growing Cruise Ship Tourism industry for which it must cater in a professional manner. In fact, the proposals by Home Affairs for a decent dedicated passenger terminal and cruise ship berth can assist in growing the present industry fourfold. Our international harbours have been found grossly wanting in terms of not catering for Cruise Ships.

      melletpt - 2012-01-13 18:45

      The port authority should be paying due regard to the security of the vessels and the passengers and to the comfort of the passengers. For too long we have had NO permanent and professional provision for Cruise Ship passengers in Cape Town. In Cape Town Harbour the Cruise Ships are constantly moved around to wherever the Port Authority feels that they can squeeze in the vessels without regard to national legislation. Home Affairs wants a dedicated berth for Cruise Ships and a dedicated permanent passenger terminal. A presently used site has been identified as a convenient berthing site for the first phase of development of a permanent, secure and pleasant facility. This site is presently one of the three sites that is most often used by the TNPA for Passenger Liners. The Minister of Public Enterprises and the Transnet National Port Authority have supported the Minister of Home Affairs in moving forward to implement this proposal as soon as possible. In the interim first phase it has been proposed that only E Berth be used and interim arrangements made to deal with ships at this point. A property has been identified alongside E Berth where all government agencies can be based under one roof and this will be implemented soon. Unfortunately this side of the story has not been raised and I would not like to speculate as to why there is such an omission from wherever the original misleading information has emanated.

      Andries - 2012-01-13 18:45

      At least ONE thinking man amongst readers and not a sheep in a herd following a leading goat. Thank you, Pete. The article was NOT researched by the reporter - as most News24 reporting goes.

      melletpt - 2012-01-13 18:46

      Home Affairs has taken the lead in driving forward a process that hopes to see Cape Town Harbour having a pleasant, secure and professional permanent berth and passenger terminal, in line with the best international standards, for the first time. The Minister and department officials have visited and inspected such world class facilities in the Caribbean and elsewhere over last year to benchmark with the best in an area where Cruise Ship Tourism thrives. State officials from the Caribbean visited Cape Town Harbour and were shocked at the state of dealing with passenger vessels and had a chance to meet with role-players. For a city with such infrastructure and tourism offerings it was unbelievable to these visitors that we did not have a secure dedicated passenger terminal and a single dedicated Cruise ship berth. Home Affairs has taken an important step that is in the interest of South Africa and our foreign visitors in an area where there has been a lot of muddying of the waters by narrow local interests in Cape Town Harbour and most probably also by syndicates who find it convenient to have security-porous harbours.

      melletpt - 2012-01-13 19:00

      Interestingly information sent to a wide range of media and role-players on this issue has not been published. It is in the public interest to hear what Home Affairs has to say. The original article was by a journalist who has very distorted views about the maritime environment and projects a picture of a wonderful South Africa of the past, that we all know not to be the case.

  • Andries - 2012-01-13 18:36

    This at last a good decision taken on facts. The VA developers NEVER considered to have the facilities to be appropriate for cruise liners. Waterfront does not have the immigration and customs and berthing infrastructure to accommodate large liners. Full stop. Good one, ministers.

      Andries - 2012-01-13 18:39

      AND the article does not portray the actual facts, maybe the reporter should check on these and not merely report someone's biased phone call as facts.

  • Anthony - 2012-01-13 20:22

    wtf is this governmont doing, have they lost it?

  • Terence - 2012-01-13 21:10


  • Sylvia - 2012-01-14 02:29

    Totally ridiculous, and just another example of our government trying to ruin something which is working perfectly. I'm sure there is a political agenda here. They can't bear to see the DA succeed at something they've failed to gain control of.

  • alexandra.nett - 2012-01-14 09:40

    My company works in the port daily and I can assure you that the conditions for passengers disembarking at present are THIRD WORLD. I operate large trucks in the port and have watched many cruise liners stuck between working vessels.....dangerous conditions to say the least, filthy disorganised and CLEARLY NOT a place to allow tourists to see or to be. UPGRADE AND THEN IMPLEMENT.

  • Ian - 2012-01-14 12:19

    anything they touch turns to crappy fat boy nappies

  • johancstoltz - 2012-01-14 13:43

    Embarrassing ruling can only harm Waterfront business - does not make sense to call no jetty a security risk. Why inconvenience the valued passengers ?

  • johancstoltz - 2012-01-14 13:48

    Sounds like Waterfront sabotage ? ! What is the hidden agenda - what security risk ? - why inconvenience the valued passengers ? - just does not make sense.

  • Gail - 2012-01-14 13:49

    None of this makes any sense unless they are planning to allow someone else to berth there surely?Perhaps moving them to Duncan Dock means the taxi industry will make more money getting people from Duncan to V & A?

  • johancstoltz - 2012-01-14 13:54

    Sounds like Waterfront sabotage ? ! What is the hidden agenda - what security risk ? - why inconvenience the valued passengers ? - just does not make sense.

  • Gail - 2012-01-14 14:22

    Mr Mellet, Thank you for putting all the readers properly in the picture regarding this matter. It now makes more sense as to why it is being done and also why Helen Zille hasn't objected to it since it will actually benefit unemployment there. My previous e-mail though still stands. Why is it that the deep water port of NGqura near Port Elizabeth is not made more use of to provide employment for the millions of unemployed people in the Eastern Cape and along the Wild Coast. While we may not have Table Mountains and vineyards we have wonderful coastline and resorts both West and East of us and billions have been spent on building this port. Were cruise ships to berth there we would also have to use buses etc to disembark them but there is no hindrance to their disembarkation provided that all regulations are met. The tourists could be taken to numerous places inland or journey up our wonderful wild coast as well bringing much needed revenue into the Eastern Cape.

      melletpt - 2012-01-14 16:09

      Hi Gail... there is nothing stopping Ngqura being used by Cruise Ships. In fact as most cruise ships will have already been cleared by immigration in Durban or in Cape Town, there is no further customs and immigration clearance that is done there as the ship is in SA waters. The question here again is that this entire economic activity is tightly control by shipping agents and allied interested parties. The question needs to be directed to such interests. The Eastern Cape communities around Ngqura are as deserving to have their share of the cruise industry tourism as anyone else.

  • melletpt - 2012-01-14 15:56

    The public are very gullible and are been led by the nose and manipulated. There are all sorts of scams going on in Cape Town Harbour and there are those who are fighting tooth and nail so that security is not tightened up, simply so that business can carry on as usual. Passenger tourists are unfortunately also manipulated by those wishing to turn a fast buck. This entire story has nothing to do with the wellbeing of passengers, nor is it about party politics. The Harbour and international ports do not fall under local or provincial government, and no Councillor or MEC has ever taking the slightest interest until a journalist pulled everyones chain with a distorted story. As you will have seen from my contribution there has been no party politics brought into this matter. There are two main role-players – the Shipping Agent and the independent Port Authority. Much of what has been bandied about by the scammers who feed journalists stories is complete nonsense. The really problematic issue is that nobody wants to invest in establishing a viable dedicated decent Passenger Terminal and Berth (whether at V&A or at Duncan Dock). There is not a huge killing to be made at present from cruise ships, which are narrowly seen as taking up valuable berthing space from more lucrative commercial shipping. So the matter is dealt with in a crude and ad hoc manner by shipping agents and the port. The wool is being pulled over the eyes of the public.

  • melletpt - 2012-01-14 15:57

    Cruise Ships have not been docking and discharging passengers at Jetty 2 in the Victoria Basin for over 100 years as has been touted to the public. Writers of this nonsense claim maritime expertise but seem to rely on gossip for stories gleaned from interested parties, inventions and then pad their stories with internet trawled blurb on the maritime environment. Duncan Dock was opened after the second world war and passenger operations were moved there from that time. Jetty 2 specifically was never used for Cruise Ships per se. In recent years it has only been occasionally used by Cruise Ships when particular commercial interests are served or to try and make a point as seems to be the case at present. The majority of Cruise Ships have been berthed on an ad hoc basis all over Duncan Dock. Just go and look closely at some of the photographs being used to illustrate the stories. The Jetty 2 is only 195m long and is not suitable for ships as large as 200m and has no facilities for processing passengers and coping with vehicles, stores and sightseers as one commenter pointed out.

  • melletpt - 2012-01-14 15:58

    I have 40 years of working experience, come from a maritime family who have worked in, around and from Cape Town Harbour for 50 years and have worked at sea myself. I’ve worked and travelled in 35 countries, written extensively and been published, worked in the tourism sector and have an MSc in Tourism Development and Management, and I am a historian focused on local history of the Cape. I only did all of this after working my way up from my youth as a mechanical fitter and lithographic printer – two separate artisanships that I hold. I am passionate about my work in Home Affairs Immigration covering Maritime and Aviation affairs. I love this city and want it to succeed. I love this harbour and want to see it cleaned up and become more professionally orientated. A proper passenger terminal should truly be a gateway worthy of being the first and memorable experience that visitors have in coming to Cape Town. I mention this only to counter that contrary to all of the rather negative outpourings, Home Affairs officials are not ignorant uncaring idiots. The public have the right to be concerned but this is not being directed at the place where it ought to be directed.

  • gail.joyce2 - 2012-01-15 09:58

    So sick of the corruption in this country.

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