Vavi: Long way to go on NHI

2011-11-19 22:12

Johannesburg - There is a long way to go before the National Health Insurance (NHI) scheme can become a reality, Cosatu said on Saturday.

"There is a long way to go to turn these excellent plans into reality in the hospitals and clinics," Congress of SA Trade Unions (Cosatu) general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi said.

During a keynote address at the Emerging Market Healthcare gala dinner in Cape Town Vavi said all posts in the public health care sector needed to be filled, and new ones opened where necessary.

Targets had to be set for the employment and production of nurses and doctors, physical infrastructure needed to be upgraded and extended.

Vavi said the pay structure, conditions of employment and career development needed to be addressed in order to address the problem of skills flight, as well as the re-opening and establishment of new nursing colleges.

There needed to be a state pharmaceutical company in order to ensure the availability of affordable essential medicines, he said.

Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan earlier this month said about R500m was expected to be set aside in the 2012 budget to fund pilot sites for the NHI.

  • GAMMAT - 2011-11-19 23:13

    Watch this initiative become another siphon.

      Michael - 2011-11-20 06:20


      Silvana - 2011-11-20 06:29

      @Michael. No Gammat is a realist.

      Xavier7034 - 2011-11-20 08:24

      No Silvana, based on current performance of the ANC @Michael is 100% correct - on what else can the public judge the possible outcome. They have messed up 95% of just about everything - the only thing that really works is SARS......and Home Affairs under perhaps one of the few reputable ANC ministers. Angie Motsheka, Pravin Gordhan, Trevor Manuel can perhaps also be forgiven for belonging to the wrong party :-)

      Vusi - 2011-11-20 08:31

      R500 Million to put the NHI in working and R500 Million for a centenary Birthday Bash.........we really have our priorities in order!

      GAMMAT - 2011-11-20 09:06

      I don't quite think Xavier got the drift of what I commented.

  • John - 2011-11-19 23:43

    How can the guys which have destroyed education, the police, the HEALTH Department, how can such morons be trusted with private medical services? How can they think that they can do it, when NO ONE ELSE in the world has? Cubans bring shopping trolleys full of medicines from FLORIDA!

  • Grant - 2011-11-19 23:55

    NHI will never work in SA. It only partly works in Britain which has a much bigger tax base. "Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan earlier this month said about R500m was expected to be set aside in the 2012 budget to fund pilot sites for the NHI. I've no doubt R500 million will be "set aside" but where will it disappear to? Come 2013, what will there be to show for it?

  • Jacques - 2011-11-20 00:45

    ''Targets had to be set for the employment and production of doctors and nurses''- yet, how many white 18-year olds who want to study medicine are turned down each year? I averaged 80 out of Matric and I didn't get into med school anywhere, but the other day I met a coloured oake who averaged 50 doing it. I don't have hassles with him, but HOW can you expect such twats (goverment) to run the priate health sector as well? Scares the hell out of me.

      Grant - 2011-11-20 05:42

      Very disturbing what you've posted. I wonder how many young whites have gone abroad to qualify, never to return to work in SA?

      Michael - 2011-11-20 06:22

      Liar!!! Bring your face forth for the people to see what a liar you are!

      Barefoot - 2011-11-20 06:28

      oh yes another 1 turning this into a race issue. average of 50 where is he studying? stop lying please

      Silvana - 2011-11-20 06:36

      You're right Jacques. But iot's not only whites that are discriminated against. The daughter of some Indian friends, also an "A" grader, was turned down because the university had reached it's quota for that race group.

      Barefoot - 2011-11-20 07:17

      Lol do ur research boet i also tried doing med at tukkies which had mostly white students doing med, couldn't ended up doing chemical eng but quit it then did nursing, my point? i think it's not about colour 'm black. these days they do not consider academic achievement only also the fact that u did some community work esp health related. and ja NHI complete crap me thinks. good luck with pursuing ur career in med. 50 really?

      Yar - 2011-11-20 08:18

      @Kaalpoot You illiterate turd. By your own admission you blew it at Chemical Engineering. Judging by your skill at writing you could not fill in the application forms. You talk about race being an issue, damn right it is when good candidates can't get in. Good luck to you when you get treated by an affirmative action surgeon one day. It will be great to know that a barely literate, idiot who was pushed through medical school is hacking around inside your guts with a scalpel. Enjoy the experience.

  • Vegi - 2011-11-20 07:17

    The NHI

      JudithNkwe - 2011-11-20 08:15

      The filthy public hospitals are that way because there is no discipline and routine in them. The staff don't care about their jobs. Once these public hospitals were amongst the best in the world. Perhaps you should find out what went wrong? The NHI will not change things unless proper management is put in place to restore our public hospitals to what they should be

  • Vegi - 2011-11-20 07:37

    This initiative will help improve conditions under which the poor people receive treament. They will now share the same wards and facilities with the rich and powerful, no longer restricted to filthy public hospitals.

      Ry Short - 2011-11-20 08:04

      How long before the new hospitals fall to the wayside? I'm all for a national health scheme (the UK and Sweden spring to mind) but that only works because everybody contributes and it is managed by the health department and by government in a civil manner (ie; zero corruption and plundering of funds). KPMG's proposal to seek funding from an increase in VAT is the only viable solution for funding of such a scheme. Everybody pays - everybody benefits. But I strongly disagree with them wanting to, in effect, expel Private Healthcare. If you can afford it, why shouldn't you be allowed to choose it? It would be unconstitutional to suggest otherwise..

      Yar - 2011-11-20 08:06

      @Veg The NHI is just another ANC stupid initiative. It will be innefficient It will be a vehicle for more useless ANC cadres to get unneeded high paying jobs It will be a nest of corruption It will cost more than the country can afford It will help no one, especially the poor. Stop trying to steal something that works. You talk of being restricted to filthy public hospitals. WHY DON'T YOU CLEAN THE PUBLIC HOSPITALS. SOAP AND WATER NEVER HURT ANYONE. You are an idiot and a symptom of what is wrong with this country!!!!

      Vegi - 2011-11-20 08:38

      Yar You don't know what you are talking about. I was never admitted to any hospital but I know for a fact that public hospitals are filthy due to useless management and indolent as well as insolent public servants. The poor have no part in the state of affairs yet they suffer the consequences. If the rich and powerful have to use the same facilities as the poor, all stops will be pulled to ensure that the facilities are in order. The rich and powerful includes politicians who will never allow themselves to be treated in stinking facilities. Due to your icy IQ you did not comprehend my point, hence you jumped to silly conclusions.

      Yar - 2011-11-20 09:33

      @Veg It is you who has a short attention span. Who put the useless, indolent and insolent (your words) management into the hospitals. Now your ANC cadres want to put that management into a position of power within the private health care system. What you and your socialist buddies don't understand, is that you cannot re-distribute wealth. You can only only destroy things that work. Go back to your existing state hospitals and clean and fix. Fire the useless staff. Make it work. Hands off private property.

  • Kate - 2011-11-20 08:09

    Look at the state of the current Government hospitals!! Equipment worth millions does not work and has not been for years. I see this being another open, end account for more abuse of Tax Payers money.

  • akaRags - 2011-11-20 12:02

    As a nurse, this is my perspective - so many qualiy nurses, nurses of all races, have left, where the pay is better, to countries like Saudi & the UAE, or have emigrated to countries where they can at least have a better standard of living on a nurses salary, as compared to SA and nurses are STILL leaving. Not to mention that in the near future, to qualify as a REGISTERED nurse and be called "sister" you will have to get a DEGREE, which means going to university, and less hands on experience, in other words, sisters who qualify with very little practical experience. Very worrying as far as I'm concerned. These "degreed" nurses are then going to be looking for the higher paying admin jobs, which means less nurses on the wards. Nursing is just another job now, another pay cheque and too many don't really have in their hearts in it - they have their hearts in it for their monthly pay cheque and thats not what nursing should be about, ultimately. The pay for nurses at SA private hospitals is no better than the gvt - only the conditions are, which is what attracts most to the pvt sector. Gvt seem intent on eroding the quality of nurses, - well, they already have sadly. Now they want an NHI....... To the Health Dept - Fix up the gvt hospitals FIRST and once those are properly functioning again, maybe, just maybe, then you'll have earned the right to tell the private sector what to do, but until then, start doing your jobs properly.

  • Winsome - 2011-11-20 19:52

    This is going to be an interesting exercise. I am watching with bated breath to see how the taxpayers money is again going to be wasted on a scheme the ANC has put in place without first doing their homework.

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