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Violent attacks 'not unique to farmers'

2012-10-05 22:18

Johannesburg - Farmers are not uniquely vulnerable to armed attacks, the SA Institute of Race Relations said on Friday.

"The analysis of statistics did not indicate that farm attacks were not a problem," the institute's CEO Frans Cronje said.

"Rather it revealed just how vulnerable all South Africans are to violent crime."

The number of farm attacks per 100 000 farmers and their families was comparable to the number of criminal attacks per 100 000 people in the general population.

According to an analysis of farm attack data collected by farmers' union TAU, there were 108 confirmed attacks in 1994, and 85 in 2011.

The highest number of farm attacks occurred in 2002, with 229 across the country. The lowest number was 70 in 1996.

In 2011, the number of attacks per 100 000 farmers and farmworkers in the formal sector was 16.8.

If it was assumed that farmworkers were not targeted, and that attacks were aimed at commercial farmers and their families only, the rate of attack was 45.8 per 100 000 (assuming three dependants each).

The rates calculated were broadly comparable to rates per 100 000 people for other serious crimes among the general population.

In 2011, South Africa had a murder rate of 31.9 per 100 000 people. The house robbery rate was 33.4 per 100 000.

The total aggravated robbery rate was 203 per 100 000 people.

Comments
  • charmaine.paterson1 - 2012-10-05 22:25

    And the buzzwords for today: not unique.

      juan.prinsloo.750 - 2012-10-06 01:46

      So I suppose the farmers can now all relax and have a good nite's sleep. We needn't worry about farm attacks, it's not unique to farms. Or at least that seems to be the underlying message here

      danie.strydom.7 - 2012-10-06 02:04

      Statistically South Africa compares very BAD with the rest of the world. The problem with statistics is that 43.72% of statistics can be made up on the spot :) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate

      rodney.bevan.58 - 2012-10-06 02:42

      Lies, Damn lies and statistics! "broadly comparable to the number of attacks on the general public." What you pricks forgot to mention (or chose to ignore), is the fact that 99% of farm attacks are exclusively on white people, whereas the "general public" figure includes people of every colour!

      pierre.devilliers.9231 - 2012-10-06 04:19

      Again usual suspects; either cannot read or numbers just make you dizzy. Nobody in the article said farm murders are ok, or that there is not a problem. All it said is that violent crime statistics on farms is similar to that of the general population (or if you want, it is equally high as in the general population). The article did not say farm murders are ok or not happening, it did not say farmers should not be alert as there is no problem. The article just said attacks on farms are as high as in the cities or else where. (For the idiots that want to declare the new South Africa worse than the Apartheid SA; in 1994 the farm attacks were 108 per 100000, it was last year 85 per 100000. For those that did not do math in primary school. 85 is smaller than 108...thus attacks are less, reduced etc.

      pierre.devilliers.9231 - 2012-10-06 04:34

      I have a great sympathy for victims of crime especially violent crime. A friend of mine’s parents where robbed at gun point in their house at night. The father died days later and I am positive the hart attack was related (that turned that robbery in a murder in my opinion). However we should not spread false stories of genocide and try to create the impression Apartheid’s SA was better than now. Most statistics point to murder and violent crimes coming down since 1994. The country clearly spiralled out of control under the NATS and if you like if or not things did improve under the ANC, maybe to slow, but it did improve. I am not saying things are fine as it is not, 203 per 100000 aggravated robberies is ridiculously high, and we cannot always blame Apartheid, but what I am saying is understand were we came from, and do not always try to justify the past, as the Apartheids’ past is unjustifiable.

      max.reynecke - 2012-10-06 05:16

      @Pierre.devilliers, it must be really nice to go trough life being so ignorant and in denile as you are. I bet you wake up every morning with "al die veld is vrolik" playing between your ears.

      Nigel - 2012-10-06 06:32

      @ Pierre - you're right Pierre, but the frustration we're venting here is because we don't need more bloody statistics, we need a solution, and the SA government does blow all. The statistics are basically irrelevant - we know whatever the figures are, they're unacceptably high, and statistics and commissions and meetings and and and..... aren't helping. This is the frustration. We don't care if it's 'unique' or not, we need a solution, not more statistics. It's like the priest offering salvation, whilst all the people actually need is food because they're starving. (it's of no consequence and isn't helping).

      Nigel - 2012-10-06 06:55

      Well said Leonard

      charlesdumbwin.dumbwin - 2012-10-06 07:27

      It sounds like this was a study commissioned by the ANC in order to downplay the seriousness of racist farm murders. Who cares about STUPID STATISTICS !!! This is not about stats it's about the innocent WHITE families who are vulnerable on these rural farms and who have little protection against the gangs of BLACKS who are butering entire families !!! Grow a brain and declare farm murders as priority crimes!!!

  • hitting.thefan - 2012-10-05 22:42

    When all these farmers get fed-up and quite or leave I hope when my african brotheren look for ther mealie meal and see that they have to pay through there noses then they will cry. To think that we took something so important and made it look so insignaficant. Alot of these attackers are teenagers that did not experience apartheid but they say it is because of the past. Shame on our govermant for not putting in the effort that is deserved for the irradication of this barbaric practise of killing farmers.

      simphiwe.buthelezi.71 - 2012-10-05 23:10

      Hitting, what a lousy generalisation! Check your spelling (if you know how to spell)before you send your comments. Who is African? Its amazing how \african whites\ can be when something positive is said about Africa. When its the opposite they make a U-turn. Farmers are as important as any member of the society.

      phahla.matwa - 2012-10-06 06:32

      Ant u African brother. Or u consider ur self European/ Australian

  • norman.buchalter - 2012-10-05 22:49

    these attacks are inexcusable- whether on the faring community, or the general population or as a whole. What the IRR does NOT figure out, is that there are only about 35000 farmers (say x 3 or 4 if you include families)= +-140,000 people , compared to 40 million + people in the general population. In other words , an average of say 40 attacks per 1000 farmers is a much higher proportion of attacks relatively speaking because of their important contribution to the breadbasket of the country. All life is valuable and the value of each and every life cannot and should not be diluted by lies, damn lies and statistics. The IRR is not doing any favours by trying to prove that such high levels of murder etc are anything but reprehensible and not encouraging to either citizens having to take their live in their hands nor to overseas tourists or to foreign investors. Instead of trying to justify high rates amongst ALL population groups, they should be suggesting that the death penalty as deterrent is re-introduced in this violently crime ridden country.

      deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-10-06 09:47

      I'll give Blip half a point for that - the death penalty cannot be allowed to return. Imagine the carnage in the hands of the ANC or the sociopathic Yoof Leek. As for the rest of his opinion about farmers - it is his typical irrelevant hogwash. Bad logic compounded by adherence to an unrealistic ideology.

  • annemariebotha.lanigan - 2012-10-05 23:14

    85 in 2011???? Are you having a laugh. Is your statistician numerically dyslexic. Or maybe it is because farm attack statistics are not actually kept. They are normally recorded as robbery or aggravated robbery. This story is a lot of tosh!!

      chris.barton.1690 - 2012-10-06 02:18

      @ Keyboard Warrior Simphiwe, it would be fair to say that the vast majority of society acknowledges that crime affects all races and classes, but it is also our duty to acknowledge that it affects some more than others. It would also be fair to assert that South African farmers have, more so, been at the receiving end of some of the most brutal and heinous attacks on the planet perpetrated almost exclusively at the hands of your ‘bruddas’ which can only be described as HATE crimes. Instead of penning an intelligent response, you sit behind your computer spouting ad hominem after ad hominem at commenters on this forum ridiculing their command of the English language. The SAIRR’s spin on this topic encapsulates the ‘head in the sand’ mentality of modern day South Africa. Very disturbing indeed… Just look at the rampant crime rate, non-existent emergency services, lack of dignity for the victims of crime, the complete and utter mayhem on our roads, the jaw-dropping filth and squalor, the endless (illegal) industrial strikes, pilfering, theft and looting. Anyone who believes we live in a normal society needs a shrink. Finally, I like so many others, truly believe there is a silent genocide of white South African farmers taking place as we speak. The facts are well documented and unless drastic action is not taken soon, it might be too late.

      deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-10-06 09:42

      What clear evidence Blip? The scientific research (your words) of the SAIRR which is based on biased stats that has widely been accepted as being misleading and a poor attempt at propganda by the regime? Performed by a leftwing loony group headed by an ANC stooge? Is that what qualifies as clear evidence in libtard heaven? Thank goodness only 5% of people actually live there

  • bertus.pretorius.1 - 2012-10-05 23:18

    Being hacked to death, brutaly tortured with irons and knives, disfigured by hardware tools, slaughtered liked animals with blood all over walls and floors and ceilings. Oh, yes, sorry, that victims are all just part of the numbers. While trashing your home, eating your food and drinking, they wait to kill you for a cellphone, perhaps a gun.Yes that's not unique at all. Ffs

      kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-10-06 03:01

      I believe most of us share your feelings on this Bertus.

  • martin.slabbert.102 - 2012-10-05 23:54

    I believe that any murder is a sad accurance and I value all life BUT in this country we constantly get reminded what the ratio is between white and black economic empowerment. I often see a stat that represents the percentage of white people in top management ect. So why dont we have a stat on how many convicted killers are white and how many are black. How many blacks are killed by whites and visa versa? I really believe that is the real problem white people have with the stats! Its my opinion that white people value life more than blacks, I justify my opinion by the fact that people strike/march/demonstrate for everything but the hi murder rate in SA

      wize.man.31 - 2012-10-06 01:13

      Very good point Martin. I would also like to know how many taxi deaths there are. (Per month for that matter.) It was also stated recently that almost 50% of deaths our roads were pedestriants. I would like to know how many of those were black. Stats are being hidden away from us because it will reveal the truth.

      Nigel - 2012-10-06 06:42

      Research the figures - they don't tally. The overwhelming number of serious/violent crimes are committed by Blacks, and it is not in proportion to the Black/White population ratio. Is the fact that Blacks also happen to commit serious crimes on other Blacks and not just on whites supposed to be some kind of comfort? Hell this country is really sick.

      deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-10-06 09:51

      Thank goodness meritocracy is still the deciding factor when the management of a business is concerned - just look at our parastatals to see the result of appointments based on BEE and AA only.

  • sa.citizen.3 - 2012-10-06 00:23

    I dont know how frans cronje could even work these figure out as the police do not report farm murders... my research into farm attacks concluded that the murder rate and white farms is 330/100000. Frans must be a member of the ANC - I wonder???

      phahla.matwa - 2012-10-06 06:27

      Crime affect all races.

      deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-10-06 08:25

      Blip your term is klipenkoukaans is it not? Idiocracy at work people

  • joy.clark.794628 - 2012-10-06 00:36

    We had a farm, it was a wonderful farm. We sold up and left the country. Looking back now I realize that in S Africa '' the unacceptable has become acceptable''. The entire situation regarding crime now seems unreal. That only a few short months ago we were living with the horrors of never knowing when crime would strike us or someone close to us.

  • j.c.s.mailbox - 2012-10-06 00:38

    @ Frans Cronje; Om die plaasmoorde met statistiek (wat in alle geval verkeerd en misleidend is) te wil afwater en om die mees brutale moorde nog in die menslike geskiedenis te probeer verdoesel as gewone misdaad gaan my verstand te bowe. Net een vraag: Wie betaal jou om die klomp onsin publiek te maak????

      deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-10-06 08:23

      With a loony liberal streak a mile wide - ideology replaces impartiality.

  • rene.mcevoy - 2012-10-06 01:37

    I just hate when people come out and use statistical measures to make murder appear less than it is. One is already one too many! Irrespective if it is a random, house invasion or a farm. We have very cruel murders as there is no respect for children and the elderly. Rather spend the time used to get to these calculations to come up with solutions!

      kobus.hattingh.5 - 2012-10-06 02:57

      Could not agree with you more Rene! And ignore Blips comment as most of his comments on all the blogs are nonsence.

      deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-10-06 08:31

      Whose truths? Yours? That is not truth - that is your skewed point of view.

      bobo.jane.1 - 2012-10-06 08:58

      Ok blip, youve made your point ...Go believe this skewed stats as you like. Unlike you I`ve been investigating farm murders and did forensic investigations on those scenes for 19 years. If you believe that the "genocide watch" reports is racist/hogwash whatever it`s your right but it`s still the truth..So please if you haven`t attended those scenes and your comments here are only on what you have read from this report please refrain from commenting furter.

  • Phil.Kleynhans - 2012-10-06 03:55

    This is an attack from ANC it is not robbery, its political motivated if you just see how vicious and cruel these attacks are. It shows how barbaric these people are. I've seen photo's. It is shocking

      blip.noodlum - 2012-10-06 07:49

      All murders are barbaric.

  • louis.nolte.3 - 2012-10-06 05:40

    No use discussing this topic, the government won't do anything.

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-10-06 06:32

      @louise.nolte.3:)I concur with your sentiment. One day they will vacate those farms. Can you just imagine how expensive it would be to feed oneself when all food is imported? What a wonderful South Africa that would be?

      deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-10-06 08:20

      But it is sold in USD - so if the Rand goes belly up the international price is a moot point...oh wait, that is happening now

  • mc.segal.5 - 2012-10-06 06:12

    So who is going to feed the delegates at Manguang in November??

      mrtinyiko.matsambu - 2012-10-06 07:20

      Don't worry, they'll be having English breakfast, with French Toast, Brazillian coffee, Greek salads, Italian Pasta, Mexican Chilli, Ohh also French wines and Cuban cigar. \r\nMmmm, look like they don't need Mr Van Zyl at all.

      deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-10-06 08:09

      Yip - they can just use imported foodstuffs from Woolworse to feed the selected few. Nevermind that the poor shackdweller can hardly afford a bag of maize from his local spaza shop

  • wilmaru.vandermerwe - 2012-10-06 06:15

    En al die statistieke regverdig dit?!! Maak dit aanvaarbaar???!!!!

      blip.noodlum - 2012-10-06 07:57

      No such claim is being made. Of course it's unacceptable. Nobody is saying anything else. But that's not what this debate is about.

  • bobo.jane.1 - 2012-10-06 06:27

    "Rather it revealed just how vulnerable all South Africans are to violent crime." Mr. Cronje : Are you being paid to talk such nonsence ? Sometimes people don`t want to talk the truth because they don`t want to see their illusions destroyed.

      bobo.jane.1 - 2012-10-06 07:28

      Hitting some nerves there is see Zimbo Communist..Reality check..I know the truth boy, you see Communist..The reason why I know this numbers is all hogwash is because I investigated these farm murders for 19 years. I do not belong to any political party. You Commies are such cry babys when you are being proven wrong..

      deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-10-06 08:02

      The leftwing loony seem to forget that his own little portion of libtard heaven under the direction of Mad Bob is a resounding success as another African basket case.

      bobo.jane.1 - 2012-10-06 08:14

      @deon : Agreed, Just another reminder, when these commies can`t even counter argue with fact`s they cry rivers full to get noticed and supported by their libtard lapdogs.

  • FeebleGastro - 2012-10-06 06:58

    What a load of number crunching BS.

      bouncing.betty.33 - 2012-10-06 09:03

      dutchman till the end right?

      deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-10-06 09:12

      Proudly rockspider, hairyback dutchman thank you Betty

  • Michael Kleber - 2012-10-06 07:09

    When zuma is finished perusing over his house plans can he take a few minutes and look at the crime stats and look at thr strikes that are crippling his beloved country ?

      blip.noodlum - 2012-10-06 07:59

      "South Africa belongs to all who live in it." (ANC Freedom Charter)

  • Teuneman - 2012-10-06 07:11

    No but I think the type of violence is. Tieing up a woman and raping her I front of her children and then shoving a garden hose down her throaght and filling her stomach with boiling water isn't the same as waving a gun and saying \gimme yo money\

  • sarel.brits - 2012-10-06 07:13

    Every Farmer should destroy 1 hectare of his crops every time a farm attack occurs do this for one season and you will have the ANC's undivided attention. Stupid little exercise in statistics that reduce humans to numbers is what makes the ANC complacent, what would they do if a scarce human resource like Doctors are targeted? But no White Farmers that is doing one of the most important jobs in the country is the enemy. Death hunger and pestilance will follow the ANC where ever it goes.

      FeebleGastro - 2012-10-06 08:46

      Khethhu, you're missing a big point here: The farmer can and has every right to destroy what is HIS to destroy. You, on the other hand, immediately think of destroying something that is not YOURS to destroy. Africa is a lost case...

  • sminx.r.mandla - 2012-10-06 07:17

    Let get to the bottom of these words 'not unique', does that mean SA must just get used to it and let's all accept that farmers get killed on a daily or weekly basis? Or does mean that its been happening pre-1994 or u nitwits still haven't found a solution to the savagery even now? FFS, let's start taking some accountability and find a solution to this cannibalism!!

      Teuneman - 2012-10-06 07:26

      Now with you I can have a sivilized debate. We have a big problem with farm murders and ignorant uneducated blacks makes selfish comments about this which creates the hate and generalism we get owards blacks.

      bobo.jane.1 - 2012-10-06 08:02

      Mandla : You seem to be a person I can talk to..The reason why this "Genocide whatch" movement are going viral with this, and the reason why I dismiss this figures by Mr Cronje is simply because I did investigate many of these farm murders for many years..Most of these murders were NOT committed as robberies "gone wrong" as the MSM like to put it. If families are being tortured, sometimes for hours on end, in some of the most horrific ways, raped and then executed, it can be nothing else than hate crimes.The government and police knows that this should be put on as a priority but simply does not have the resources to combat this effectivly. Instead of being honest about it, this hogwash report was created to counter "genocide watch" report (Wich is based on true facts) and currently presented to the UN.

      Teuneman - 2012-10-06 08:40

      khethu.ndlovu.3 you are one of those which I am talking about. Doesn't give a damn for life.

  • don.frost.581 - 2012-10-06 07:24

    SA has a white population of 9% so do the math!

      mrtinyiko.matsambu - 2012-10-06 07:38

      xsin60 ycos90=9%\r\nfrom the formula we can see that the white people who migrated toAustralia and Canada is less than the whites people who immigrated to South Africa in the past 18 years.

  • george.pito - 2012-10-06 07:35

    Thats one thing about statistics you can always use it to lie.

  • talana.malherbe - 2012-10-06 07:50

    What is wrong with these people?? Any number of violent attack is too high! Not unique... What a load of crap!

  • quartus.vanzyl - 2012-10-06 07:51

    Pierre de Villiers, stop smoking that heavy stuff so early in the day!

  • clive.brink - 2012-10-06 07:52

    Somehow I too dont think that the henious crimes and murders against farmers are unique, but I do believe that the farmers are rasy prey and targets, usualy older people living remotely - so much easier targets. What I find strange and even bizzare is the manner in which these callous attacks are perpetrated. The victims are tortured in the most inhumane way, wives and daughters often raped, and the victims allways killed and sometimes even slaughtered like animals. Tell me thats not unique. The kind of onslaught and frightening cruelty with which farm attacks takes place can only indicate that it is a pattern with the specific Mau-Mau modus operandi to scare and drive the farmers off the land. With all the lies and manipulated crime statistics we are fed, and only every now and then when it suits the authorities, leaves no doubt that they need and take time to manipulate and colour the farm killings statistics in such a way to deflect from the actual ralities. So stop lying and manipulating, as the crime capital with the highest serious violent crime and murder statistics in the world, the government is making the worst of the former so-called apartheid government look like a Sunday Shool Picnic. The world should sit up and start demanding that the SA Government start protecting its citizens now or face world condemnation and the consequences for this failure and then by implication complicancy. SA Institute for Race Relations and SA Institute for Security Studies?

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-10-06 08:16

    The people were struggling during apartheid, they are still struggling. Why? Lack of skills, lack of education and lack of a solid work ethic. Unions are poison, they should be paying the workers when they get them to strike. Where there is poverty there will be crime, anywhere in the world. A big cause of crime is the inability of the anc to keep illegal immigrants out. Most of the crimes are committed by illegal immigrants who would hang in their own countries but since we are soft on crime the worst thing that can happen to them is they will go to the big hotel. Farmers feed, house and pay their workers albeit not a big salary. Overseas you can go work on farms and get fed and housed with no pay. Stop the blame game and look within to see what you can do to change things.

  • lloyd.wyk - 2012-10-06 08:24

    How do you sleep at night Frans Cronje?! Strange that you don't hear about general public being burnt with Irons, hot water, tortured to name but a few... Brutality in Farm murders are un compared and is a serious problem! Luckily almost every South African knows that our "statistics" is short of a stand up comedy, like everything else in parliament...

  • peter.retief - 2012-10-06 08:49

    There are a lot of assumptions, not farm employee murders - not managers? Adding three dependents for each? Why are they trying to justify the murder of farmers?

  • FeebleGastro - 2012-10-06 08:52

    Gustav Franzen has the credibility of a six Rand note.

  • Adil Smit - 2012-10-06 08:53

    But the difference is that Julius Malema has been singing a song in public that tells his supporters to "Kill a boer,kill a farmer" and he was found guilty of hate speech by a court of law. Now he is appealing that ruling and our government is supporting him in his appeal. That shows a systematic approach. The European Union has tsken note of the farm killings. South Africans deserve to live safely- all South

  • achaava - 2012-10-06 09:07

    i find it rather retarded that certain misinformed individuals chose to run around screaming wolves wolves when the rest of us are dealing with the same problem...to say that farmers are being targeted coz they are white is rather pushing it...i know for a fact a few black farmers who have also been robbed and killed...the is needs to be a fine distinguishable line that shud not be crossed..and that race line needs to be abolished...crime affects everyone in this country..not just famers...go visit a township hospital and see the blood split in one night... The poor are getting poorer and the rich are getting richer...these wolves that are runing around the country are a bi-product of the past and failed promises of the current rulers..i only wish people could look past race...and see that the wolves are not hunting just farmers but everyone they think make easy targets

  • bouncing.betty.33 - 2012-10-06 09:07

    All these racist comments and going bonkers and showing your true colours for 4000 people in 19 years.... Not once did anyone of you racist twats mention the other 350 000 odd people that have been murdered, whether white or black or purple, typical mentality of an uneducated people who only think of themselves and don't look at the bigger picture.

      deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-10-06 10:01

      So let's look at the bigger picture - 18000 people killed per year due to violence in SA vs half that killed per year in Afghanistan and Iraq. Two countries at war and the other at peace. And you liberal retards and leftwing loonys dare call this a democracy? Stick your little racist label where the sun don't shine - the white-guilt depository is empty, live with it.

  • sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-10-06 09:15

    For some people stats are credible when they depicts SA negatively or when they imply that the government is failing. Farm attacks, like any other form of violence against humans is wrong and inexcusable. I wish we can look at each other as human race than as whites,blacks, indians or coloureds.

      zimbobwe.mugabe - 2012-10-06 10:06

      No sefako there are two types of human race in Mzansi. Racist trolls like bobejaan who thinks farm murders are a genocide and realist like Mr Cronje who see farm murders as a unique South African crime problem which needs to be tackled rigorously. Crime is a problem is Mzansi and it affects everybody farmers included.

  • tjaart.j.rensburg - 2012-10-06 09:15

    And your useless stats makes this OK?

  • Sedeshan Naidoo - 2012-10-06 09:17

    Farmers are perceived as easy targets because they are so isolated. maybe it's time they band together and form some kind of community watch - arm themselves to the teeth and shoot the vermin. the country just isn't safe, so being out in the middle of nowhere doesn't help either.

  • john.ferreira.1213 - 2012-10-06 09:28

    Sarel Brits jy is reg, boere moet net 'n lappie grond gebruik om te plant vir eie gebruik. Vergeet van velore inkomste (hulle het in elk geval genoeg in die bank om hulle te dra vir 2 seisoene) dit sal nie lank wees voordat die swartes ten duurste moet betaal vir \ingevoerde\ voedsel met geld wat hulle nie het nie. Daar sal ook nie plase wees waar hulle dan kan steel nie. Hierdie piesang republiek regering se oe sal miskien dan oopgaan en iets aan die saak doen.

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