Tutu: Watch out ANC govt, watch out!

2011-10-04 17:43

Cape Town – A visibly angry Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu has slammed the SA government for not granting Tibetan spiritual leader, the Dalai Lama, a visa at a press conference, in Cape Town, on Tuesday.

The Dalai Lama cancelled his planned trip to South Africa to spare the SA government any further inconvenience, his office said.

He was invited to attend the birthday celebrations of Tutu, a friend and fellow Nobel Peace Prize winner.

“Wake me up and tell this is actually happening here [in SA]. This is quite unbelievable,” Tutu said.

"Our government is worse than the apartheid government, because at least you were expecting it from the apartheid government," said Tutu.

"But our government, we were expecting more [that] we would have a government that was sensitive to the sentiments of our Constitution."

"Clearly, whether they say so or not, they were quite determined that they are not going to do anything that would upset the Chinese," Tutu said.

“May I just remind you – the minister of international relations and co-operation [Maite Nkoana-Mashabane] two years ago said the Dalai Lama can come anytime.

“She was being very, very, economical with the truth or she didn’t know her work.”

“I am warning you, watch out! Watch out!” he angrily said to the ANC government.

"Hey Mr Zuma, you and your government don't represent me. You represent your own interests. I am warning you out of love.

“One day we will be praying for the defeat of the ANC government. You are disgraceful. You have... a huge majority – that is nothing. Watch out ANC government watch out.”

The Dalai Lama's cancellation of his trip was a "dark day" for South Africa, the Desmond Tutu Peace Centre said earlier.

  • NowOrNever - 2011-10-04 17:45

    Been saying the same thing for years now. Not sure they even listen to warnings like this.

      Daemos1 - 2011-10-04 17:57

      Good luck, a lot of the stuff you think is made in other countries is made in china

      Drukkie - 2011-10-04 18:12

      that springbok jersey you wearing was made in china...

      jannie - 2011-10-04 18:16

      Stoneflint, although I feel like you, that just mean you cant buy anything in South Africa, every freaking thing is made in China!!

      CITIZEN - 2011-10-04 18:35


      StoneFlint - 2011-10-04 18:37

      Find a substitute....You'll pay more but, please whatever you do try and avoid giving your HARD EARNED MOENY to these evil people…We should also start to refuse to pay taxes…IT’s time we stand up and have a protest of our own…never have we as a whole decided to say enough is enough…IT IS TIME!!! WE HOLD THE ULTIMATE POWER AND NOW IT”S OUR TURN!!! NO MORE CRIME, RAPE, CORRUPTION, MURDER, FRAUD, BRIBERY, RACISM, and INCOMPETENCE!! ALL THINGS EVIL SHOULD NO LONGER BE TOLERATED!! VIVA A FREE AND DEMOCRATIC SOUTH AFRICA!!!

      Piet Skiet - 2011-10-04 18:37

      Why are you upset Tutu. No comments from you when your President wants to take up his machine gun and your Youth Leader wants to kill the Boer? Because your chom wasnt granted a visa you are now chucking your toys out of the cot?

      Pupuzela - 2011-10-04 18:38

      South Africa is made in China.

      Fred - 2011-10-04 18:41

      Hopefully now that Tutu has expressed his feelings, the rest of the world will realise what a shower of s**t the ANC government is.

      multicore - 2011-10-04 18:56

      A few weeks ago he called for a white tax and every white was slamming him. Now he criticizes the ANC and everyone praises him. There were so many times tutu failed to speak out (e.g. on farm murders) and now because it is personal he is furious - sorry no sympathy from me. This man acts exactly in the same way as the ANC - just looks after his own interest.

      grod - 2011-10-04 18:58

      @pietskiet right on. All these so called leaders are forever quiet to the blatant injustices except when it affects them...

      nspaynter - 2011-10-04 19:10

      @StoneFlint (I WILL NEVER BUY ANYTHING FROM CHINA AGAIN.) If you're a Bokke Supporter you'll have a problem, because most SA Rugby Jerseys are made in China. I support the boycott of Chinese made Rugby Jerseys.

      Servaas - 2011-10-04 19:13

      Lekker,lekker,lekker!!!! See TuTu, they do not even give a sh*t about you... But, go make your silly x next to those brainless oafs next election. Kry ek soooo Lekker toe ek dit lees!!

      THE-SRG - 2011-10-04 19:23

      The old man has finally had his eys cleared to see how useless the ANC are...he is now got his foot in his mouth for backing these criminals

      cliffarc - 2011-10-04 20:12

      - Wow ! - never seen Tutu take off his gloves and tear into his beloved Anc like this. Another nail in the Anc's coffin - not that they will care a hoot over this public relations calamity. - @ Anton - maybe one day you'll see China's true motives - they are cosying up to the Anc for one thing only - to serve their own interests. Jobs, prosperity and upliftment of the poor is the last thing on their minds.

      Pigscanfly - 2011-10-04 20:46

      All I can say is "GOD BLESS YOU" DESMOND TUTU, you stand up for a lot of people and have never been afraid to speak out. I never believed that two people could make the Chinese tremble at their knees, but I do now. In my books he's OK. Happy Birthday and I wish you many more

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-10-04 21:04

      Since 2009, when that IDIOT ZUMA took the reigns of the South African Nation...... THE CHINESE HAVE BEEN IN CHARGE OF SOUTH AFRICA!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! THE ANC are MEAR PUPPETS to the Commies.... PROVE ME WRONG.... I DARE YOU!!!!!!!!!!! As soon as the Dalai Lama sent in his passport for his VISA.... Deputy Pres, MOTHLANTHE was ORDERED TO BEIJING...... Under the pretance of a "TRADE MISSION"!!!!!!!! Mean time he was ORDERED that the Dalai Lama WAS NEVER TO SET FOOT ON AFRICAN SOIL!!!!!! PROVE ME WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Mothlanthe and CO, were told...... "KEEP THAT TIBETAN OUT OF SA"

      Point Blank - 2011-10-05 08:52

      @AMS, dude, seriously, you could've put your point across so much better without all the damn exclamation marks splattered across your comment.

      supporter - 2011-10-05 08:55

      sorry tutu got no simpathy for you. you also hate whites and you are still stuck on apartheid. soort soek soort

      Linus - 2011-10-05 11:27

      Tata - Tutu. You should kowtow and say dankie my baas...

      Ondier - 2011-10-05 11:32

      @citizen: Yes I agree, but the way it comes across, its almost as if he thinks he is God. Zuma doesnt represent me either. But neither does Tutu and his white tax. As an emerging market, I would not recommend to burn our bridges. Tutu can surely not always be right. And Im saying this because I agree with him on alot of things. another thing im seeing here is how a so called man of God acts when things dont go his way. Sounds like the masses when they dont get what they want.

      Denise - 2011-10-05 14:16

      On June 5, 1873, in a letter to The Times, Sir Francis Galton, the cousin of Charles Darwin and a distinguished African explorer in his own right, outlined a daring new method to 'tame' and colonise what was then known as the Dark Continent. 'My proposal is to make the encouragement of Chinese settlements of Africa a part of our national policy, in the belief that the Chinese immigrants would not only maintain their position, but that they would multiply and their descendants supplant the inferior Negro race,' wrote Galton. 'I should expect that the African seaboard, now sparsely occupied by lazy, palavering savages, might in a few years be tenanted by industrious, order-loving Chinese, living either as a semidetached dependency of China, or else in perfect freedom under their own law.' Galton said that 'the history of the world tells the tale of the continual displacement of populations, each by a worthier successor, and humanity gains thereby'. That was more than 100 years ago - Sir Francis Galton, it now appears, was ahead of his time. His vision is coming true. An astonishing invasion of Africa is now under way. In the greatest movement of people the world has ever seen, China is secretly working to turn the entire continent into a new colony. A century after Sir Francis Galton outlined his vision for Africa, the Chinese are here to stay. More will come...

  • Dal68 - 2011-10-04 17:47

    Hahahahahahaha now he sees them as we have been seeing this dance and sing brigade for a long time.......

      JBRSA - 2011-10-04 18:38

      The Arch hasn't held back all along where he see's injustice!

      Poloyatonki - 2011-10-04 19:09

      What is wrong with Tutu, days back he was bashing at whites, now he is on ANC's case, I wonder who is next, i hope not me because I will show him how hell looks like. He makes me sick. He is suppose to be retired.

      THE-SRG - 2011-10-04 19:20

      no Pokeyourdonki....he has just realized that he was backing the wrong team,he has finally woken up himself to how usless and corrupt the ANC are...he is now looking on it with a clear mind

      gizzy - 2011-10-04 19:56

      polydonkey, since when has it bothered you what anybody says about whites? you the last person to talk!!! You aren't fit to shine Tutu's shoes!

  • vtowntekkie - 2011-10-04 17:51

    Now that it is personal tutu start screaming???

      gizzy - 2011-10-04 17:58

      Screaming??? Isn't that what you are doing?

      Bewildered - 2011-10-04 18:08

      I think he is terribly embarrassed by the government's actions. I would be. Maybe he thought that his "comrades" would take into account the fact that he fought as hard as anyone for them, and now finds that, as he is getting older and of no more use, can be disregarded and insignificant. All I can say is money talks. The Chinese govt won't end trade relations with SA, it would be cutting off its nose to spite its face - rather they will cut off funding to the ANC, and that is the whammy that caused this dreadful situation.

  • africrealist - 2011-10-04 17:51

    Politics and christian faith should be to seperate things what the hell is tutu always doing around politics he should go and do his work that is winning people for christ!!!

      Mark - 2011-10-04 18:27

      I don't think the Archbishop is around politics at all. Unfortuneately our leaders could not supply one of his dearest and most reverend friends through for his celebration. When freedom was obtained the Dalai was there for the cause. This is not a christian or politics thing. For me it is a spitefull gesture towards the Archbishop. - maybe i should think.

      Pencilgraffiti - 2011-10-04 18:40

      Africrealist... Did you hear how many times Zuma brought religion into his speeches during the last elections campaigning?

      RichardS - 2011-10-04 19:01

      Africrealist, you are ignorant and wrong. The Christian faith (as well as many other faiths) agitated and mobilised effectively to end apartheid, and was an integral part of the anti-apartheid movement. Christianity is deeply rooted in social justice and is a part of the global human rights movement. By forcing the Dalai Lama to cancel his trip South African government, and the ANC in particular, distances itself from its human rights legacy and firmly places its economic agenda ahead of human rights, and compromises its independence on the world stage - losing credibility in the process. South Africa purports to be a beacon of human rights post-1994. Yet foreign policy is for the most part disconnected and dyslexic with this stance and its domestic agenda. There must be an old guard, like Mandela who are deeply disturbed by this current policy position, and Kadar Asmal must surely be turning in his grave!!

      herrie - 2011-10-04 19:06

      Tutu is not a christian at all.

      antwan - 2011-10-04 19:46

      africrealist, Dumbest comment on this page yet. (And that takes some doing, seeing that the ANC brigade seeks political capital out of taking Tutu's "wealth tax" comment entirely out of context.) Since when are politics and Christianity to be separated? Christ himself was political FFS! And since when is it wrong to strongly object when basic freedoms are suppressed? All he want is a party and have a dear friend (and good man) And the ANC-pimps makes a whore of SA by selling the country to China. (For purported economic reasons -but that's a lie and another story.) Advice all ANC pimps and whores: stay away from this, don't comment, hang your heads in shame and hope the world will forget ASAP.

      Seth - 2011-10-04 20:02

      Desmond tutu is the only outspoken christian I have ever come across that I respect. He has long played a huge role in politics.

      Momus - 2011-10-04 20:24

      @ herrie..... based on your comment, you wouldn't know what a christian is if Jesus slapped you in the face.

      baasdingane - 2011-10-04 23:00

      @seth no ways china (excuse the pun) what about the evangelist, jimmy swagart? Now thats the kind of christian i like! He was rock and roll, digged the cash/bling and he still boned a "lady of the night" in the back of his car. hallelujah brother.

  • liebner - 2011-10-04 17:52

    Its not greener on the other side.

  • jay - 2011-10-04 17:55

    The "apartheid government" would have invited the "lama" because of the "communist" China. The ANC does what it does out of love for money

      Bewildered - 2011-10-04 18:11

      ahhahahahaha the penny dropped - you calling him the "lama". Is THAT why Trevor called him Bambi???

      kilo39 - 2011-10-04 19:16

      and finally, we the whites and blacks of this country have now found common ground. We can use open racism and prejudice to unite us as one nation....against yellow people (the Chinese.) Boycott anything Chinese....if it or a part of it is made in China, do without it and try and support local (African) industry

      ammpike - 2011-10-04 21:19

      this is sick

  • wehries - 2011-10-04 17:55

    Don't mess with my la la..

  • Yar - 2011-10-04 17:55

    Congratulations Des, now you see the light. What are you going to do about it?

  • Thingamebob - 2011-10-04 17:55

    Tutu fought for these clowns for years, now they are in power and what does he expect. grow up Tutu, what you sow, you will reap

      gizzy - 2011-10-04 18:00

      same old, same old. YAWN!!!!

  • mario88 - 2011-10-04 17:55

    I just wonder what Jimmy Manyi would say about it?.... We do know for years(for some reason Tutu not) that this ANC bunch are just self serving criminals....

  • gizzy - 2011-10-04 17:56

    They're concerned about upsetting China. Nothing to do with trade, we have the minerals that China can't get anywhere else and want it. So why are they scared of upsetting China? Who is benefitting from China because it isn't your average South African. Makes you think doesn't it?

  • Oboa - 2011-10-04 17:57

    BOOOOHUHUHU. I have no friends at my party anymore......BOOOOOOOHUHU. It's your people Desmond. It's YOUR people!

  • BnQE - 2011-10-04 17:57

    Shame Tutu - did your government spoil your fun - they care as little for you as what they care for their voters ...

  • aryantoo - 2011-10-04 17:58

    The bishop has spoken good on him

  • People Hater - 2011-10-04 17:58

    Purely churlish and self serving behaviour by Tutu. He lobbied for sanctions to get these marxists into power, and now they act as marxists generally do, he wants to throw a tantrum. Sod you and the dalai lama.

      Kman - 2011-10-04 19:03

      Tutu fought for equality and liberty for our people. He like many disenchanted Blacks supported the ideals of Nelson Mandela and not what some of the current crop of leaders call policy. Get ur facts straight. PS. What did the Dalai Lama ever do to u????

      People Hater - 2011-10-04 19:23

      I concur with you on your first point, but as a direct result of his actions, the marxists have hijacked country and government. So whether he intended it or not, he is greatly responsible for the state of the country today. Also, his latest comments about a white-tax, and other racially themed comments, irrespective of their veracity or worth, were delivered at the height of the malema's anti-white comments as well as his thugs show of force in the streets of JHB. This was just throwing fuel on the flames of discontent and distrust. Surely a man of learning and a nobel laureate should think better to time their public statements so as not to add to the unrest. That is hardly the way of one whose ideals are to be applauded and emulated. With regards to the dalai lama, he is a religious leader, and therefore, like all of them my opinion of him is not very high. Notwithstanding the fact he is a vegetarian pacifist hippy.

  • Bill - 2011-10-04 17:59

    Hey Tutu old chap, I say, you have a spot of bother do you! What's wrong, boot on the other foot for a change...hmmmm...! But hey, you tell them, tell them like it is...!

  • beicime - 2011-10-04 18:00

    The waiting game to process a visa is obviously a declining answer. The ANC, like the old NP, is a dictatorship government. People that are not bright enough to govern in democratic competition implement dictartorships to secure their positions and the new generation under Julius Malema follow the same path. The ANC will change the constitutionto please its interests.

      Nico - 2011-10-04 23:45

      Which government is not a dictatorship? They dictate and you ship.

  • simbaz - 2011-10-04 18:02

    This is a sad a a dark day for South Africa

      DIE WOL - 2011-10-05 15:32

      It's been feaking dark for years!!!!!!!!!

  • BrokenLink - 2011-10-04 18:08

    For such a 'smart' man it took him quite a long time to realise what every other intelligent unbiased person would have realised very soon after Mandela retired and the ANC lost their way completely.

  • DonQuixote - 2011-10-04 18:09

    The most frightening aspect of this whole debacle is that the (supposed) correspondence between our DFA and China's leadership is almost vacant from the media and has been (supposedly) conducted almost entirely behind closed doors.

  • theprodigy - 2011-10-04 18:09

    well Desmond, we have been warning the voting masses about the ANC for years, they are corrupt, useless, self-serving, racist, they are worse than the Apartheid govt, they are stealing from their OWN people, Juju for example, stealing from the poor & now he started a fight between the Xhosas & Zulus, remember him saying the ANC is for Blacks, what corrupt racists. You are right, THEY ARE A DISGRACE!!!!!

  • Mark - 2011-10-04 18:14

    I have whatched the full conference on e-news live. The disgust and dissapointment, Archbishop Tutu conveyed really reflects a indiscriminate, non partial point of view. I agree with him full hartedly that the government as we have it is letting the majority down. Quite dissapointing I'd say. And what nice old chap the Dalai is.

  • Ralph2 - 2011-10-04 18:14

    ANC - Absolutely No Concience.

  • tootingdel - 2011-10-04 18:15

    What a shame that the likes of Desmond Tutu are so few and far between. he is head and shoulders above anyone in goverment in his moral standing, his ethical behaviour and his love and concern for SA. You can now expect the usual ranting from the ANC and its youth league criticising him for his mature years and reactionary thinking. We need more of his kind not less.

  • Shayne - 2011-10-04 18:16

    I think Mr Tutu expressed the frustration of many normal South Africans. Wel done sir.

  • meeee - 2011-10-04 18:17

    Tutu for president.

  • Eugene - 2011-10-04 18:19

    Dont touch me on my Tutu!

      craig - 2011-10-04 20:22

      Dont mess with my tutu -

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  • Levett - 2011-10-04 18:21

    It's YOUR government Desmond ... Enjoy your birthday and don't vote ANC again OK?

  • Stinkhout - 2011-10-04 18:21

    I know the feeling when you do not get what you want for your birthday and you cannot blame apartheid.

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  • KarooOstrich - 2011-10-04 18:23

    Let the ardent ANC supporters take note!! This is a smack in the face for Desmond Tutu who was 1 of their biggest supporters in the struggle. It is a smack in the face for decency, fairness + human rights (which they are sooo concerned about). They are going back on their word. ANC supporters take note - they CANNOT be trusted!! Remember this next time U vote. The whole saga is shocking + disgraceful. They are a bunch of spineless, weak, gutless, lying morons. I will also boycott Chinese goods as far as it is possible from now on.

  • Michel - 2011-10-04 18:24

    shows u how deep the south african goverment is up china's arse

      andrew hartung - 2011-10-04 20:53

      Because all the ANC politicians get their kickbacks from China

  • Kuifie - 2011-10-04 18:24

    Mr Tutu. Maybe show how you feel by supporting an opposition party. Throw your weight in!

  • Dirk du Plessis - 2011-10-04 18:25

    Now why don't you start a "Black Tax" story Mr TUTU? HEY- Don't mess with my TUTU lalallla!!

  • 7thFloor - 2011-10-04 18:25

    Archbishop Tutu has been unplugged from the matrix. Maybe he's "The One" to bring down the ANC government.

      Natsumi - 2011-10-04 18:56

      You sir, win one internet!

  • vanommen.jan - 2011-10-04 18:25

    O so right!

  • Janine - 2011-10-04 18:28

    Go Arch! The man speaks his mind.

  • paulbedfordza - 2011-10-04 18:28

    While at university many years ago (pre '94) I was lucky enough to be granted an interview with Desmond Tutu. As a product of Cristian National Education I prepared for it from my biased point of view. The Bishop of Johannesburg (as he was then) should have taken me apart in that interview. He didn't and from then on, although I have sometimes disagreed with what he has said, I have always had a huge amount of respect for the man who stands by his beliefs and is prepared to engage in reasoned debate.

      John - 2011-10-04 18:56

      Agreed... and we all though Mandela was a terrorist / communist. But what true MEN they are. Gentlemen with integrity and values. Sadly their influence won over their "white" enemies... but none of it rubbed off on their comrades. Zuma is no leader. He follows... whoever has him by the balls

  • KarooOstrich - 2011-10-04 18:30

    Somebody should start a "boycott Chinese goods" movement in the country. If there is enough support + Chinese goods end up not being sold then the govt. will have to sit up + take note. The message will then be clear - we are "gatvol" for this nonsense.

      bill - 2011-10-05 09:41

      lets start by boycotting Standard Bank which is chinese-owned.They are hounding the consumers and should be put out of business.

      Parko - 2011-10-05 09:47

      Can somebody start a website listing South African made goods. I will buy South African even if slightly more expensive. Down with China - lets close down all these China Malls ! For example - which retail store stocks clothes still made in SA - I will happily support them.

  • Richard - 2011-10-04 18:31

    The Chinese even put labels on their products "Made in UK/US whatever". I worked in China for 4 years, there is only one thing they think about - get as much as possible for China, by counterfeit, stealing, lies, nothing else matters.

  • Shorts1 - 2011-10-04 18:33

    The ANihC are falling over backwards to suck up to ChiNA.

  • TLR - 2011-10-04 18:35

    ooooweee, I love this, ANC slowing destructing themselves, ha ha ha, watch out, DA's foundations are built on solid rock, ha ha ha, I love what is happening, ANC you stupid fools, you are killing yourselves you greedy bunch of short sighted fools, ha ha ha ha ha !

  • shaun - 2011-10-04 18:36

    Isn't it possible to create a new political party with good black leaders to unseat ANC. Tutu for president. Bob is 80+

      capetonian - 2011-10-05 08:46

      Bob is a psychopath - like the leaders of states like Cuba and North Korea - one party affairs whose leaders are responsible for horrendous act against their citizens. At least Gaddafi's gone and hopefully that moronic family that has run Syria for decades will be next!

  • Agent - 2011-10-04 18:37

    I just love it when they are forced to turn against their own people, kry vir julle. Desmond roer hulle.But shame now Desmond also got a bit of his own medicine.

  • Richard - 2011-10-04 18:37

    So Mr Tutu is only now realising what normal people have been saying for years - now that his own party has been spoilt.

  • rasklot - 2011-10-04 18:38

    I should refresh my memory and re-read Animal Farm. As I recall this is where the pigs, (Napoleon etc) walk on their back legs and start playing cards with the humans from another farm with total disregards for the 7 Commandments.

      Bewildered - 2011-10-04 22:37

      yup, the piggies are sitting around the table

  • africanwolf - 2011-10-04 18:38

    Wisdom comes with age

  • Paul - 2011-10-04 18:38

    bishop tutu dont deserve this. it is a sad day. perhaps we should all pray

      abosch.2002 - 2011-10-05 16:08

      Pray for what exactly, Paul? That one non-Christian be allowed to visit another non-Christian in SA? I do not think that God would accept such a prayer!

  • Hugh - 2011-10-04 18:38

    Tutu you voted for this government so do not complain that they shoot you in the foot. Think about it every person who voted for the ANC voted to keep the dalilama out of SA.