'Waterkloof 2' still in jail

2011-12-16 10:24

Johannesburg - Two of the "Waterkloof Four" have still not been released from jail despite being granted parole on Thursday.

Department of correctional services spokesperson Zacharia Modise confirmed on Friday, that the Pretoria Regional Court had granted the two parole, but they were still in jail.

"The department will study the ruling, and in due course we will let our decision on it be known," Modise said.

Gert van Schalkwyk and Reinach Tiedt were due to be released under strict conditions. The two would be under house arrest, and had been ordered to perform 15 hours of community service a month, according to the department.

Van Schalkwyk's stepfather Jimmy Stonehouse said the department had not followed through on what it said.

"The department said that they must be released, but they weren't. I don't know what to say because I don't know what is going on and why this is happening," Stonehouse said.

Teidt's father Chris, had waited outside the correctional services office in Pretoria for six hours on Thursday, before the office closed for the day, The Star newspaper reported.

Tiedt and Van Schalkwyk were among a group of four boys convicted of killing a homeless man and assaulting another at a park in Pretoria in 2001. They were each sentenced to 12 years’ imprisonment.

Reports on Friday suggested that the legal representatives for all four were filing an urgent High Court appeal for their release, but Modise said he was not aware of the appeal.

He said the department was looking into the release of the four before making a decision.

"We are looking at the ruling as it applies to all four," Modise said.

On Thursday, Stonehouse said he was not aware if the other two, Christoff Bekker and Frikkie du Preez, would also be placed under house arrest.

"They are being kept in a separate prison, so I don't know what the situation with them is."

  • goyougoodthing - 2011-12-16 10:29

    The ruling is, let them go, not sure how much clearer they need the ruling to be.

      brewster - 2011-12-16 12:31

      Someone hasn't had time to formulate a bribe claim!!

  • cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-16 10:29

    What skin colour was this poor homeless man that they killed, just a thought?

      Chris - 2011-12-16 10:48

      Here's another thought, who cares?

      jruppersberg - 2011-12-16 10:49

      What does skin colour have to do with it?? So sad to see people still pulling the race card... poor thing.

      jruppersberg - 2011-12-16 10:59

      @Darkie. It is spelled Afrikaners not Afrikanners. Learn to spell before making a fool of yourself on a public forum. Also, only cowards hide behind fake profiles...

      Jako - 2011-12-16 11:15

      he was black as a snake Cosmos. Get a real name.

      jruppersberg - 2011-12-16 11:43

      @Darkie. You just proved how unschooled you are.

  • Piet - 2011-12-16 10:32

    Well Shaik was out in a flash! Is this racial now? I do not agree with this but honour the courts ANC!

      mokgadi.modau - 2011-12-16 10:51

      Let us leave the race issue here; if it was a black will this be on the news, always when the white person involved, there is an issue even if the matter doesn't deserve attention. For God sake, these people have killed a poor black person, and I still think the penalty was not good enough, or maybe because of race.

      Judith - 2011-12-16 15:53

      This is part of the beginning of breakdown in obedience to the law by the ANC. Not to mention judge-appointments.....This is what happened in Zim(and in some cases under the old SA regime) the executive appointed their buddies as judges, bribed some judges with land and other goodies, ensured the bully boys made life impossible for those judges who continued to show independence,ignored judgements - e.g. did not pay damages awarded by the courts against the state

  • Anno - 2011-12-16 10:32

    Ask the magistrate to issue an arrest warrant for contempt of court against the minister of correctional services...

      cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-16 10:39

      Wonder if you will be calling for the same if they killed yr homeless uncle.

      Pieter - 2011-12-16 10:45

      @ Cosmos, it would be shame on you if you would let a relative to be homeless.

      Chris - 2011-12-16 10:54

      @Cosmos. I have no homeless family, so speak for yourself. Another burden on the tax payers less, plenty to go!

      cosmos.ndebele - 2011-12-16 11:03

      Its Not a choice for some people to be homeless, go all around the world and find out you fools

      Frikkie - 2011-12-16 13:24

      @Cosmos, you had a TERRORIST, bomb planter and MURDERER for a president, nl NELSON MANDELA! Wake up, you ignorant TWAT

      Kevin - 2011-12-16 13:45

      My not homeles Uncle was killed in 1996 in Mooi River and his killers have never been caught or brought to justice Cosmos. My Uncle was white and his killers were black (my cousin saw them fleeing the scene. It wasn't racist it was murder.

  • Cherylin - 2011-12-16 10:47

    seems they got off very light- it sets a bad example to all murderers and rapists- Kill someone get off after a year or two.....

      glenda.labuschagne - 2011-12-16 13:13

      And yet your leader/dealer likes his tjommies out of prison.....?

  • mokgadi.modau - 2011-12-16 10:49

    Thats true and really true.

  • Trevor - 2011-12-16 10:53

    Ok, since when can the Dept Of Correctional Services ignore a High Court Ruling until they do their own fact ANY ruling found my a Magistrate??? These guys need to be brought down a notch or two, arrogant tossbags.

      Shoosh - 2011-12-16 11:38

      most often when the convicted parolees are white. Ask yourselves why Shabby Faik was released so quickly on a medical parole for a fake illness yet Clive Derby-Lewis, who has cancer, and has served the time allowed for parole yet it is still refused. WHY, because he is white & was an accomplice in a political murder of a black person who just happened to be a member of the tri-partheid alliance (ANC, COSATU, SACP).

  • bongani.pasha - 2011-12-16 10:54

    the last time i checked these convicts were given 12 years each,they haven`t even served a third of their sentences and they want to be released noways,what about the poor homeless men that they assaulted and killed.

      Chris - 2011-12-16 11:24

      If they were Bleck, they'd never have gone to jail, and would sit in government now as a reward....see McBride etc.

      bongani.pasha - 2011-12-16 12:41

      @Chris this is not about race,its about justice and it should be applied equally across all races,so please don`t bring up the race issue here.SA won`t break away from racial barriers when each time there is a debate, there are people like you who raise the race issue.

      Kevin - 2011-12-16 13:49

      Shaik didn't serve a third of his sentence either. Clive Derby Lewis has served 15+ years of a sentence which is deemed to be 25years and has cancer but doesn't qualify for parole, it is clear racism.

      Judith - 2011-12-16 15:57

      @kevin - in the case of Derby-Lewis it is more one of political discrimination than racist

  • Johan - 2011-12-16 11:00

    Apparently they followed the requirements for corrective supervision including excelling at their studies. The parole board sent them to court and the court granted the change in sentence. They are still not "free", but they are no longer a burden on the tax payer. Sound good to me... Add that to the fact the they were wrongfully convicted and it seems as fair as we can get in this depraved little count-tree of ours...

      Mike - 2011-12-16 12:44

      wrongfully convicted? Kom nou, moenie stupid raak nie.

      Johan - 2011-12-16 13:06

      There are people that are convinced and the judges could not answer queries about the case. They cower behind the JSC in light of blatant problems with the physical evidence. Why would that be?

      Mike - 2011-12-16 14:03

      yes and all Johan, but if you do not have the facts to support your claim then do not state it as fact.

      Johan - 2011-12-16 14:29

      Tell me Mike. Do you have the so-called "facts" that they were in fact convicted on sound evidence? My guess is your superficially wise demeanour is based solely on what you read in the newspapers. Read those article again and post some of the irrefutable facts.

      Judith - 2011-12-16 15:59

      I think they are being released early for compassionate reasons since they were so young when they committed the crime

      Mike - 2011-12-16 16:03

      seems there's a new twist to your version as per the DA. Seems you have been privy to special info the rest of us and the judge did not have. BTW YOU claimed they were wrongfully convicted, then YOU prove it, it's not up to me to prove.

      Johan - 2011-12-16 16:09

      I get my info from the docs available at the blog "Avoiding the herd". The post mortem and photos tell a completely different story without even going into the case documentation (which is very interesting indeed). A lot of reading though. More than the newspaper articles you rely on. Good luck.

      Johan - 2011-12-16 16:11

      Oh and what I "know" about the recent info is available from "Die Burger".

  • Andrew - 2011-12-16 11:52

    The fact of the matter is not one of race, colour or creed but that of ignoring an order of the judicary and releasing these people into the terms set by the court. Is this department above the law ??

  • Jaco - 2011-12-16 12:28

    Let them rot and burn in hell. If they can kill a black person they can also kill a white person. What was the skin colour of the guy killing Channelle Henning???

      Johan - 2011-12-16 13:00

      The problems is that there is absolutely no evidence of any person being killed by them. Google "Waterkloof 4" and read the other side of the coin. Your opinion is based solely on the reporting of a sensationalist media. If you still think the media stands for the truth then I truly pity you.

  • Buks - 2011-12-16 12:32

    To keep somebody in custody against a court order, is a crime.

  • Kevin - 2011-12-16 13:42

    Right or wrong,without debating the merit of their crime and whether they deserve to be released on parole, the Court has decided that they be released on parole. No official in the Correctional Sevices Department has the legal right to consider the court order and whether to comply. The action of the officials is contempt of court and they should be locked up pending a court appearence. If the Department wishes to contest the Court Order they should have done so when the matter was set down for hearing by the court, it is clear in their incompentance that they failed to do so and are now in breach of the law. This country needs to return to the rule of law which briefly flourished after 1994 and not follow the path of Zimbabwe.

  • Clive - 2011-12-17 10:38

    Given recent threats by the ANC government against the courts, is it really that surprising that these low level civil servants (ha! ha!) see fit to defy a judicial order? I have not heard any comment from the minister, so one assumes he/she has no problem with her minions taking this stance.

  • frank.hartry - 2011-12-17 11:12

    The Waterkkloof four are a disgusting bunch of killers that should rot in jail. In 2001 they terrorised an elderly homeless black man and then murdered him. They were finally tried and convicted in 2008 after another one of the bunch spilled trhe beans of the despicable crime. These guys have completed a mere three years of what was a lowly 12 year sentence and the parents of these killers are moaning about a delay on releasing them. We can only pray that the stupid judge who ordered their release is reprinmanded and the killers are required to complete their prison time. It is ironic that old man Selebi who is sick and never murdered anyone, is jailed and these four killers are prematurely released. Where is the justice in that. Perhaps it is a black/white thing?

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