Week of mourning after mine shooting

2012-08-19 15:35

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma on Sunday declared a week of national mourning in the wake of the deadly violence at platinum producer Lonmin's Marikana mine, where police gunned down 34 striking workers.

"The nation is in shock and in pain.

"We must this week reflect on the sanctity of human life and the right to life as enshrined in the Constitution of the Republic," said Zuma three days after the tragedy.

The week's mourning will start on Monday, when flags will fly at half mast at flag stations in South Africa and missions outside the country. Thursday was declared an official day for nationwide memorial services.

The week will commemorate recent victims of violence, with Zuma singling out the carnage at the Marikana mine, where Thursday's bloodshed brought the death toll to 44 after 10 people were killed days earlier.

"We must avoid finger-pointing and recrimination. We must unite against violence from whatever quarter. We must reaffirm our belief in peace, stability and order and in building a caring society free of crime and violence," he said.

Lonmin is the world's third biggest platinum producer.

  • jaap.kotze - 2012-08-19 15:44

    What does one do during a ''week of mourning"?

      punungwe - 2012-08-19 15:51

      Drink beer

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-19 16:04

      Drink more beer.

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-19 16:12

      There is something sick about this country. Those weapon carrying thugs were out to seriously harm and kill the law enforcers. Now we must mourn the outcome the thugs deliberately created? Forget it. There will be very little mourning. We need a proper and speedy prosecution process. The thugs and those behind the preparations for the assualt on the police must be jailed. It was an open and deliberate attack on the authority of the state we witnessed. All support for the actions - also afterwards by a certain politician we know well - amounts to complicity. He must also go inside. The mine in any event seems buggered, so go all the way and apply the law. If the authorities let this one opportunity slip by it will be the final blow to law and order in this country.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-19 16:40

      Well they can count me out, what about the 2 cops who lost their lives and the other 8 completely innocent people who got killed simply because they wanted to work. The 38 people (thugs) in question stormed the police while armed with weapons. This was clearly seen in video footage. Savagery and stupidity in the extreme. No sympathy I'm afraid. Definitely Darwin at work here

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-19 16:41

      Just to add a thought that should be seriously considered. Look at the news item. President Jacob Zuma on Sunday declared a week of national mourning in the wake of the deadly violence at platinum producer Lonmin's Marikana mine, where police gunned down 34 STRIKING WORKERS. (Caps added herein.) And so the opportunity for propaganda is created. The media should be much more cirumspect and give a more comprehensive description. Those gunned down may have been striking workers but they were also ARMED AGRESSORS, viciously armed, and they were clearly worked up by some kind of whatever it is that they practise or use for such agressive behaviour. The news item must somehow add more of what really took place. At least state that the police gunned down 34 STONED, AGRESSIVE AND ARMED STRIKING WORKERS. Not very elegant but what are jouranalists there for? At least make an effort to get a more accurated message across. It is often the first paragragph of a news item that sets the tone and understanding of the rest of the communication.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-19 16:59

      Well said Cracker. Being politically correct, and being correct are two very different things

      heinrich.venter.9 - 2012-08-19 19:06

      and some more killing...

      josta.shivuri - 2012-08-19 19:54

      What does one do when they don't "understand" a simple word such as "mourning"? Simply consult the dictionary.

      Vince.York - 2012-08-19 20:53

      Read up a bit of real history to see the bedrock foundation for the cause of is s tad especially as the youth of today have so far only been imbued with a fat thief's juju style of history

      crackston.jack - 2012-08-20 16:56

      why are people mourning these thugs....should be mourning only the police officers and security guards.

  • charnelle.bester - 2012-08-19 15:46

    Yes Zuma, perhaps you should have done something when the first 10 people were killed. I still think this is another ploy to nationalize the friggin mines.

  • anthonycharles.williams - 2012-08-19 15:47

    I hope you mean for the police that got murdered aswell...

      Desilusionada - 2012-08-19 16:12

      And also the +/- 30 x 70 people that will be killed on our roads and the +/-50 x 7 people that will be murdered during the week of mourning? Stop appeasing the Unions/Cosatu for votes and do something Mr. round-shaped-piece-of-wood-with -a-flattened-sharp-pointed-piece-of-metal-attached-to-the-end. PS. One cannot use the word $p€@r, then the moda-ratoor deletes one's posts.

  • charles.saner - 2012-08-19 15:49

    A week of mourning, for 34 thugs? I'm not mourning them, I'm mourning the policemen who died. I'll spare a thought for the 8 miners too. What is next a candle lit vigil for the rapists who are killed by their victims, please man.

  • daleinn - 2012-08-19 15:50

    Normally when the nation is in mourning, all business must come to a halt!

  • pamela.g.quinton - 2012-08-19 15:53

    The day someone comes at me with a spear and I have a gun in my hand I will shoot.shoot,shoot.What about you?

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-08-19 15:58

    We are the murder capital of the world, who will change that? The bulk of the murders are black on black. Murder, Rape, Crime and Corruption. The ones in power are to blame ANC.

  • lacrimose.wolf - 2012-08-19 16:03

    "we must, we must". We all know what you must and should be doing - but you just refuse. We're shocked and pained by violent senseless crime every day. Where's the mourning for those who are tortured and killed every day, who were simply going about their daily lives?

      Desilusionada - 2012-08-19 16:17

      Spot on, Add outraged and angry and disappointed and sad and p1ssed-off and and.. To the point that we are becoming emotionally apathetic to the senseless destruction of life.

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-19 16:03

    Why? It is obvious from the visuals and the information that the police had no choice in the matter. Will we have mournings for every non-mining/non-Lonmin criminal justifialbly killed/downed by the police? Just part of a ploy to take the mines? Charnelle above may well be right.

  • des.palm - 2012-08-19 16:04

    What about the 1000's of farmers killed !!!!!! WTF!!!!!!

  • Teuneman - 2012-08-19 16:06

    I didn't know the people. I Don't feel like mourning. I'm part of the nation but I'm not in shock or pain. Speak for yourself Zuma.

  • king.rasta.583 - 2012-08-19 16:10

    too late mdala

  • punungwe - 2012-08-19 16:11

    Just one question. Who is going to mourn the ten people murdered by the miners?

      Nhlanhla Zondi - 2012-08-19 16:30

      Great question, people are now acting like the miners are innocent in all this. This wouldn't have happened if the manners themselves didn't kill the security guards and the police officer, it is because of those incidents that prompted the police to act in that manner cause the miners had killed before and there was nothing that could've stop them from doing the same thing again

      josta.shivuri - 2012-08-19 19:40

      The nation, well excluding you perhaps and people of your ilk. 44 people have died, this includes the 10. That's if you can't do the maths.

  • joyce.kweyama - 2012-08-19 16:13

    Two weeks mourning actually. Second week SA must mourn the day you became president.

      Shonisani - 2012-08-19 16:22

      So intelligent joyce.We have to mourn the day he become President.

      Fikile Magadla - 2012-08-19 16:31

      I totally agree with u Joyce.How does he and Phiyega give orders for the Police to shoot to kill and then when they follow the orders now the whole nation must that not Hypocrisy?Im not mouning a planned killing.yes police did the right thing they killed because the president said so

      Harold Chisimba - 2012-08-19 16:35

      Joyce- very wise com.

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-19 17:02

      And a third week of morning for an organisation called the ANC destroying our beloved country

      Thanduxolo Galada - 2012-08-19 17:37

      Dear President: I really wanted to respect you but your example is horrendous. I feel for your children when reading this about you and because of that, the honorable thing for you is to put them first. For you to even dream of leading SA until 2019???

  • hudayfah.newman - 2012-08-19 16:16

    I'll mourn for the 10 guys killed yes. But no sympathy for the naked sangoma and his killer friends

  • monde.sibisi - 2012-08-19 16:16

    Flags should be flown at half mast, this is a national tragedy

      rowan.maulson - 2012-08-19 16:57

      The only people the flags should be flown at half mast for are the 2 police officers and 8 innocent victims of this mob. This mob itself does not deserve this honour.

      hermann.hanekom - 2012-08-19 17:53

      We shouls all fly the flag half mast, BUT upside down!

      tw2066 - 2012-08-19 19:56

      The day the ANC put Showerkop in the job it was a tragedy. The fact that even with these deaths the majority dont see it - well thats a disaster

  • chrisfourielipman - 2012-08-19 16:21

    We should all mourn the fact that you are still president of this country

  • shaylene.stenger - 2012-08-19 16:24

    Sorry I won't be mourning the loss of those 34 miners, I don't support barbaric,aggressive and criminal behaviour. However I will mourn the deaths of those 10 innocent miners and policeman!

      tw2066 - 2012-08-19 20:01

      Too true, just last month the ANC were waxing lyrical about police deaths, this week, its screw the police, mourn the mob? The double standards of this lot are unbelieveable... But as a good few people have noted, JZ will trample corpses to get his second term. Amazingly, the average ANC supporter accepts this? Strange indeed.

      shaylene.stenger - 2012-08-19 23:19

      What makes it worse is the behaviour and demonstrations of the strikers have been completly ignored, no one has condemed that, instead we have an idiot Malema who stands infront of them encouraging the behaviour. Has anyone bothered to interview the families of the 10 innocent victims that were slaughtered by the strikers? imagine how they are feeling? Or how about the 4000 farmers that have been murdered? I hear no out cry about that either Clearly the goverment and unions have spawned this violent behaviour and don't mind innocent people being butchered in strikes,everyday life as a citizen in this country and our farmers.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-08-19 16:24

    Oh what a circus, oh what a clown!

  • scott.barkley.376 - 2012-08-19 16:29

    I really wanted to write an educated, objective passage on how comtemptable it is that the ANC are saying:'We must reaffirm our belief in peace, stability and order and in building a caring society free of crime and violence' when the exact opposite is true! The only reason they are actually acknowledging this incident is because it made the world news, as opposed to all the other murders that happen on a daily basis in SA and don't even make the local SABC news anymore! But I am too angry to make an educated, objective statement right now, so instead I'll say: 'Fu%$ you Zuma, you stupid a*&hole! You are not crawling out of this so easily! The world can see how pathetic you and your supporters and your political party are in running this country. They know it is sliding into the gutter faster than you can name all your children. The legacy of the ANC will be a bankrupt, lawless country which you can be proud of!

  • bennie.marais.9 - 2012-08-19 16:30

    This week will will probably see that amount of cops being murdered as they want to limit them to rubber bullets etc only. The miners will charge cops again, simply because of their arrogant savage nature. Message to my friends in blue: Shoot em bitches when your lifes are in danger again!!! This so called mourning is bulls@&t, I do not support this as I don't approve the actions of savage bast@rds....period!!!

  • manu.dibango.96 - 2012-08-19 16:30

    So many disgusting comments. That's SA for you. I for one will mourn the death of those miners. After all for better or worse they were human beings, they were fathers, they were husbands and they were someones child. There is no need to dehumanise them with uncouth language. What many of you forget is that when you dehumanise the black population of SA using your racist language (veiled or otherwise) you are shaping the characters of people you have to live with. So don't complain if the very people you dehumanise behave inhumanly or worse if you fall victim to their inhumanity ... an inhumanity that you cultured. At the end of the day these miners died (were killed) because they wanted as good a life as you, a good life that you are privileged to enjoy. But you are undermining that very good life that you enjoy, and one day when the poor fight back we will see how much trash will come out of your mouth.

      Fikile Magadla - 2012-08-19 16:40

      The Police commissioner authorises the shooting obviously she has spoke to u Mr president and u agreed,44 people died in all.Now why must we Mourn.this is something that could have been avoided,please man.those poor families are crying mourning wont bring back any of the people that died.........

      shannon.moffett.9 - 2012-08-19 16:46

      Ahhhhh Manu - was about to give you a thumbs up until I read your last sentence - and then you lost credibility. Your comment was to me about humanizing people, and the you come back with a comment like that. Sorry, but a thumbs down from me for that.

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-19 17:04

      @ manu... Nonsense. The ten killed by the lawless and aggressive ones were...white or black? You vast majority of the police who fired at the lawless and aggressive ones were...white or black? The justification for arming yourself and charging at police and law enforcers depends on whether you are...white or black?

      manu.dibango.96 - 2012-08-19 17:22

      shannon, let me tell you why that last sentence disturbed you. It disturbed you because I pointed out the consequences of failing to adjust ones attitudes. So you saw a threat to yourself and your way of life. But I have talked to middle class people and all have reacted as you have done. Oh its all fine when the discussion is about how others are suffering. But tell the person of the dire consequences of failing to act or break down the inequalities in society, suddenly its "Why are you telling me that, what has it got to do with me?" The realisation that the suffering of others may overflow into their lives is too much of a shock. It's like telling a smoker that he or she risks lung cancer. They will get upset. But if you tell the person that tobbaco manufacturers exploit their workers and they will happily listen to you. Nobody enjoys hearing about the consequences. So please go ahead and give me all the thumbs down you want.

      chrisfourielipman - 2012-08-19 17:49

      Manu, the fact that they are poor, (and black) does it give them the right to do what they have done. You are one very sick individual.

      manu.dibango.96 - 2012-08-19 18:17

      "Manu, the fact that they are poor, (and black) does it give them the right to do what they have done. You are one very sick individual" chrisfourielipman, what is it exactly that they did? Are you suggesting that the 112 protestors who were shot were involved in the torture and death of the two policemen or the 10 miners? What then of the other 3000 miners who are protesting? Should they also be shot? We don't know all the facts (that's why there is going to be an enquiry). There is a lot of contradictory information. So those of you who have chosen to justify these killings have done so because it fits your perspective, and you have selected only those pieces of information that reinforces this perspective. So how is your perspective to be understood in the absence of definitive facts? What are we to interpret about the personality of people who celebrate the death of others when the full facts are not known? Well what I read from many of the hurtful comments here is that you opinions are heavily influenced by your prejudices against these miners. I choose to look at the bigger picture. What we have here is the convergence of several events, an exploitative employer, competing unions, aggrieved armed miners and a trigger happy police. But considering all this none of those miners deserved to die like a herd of animals. No fiber of my being can accept human beings being killed like that, especially human beings who are only protesting for a better life.

      toofaan.monsoon - 2012-08-19 19:48

      @Manu. Was not going to say anything about this incident, but after seeing how many ppl seem to be against what u are saying I just wanted to let u know that I for one am more than willing to listen to a voice of reason. I commend u on standing up for your belief and backing it up with facts. Most people just mouth off without knowing anythinG.

      tw2066 - 2012-08-19 20:06

      What you forget Manu, is that the miners were killed by a police force who accounts to government. That government is led by a black man, more affluent than you or I. When the poor fights back, it will be that same government that you will have to contend with. Maybe you should be having this discussion with him, after all he has the power to change all those things that seem to bug you.

      chrisfourielipman - 2012-08-19 22:56

      To protest for a better life, yes I agree but to kill, burn and destroy, then they deserve NOTHING!!!

      dee.980 - 2012-08-20 00:58

      Indeed Manu ...... sigh. At every level, this awful event brings to light everything that is wrong in our society. First - Enormous disparity between workers and both govt and business fat cats... and their desperation exploited by the terrible culture of politicking - in this instance, forthcoming Union elections. Second - Unions power being a mainstay of current ANC, so the power plays are even more rabid ..but unions in general seem to be problematic in true representation of workers? Thirdly - too much violence in our culture. And above all - WHERE IS OUR COMPASSION AS A NATION??? I feel sick for both the miners and the police. And sickened by comments here. I pray that good can come of this - in 1) Greater compassion as a nation - hatefulness and violence in our everyday talk / thinking has to end. 2) LAWFULNESS (if that's a word?) - respect for law,and from leaders - less 'struggle' / revolution vocabulary , war song tolerance - and ETHICS as our highest consciousness of daily life.

      Brad - 2012-08-20 09:03

      @Manu If they really want a better life, they shoud educate themselves and get a better job.

      faith.hope.5477 - 2012-08-20 16:23

      Manu - I WORK (a four letter word I know but still ...) for what I want and if I am unhappy in my current situation, I once again WORK to better myself and move forward in my life. I DO NOT hold my employer hostage. I DO NOT destroy my employer's nor my Country's property. I DO NOT attack an obviously armed police force. I DO NOT abandon my work place to dance in the streets due to my unhappiness. Should I carry on?? I have ZERO respect for the miners, dead or alive, who attacked the police. I have ZERO sympathy for the miners, dead or alive, who would perpetrate such vile atrocities upon fellow humans, such as killing the people who just want to earn an honest day's living. You SERIOUSLY need to catch a wake up and open your eyes to the propaganda being fed to you by the government and unions. Do not for one minute think that they are ACTUALLY mourning. They are in seventh Heaven over this. This is exactly what they wanted. ... time to wake up Mr.

  • Bosvark Van Rensburg - 2012-08-19 16:32

    Well it was not a tragedy, they were warned by the law officials and not forgetting the 10 lives lost to their violence. Soon we will be mourning the death of prisoners who gets killed while trying to escape or maybe a gang of armed robbers who gets killed after a shoot-out with the police, just because of their large number.

  • jason.becker.969 - 2012-08-19 16:36

    How about a week of mourning for the 2 slain police officers hacked to death by the mob. And can we also please have a week of mourning for the slm

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-08-19 16:41

    Cry beloved Country..... even though we have no tears anymore!

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-19 17:06

      My sentiments too, I fear for the future of this country, my home that I love.

  • peter.kelly.921025 - 2012-08-19 16:42

    Well done to the Police who shot these thugs! More bullets are what is needed not mourning.

  • Stresseman - 2012-08-19 16:42

    What does a "week of mourning" actually mean? Is it a "holiday" or just a special week? I haven't read all the comments (there are so many) so I don't know if this was answered. Anyways, I agree that the loss of any life to this extent should be mourned by the country. Even if they were thugs, then we should mourn the fact that our society turned them into thugs. We should grieve! We should concentrate our emotions of anger at the situation in the country into helping each other. The government may be bringing the country down, but that can be countered by good people working to bring it up. Just some food for thought.

      manu.dibango.96 - 2012-08-19 16:46

      Well said. At the end of the day if everyone made a positive contribution in the life of another person things will get better. But not this celebration that we are seeing by so many.

      Vince.York - 2012-08-19 21:02

      When did the SAHRC stop writing this HISTORY OF UNION ORCHESTRATED VIOLENCE let alone the poor & despicable obe YL propaganda? - - - - - - - - - - - - - verwoed setup apartheid structures culminating in Sharpeville and zuma undid the anc zip culminating in this Marikana tragedy

      antoinette.jordaan - 2012-08-21 13:57

      I agree with the fact that we should "mourn" the lives lost. What I will not sympathise with though is the violence started by the strikers. It's one thing to raise your concerns, but a whole different kettle of fish when you pitch up with weapons! That's mos asking for it! If you want to strike, fine, strike. But for the love of this nation, STOP the violence and destruction. No sympathy with that!

  • jason.becker.969 - 2012-08-19 16:45

    How about a week of mourning for the 2 slain police officers hacked to death by the mob. And can we also please have a week of mourning for the almost 4000 farmers who've been brutally slaughtered since 1994. Oh and finally can we please have a week of mourning for the 17000 murders a year we have in this god forsaken country. Why is it only NOW when thousands of striking miners storm a police line armed with pangas and a hand gun resulting in the police firing on them for fear of being hacked to pieces like their colleagues 2 days prior, that we have a \week of mourning\? Every bloody week in S.A should be mourned for ALL lives taken by filthy criminal scum on a DAILY basis.

  • danie.smit.587 - 2012-08-19 16:48

    Who must we blame? Incompetent police management that bann shotguns, and appoint incompetent inexperience police in leadership positions? Police at the scene holding a R4 on the magazine, closing their eyes and firing to people indiscriminately on Automatic fire? Striker killing workers , cops and security guards in the week before ? The person shooting at the police helicopter. Strikers having spears and pangas? Cosatu management that allow strikes under their command to turn violent. ANC politicians putting noncompeting cops in positions where they could order such a mass killing? Or each and every ABC voter allowing a system of affirmative action , whre a black skin is the only qualification required?

  • Harold Chisimba - 2012-08-19 16:51

    Time wastage for one week mourning, Instead of finding the solution for the problem. Those passionate and hardiworking officers whole were killed brutally are not even considered and honoured.

  • phae.rayden - 2012-08-19 16:52

    Zuma this is a ridiculous idea in the face of a country drowning in unacknowledged mindless killings everyday. Think of something more constructive to do to help the situation, because while you weep and attend official memorial functions all week, dressed up and stuffing your face, Malema will be inciting revolution on other mines. At this point it won't take much for us to be seeing a whole lot more crowds of angry people rushing at the police. For once show some leadership skills, this country is spiralling into chaos under your watch.

  • Stewart Croucamp - 2012-08-19 16:52

    These F@*king barbarians will not be mourned by me. There intention was to kill our policeman. Our policeman should be respected.

  • tommy.rinrin - 2012-08-19 16:57

    ... Rest In Peace to all who lost lives during this terrible ordeal ...

  • Johan De Beer - 2012-08-19 17:03

    Who's mourning?

  • bennie.marais.9 - 2012-08-19 17:05

    To my friend manu.dibango, please be so kind as to stop playing the race card that you and your fellow brothers are so used to playing for your savage actions. There are lots of poor uneducated white people too in this country and do not play any card when they do something is commen sence that you do not charge police officers with pangas/machetes/guns when they are armed. They too have families and cannot afford to die by the hands of your savage kind in this country that takes lifes of innocent people for a few bucks. Next time my friend, rather shut the hell up and stop blaming apartheid for your is really irritating hearing your type playing one of the following cards: formerly disadvantaged, apartheid, whites, boere, opressed, etc. Dammit....just stop it!!!

      Johan De Beer - 2012-08-19 17:16

      Hear hear!

      manu.dibango.96 - 2012-08-19 17:41

      bennie, You need to learn to stop accusing blacks of pulling the race card everytime a black person defends issues that affect them. It's a tragedy in this country that blacks cannot openly speak about their circumstances lest a white person accuse them of "pulling the race card." It's an absurd situation that the majority blacks in this country cannot say "We blacks are at the bottom of the economic ladder" without being accused by people like yourself of bringing race into the issue. Totally absurd. But if a white farmer gets killed, suddenly it's "Genocide, white farmers being killed". Do you see us accusing you of pulling the race card? As an African and as a black person it disturbed me to the core to see fellow blacks gunned down like a herd of animals. The humanity of blackness in this country was diminished in marakani, and in my heart I feel that diminished humanity. So when I come to this site and see so many of you celebrating the death of people I have kinship with I will not hold my tongue, and if you don't like it you can go to hell. I refuse to be define by people like you who fail to appreciate the simple fact that those people who died in that field were human beings.

      toinette.keel - 2012-08-19 17:45

      Hear hear Bennie bloody savage thugs got what was coming to them, dare the police and you will see your ass! Stupid thugs, 34 way to low a count anyway!!

      bennie.marais.9 - 2012-08-19 18:00

      Dear manu.dibango.96, have you watched the videos on youtube relating to this incident? I suppose no comments would have been posted by yourself if that number turned out to be cops. I was in the SAPS too and let me tell you something...I would have shot the crap out of them if I found myself in that situation!!! It is common sence that you do not charge armed police officers. You are all savage and then try and talk it good after such bloody ordeals! It was high time that the cops stood their ground for the sake of this country and to show your type for once and for all that you cannot get away with everything! Reading your comments, you must be having a low IQ I guess!

      manu.dibango.96 - 2012-08-19 18:25

      bennie, That's where you are wrong. My reaction would have been just as strong if the cops had been killed and that is the difference between you and me. My objection is that the situation even had to come to this. If these miners had been paid the wages they deserve then none of this would have happened. No lives would have been lost. But small minded people like you are more fixated on the fact the police killed the miners and not the other way round and how much better a result this is. And you have the audacity to call me the savage.

  • wisemadm - 2012-08-19 17:31

    Mr president I understand what ever you say but there is issues around this issue of Marikana and can you please fire national police commisioner because she killed peoples.How can she say police were acting on self defence because miners were armed to teeth with guns but there was no guns next to those dead bodies of the miners and they don't even have five guns taken from arrested miners and I'm sure that every one short was short from their baCk which shows that miner was actualy running away so she lied to the nation miners was not fighting if they were fighting as she claim I'm telling you we would be counting hundred of dead boby including police bodies.

      bennie.marais.9 - 2012-08-19 17:45

      Go to youtube and view all the videos that are there before posting comments like these. One of those videos clearly as hell shows a gun being romoved from a body....and not just any gun, the very same one that was stolen from one of the slain policemen.

      chrisfourielipman - 2012-08-19 17:57

      Wisemad, you are not very wise are you? MAD... yes, but not wise

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-08-19 17:50

    What a vulgar joke, where was the week of mourning for our two policemen and the security guard who where slaughtered by the friendly peace loving mob of barbarians?

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  • wittstockcarl - 2012-08-19 18:02

    These protests turn violent because the ANC let their "comrades" (ANCYL, ANCWL, CASATO, SACP, NUMSA, NUM etc) do what they want without consequences. Then they overstep the mark and the law has to be enforced and it turns ugly- then it's blamed on the police for excessive force! Blood is on the ANC's hands. Cadre deployment will never be the answer.

      crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-19 18:28

      Exactly one of the realities we are faced with. We saw on our TV screens and first hand observed it in our cities how protesting and striking workers get out of hand and they are actually allowed to do it. This is not to say the police should be blamed for the current Lonmin self-defence on their (the police) part. If we had firm action in the past the current consequences may have been averted. One hopes the commission of enquiry will also look into the effects of past police inefficiency in such protest matters and how it may have given rise to the expectation of the armed and aggressive thugs that they might just get away with their low illegal and quite frankly murdering activities. It calls to mind how many unsolved labour related murders are still unaccounted for.

  • clint.angryman.morgan - 2012-08-19 18:04

    on average, 200 cops have been murdered every year since 1994! No week of mourning for them! There was nothing peaceful about that protest - the protestors looked for trouble and boy did they find it! I really feel for the cops that were on the scene...I don't think any policeman joins the force expecting to take a human life but sometimes they are called upon to do just that. Being a cop isn't easy and what the haters seem to forget is that police men & women have to walk in the shadow of violence and despair on a daily basis to keep us safe! I know that you are not proud of all the lives that were lost on that crazy day but You stood your ground and performed your duty and for that I salute all of you!

  • patricia.dewet.92 - 2012-08-19 18:13

    Does this mean we al strike for a week.

  • Louise Whittingstall Barnard - 2012-08-19 18:20

    I am so tired of hearing about these poor miners who have been wronged and we hear nothing about the people they hacked to death in cold blood!! I think more needs to be written about their behavior throughout this whole drama!!

  • christof.coetzee - 2012-08-19 19:22

    Yes and while you're mourning, think hard about your savage, criminal actions that led to your self-destruction and the impact that this has on SA's economy and global investor sentiment - which impacts ALL OF US!!

  • Ridgeway Khantsi - 2012-08-19 19:26

    the role of the president is to defend civilians.he failed to defend ordinary people.we don't have a president'

  • tembelanijokazi - 2012-08-19 19:47

    if anc government justifies police actions,then it clear that Nnational party government during june 16 were in the same position.if police get medals nd praise,we should do the same to those who faced june 16 riots.there is no difference

      tw2066 - 2012-08-19 20:13

      Your comment is 100% spot on. We have replaced a white racist nationalist government with a black racist Nationalist government. The sooner we realise this, the sooner we can get rid of the ANC mennace and move on.

  • normboolalor.scizaar - 2012-08-19 21:08

    There's a saying that says,“those that know violence only live by the sword, die by the sword”

  • michil.chegwidden - 2012-08-19 21:38

    Give that ma a Bell's

  • michil.chegwidden - 2012-08-19 21:44

    Every body are missing the point, it was the Union that had provoked the people to attack!, I wonder how many South Africans were killed and how many foreigners.

  • bamakhani - 2012-08-19 22:02

    That was a worst week for this year so far. The mine must also close for the week. 3 SAPS members were shot by criminals.

  • tw2066 - 2012-08-20 05:56

    A week in mourning, hell the country has been 18 years in mourning because of the death of the country, murder of democracy and the slaughter of common sense.