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White beggars make R172 per day

2013-02-06 10:08

Johannesburg - White beggars make on average about R172 per day when begging on the streets of South Africa.

This was revealed in research done in Gauteng, the Western Cape and KwaZulu-Natal by Solidarity’s Helping Hand at the end of last year, reported Beeld.

Danie Brink, executive head of Helping Hand said the study came after two employees pretended to be beggars in Plettenberg Bay in a fundraising attempt and were given R1 200 within two hours.

Their questionnaire was completed by 61 beggars.

About 16% of the beggars said they got less than R50 a day while 7% said they got more than R500 a day. About a quarter said they managed to make between R51 and R100 a day and another 25% said they got between R151 and R250  a day. Close to 10% said they made between R300 and R400 a day and 3% made between R401 and R500 a day.

Brink said he was quite sure that this information was correct. He conceded however, that the beggars’ claim that they spent 80% on food was probably not accurate.

About 18% of the beggars indicated that they bought alcohol and 7% admitted to using drugs.

About 78% of the beggars indicated that they wanted to work but said they didn’t want to do “inferior work”. Nearly 60% of the beggars had not passed matric.

The study also found that black beggars tried to sell things on the streets but not white beggars. Some white beggars also rejected work offers.

Comments
  • Dennis - 2013-02-06 10:17

    I love the " inferior work" comment. You mean anything less that CEO with a fat Merc. Rubbish.

      hazyview.tourism - 2013-02-06 12:15

      lol, I thought they are going to say white beggars makes six times more than black beggars.

      marcus.vermaak - 2013-02-06 12:25

      Alicia, I can't help but laugh at people like you. "The Cape Town sun"? Really, you had to add the CT part? Is the sun hotter in CT than in any part of SA? Does it shoot off other beams of light? Does the sun in CT have less crime? You do make a valid point, just can't understand why the sun is "more" special in CT?

      lesedi.wilson.9 - 2013-02-06 12:33

      Alicialouise, I didn't see anything about the methods used by white beggars to obtain money. I'm pretty sure they'd probably go to jail if a white baby was being used for that.

      MagdaKus - 2013-02-06 13:52

      I would suggest not to generalize... There is not enough work out there for everyone- so some are doing it because for whatever reason they cannot find work. Perhaps some of them abuse our good nature. But I would rather be on the giving end than the receiving end of charity...

      bennie.kruger.5 - 2013-02-06 14:14

      Beggars cant be Choosers

  • JamesMWood - 2013-02-06 10:21

    Well that's a bad story for beggars, no more handouts!

      procold2 - 2013-02-06 10:59

      I knew this long ago, i dont give them a cent and the metro police should get rid of them, i see there is a new move they crouch down on their knee's hanging their heads, cars on the off ramp are going to knock them over and it will be the drivers fault, metro get them off the streets please.

      paul.bester1 - 2013-02-06 11:07

      I was just thinking the same thing: There are going to be a lot less handouts now that the public knows they get so much money. I for one won't be handing out any spare change anymore.

      Eternity - 2013-02-06 11:49

      Way I see it - if you pay TAX then you are already giving to them... well that is where some of your TAX money is meant to go at least. I don't give beggers money, nut if I have food that I don't want or need then I will give it to them.

      tamlin.vanheerver - 2013-02-06 12:02

      you mean to WHITE BEGGARS....

      Dinos.Kaparos - 2013-02-06 12:50

      to any beggar

  • christiana.vespucci - 2013-02-06 10:23

    "beggars can't be choosers". But some beggars are just too demanding. People who give these beggars money should be charged for encouraging them (the beggars) to continue doing what they doing. Cause they see it's easy money. And with so many whites complaining about how they can't get jobs. And here even the beggars don't want "inferior jobs". I wonder what education these white beggars has. People in south Africa has become too freaking lazy.

  • luther.duplessis.3 - 2013-02-06 10:23

    "White beggars make R172 per day" I thought we aren't aloud to be resist?

  • PointBlank - 2013-02-06 10:24

    "He conceded however, that the beggars’ claim that they spent 80% on food was probably not accurate." Nooooooo... Really?? :) :)

  • mike.matshaba.7 - 2013-02-06 10:25

    Dont give to BEGGARS

  • neville.watson.31 - 2013-02-06 10:25

    Well charities are no longer allowed to donate to white causes so I guess this is what would happen.

  • brian.dlamini - 2013-02-06 10:28

    An oke with no job says there is "inferior work"?! Wats more inferior to begging?!!

  • sekwati.robinson - 2013-02-06 10:28

    hmmmm more than R500 per day multiply by 31 days if things go well it shud result to - R14 000 a month wow..no wonder people refuse to go to school and don't want to leave the streets..lol but i don't quiet believe the refusing to work part..can beggars realy afford to choose?

  • mordikaai.speak - 2013-02-06 10:28

    Why was the survey colour based?

  • sir.wernich - 2013-02-06 10:30

    ancyl responds: these white buggers are chatcharag. we call on the government to nationalise begging.

  • sharkie.fin - 2013-02-06 10:31

    They make more than me!

  • jaques.brink.9 - 2013-02-06 10:31

    Very lucrative business, no wonder there is an increase of beggars these day's

  • Tawizee - 2013-02-06 10:34

    So basically the beggars earn more than farm workers?

  • peter.ndamase - 2013-02-06 10:34

    We are beaten in every aspect... Jokes aside, please rather give food than money. Beggars are generally alcoholics.

  • justin.roper.3705 - 2013-02-06 10:34

    Beggars are beggars there are no colour, always with race, come on people let this race rubbish go. This is South Africa we are all africans no matter what colour your skin is.

  • dwaynemi - 2013-02-06 10:35

    This is why I refuse to give beggars a cent! Why must I, as an able bodied person give another able bodied person my hard earned money! Some of those beggars are making more money than I do and I have a degree, but at least I've made mine through hard work and honesty!

  • mordikaai.speak - 2013-02-06 10:37

    Why was the survey colour based? Secondly what base and where.

  • ulandi.bekker - 2013-02-06 10:39

    They do not really want to work, they make more money standing at the robot! A lot of young beggars lately, I say they ARE TOO LAZY TO WORK!

  • Blackpoison - 2013-02-06 10:40

    Just now there will be calls for a minimum handout to beggars...

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2013-02-06 10:43

    What can be more inferior than begging ? Lazy bunch...

  • tian.nel.31 - 2013-02-06 10:45

    18 percent of them admit buying booze with the money?thats rubbish!i would say more like 90 percent.most of them land on the streets due to being alcholics or drugs or mental illness.

  • karabo.legodi.54 - 2013-02-06 10:57

    I wish we did not have to have beggars. Life is a struggle for them.

  • ntsikelelo.macozoma - 2013-02-06 10:58

    They get above the proposed minimum salary for the farm workers for jst doin nothin.

  • johan.syffert - 2013-02-06 10:58

    So how much do black beggars make?

  • napolita.kio - 2013-02-06 10:59

    Wow...is it just MY comments or everyone's that has to wait for the comments to be read by the "moderator"?

  • yanga.maroloma - 2013-02-06 11:00

    'Inferior work' ha!! So it means begging is Superior means to them... Such mentality even to the poorest of the poor, tjo!

  • iwillemse - 2013-02-06 11:01

    and u complain about R105 day 4 a farmworker,

  • jruppersberg - 2013-02-06 11:02

    And how much do the BLACK beggars earn??

  • briana.scott - 2013-02-06 11:02

    well the only beggars I give money to are always the same people. None of them being white. All old so unable to work. I also refuse to give handouts to the white beggars because the amount of times i see the ladies with a new dye job, chatting on the phone i am left smiling. They should at least have the smarts to put on a hat and cover up the new hairdos. Maybe if they had those kinds of smarts they wouldn't only have 'inferior jobs' available to them. WTF.

  • AntikZa - 2013-02-06 11:06

    I used to try and help and offer work to beggars. White and black but has stopped because it is way easier to beg, come and go as you like than to take responsibility and work hard at a real job. Inferior jobs?? What could be more degrading than begging?

  • AceOfSpades - 2013-02-06 11:07

    They should have included those in Krugersdorp. Once saw a documentary about how they are persecuted...

  • Yandisa Rwaai - 2013-02-06 11:08

    What really puzzles me is that the're just as much white beggars as that of black beggars and I've never seen any white hawkers and you will hardly see them selling anything on the robots. So in essence they're too proud to make an honest leaving they would rather beg and bother ppl than to hawk hence i never give them sh@t.

      grantcallaway - 2013-02-06 12:17

      I'm not sure if hawking is actually legal? Regardless, I agree that I am much more willing to help somebody out who is at least TRYING to make an honest living.

      vlarismam - 2013-02-06 14:21

      Begging is not necessarily a dishonest way to earn a living. And never mind being proud, I'd be sh&t scared to be hawking on the roads...

  • lance.robile - 2013-02-06 11:09

    Making 200 bucks a day standing at a traffic light with a card board sign around your neck, It's a profession.

      squeegee.pilot - 2013-02-06 12:34

      Yep, farm workers will now get R105 per day for 9 hours of manual labor...

  • Genesistt - 2013-02-06 11:10

    And this is why I won't give to any beggars, be they black or white. At least the guys selling stuff at the traffic lights worked to earn their money. They don't just stand there with a pretty sign asking for money.

  • Tim Vlok - 2013-02-06 11:10

    That is exactly why i have never given beggars a cent, because all you doing is motivating them to stay there. One dude was begging on the corner in morning, pretending to cry and what, that evening when driving home i saw him changing into brand new levi jeans, and nike shoes whereafter he got into his toyota tazz which was hidden some distance in the bush and off he went. they are such liars and i think the drug and alcohol use is much higher than what the report says. i actually detest beggars and often show them the middle finger, because they will beg and plead and harass you, if you dont give them anything they swear you. also at 500 a day that dude is earning 10K a month at least, he doesnt pay tax and quite frankly they should be arrested for obstructing traffic.

      lucky.mpoza - 2013-02-06 11:43

      yho!

      Sasha D - 2013-02-06 13:11

      Precisely right. That is my biggest issue with foreign aid to Africa. Instead of money why not rather provide assistance with teaching people how to do make a living for themselves and generate financing for the state in the way of taxes. Just throwing money at a problem like this is such a cop out and denies any kind of moral responsibility to help people sort their lives out. Foreign aid encourages a beggar mentality. in the same way that giving people money on the street encourages them to continue begging. Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and you feed him for a lifetime.

  • mike.matshaba.7 - 2013-02-06 11:11

    I want to b a Beggar

      marcus.vermaak - 2013-02-06 12:26

      I want to be a Simba Chippy!

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2013-02-06 11:11

    Just come to show laziness knows no bounds.

  • johan.jacobs.5680 - 2013-02-06 11:15

    Crime doesn't pay neither does work. Begging looks good.

  • ze.mac.58 - 2013-02-06 11:15

    when you see a begger (any race)offer him/her work 99% will say no(without the thanks).THATS WHY I DONT GIVE

  • napolita.kio - 2013-02-06 11:15

    News24 is the best news source in the world...

  • kuno.tschumi.5 - 2013-02-06 11:16

    60% have no matric and complain about "inferior work". Well guess in order to drive a big German car you either need to have matric or be the president of this country. If i look at the beggars in our area i can tell you that most of them spend the money on alcohol and not on food.

  • solo.mathe.5 - 2013-02-06 11:17

    Lol.. I wouldn't have thought they made so much money. I've heard the inferior work excuse before... They need to get a life, or a job, cause business is gonna be bad from now on...

  • raymond.lloyd.73 - 2013-02-06 11:18

    " Inferior work " ....I am an artisan doing manual work ....so these beggars are better off then ?

  • linda.duplessis.10 - 2013-02-06 11:18

    Most of the beggars I have seen, smoke and own cell phones. I have offered a number of them work, arranged to pick them up the following day, and arrived to find they have disappeared. Two beggars currently live under the bridge in Lyttelton Road, Centurion. One has a fake spastic foot,and walks with a limp. Sometimes the foot is in a cast or an orthapedic boot. However, the foot seems to miraculously heal at night. I have observed them on a number of occasions walking down the road chatting and laughing. DO NOT give them your hard earned money. Rather donate to a reputable oragnisation. These people should be off the streets and put into forced labour.

  • flip.fourie.71 - 2013-02-06 11:19

    No work is inferior, ask me...

  • eagarcia3 - 2013-02-06 11:22

    What kind of work can be inferior to being a beggar? Perhaps a thief?

  • carl.fourie.9 - 2013-02-06 11:24

    Lets face it a lot of white people lately has become beggars and you and I can only guess why...I do give money especially to elderly people who try to raise funds for elderly homes who are not subsidized anymore

  • bibi.vanzyl - 2013-02-06 11:25

    In Sandton, I remember according to a TV program a few years ago, the beggars made anything from R200-300 p.d. These were mostly people from neighbouring countries.

  • Charles - 2013-02-06 11:33

    Why do we have lesser comment on this topic. Let me reserve my comment before im labelled a racist. For a change i cant hear the word corruption or so i think.