Winnie spat: Lay out the evidence - DA

2011-09-28 16:14

Johannesburg - If there is enough evidence to charge two policemen for pulling over Winnie Madikizela-Mandela, there should be enough evidence for counter-charges, the DA said on Wednesday.

"The police officers were not aware the car carried Madikizela-Mandela when they pulled it over," the party's Gauteng spokesperson for safety and security Kate Lorimer said.

"Why would the car have been pulled over if it had not been doing something irregular?"

Warrant Officer Jannie Odendaal and Constable Abel Twala stopped Madikizela-Mandela's car in December last year because it was reportedly being driven recklessly at 150km/h.


An argument between the officers and the occupants of the ANC MP's car followed. Her bodyguards brought charges of intimidation and pointing of a firearm against the policemen.

On Tuesday, charges against the bodyguards and Madikizela-Mandela were dropped, but the policemen, who were on suspension, would be criminally charged.

Prosecutor Kholeka Gcaleka of the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) said on Monday that the department of public prosecutions had "enough proof" to prosecute.

Lorimer challenged the NPA to lay out all the evidence for public scrutiny if this was the case.

"If we are truly to believe there is no fault... we must see all the evidence available from both sides. Once again, it looks like a case of special treatment for members of the ANC elite."

  • Johnny-BB - 2011-09-28 16:18

    ...where is Stompie..???

      Servaas - 2011-09-28 16:23

      Go DA: Love the way the DA is a thorn in the side of criminals(ANC)..

      Slartibartfast - 2011-09-28 16:43

      Where is Stompie indeed!?!?!? As I always say ... this sense of "entitlement" the ANC (and other) elite sffer from is sooopervasive. Even The Arch suffers from it. Disgusting!!

      Shadoz - 2011-09-28 17:01

      Servaas it seems thats all they are. It's like pissing in the wind when it comes to the anc and all they do wrong. I think it is high time we get justice against these lawless idiots dirty harry style.

      MyWereld - 2011-09-28 23:19

      Servaas: Stompie went up in smoke... Winnie belongs to the "Golden Circle" of the ANC; they are all untouchable.

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-09-29 22:59

      Yet she remains a TOWNSHIP NAAI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • jen - 2011-09-28 16:19

    This is truly sickening. Mrs Mandela has already gotten away with murder and a myriad of other criminal activities, including hate speech, and now the ANC is prepared to crucify two policemen who were simply doing their job. What are out police supposed to do if a MP is breaking the law? Sick to my stomach!

      steve - 2011-09-28 16:30

      What's with the down vote? She speaks the truth.

      Shadoz - 2011-09-28 17:03

      Steve it is probely one of her winnie's blind followers that have the wool over there eyes

      steve - 2011-09-28 17:35

      @Shadoz. What I meant, was that jen speaks the truth you moron.

      PyroSA - 2011-09-28 19:10

      @Steve - Shadoz was most likely referring to the people downvoting jen. Your rebuke was uncalled for.

  • ChrisW - 2011-09-28 16:21

    Happy birthday to Winnie.....RIP Stompie

  • Paul - 2011-09-28 16:25

    I agree that there is special treament just because it happened to be Winnie.Can you imagine what would have happened if her car had been trying to overtake our 'Blue light Brigade'at that speed? She would have been shot, not pulled over. Maybe that isnt such a bad idea after all... Hope the cops get off and sue her.

  • the mc - 2011-09-28 16:25

    this air conditioner in the laps is making me feel cold..(yawn!!)..when is the springboks playing again since there is clearly nothing worth reading?

      CC - 2011-09-28 16:32

      You should be working and contributing to society!

      DeonL - 2011-09-28 16:37

      Friday. Go Bokke

  • Seven9 - 2011-09-28 16:38

    Another ANC joke, i am now collecting and compiling a book.... Will be great (funny) reading :-)

  • Deone Wardle - 2011-09-28 16:39

    Well, I'm sure by now it's obvious that the terms"without fear, without favor and without prejudice" obviously doesn't apply to the COMPROMISED NPA!!!

  • PhatCatt - 2011-09-28 16:39

    Calm-down everybody - if this gets to court the cops get to call witnesses, present their facts, call Winnie to the stand etc - they get a good chance to make their case. And if the judge realises their is fault on the other party he can make it in his judgement, which means the NPA is forced to prosecute. So as long as the cops make sure their union is payming for the court case, all will be revealed...

      christine - 2011-09-28 17:50

      catch a wake up phattcatt----whose sede u think the judge will be on ---what u smoking

  • Slartibartfast - 2011-09-28 16:41

    "Once again, it looks like a case of special treatment for members of the ANC elite." As I ALWAYS comment ... that sense of "entitlement" is all pervasive ... even "The Arch" suffers from it. Where is Stompie indeed???

  • Vela Stardust - 2011-09-28 17:08

    Winnie should be ashamed of herself!

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  • rob barrie - 2011-09-28 17:10

    a absolute criminal allowed to sit in parlaiment and victimize innocent people

      Paul - 2011-09-28 20:08

      no she doesn't sit in Parliament. She is never there.. she just gets the money.

  • Boerseun - 2011-09-28 17:14

    Hopefully the courts will kick this out, as it should be.

  • kingkong - 2011-09-28 17:23

    above the law above the law thank God almighty she is above the law to the two policeman your ticket has been punched this my friends is where you must get off this stupid foolish force take your money and run

      standoff - 2011-09-28 18:12

      FOOL! In a GENUINE democracy NO ONE is supposed to be above the law .

      Ogre - 2011-09-28 23:08

      I hope you cry like a baby and pray for the help of these two police officers when you are a victim of criminal activity.

  • domkop - 2011-09-28 17:47

    How would the poor police have known the particular car was carrying a holy cow?

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-09-28 18:51

      Holy Cow? No bru.... she is just a plain old TOWNSHIP NAAI! Diference between Weenie and Park Station? More men went thru Weenie... than TRAINS went thru Park Station...

  • Doug - 2011-09-28 19:08

    Evil bitch!

  • Sceptic - 2011-09-28 19:57

    a dog doesn't bite another dog. an afrikaans saying, and it actually is better said in afrikaans "'n hond byt nie 'n ander hond nie". if you dont get it then just move on.

      AMS-Dammer - 2011-09-28 22:52

      Maar n hond NAAI sy eie MA!

  • FM150 - 2011-09-29 00:52

    This is total B@LLSH!T! ! ! Enough said

  • leon.alhadeff - 2011-09-29 07:08

    When reading this, one wonders if this is the best way to motivate an already brow beaten police service. The SAPS have enough challenges without the need to add political interference. The average citizen cannot even get representation in court so why this is necessary, is beyond comprehension. Yet the minister remains quite because a minister objected to bieng pulled over after driving recklessly whilst traveling at a reported 150 km/h. We already have that "Could not care less" attitude and the ministers silence and absolute lack of support for two dedicated members and employees falls very short. The only aspect that one can walk away with here is that members of parlment and the politically connected are untouchable and beyond reproach.

  • Showerhead - 2011-09-29 10:13

    Cameras and microphones should be installed as standard technology in police and metro vehicles. But then again it will not be accepted as prove in our courts. Americans make use of the available technology as seen on TV, so why not us.

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