Witness: Breytenbach leaked info to media

2012-07-25 15:57

Pretoria - Suspended NPA prosecutor Glynnis Breytenbach leaked information to the media, a witness told her disciplinary hearing in Pretoria on Wednesday.

"During the analysis of the e-mails we stumbled upon e-mails between advocate Breytenbach and Sonja Carstens... in which they [have] had various interactions since 2007," National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) official Hercules Wasserman said.

His team found a number of e-mails between Breytenbach and Carstens, a reporter at Beeld, that indicated something other than a professional relationship, he said.

This was in breach of NPA policies, which prohibited employees from speaking to the media.

Internal matter

Wasserman, acting senior manager of the NPA's integrity management unit, said as an NPA employee himself it was important to adhere to the media policy.

"If the general public loses their confidence in the criminal justice system, we've got a problem."

Breytenbach's disciplinary hearing was an internal matter and nothing to do with the media, he said.

"Advocate Breytenbach is not the only senior officer in the NPA under investigation at the moment."

His unit was handling numerous cases, as it was a constitutional right to be able to ask the National Director of Public Prosecutions to review an investigation.

Other senior officers involved in high profile cases were also the subjects of disciplinary inquiries, but these were not covered by the media, Wasserman said.

"If all those employees were running to the media, we would have had havoc."

E-mails about dog food, SPCA

Breytenbach was not authorised to speak to the media on any issue, he said.

He read out various e-mails between Carstens and Breytenbach about dog food, the SPCA and the Facebook status of NPA spokesperson Mthunzi Mhaga.

He said that on April 30, the day Breytenbach was suspended as regional head of the specialised commercial crime unit, she had allegedly said to an NPA employee: "Sonja Carstens wants to know: are you guys are going to suspend me or not?"

Wasserman said he had warned Breytenbach's attorney Gerhard Wagenaar that if he spoke to the media about the case, it would be seen as Breytenbach speaking.

Some of the charges Breytenbach was facing related to her bringing the NPA into disrepute by speaking to the media, either directly or via her attorney, without authorisation.

Wasserman's unit was asked to investigate Breytenbach following a complaint by Mendelow Jacobs Attorneys, on behalf of Imperial Crown Trading (ICT) in December last year.

This related to a dispute between ICT and Sishen/Kumba Iron Ore over mining rights, which Breytenbach investigated.

Breytenbach has pleaded not guilty to 16 charges brought against her by the NPA at the hearing at its offices in Silverton.

  • andre.marx - 2012-07-25 16:08

    This hearing appears to be very petty on the part of the NPA. Its almost as if they have nothing better to do. Their investigator does not seem to be have paid much attentention to detail., or else he must be extremely incompetant.

      ernest.a.dumont - 2012-07-25 16:46

      I think he has done the investigation under a silent protest... because I can't believe the twaddle they are dredging up... she can't discuss cat food with anyone from the media WHATTTTTTTTTTTT!!

      press.enter.12 - 2012-07-25 18:45

      Surely - if I am suspended by my employer and the press asks me if I have been suspended I am entitled to say yes or no - How can that be interpreted as spilling the secrets of the NPA ? And it is really irrelevant what the NPA thinks is relevant for the press. And someone is not allowed to speak to te press - about work matters yes - but about cat food - what rubbish ! Are they denying her her freedom of speech about cat food ?

  • tumisang.kolobe - 2012-07-25 16:08

    Absolutely I agree, funny how the media were ready to jump for her defense, could it be that they knew their source of information was now going to be dismissed, they were willing to spend millions juts to be present in this case, the Mdluli Saga was just a means for them to hoodwink the ordinary people from the reality that she was feeding the media internal information.

      Malose-Nyatlo - 2012-07-25 16:21

      Spot on Tumi, but the harm caused to NPA is unwarranted. If found guilty of improper conduct, she must walk.

      wendy.craig.9655 - 2012-07-25 16:40

      Apply your brain - if this was indeed the cast then why was the NPA so obssessed with not allowing media access to the hearing? The real story will come out when she gets a chance to tell her side.

      ernest.a.dumont - 2012-07-25 16:48

      Yes cat food, a car loan and the comments a colleague posted on a public forum... can see the media crying because they are losing a prime source... we obviously are not reading the same articles??

      rontheogre - 2012-07-25 18:31

      Ernest, I am also stunned how emails about dog food and the SPCA brought the NPA in disrepute. Must be code they were speaking.

      press.enter.12 - 2012-07-25 18:47

      Maybe she was speaking about the big dog who only wants to eat . . . .

      ganon.nhubunga - 2012-07-26 08:01

      True, how they defend each other, a professional white person can do no wrong, I thought people will wait for the outcome of this case and comment. The lady prosecutor should just face the music. I still remember that white lady who was sentenced to death in Botswana because she was involve in murder love triangle and how the white community asked Mzansi to interven, but here at home the very same people were calling for death sentence to be reinstated. Let us be honest, death sentence can only be for black people. So the evidence here is clear, they are charge her for case not related to Mdhluli saga but different one, why can't we wait for the courts to complete its case and verdict, then we can be sure that she did not do anything wrong. Die kuikens kom huis toe om te gebraai!!!Kwaakwaa!! Black or white, everybody is corrupt in their own rights. It is fact that we have at present two justice systems, one for blacks and one for whites, it is fact, youy can dispute that until you are blue or very very white in the face I do not care!!!

  • kala.bafazi - 2012-07-25 16:08

    "If the general public loses their confidence in the criminal justice system, we've got a problem." I guess we have a problem then.

      blignault.michaele - 2012-07-25 16:19

      We have a problem with all government systems, as tax payers, so what's new!

      press.enter.12 - 2012-07-25 17:35

      The NPA is so used to argueing that files have disappeared - so they are automatically using it in this case . . . . .

      bernard.ingram - 2012-07-25 17:44

      Spot on!

  • alastair.grant.98 - 2012-07-25 16:10

    The first step to running a clean administration is to CELEBRATE whistleblowers, not prosecute them. If your rules don't allow this, change your rules.

  • lerato.motshana - 2012-07-25 16:12

    I wonder what is pushing the NPA to be so passionate about this case, all this time and years they were so quiet until she chaired the arms deal case, you pissed alot of people in high positions (ANC) Breytenbach but i respect you for trying to do your job the right way, wish you the best in this case, if you know you did nothing wrong keep your head high and laugh at those who are made fools knowingly. I personally think you are basically hanged because you stood your grounds during the arms deal which i am still interested and waiting to hear what happened. Yah neh, South Africa. I am not anti ANC people, i just want to see the truth and from where i am standing or rather sitting, ANC or the rulling party which are the learders of this country is not giving us the whole truth hence the introduction of the info bill. I stand to be corrected , not crucified.

      tumisang.kolobe - 2012-07-25 16:22

      All this time and years they were so quiet until she chaired the arms deal case?? Lerato stop exposing your stupidity on the public platform, there is a difference between prosecuting and chairing…. Even in the good olden days there were black people who believed that apartheid was good and sympathized with whites, I am not surprised Lerato of your continued support for whites....

      lerato.motshana - 2012-07-25 16:30

      God help me as i try so hard not to respond to Tumisang insults. Read my last sentence, process it and stop being you, for ones just be someone else cos you is not really working for you. Love you too Tumisang.

      Jymiro - 2012-07-25 16:45

      Leeato like or not like the ANC is a non issue to me, so you don't need to put that statement if ou want to make a point of fact. The heatring is continuing and luckily certain members of th mesia have been allowed to attend. Your defence for is that she is persecuted because chairing and arms deal and her defence is that she was proscuting Mdluli and the NPA is producing evidence of her shananingan, the ICT and Kumba prosecution, how she destroy evidence, leaking information to the media etc. I suggest you concerntrate at following this hearing then you can have a balance judgement. Unless your intention is anti ANC, then your judgement will be clouded as you demonstrated here.

      mundu.olewega - 2012-07-25 16:53

      Sounds like a witch hunt too me.

      press.enter.12 - 2012-07-25 17:41

      Right Tumisang I get you - whites must leave now - they have no rights around here, and if you were in power you will kill the lot of them - right ?

      lerato.motshana - 2012-07-26 09:08

      I've learnt not to take anything Tumisang says to heart, unless he is objective and realistic, your problem is the fact that i dont blame white people for the idiocity and mismanagement of this country, i blame who ever is in charge of whatever wrong happened, whether black, white, indian an everyone else, i want a fair SA that looks out for everyone, not a selfish and narrow minded one that you are looking for, take it as if i always support white people, i dont give a crap, i support the truth and right now the learders of this country are not leading truthfully and i want the truth in any colour, crucify me for that and i will gladly take whatever insult you throw my way.

  • crazyjourno - 2012-07-25 16:14

    Nail those bastards!!! No one is above the lawe! Corrupt to the core I say!

  • ian.flack2 - 2012-07-25 16:28

    "If the general public loses their confidence in the criminal justice system, we've got a problem."...............You're a little bit too late mate!!!!!

  • david.lebethe - 2012-07-25 16:38

    She must be made to walk the plank. She initially wanted to deflect the attention to Mdluli case before the Labour Court refused to have anything to do with it. It had to take the intuation of the learned judge to blow her alibi otherwise the image of the NPA would have been compromised. Now her defence wishes to make simple of deleted evidence from her official laptop when she it was not open to her to do so.

      andre.marx - 2012-07-25 16:42

      @David, I suspect you are going to look pretty silly when she has a chance to testify and bring witnesses. At the moment it appears from reports that the npa witness is not doing very well.

      Jymiro - 2012-07-25 16:54

      Its early days Andre. Facts are information has been deleted from her laptop, she didn't handover laptop at the time agreed, hence having time to deletee (the is actually a pending criminal case to this effect). She communicated with media regarding NPA matters. ICT evidence of her communication with Seshin. Wait don't be exited.

      madise.paul - 2012-07-25 17:31

      She must go, she a disgrace to the house!

      Erna - 2012-07-25 18:15

      Together with the numerous corrupt anc officials, many of whom have been found guilty but conveniently redeployed to make a mess of another department.

  • ciaran.bates.3 - 2012-07-25 16:51

    Where did they find these witnesses? They spoke about dog food and the SPCA. Now thats going to hurt state security. National emergency must be declared!

  • lerato.kay.3 - 2012-07-25 16:52

    This woman is not half as wise as she portrays how can she leave incriminating evidence like this. She must answer to the case of mishandling cases allocated to her first and related charges before she bleats about the conspiracy against her, otherwise its just a smoke screen

      Jymiro - 2012-07-25 16:57

      Well said lerato

      Erna - 2012-07-25 17:16

      What incriminating evidence? Those emails re SPCA and dog food? So far they have nothing.

  • pur.pleibus - 2012-07-25 16:55

    Wasserman, acting senior manager of the NPA's integrity management unit, said "If the general public loses their confidence in the criminal justice system, we've got a problem." Guess what Mr Wasserman? You've got a problem.

  • Hermann - 2012-07-25 16:56

    "He read out various e-mails between Carstens and Breytenbach about dog food, the SPCA and the Facebook status of NPA spokesperson Mthunzi Mhaga." Please delete tis news item from you PC it is high treason to discuss dog food, the SPCA and Facebook. Like the old singles and LPs Waasermann is echiong the Master's Voice.

  • Busani - 2012-07-25 16:57

    another liar on the witness stand.... nothing new.

  • Nukki - 2012-07-25 17:09

    My take on this is, Glynnis was part of the team who put a spanner in the wheel for Zumas son to become a billionar, in the Sishen case!

      madise.paul - 2012-07-25 17:19

      I beg to differ, she's law unto herself and deserve whatever comes her way.

  • madise.paul - 2012-07-25 17:16

    SUPERIORITY has taken her down....she can go and be like BREYTENBACH BEACH ATTORNEYS PTY(LTD)!

      richard.zanner - 2012-07-25 17:44

      @ Madise you do not know her or the facts of the case but you are already judging her.

  • richard.zanner - 2012-07-25 17:39

    I think Glynnis will get the boot at this hearing and not because she deserves it but that is just the way things are being done. I worked with Glynnis about 20 years ago and she is extremely competent and ethical. We truly need people like her in the system but alas she stood on the wrong toes. She will not get justice in this hearing and I just hope that the Labour Court sees is differently as this is exactely where it will end up.

      osama.pascal - 2012-07-25 19:21

      Really! Lol! Mighty glorified her. Hail Bretenbach!

  • bernard.ingram - 2012-07-25 17:43

    "During the analysis of the e-mails we stumbled upon e-mails...". Wow! When I was in the fruit store I stumbled upon fruit..." Intelligent much? No!

      madise.paul - 2012-07-25 17:53

      What this has to do with intellect!

  • Erna - 2012-07-25 18:05

    If Breytenbach is really as clever as everyone seems to think, she would definitely know that deleting files from a computer is not enough, particularly if there is a NPA server involved! She wouldn't take that chance (I think).

      osama.pascal - 2012-07-25 19:26

      People like her always make that kind of mistakes. She was too comfortable and never thought a day like this will ever come

  • malusi.shumane.7 - 2012-07-25 18:23

    The image of the NPA was ruined the day our President jumped the bridge instead of crossing it. Guys, we must call a spade a spade! Dictatorship starts by raping the justice system

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-07-25 19:08

    If the media had free access to the goings on at the NPA,like they should, there never could have been a "leak".

  • osama.pascal - 2012-07-25 19:12

    It does not come as a suprise that there is allegation of this nature against people like her. It has been long overdue and one wonders how media get the inside infor. And so she is now alleged to be a snitch.

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