Witness hiding something - Jub Jub lawyer

2011-05-23 13:07

Johannesburg - A metro officer testifying in the murder trial of Molema Jub Jub Maarohanye and Themba Tshabalala was hiding something, defence lawyer Ike Motloung told the Protea Magistrate's Court on Monday.

"You [are] playing that you know nothing, which shows you [are] up to something," he said to Constable Velemina Mojela.

Maarohanya and Tshabalala face charges of murder, attempted murder and driving under the influence of drugs and alcohol.

They were allegedly drag-racing when one of their Mini Coopers ploughed into a group of schoolchildren on Mdlalose Drive in Protea North on March 8 last year.

Four children died in the accident and two others suffered severe injuries, including brain damage.

Drug tests

Mojela testified that she knew nothing about the accident and that drug tests on both of the men were done in 15 minutes.

"A urine sample is not taken in split seconds," Motloung said during cross-examination.

Mojela testified that she arrived at work at 18:55 and that drug and alcohol tests on Maarohanye and Tshabalala were completed by 18:15.

Mojela had brought the log book from the day of the accident to court with her.

She said she did not check the time when she started the drug and alcohol tests, but did record the time they were completed.

She explained to the court how drug and alcohol tests were done and what apparatus was used.

The evidence was to prove that the two men had tested positive for drugs and alcohol.

Earlier in the day, Motloung accused Mojela of contradicting herself.

  • Audacious - 2011-05-23 13:14

    Mojela testified that she arrived at work at 18:55 and that drug and alcohol tests on Maarohanye and Tshabalala were completed by 18:15. The reporting is as bad as the court case

      Ivym - 2011-05-23 13:16

      Africa time

      scooter moepeng - 2011-05-23 13:32

      i agree 100% with you Audacious!!!

      Ichabod - 2011-05-23 13:32

      Someone else abviously did the drug test before she arrived.

      saabnut - 2011-05-23 13:35

      Watch, SA- here comes the first loophole to shoot holes in the case. It is deplorable that this type of thing is allowed. How much more proof do they need regarding the identity of the drivers, let alone thir state of sobriety???

      Together - 2011-05-23 13:49

      Seeing as SA youths were killed in this case, where is the ANCYL? They should be parading around that courthouse demanding justice on behalf of the young South Africans who were killed. Where are they?

      hindu_k - 2011-05-23 13:55

      @together - they arent there cause it wasnt a white guy that did it....

      Jacques Jones - 2011-05-23 13:59

      @together because this does not further their agenda

      JudgeDread - 2011-05-23 16:25

      Nowhere did it state that she she conducted the tests. Its quite possible that she arrived at 18:55 after the tests had been completed at 18:15 as per the logbook

      tryanything - 2011-05-23 16:27

      Or their profile

  • Slapper - 2011-05-23 13:23

    Its what you get when you have incompetents in all aspects of Law and Justice. Its what we get from the Clowns that rule us.

      Refilwemu - 2011-05-23 13:48

      they will rule you until you die, get used to it.

      GinSA1 - 2011-05-23 13:51

      Nobody rules us. They govern a country, or are supposed to. As for you Refilwemu, me thinks not? As the uneducated become more and more frustrated, so the voting for the corrupt and inefficient will wane.

      WCD - 2011-05-23 14:13

      refilwemu - they will rule you

      Slapper - 2011-05-23 14:47

      I say Rule in the loosest terms, as I agree that these guys could not rule paper. And to Refilmytank, go back to the Bowser you moron

      tryanything - 2011-05-23 16:32

      Its being fixed. Watch them walk. like Jackie Glen Cheryl Shabir Jacob Radovan Lolly Anybody got more names?

      CygnusX1 - 2011-05-23 20:09

      @Refilwemu, I have no doubt that you would be the first to claim that you live in a democracy, if so, then consider the following. In a Monarchy people a ruled over (Swaziland), in a democracy people are governed over! It's been like that since both systems were developed, many, many years ago. So, nobody "rules" over us in South Africa.

  • zistros - 2011-05-23 13:29

    don't know why this case is taking soo long... they ran over children while speeding, children dead, now lock them up and throw away the keys..

      saabnut - 2011-05-23 13:35

      My sentiment exactly!

      Jacques Jones - 2011-05-23 13:59

      could not agree more

  • Uneducated - 2011-05-23 13:30

    Who is contradicting !!!!! The reporter or the police .Can't you write a proper article??? Seems like News24 are employing last year's matric candidates from Limpopo.

      saabnut - 2011-05-23 13:36

      Or Malema's woodwork mentor...

      regularguy - 2011-05-23 13:36

      maybe Malema offered a few of his friends for jobs as News 24?? Thats why we get bad reporting like this !! I mean, if you get a f for woodwork, what would the result be for english grammer lmao !!! Now seriously. Get this case over and done with. Again, some high profile person and now they are looking at a technicality to get this case out of court They were morons, lock them up . thats it !!!!

      Together - 2011-05-23 13:49

      these reports are exactly what is coming out of the trial and the material is captured by SAPA court reporters. If it sounds crazy, then ask yourself what is happening in SA courts. And, seeing as SA youths were killed in this case, where is the ANCYL? They should be parading around that courthouse demanding justice on behalf of the young South Africans who were killed. Where are they?

      GinSA1 - 2011-05-23 13:53


  • LUFC - 2011-05-23 13:41

    FFS what could the witness be hiding? A key to another dimension where he didnt murder anyone?

  • marguerite - 2011-05-23 13:45

    No wonder people in SA are so aggressive and despondent. No wonder I feel like I wanna f*ck someone up today!!

      Refilwemu - 2011-05-23 13:50

      you need help or u should stop taking to much tik

      Jacques Jones - 2011-05-23 14:02

      @refilwemu the point is these jokers are guilty of killing innocent youths while speeding. even if they weren't on drugs or pissed they are guilty.

  • GinSA1 - 2011-05-23 13:50

    'Mojela testified that she arrived at work at 18:55 and that drug and alcohol tests on Maarohanye and Tshabalala were completed by 18:15.' - Really???????????????????????? Now was that what she said or is that how News24 are reporting it?????

      Ke maketse - 2011-05-23 14:03

      Did she conduct or someone else did? This artlicle is not very clear

      JudgeDread - 2011-05-23 16:20

      Nowhere did it state that she conducted the tests. She could have arrived at 18:55 after the tests had been completed at 18:15 as per the logbook.

  • hindu_k - 2011-05-23 13:52

    Well of course his up to something, his waiting for his bribe! DUH! Jeez people.

  • Mathanga - 2011-05-23 13:54

    Realy, what further evidence is still required here?? Doesnt the judge and the lawyerz know who are the car owners? Is it not clear that these cars caused accidence and school kids died and others injured? So what else does the court want, or its just waste of time and money? I wont be suprised if these guys are found not guilty!!!

      Claire - 2011-05-23 14:23

      you have hit the nail on the head... I can definately see no justice for these kids... After all Jub Jub is a high profile guy and you know how we work her in South Africa. If it was a regular person from the street they would have lock them up and thrown away the key...

      tryanything - 2011-05-23 16:35

      They managed to get the Dewani killer in the can very quickly and he only killed one person.

  • hindu_k - 2011-05-23 13:54

    @together - they arent there cause it wasnt a white guy that did it....

  • Sue - 2011-05-23 13:56

    This is so bloody frustrating. It'swhen stuff like this happens that that one wishes that it wasdealt with by "Kankaroo Court". Then money or connections means sweet nothing, if you are found guilty you are sentenced straight-away

  • numero_uno - 2011-05-23 14:07

    The thing with criminal law is that it operates on the presumption of innocence until proven guilty. These cops might be caught out because of their incompetence as a result of the way the law works even though i would like to thing these guys are guilty. However, what is not in doubt is that these guys did cause the death of these children for that they should be punished.

  • Claire - 2011-05-23 14:13

    I take it that Jub Jub and his sidekick will be walking free soon... nevermind the parents who lost their kids... its a damned shame what people will get away with these days

  • K_za - 2011-05-23 14:19

    I can't believe these things are trying to get away with murdering and maiming children!!! The same people who looked up to them. Sick!!!

  • dask@k - 2011-05-23 14:20

    absolute Hyrax excrement

  • stofsuier - 2011-05-23 14:36

    the fact of the matter is there are people dead and buried and the lawyers are wasting tax payers money by using atalling tactics the people want justice and they want it now !!!!!

  • PikeLee - 2011-05-23 14:42

    I don't see why they are focusing on the alcohol aspect. Who cares if they were drunk or not. Drunk or not drunk, they murdered innocent children - 2011-05-23 14:51

      Take them out to the village square and hang them from gallows as an example to others like them (brainless, selfish, arrogant idiots)that that is the punishment for being brainless, selfish, arrogant and idiotic.

      tryanything - 2011-05-23 16:39

      They are not guilty of murder. They will be found not guilty. They are almost certainly guilty of culpable homicide. This is why they have been charged with murder so they can be acquitted..

  • enstin - 2011-05-23 14:42

    word..someone is up to no good... wrong is wrong no matter who does it..

  • Penelope Kokwana - 2011-05-23 16:01

    People let's not loose the point here, this is not a political matter. The only people who needs to hang for this are the two culprits who murdered innocent children & r showing no remorse. Even if the courts find them guilty it wont b enough, they need to plead for forgiveness & show some remorse. Damn they KILLED & KILLED & left others deformed. This is not a political issue but a national problem these celebrities get away with murder.

      CygnusX1 - 2011-05-23 20:16

      Damn right you are Penelope, and they get away with the assitance of lawyers. There lies the problem. The Judge should just stop this charade, forget about the "tests" and tell the defendants and lawyers that the court will now deal with the fact that 2 motor cars , whilst speeding, and driven by the 2 defendants, lost control and killed and injured innocent children. Those are the facts simple and straightforward, pissed, drugged up or not!!!

  • ianeen - 2011-05-23 17:49

    It looks like no one trusts the courts any more, that what they have done to the justice system. maybe we should use the french system guilty until proven innocent, then maybe so many would not escape the law. Your responsiblity to man kind starts when you take the drink or substance and not when you cause problems.

  • mandlankos thutani - 2011-05-24 11:03

    Ike Motloung i just wonder if it was your kids who were killed with jub jub will you be talking all this crap money is good but not to extend that a murderer mus walk free so that you can be rich i hope if jub jub get out of the hooks he must race again and kill your kids then we will see how you will feel arent you a parent?

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