Wrong to call for Tutu resignation: Rabbi

2011-01-14 14:16

Cape Town - It is wrong to call for the resignation of Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu, a patron of the Holocaust Centre, Chief Rabbi Warren Goldstein said on Friday.

"In deference to Archbishop Tutu's widely-recognised leadership role in the struggle against apartheid and to his revered position in South Africa, it would be an act of disrespect to remove him as a patron," Goldstein said.

"The Holocaust Centre, of which I am also a patron, is a vitally important institution in our country.

"The centre honours the memory of the six million Jewish martyrs, and also educates thousands of South Africans in the vital lessons of the Holocaust, lessons of the horrific consequences of hatred and racism."

The online petition to remove the Nobel laureate as patron of the centre was initiated by the vice-chairperson of the South African Zionist Federation David Hersch, who decried Tutu's criticism of Israeli policy.

According to the petition, Tutu's call for the Cape Town Opera Company not to perform in Israel, and for academic institutions to cut ties with those in Israel, were "only the most recent examples of Archbishop Tutu's anti-Israeli behaviour".

It went on to describe his support for sanctions against Israel as "morally repugnant".

A counter petition in support of Tutu, launched by Open Shuhada Street, an activist organisation campaigning for rights in Israel and the Palestinian territories, was launched soon after.

The petition, which counts about 1 600 signatures including former chief justice Arthur Chaskalson, human rights lawyer Joel Joffe and singer Annie Lennox, states that calls for Tutu to be removed as patron of the Holocaust centres in Cape Town and Johannesburg are "totally unacceptable".

It said Tutu was "a most appropriate patron" of the Holocaust centres.

The petition also defended Tutu's call to the opera company as "based on his firm belief in human rights and equality".

It recalled that on a visit to the Cape Town Holocaust Centre last December, Tutu said: "Visiting the Holocaust Centre was very painful, but it was an important reminder of past injustice. Whether it is the struggle against Nazi genocide or against apartheid, it is important for us to remember the history of oppression."

Goldstein said the Holocaust centre preaches and teaches sensitivity and commitment to human rights, tolerance and the dignity of all people, irrespective of race, colour or creed.

"For this holy and vital work to be disrupted by the divisive politics of the Middle East would be a real tragedy," he said.

The correct approach "to the archbishop's unfair criticisms of Israel" would not be through protest action or petitions, but rather to engage with him "in a dignified and respectful manner" on the substance of the real issues "from a rational, intellectual and historical point of view".

  • emzozo.. - 2011-01-14 14:23

    the guy is old man!!!! he must just ... to the nearest lake n ..... for the past 4 years I never heard him saying anything that makes senseso far.....

      BigD - 2011-01-14 15:13

      @bonesagain. Commented like a real DOOS. Totu should keep quiet on subjects he has no clue on.

      mbossenger - 2011-01-14 15:17

      And speaking of not making sense...

      John - 2011-11-05 23:16

      Tutu, the bishop of the ANC Machine Gunners. ANC tried to kill off 5 million south africans with aids pretending that Virodene ( = Benzene ) is a medication. Attempted Genocide. ANC refused proper medication to 5 million south africans with aids. Genocide. ANC has killed 800 000 South African babies by Abortion. Tutu, the bishop of the ANC Genociders.

  • James - 2011-01-14 14:26

    blah blah blah

  • briansmith702 - 2011-01-14 14:46

    If I were Tutu I would resign in disgust at the Jewish behaviour. It clearly is not a worthwhile institution to be supporting. Israel as much as it has a right its behaviour is disgusting towards the Palestinians, not that they are without blame. However their treatment of the Palestinians does not befit a supposedly civilised society.

      bonesagain - 2011-01-14 15:01

      I totally agree with you. But I think he is to much of a good person to go that route. He actually believes in a perfect world, and if everyone did that, it might just become a reality.

  • Carolyn - 2011-01-14 14:50

    Should have resigned years ago, when he was still active with the ANC placeing Bombs in Johannesburg and other areas, he is responsible for many deaths. Should have spent some time on Robben Island. How ever he became a bishop ony God knows, he has never done much good except talk and if you remove my post at lease I know that you read it first.

      James - 2011-01-14 15:04

      Its' called gaining freedom dear. America bombs for 'peace', as does tutu! haha

      The Patriot - 2011-01-14 16:26

      planted bombs? Have you any idea what you are talking about?

      Ms Athlone - 2011-01-14 17:25

      Carolyn how interesting to read your drivel. Such unabashed rubbish spewed forth onto the masses. I'd be embarrassed to post if I was as ignorant and as uneducated as you clearly are. Shame!

      Jakkals - 2011-01-14 20:40

      Vir elke Israeli soldaat wat die lafaarde van Palistyne doodmaak maak Israel 100 dood. Kyk hoe lyk Israel. Hulle het hulle woestyn land in 'n oase omskep. Kyk hoe lewe die Palistyne! Vernietig als en breek als af. kan ook niks self doen en opbou nie, net moor en teel en agter vrouens en kinders skuil. Nou wil hulle Israel soos parasiete ook vernietig.

      Khoisan - 2011-01-14 22:32

      Carolyn. So, you got your wish. You escaped the intellectual police and went to complain to the Censor Board. That's the same thing you did to Judge Goldstone. In 1948, Benjamin "Bibi" Netanyahu lead a pack of terrorists and attack the St.Georges hotel, which housed the British Protectorate and three years ago, happily attended a function to celebrate its 50th anniversary. Keep on having wet dreams about paradise.

  • alenr3 - 2011-01-14 15:03

    As much as Archbishop Desmond Tutu has criticized Israel's policies he has equally criticized Palestinian attacks on Israeli civilians and this is well documented. He is inspired by humanitarianism not anti-semitism.

      The Patriot - 2011-01-14 16:36

      Not to forget being quite outspoken against the ANC. This man is a national icon. didnt like him in the 70's but he proved me wrong.

  • alenr3 - 2011-01-14 15:07

    As much as Archbishop Desmond Tutu has criticized Israel's policies he has equally criticized Palestinian attacks on Israeli civilians and this is well documented. He is inspired by humanitarianism not anti-semitism.

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-01-14 15:28

    TUTU ...Is a man who stands up for human rights he has no shame in criticising all, ANC included. @emzozo why ? because he now speaks up against the ruling party who are now just as guilty of abuse of the human rights. Viva ARCH !!!!

      unclebigstick - 2011-01-14 15:42

      Tutu is the MAN!

  • Pedro - 2011-01-14 16:42

    He has shown himself to be a great humanitarian. Only an absolute bigot would think that to criticise the country Israel is antisemitic. When the Holocaust happened Israel did not exist. No nation's policies are above criticsm. Those who think so are no better than xenophobes of that era!

  • crash - 2011-01-14 17:03

    peter tong, you obviously have a serious lack of education and lack of historical fact and knowledge. You obviously dislike jewish people, maybe because your mommy and daddy taught you do be like this. Were they as fucking stupid and ignorant as you, or is this all your own doing? You probably have never even interacted with any jewish person, but rather comment without any thought.

  • daschneider123 - 2011-01-14 17:27

    pete tong you really are an idiot. you make us jews and everyone else around you laugh! your ignorance and uneducated comments. you probably have no education and made it no were in your life. its people like you that bring us close together and along us to be strong!

      Dave - 2011-01-14 19:22 are one seriously sick dude, actually no, you aint even human

      Dave - 2011-01-15 06:35

      Thanks for confirmning my sick dude

  • james4usa - 2011-01-14 20:09

    Search Real Zionist News

  • AquaticApe - 2011-01-14 20:23

    Where is Desmond Tutu when my people in Sudan call out for freedom? by Simon Deng Late last month, I went to hear Bishop Desmond Tutu speak at Boston's Old South Church at a conference on "Israel Apartheid." Tutu is a well respected man of God. He brought reconciliation between blacks and whites in South Africa. That he would lead a conference that damns the Jewish state is very disturbing to me. The State of Israel is not an apartheid state. I know because I write this from Jerusalem where I have seen Arab mothers peacefully strolling with their families -- even though I also drove on Israeli roads protected by walls and fences from Arab bullets and stones. I know Arabs go to Israeli schools, and get the best medical care in the world. I know they vote and have elected representatives to the Israeli Parliament. I see street signs in Arabic, an official language here. None of this was true for blacks under Apartheid in Tutu's South Africa. I also know countries that do deserve the apartheid label: My country, Sudan, is on the top of the list, but so are Iran, Saudi Arabia and Egypt. What has happened to my people in Sudan is a thousand times worse than Apartheid in South Africa. And no matter how the Palestinians suffer, they suffer nothing compared to my people. Nothing. And most of the suffering is the fault of their leaders. Bishop Tutu, I see black Jews walking down the street here in Jerusalem. Black like us, free and proud. Tutu said Israeli checkpoints are a nightmare. But checkpoints are there because Palestinians are sent into Israel to blow up and kill innocent women and children. Tutu wants checkpoints removed. Do you not have doors in your home, Bishop? Does that make your house an apartheid house? If someone, Heaven forbid, tried to enter with a bomb, we would want you to have security people "humiliating" your guests with searches, and we would not call you racist for doing so. We all go through checkpoints at every airport. Are the airlines being racist? No. Yes, the Palestinians are inconvenienced at checkpoints. But why, Bishop Tutu, do you care more about that inconvenience than about Jewish lives? Bishop, when you used to dance for Mandela's freedom, we Africans -- all over Africa -- joined in. Our support was key in your freedom. But when children in Burundi and Kinshasa, all the way to Liberia and Sierra Leone, and in particular in Sudan, cried and called for rescue, you heard but chose to be silent. Today, black children are enslaved in Sudan, the last place in the continent of Africa where humans are owned by other humans -- I was part of the movement to stop slavery in Mauritania, which just now abolished the practice. But you were not with us, Bishop Tutu. So where is Desmond Tutu when my people call out for freedom? Slaughter and genocide and slavery are lashing Africans right now. Where are you for Sudan, Bishop Tutu? You are busy attacking the Jewish state. Why?

      v3 - 2011-01-14 21:16

      Don't bring facts into it, you'll only confuse issues.

      Fikile - 2011-01-18 16:46

      I am sure the honourable Bishop would make the same call if the Cape Town Opera Company were to perform in Sudan. Alas, they(the CTOC) are racist and won't perform for black people let alone in the middle of Africa as they feel that black are not going to appreciate, maybe if they we a rap group.

      KnysnaSha - 2011-07-25 17:11

      Hate to disappoint you but a lot more Palestinians have been killed by Israeli's than the other way around. The figures from 29th of September 2000 till 3rd June 20011 is 1084 Israeli's to 6430 Palestinians.124 Israeli children to 1463 Palestinian children. So who is really do most of the killing here? Have a look at the real facts and figures and you will see that Israel is hardly getting persecuted but doing the persecuting.

  • Joe - 2011-01-15 01:51

    If the jews believed in Jesus, I'd have said 'JESUS WEPT'! The irony! This jew is supporting tutu who is supporting the holocaust playing out in South Africa against whites as we speak! Look, I've liked the Jews, and the Israeli's up to now, but I must admit, this here Jew and his hypocrisy is starting to change my mind...

  • Ludfie - 2011-01-15 02:45

    Everyone is crying about Jewish genocide, but what about Iraqi's, Palestinians & all indigenous people who suffer from the hands of imperialists and yet they all want to slap the people who point at their stereotype views and policies. The world has become a place where imperialists and colonialists as well as western supremacy who still wants to treat people from not european back grounds as second or third grade citizens. All over the world people immigrated over tens, hundreds/thousands of years ago and today the kids of those people want to deny other people that right. They even say to born citizens of that specific country; "Go back where you come from". Sadly both of the people concerned were born in the same country, unfortunately the one is european and the other not. Desmond Tutu is a leader who suffered and fought for political freedom and South Africans should recognised him for that - even the Jews in South Africa. Stop creating division to a polulation thats been described as the Rainbow Nation. If the Jews have a problem with the truth than they should re-evaluate their behaviour towards the Palestinians and recognise them as citizens of the middle East.

      KnysnaSha - 2011-07-25 17:12

      Amen to that Ludfie

  • shandycop - 2011-01-15 02:51

    Who cares what these foreign hacks say, Tutu is the man and is in fact the 'moral conscience' of SA, in our decaying society. They clearly have no understanding of what Tutu stands 4 in SA. They can go get stuffd.

  • Hermi - 2011-11-05 23:30

    I object to making generalizations and using the Holocaust as just an example of oppression......every event in history is just "trow" it in as an example is an insult to those who suffered in the Holocaust.....I am the last person who can talk about this as I am not even Jewish but I have a very strong conviction and shall never keep quiet, it has been like that forever I can remember about this.....Mr Tutu is obviously enjoying his leverage he has been enjoying politically for many years now...I respect him as a Nobel Prize laureate but he is now going rediculously off the beaten track, which is, by the way how one can gain popularity by being controversial...nothing wrong with being controversial, I am like that, but I think he is being just in love with his own voice and the reaction he causes...entertaining but with no substance.....

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