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Youth want strong action against miners

2012-10-05 13:04

Johannesburg - At least 54% of young people think police should take stronger action against strikers, according to a survey released on Friday.

"Overall, 54% of young South Africans of all races think police should be taking stronger action against strikers; 41% were against it."
Five percent were unable to decide.

Market research company Pondering Panda surveyed 3 061 people between the ages of 15 and 34 through Mxit earlier this week.
There were also significant regional variations, in line with the racial differences.

Respondents in the Western Cape were the most likely to call for stronger police action, with 61% in favour. The Eastern Cape had the highest proportion of respondents who were against the idea at 50%, compared to 43% who thought they should.

More than 84% of young whites favoured stronger police action with only half of young blacks feeling the same way.

The survey also found that almost two thirds of Coloured people and Indians were in favour of stronger police action against strikers.
Apart from race, there were no significant differences in attitude related to gender or age.

Comments
  • natalie.naude.7 - 2012-10-05 13:17

    They should definately take stronger action against these violent people cause they hurt innocent people too with their barbaric actions.

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-10-05 13:46

      Agreed!

  • ndyeboreginaldmazawule - 2012-10-05 13:18

    What does the youth want for the youth?

      mattcredible - 2012-10-05 13:38

      A country we can all actually grow old in...

      maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-10-05 15:45

      Remember MMM (motor mouth malema) sparked this off by insisting the miners get the 12 half % increase. Now its unstoppable. They all want 12+% the country is now taking tremendous strain... is he proud of himself, why not tackle him instead of the truck drivers, miners etc.

  • julius.hond - 2012-10-05 13:18

    blah blah

  • MasterG.AbramLegodi - 2012-10-05 13:29

    Why would you conduct a study of anysort on mxit and make conclusion.the respodent do they understand anything about mining?

      kala.bafazi - 2012-10-05 13:34

      It's not a study, it's a poll. Quite different actually.

      nosiphom.mazibuko - 2012-10-05 13:48

      Great one Kalabafazi, hahahahahahaha

      michael.molemahang - 2012-10-05 13:58

      what about those who protest for service delivery ? whom are not taxpayers, but they demand better service.? miners are taxpayers, they work hard underground and put their lives at risk for the sake of this country...please stop making such comments (nonsens)

      gerald.nchabeleng - 2012-10-05 14:30

      @ kala.bafazi Actually dear sir, a poll is a form of study, one that tries to define general sentiment in a given population group. Problem with this polls is they end up elucidating someone's opinion.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-05 14:40

      They put their lives at risk for what they can get out of it actually. Do you think they care two hoots about the country? Please don't build miners up to be Gods now. Recent strikes reveal only one thing: How much can I suck out of these people, and how much damage can I cause along the way.

  • patricia.dewet.92 - 2012-10-05 13:38

    Police are keeping an eye, what are they still doing with sticks and knopkieries. Disarm them, they are all cowards.

      andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-05 13:52

      agreed and if they are not willing to do that then they must face the police in the same way....ARMED no questions asked!

  • andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-05 13:50

    if that is the case then do something about it, oh i forgot our government is corrupt so F@CK all will be done! there are people in leadership positions that should never be there, they only got there cause they used the race card and then used it for thier own benifits! unfortunatly the ANC supports are still stupid enough to vote for them without realising that they are gonna get nothing in return and they are just helping the corruption if anything! it is going to come to a point where people will have to take action into their own hands and when that day come i will gladly blow a person's face off if they come and demand for what i have worked for! im not scared and that is the attitude i have developed because of our government!

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-10-05 13:51

    Taking action against the mine workers striking is like acting against the symptoms of the disease,not the root.The root is poverty,sub human living conditions,desperation,and exploitation.This kind of conditions wud bring out the worst in anyone.

  • Dinesh - 2012-10-05 13:52

    Where there is injustice, there cannot be peace. Victory to the workers. No peace until equal opportunites for all.

      andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-05 13:55

      you also one of those lazy people not willing to work for what you earn, go get a education and realise that nothing comes easy! you need to realize the harder you work the better you do, for our country to get better you have to work so we can get to the point where living will be better for everyone, think about that!

  • Iqhawe_eliqotho - 2012-10-05 13:54

    The general public really has missed the truth of the working class individuals' plight. The financial situation outcry is only a fraction of the burdens they must bear at their jobs, daily. Increasing their income is the only way they feel their other forms of mistreatment become bearable because at least enough for that second loaf of bread makes it home. Remember the only seemingly logical and understandable view point reaching us with greatest efficiency is that of the police and the mine owners. The representative of the other unfortunately is not so eloquent or publicly welcome due to his previous media appearances. Their messages neither reach us intact nor unadulterated by subjective views of the face of their complaints. The mining situation is more complex than it seems and does not begin or end in the mining sector.

      yolanda.r.haripersad - 2012-10-05 14:34

      Striking and demanding is not the solution! financial literacy and proper education is the only answer to lifting the plight of the working class. How can the Indians who arrived in SA a mere 152 years with nothing but their clothes on their backs achieve so much?? The indentured realized that the only way for the children to prosper was education. Within 30 years of being in South Africa, the Indians had built over 300 schools for their children. They didn't demand!!! The attitude of entitlement that majority of South Africa has, is destroying our beautiful country.

      andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-05 14:37

      Yolanda i have alot of respect for what you have just said and because of that i will gladly follow and support you!

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-10-05 15:36

      Dead right Yolanda. Very well put and 100% true.

  • don.mug.3 - 2012-10-05 13:56

    Unions must take charge,they deduct moneys to articulate workers demands.

      nrgx.nrg - 2012-10-05 14:02

      aar-tii-cuu---haibo, i do not know these things

      butch.poulter - 2012-10-05 14:56

      Yolandi for president. It's basic economics, something Africa doesnt seem to understand.

  • michael.molemahang - 2012-10-05 13:56

    what about those who protest for service delivery ? whom are not taxpayers, but they demand better service.? miners are taxpayers, they work hard underground and put their lives at risk for the sake of this country...please stop making such comments (nonsens)

  • renier.lubbe.7 - 2012-10-05 13:56

    Give the jobs of the strikers to the unemployed who want to work. These strikes are all illegal therefore the striking workers may be replaced.

  • jan.human - 2012-10-05 14:01

    Sorry.... The "minority" has no say....Bottom line....Pondering Panda, you are wasting your time.

      andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-05 14:05

      so true, maybe they need to realize it takes a minority to make a counrty work correctly and all can still be fare!

  • Busack Papi Maloisane - 2012-10-05 14:07

    i wud say young people's views using social networks r not representing SA youth. the survey shud reach out to young people who dont hav access to social networks. miners r right to strike if dey r agrieved. we r tired of capitalist pocketing money from SA minerals.

      andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-05 14:13

      go get a education, clearly this is your first time on a computer! no wonder you are blinded by how it could work but your greed for money has caught you and with that attitude it will only get worse!

      ameer.albertus.9 - 2012-10-05 14:46

      Busack its obvious you don't have an education and you still believe nationalisation of the mines is the best thing to do, well when your goverment does that the ones with a brain won't be living here to see it, we'll be looking on the tv seeing you thin, hungry with flies on your face because RSA economy resembles that of somalia or zimbabwe

      butch.poulter - 2012-10-05 15:06

      Unfortunately your afican,communist rhetoric dosent cut it anymore. You think we've got unemployment now? WAIT. The downfall of Zimbabwe started just like this, but I suppose you think Zim is still a paradise.

  • Busack Papi Maloisane - 2012-10-05 14:13

    dont lead the nation to war. police wil never manage a war, so, stop leading this nation to war.

      vlammie.pilot - 2012-10-05 14:34

      Do you know any young whites? Really? You are liar. Maybe you wish that whites liked it when blacks die. I dont believe you. I can tell you that blacks like to kill whites in their homes, and they like it!! Come on, you must also smile when you read of white people murdered, be honest now. YOU are the ones wanting a war. I can promise you that come war time, you will learn to fear whites, something you seem to not remember. Ask your daddy what it feels like when white people have had enough. The war you talk about will be started by blacks, and us whites will prevail.

      andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-05 14:34

      you say this but above you say your relatives are there, that says alot!

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-05 14:50

      @Bushack ~ Eish, sorry for your lack of intelligence. Do people always laugh at you whenever you open your mouth?

  • vlammie.pilot - 2012-10-05 14:14

    The only thing the youth should want is to go to school. The youth, especially the majority mental retards must shut up and start working. Oh wait there are no schools. SA is now South Zimbabwe, same patterns, same racism, same black savages, destroying their own future. Soon things will go full on Zim style. Mark my words.

  • david.stopforth.5 - 2012-10-05 14:21

    Well it looks like the strikers dont have any Financial strains No work No pay ,and they look very productive when they strike But i wonder how it looks at work .The Mine Management must lay charges against Vavi for This strikes

  • ameer.albertus.9 - 2012-10-05 14:30

    Why does the news continue to call these \wildcat strikes\? Call them \wild pussy\ strikes and you'll see Jacob Zuma will be there quicker than a hiccup

  • michael.j.anderson.144 - 2012-10-05 14:42

    Fk the youth. The youth are called youth because they know nothing. Youths have neither the experience nor the capacity to understand what's going on. Secondly, their view is based on incomplete information that all those ignoramuses who have posted here. Wake up man, the mine bosses have been raping miners for over a century. If Cyril Ramaphosa's labour brokerage didn't take MORE THAN HALF of miners' salaries, we would not be in this mess. They ALREADY earn R12 500, except Cyril only pays them around R4500

  • tsatsi.golden - 2012-10-05 14:42

    Karl max while setting in london library said tht the workers will raise against capitalist.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-05 14:51

      Eish! Another klevah one..... BTW who is Karl max?

  • john.plaatjies.7 - 2012-10-05 14:51

    Young people asking for More Police action? Do they know the facts? Is this now an attempt to mesmerishes young peoples brains or introducing them to Problem,Reaction,Solution policy?

  • sibusiso.mkoko - 2012-10-05 15:03

    Not another stupid, useless and biased survey conducted on young selfish dumbwits who could only care about the new iphone or fifa 13 game. I dnt know why news24 still publishes such crap. Mayb they r pushing their own agenda. This site will lead to the loss of lives one day....

      mafa.mtembo - 2012-10-05 15:06

      I'm glad that I'm not the only one who finds this survey stupid!!

  • mafa.mtembo - 2012-10-05 15:04

    I bet non of those youth are working on a mine or have a relative that wortks on a mine,they are just blowing hot air.only those related to mine workers would understand why there is a need for a wage upgrade,mine workers have been exploited long enough its time for change

      andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-05 15:10

      ok so tell us this if you know so much, where do you work and why is what you saying justify what our comments are? i work for a company where we hire locomotives(trains for a simple mind like yours) out to all these mines and let me tell you buddy, i go there weekly and see how lazy these guys are, half the time they sit aorund and talk crap all day, you telling me that they must get a raise for that! do yourself a favour and go see for yourself before you pass judgement on what others have to say!

  • Michael - 2012-10-05 15:23

    Only 54%? All of us need stronger action like that in marikana.

  • phahla.matwa - 2012-10-05 15:23

    This country is falling apart. Its a nu Zim

  • phahla.matwa - 2012-10-05 15:30

    CEO takes 1m per month while sum workers take home R4k per month. Its a huge gap. They must stp paying da miners peanuts

      andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-05 15:35

      in a way i agree but at the same time you are wrong, these people need to be educated on how it works and if anything maybe the mine should offer education to those that are willing to learn, dont just come demand and in most cases you gonna find the CEO'S have got papers behind them cause they worked to get to where they are today! i think you need a education also if you gonna use "da" instead of "the", pretty much sums up your education also!

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-10-05 15:35

    This survey must have excluded Julius and his overgrown youth.

      andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-05 15:38

      ha ha, brilliant

  • sarecen.smith - 2012-10-05 15:42

    not only the miners, ut drivers to, what gives them the right to assult and burn other peoples things

  • teleki.maker - 2012-10-05 17:42

    Stats,best way to tell sorry.Im not part of the survey.

  • FinalJustice - 2012-10-05 18:02

    ANC, Zuma, Cusato deliberately instigating chaos to divert attention away from their inability to govern this country. Mining sector obviously a very attractive target in doing so. The previous government also used them as a trump card. When will general public learn that these politicians motives are loud

  • mehluleli.majajini - 2012-10-05 18:15

    It feels bad when we see people roaming the streets with brown envelops looking for a job. Once they get that scarce opportunity, they then think of burning trucks costing millions. The same truck that put bread on their tables. Shoot with live ammunition mannnnn

  • bongile.langa - 2012-10-05 23:30

    By "stronger actions" does that include shoot to kill? because if that's the solution then i am totally against that!!!

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