Zille calls for SANDF to curb protests

2012-11-14 12:12

Cape Town - Western Cape Premier Helen Zille on Wednesday called for SANDF members to be called into the Hex River valley where violent protests were ongoing as police were "stretched thin".

"I have been in contact with the provincial and national police commissioners calling for the SANDF to be deployed. Police stretched thin [sic]," Zille tweeted.

Earlier on Wednesday, residents set tyres alight in a De Doorns informal settlement.

A road coming off a bridge into Stofland was blocked by a heap of burning tyres, sending a thick black plume of smoke into the air.

A few residents milled around the tyres, with an armoured police Nyala parked nearby.

No violence overnight

Farmworkers protested over wages and living conditions in the verdant Hex River valley last week.

Workers, who earned around R70, wanted R150 a day. The N1 highway leading into De Doorns was closed during the violence, in which vineyards were set alight and stones thrown.

The highway was open on Wednesday morning, with trucks passing through with fruit and other cargo. Fruit stalls and roadside shops were closed.

The portion of the national road past De Doorns was marked with black circles, indicating where police had earlier removed burning tyres.

A few police vehicles were in the area.

At Prince Alfred Hamlet in the Overberg, police fired rubber bullets at a group of about 70 farmworkers who pelted police with stones.

Police spokesperson Constable Lybey Swartz could not confirm this, saying no reports had reached the Western Cape media centre.

Western Cape police said no violence occurred overnight in the farming community.

"The situation is... being monitored by police," De Doorns police station spokesperson Lindikhaya Mkhontwana said. He said various arrests were made on Tuesday.

Workers asked to return to farms

Food and Allied Workers' Union president Attwell Nazo and general secretary Katishi Masemola would later address workers in Ceres and De Doorns. They would hold a meeting at the Ceres taxi rank at 11:30 and then proceed to the Stofland stadium in De Doorns at 13:30.

The leaders were expected to tell the crowd about the government's response to their demands.

Agriculture Minister Tina Joemat-Pettersson visited the area on Tuesday, where she said she would pass on their grievances to Labour Minister Mildred Oliphant. She asked workers to return to farms.

Grape harvesters in the Hex River Valley have been protesting for over a week about their wages, demanding R150 a day. Most earn between R69 and R75 a day, with R80 being the highest and only offer from farmers so far.

According to reports on Wednesday, protests were taking place in 16 towns across the province and several workers had been arrested for public violence.

In Piketberg, on the Cape West Coast, workers gathered outside one of the farms in the area amid a heavy police presence.

They were bussed in or arrived on foot from the surrounding farms in the area.

  • raymond.buis.3 - 2012-11-14 12:23

    That will never happen , the cANCer big wigs caused this to discredit the DA .

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-11-14 12:25

      Especially considering the fact that the government sets minimum wage. If these idiots have an issue with how much they are being paid take it up with the aforementioned government.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-14 13:12

      @junebugg, it IS the ANC who set the minimum wages... SO YES you can blame them.

      chris.debeer1 - 2012-11-14 13:29

      That is the Minimum They can pay more and seriously R 80 a day come on

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-14 13:40

      @chris, "they" I assume you include small scale farmers and emerging farmers too right? How do they afford R150 a day?? Think man, think!!

      claudia.markgraaft - 2012-11-14 13:42

      I am not an ANC supporter but please stop putting the DA on a pedestal where they don't belong. Who the hec can even live on R100 a day? Farm workers are the most hard working people and are entitled to so much more than the farmers are giving them. The DA is once again protecting white interest- I wonder what will happen if protest and cape flats gangsterism spills over into more affluent arears. From a proud Bushie

      Thandeka2Luv - 2012-11-14 13:44

      I wonder who Zille think she is? a President maybe...god this woman, few weeks back when president deployed soldiers in rensonse to marikana same woman was making a lot of noise, now it's fime because it is her who asking...! Mrs forever right!!!

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-11-14 13:44

      70 rand a day, with accommodation and food. Free electricity and water too. I am lucky if I can pull 70 a day after I have paid for all those things.

      Vernon.J.Brown - 2012-11-14 13:45

      If they are being bussed in its a manipulated situation. However, if thats all thats paid (R80 a day) that seems unfair. Thats hardly a living wage. Its hard to justify those low wages when the farms profits sustain luxury cars, private schooling and annual overseas trips for the farmers.

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-11-14 13:50

      @raymond - You also get the same free electricity (50Kwh) which is only enough to power one light bulb for a month and water (6Kl), enough to have one shower maybe and the rest needing to be used to survive. What food are these people getting? You just pulled that straight out of your bum bum. How can you defend wages like this? Imagine you were in the same position. Makes me sick!

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-11-14 13:53

      @Shimmer - I was going to give you a thumbs up until you had to throw in "white interests", I am white and I am going to call you a general racist who learned a coin phrase but has no idea what it means or who it applies to. Stop generalising you f#ktard

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-11-14 13:55

      @rob really last time I was on a farm I saw no meters on the workers houses? So that means the farmer pays. What about the accommodation and the food

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-11-14 13:57

      @Pointblank - if you can't afford something then you shouldn't have it. There are many farmers who are able to pay their staff R150 a day, they just aren't the ones driving around in 2 to 3 R600 000 cars and living in a mansion of a house while sending their children to wonderful countries and paying for first class education. Those same farmers paying R60, come to Cape Town and stay in their beautiful holiday houses and then cry because they can't afford a human being a living wage. THINK MAN, THINK!

      claudia.markgraaft - 2012-11-14 13:59

      @Rob...Name calling...good one my boy. Feel good now?

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-11-14 14:01

      @Shimmer - probably not as good as you feel when you look at your racist self in the morning.

      rob.gunning.1 - 2012-11-14 14:04

      @raymond - proably because the farmer gets the FBE (free basic electrcity). Here, read how it works for yourself and now the truth...

      hendrik.verwoerd.14 - 2012-11-14 14:52

      Now do you see why the corrupt & dishonest ANC officials have such thick skins, its because Democratic A$$holes blame them for everything.. That's why they dont give a sh*t what the unbiased & fair citizens say, because we are surrounded by verbal morons who make it their duty to scream harder than 'the voice of reason' when matters have sh*t to do with either the ANC or the DA. This is an economic problem not a political problem!!! More importantly, all your stupid finger pointing is hiding the fact that Helen Zille is just another apartheid boer in democratic colors, the apartheid gov miss-used the ARMY, Martial Law, thats what needs to be declared for a countries armed forces to be called in, is inhumane & illegal in SA & in many 1st world countries abroad. Soldiers are trained to KILL not Police!!!1 But hey, its non-whites protesting, lets treat them like the slaves the Voortrekker's believed they were, never mind the money they protesting for a better life, abuse of power is a norm so lets join them, seen that we can't beat them!!!

      brad.ken.18 - 2012-11-14 22:18

      A MOTHER has just exposed on E-news, and I quote "Was our BREAD winner!: Figure it out! Rot in hell!!!!

  • AceOfSpades - 2012-11-14 12:26

    It very nice to dream, you will have to have a "State of emergency" declared first before uttering such.

      Desilusionada - 2012-11-14 12:52

      No you don't have to. The Army is regularly deployed. Especially over Christmas....

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-14 13:13

      Yes, they were even at Marikana..

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-14 14:13

      The farm salaries were compliant with the labour law which is stipulated by the MINISTER who is now running as a gopher messenger to continue the farce of destabilizing the economy further. You chaps (if you are not seasonal work SEEKERS) should be pounding on the doors of the ministry of labour about the wage levels. ============================= ANC & YL & FYL are stepping up threat to make Western Cape ungovernable and to destabilize the economy further? Using bussed in seasonal work "seekers" to boot! We can only wonder which youth camp they have been trained up in........... as the minister turned into a simpleton gopher messenger instead of dealing with these issues she is bound to because she instead is boosting nkandla profligacy and securing her deployed cadre position. NXA Do we need this type of trash for government?

      tony.angel.3975 - 2012-11-14 14:49

      Why dont you go and stick your head in a hole Mr or Mrs spade?

      hendrik.verwoerd.14 - 2012-11-14 14:58

      @Desilusionada: "AceOfSpades" is right, you need to declare a "State of Emergency" before you can call in the Army. But the real question is, what are we citizens doing about this?? nothing, we've become so accustomed to the abuse of power that even our courts are not stepping in to inform the Gov & Helen Zille, what you are doing is not right & its illegal!!

  • reynhard.carelse - 2012-11-14 12:30

    Wonder who paid for the buss services...?

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-14 13:13

      The same people who provide t-shirts with "farmworker refugees" on them.

      rozvi.moyo - 2012-11-14 13:49

      R80 per day is a ridiculous amount to be paying another human being. Even if that is set as a minimum wage, responsible business people should pay their workers reasonable salaries. THIS IS SLAVERY!! - taking advantage of people`s lack of options to feed themselves...

  • derek.bredenkamp.3 - 2012-11-14 12:33

    So now we need the army to stop people from complaining about their slave wages. Almost as stupid as her idea to use the army to fight drug abuse.

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-11-14 12:38

      Yeah, almost as sad as having the defense force (using the term lightly) aiming automatic machineguns at striking mine workers.

      Desilusionada - 2012-11-14 12:57

      Yes and also to stop them from burning the place down as the ANC controlled SAPS cannot do so. So that the ANC controlled Fransman and Ehrenreich can stop swearing, behave like civilised people and stop exploiting those same people for cannon fodder and their own political gains. Each policeman that from now on gets hurt is on the head of Zuma.....

      jlourens - 2012-11-14 12:59

      @ Derek - by complaining you mean destroying property of over 500k and injuring a policemen?...That is why we have a Defense also assist domestically where SAP is stretched thin. Granted salaries are very low - but if they keep this up & the farms go out of production, they all sit without jobs. Maybe you should take a drive through Manenburg on a Friday night before making statements you know nothing about...

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-14 13:02

      Derek.bredenkamp.3. The Government set the wages not Zille. So who is stupid now?.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-14 13:14

      News just in, a farmer has been killed by striking workers... Good enough for you Derek?

      rozvi.moyo - 2012-11-14 13:53

      When a worker who is not protected by his government or business community sees that negotiation has not worked in the past, the next option will be to use force. Using force is bad but at times thats the only option that sends a message. R80 per day is a ridiculous amount to be paying another human being. Even if that is set as a minimum wage, responsible business people should pay their workers reasonable salaries. THIS IS SLAVERY!! - taking advantage of people`s lack of options to feed themselves...

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 14:13

      Oh hell Rosvi - let me help you out there: Here is a definition/description of slavery. It is very different to what anyone has/is experiencing in south Africa. Why exaggerate? Slavery is a system under which people are treated as property to be bought and sold, and are forced to work.[1] Slaves can be held against their will from the time of their capture, purchase or birth, and deprived of the right to leave, to refuse to work, or to demand compensation. Historically, slavery was institutionally recognized by many societies; in more recent times slavery has been outlawed in most societies but continues through the practices of debt bondage, indentured servitude, serfdom, domestic servants kept in captivity,...........

  • corne.koekemoer.1 - 2012-11-14 12:33

    R70 per day is s*%&t pay but it is the minimum wage the ANC agreed on. Don't fight the farmers fight your own pathetic Government.

      winnie.september - 2012-11-14 12:45

      i really cant understand this. these people needed jobs. they they destroying millions? will cost millions to fix,replace.....

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 12:36

    Shoot if the barbarians cannot behave. You don't solve labour issues by going on the rampage. South Africans need to learn how to deal with problems the civilised way, and not the ANC way.

  • Judy - 2012-11-14 12:39

    Does Helen really think "he" wants to get the army involved? They wouldnt even help with the drug areas in the Cape. What do they actually do anyway?. Since most of them are also famous for toitoi tactics.This is all ANC motivated.. We need to declare the Western Cape a separate country from the rest of SA and get leaders with foreward thiking in control. Our own Police and our own army and definitely our own LAWS ones that can be upheld in a true court of Law. HOWS THAT?

      ntobeko.mhlongo - 2012-11-14 14:09

      You're such a BIG BIG dreamer

      tony.angel.3975 - 2012-11-14 14:57

      The army cannot do anything!50% unfit and the rest have some kind of fisical difitioncy!(scuse my spelling)I have seen it!

  • mart.botha - 2012-11-14 12:42

    Can grape harvesting be mechanised? If so form a co-op and just do it! The country's enemies are flying their true colours and are set on a path where they will soon enough begin turning on each other. I don't earn much but I know if I ask my boss for a 100+% increase he will tell me to foff. Where does this highly inflated opinion of one's worth to an employer come from. Politicians is that answer !

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-11-14 12:46

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-14 13:06

      Mantlekilo. Yes it can be mechanized Many overseas wine farmers already do so.

      Judy - 2012-11-14 13:32

      It has nothing to do with mechanised. The "veterans " have been promised what you have. Now they want it one way or another.

  • komorison - 2012-11-14 12:44

    Troops are not supposed to do police work!

      Judy - 2012-11-14 13:25

      Well the police are so badly trained and when they do eventually do something .. everyone cries foul!. Do us normal civilians just have tolet them loot and destroy as they please. I dont think so. I for one have had enough.

  • joe.whiteman.9 - 2012-11-14 12:46

    @ impi I want your TV and your radio and everything you have got ! Now give it to me, I am demanding it!!!!

  • braamc - 2012-11-14 12:48

    Because they must always behave like savages. Let them loose their jobs

      cornel.grundlingh - 2012-11-14 13:33

      what?! 'because they must always behave like savages'? I cant believe you said that? you are a poepkop of note!

  • Olembe - 2012-11-14 12:49

    now everyone is protesting; i wonder why Zuma wives do not protest for better wages ?

  • jobho.maguni - 2012-11-14 12:50

    Hellen Zille's love for deployment of the army is worrying. It is becoming the same with striking workers' love for violence

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-14 13:15

      When the police is stretched thin then what?

      steve.ritchie.739 - 2012-11-14 13:26

      So who else is going to help with the cops so stretched? Got any ideas bright-spark?

      jobho.maguni - 2012-11-14 14:00

      The army is not meant for civilian combat, the cops are not stretched thin. If there were more than 600 officers in Marikana why cant we have even half that number in De Doorns? unless they are politicking. But all the same a politician who trusts in bringing the army always is not good

  • snethemba.mthembu.3 - 2012-11-14 12:51

    Stop blaming anc. Da must solve their problems

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-11-14 12:54

      Who has the majority in the government? Anc . Who sets minimum wage ? The government. So as you can see this is the ANC 's problem. Do some research before opening your mouth

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-14 12:55

      Why? It was caused by the ANC. Are you some kind of 'special case'?

      gavin.schilder - 2012-11-14 13:04

      How is this the DA's fault. The ANC set the minimum wage. Yes, we all have the right to protest, but why destroy vineyards. There will be no work to get back too. Farmer will need less labour.

      gladstone.dyonase - 2012-11-14 13:05

      You are a bunch of fools all of you! Who said anything about the ANC? Zille is asking for the National Defence Force to interfere, as these toy-toyis seem to be getting out of hands. Instead of emailing cop to kill them. Very Good My Premier, I think I'll Vote for DA next time.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-14 13:14

      Snethemba.mthembu.3. Tony Ehrennreich and Marius Fransman who are behind these strikes are ANC. So your party is the cause of all the tripe. They conveniently forgot that the ANC Government set the wages, just so they can make a mess in DA held regions. Mister Ehrenreich earns two wages every month. Why doesn't he share with the poor?.

      richard.hipkin - 2012-11-14 13:16

      Lots of eastern cape educated comments here!

      snethemba.mthembu.3 - 2012-11-14 13:37

      This people voted da bcoz they trust. Zille nw she want help from corrupted gorv as thy say idnt get it ithink she run out of ideas. If she cnt control wcape how cn. She control the country

      ntobeko.mhlongo - 2012-11-14 14:39

      I fail to understand why everyone keep on saying the government sets minimum wage for farm workers, we all know that farm workers are being exploited in this country. The strikes must go in South Afrika, intensify and spread to all industries. If this economy is prepared to only service white capital and the black elite, then the black masses must collapse it. Let there be capital-flight and starvation for all

      modernmetaphysicist.modern - 2012-11-14 16:18

      Do you understand how Economics work, go study before you speak rubbish

      modernmetaphysicist.modern - 2012-11-14 16:20

      @ntobeko.mhlongo and when you have to look in to your children's eyes when they haven't eaten in days don't complain and say you didn't want it, you totally unaware of the implications of such mass stupidity

  • emmanuel.roodt - 2012-11-14 13:07

    Wanna Do Someting? You Need to SECEDE.

  • sharon.l.smith.7773 - 2012-11-14 13:10

    So sick of the ignorance in this country. Stop having so many children as well. Have heard now farmers are fleeing the area. No farmers no farms no jobs no money. How stupid can you be ..... No please ... Don't bother to answer. Call police.

  • tinkerbell.brits - 2012-11-14 13:13

    Me and my wife live in de doorns and its no joke... Send in the army, police, ministers and presidents... Just make them stop!!! Its hurting everyone!!! The protesters, the farmers and the civilians... We have nothing to do with this... We live in fear every day... Please Stop!!!

      Judy - 2012-11-14 13:29

      I am so sorry you are inb the middle of this. The farmers are always the ones way out in the open. Happened in Rhodesia too. Still no lessons learnt here. Strength for the coming years.

      jobho.maguni - 2012-11-14 14:20

      There is nothing called Rhodesia, unless you are still living in the Smith (colonialism) days

  • richard.hipkin - 2012-11-14 13:16

    New just in, a farmer has been murdered by striking "workers" - is everyone happy now (ANC supporters)?

  • johan.verwey - 2012-11-14 13:18

    Hey Junebugg blackpanther...........who lay down the laws for minimum wages? The anc government and cosatu make the laws on minimum wages old chop. What do you know anyway you black panther racist. Your group wants to kill all whites , right?

  • modernmetaphysicist.modern - 2012-11-14 13:22

    i feel for the people living in fear cause of politics and hidden agenda's, yes by all means we all want increases thanks to our incompetent thieving government officials filling their pockets at the nations expense, bring the army in once again, these hooligans needs to be put on a leash, the people are not understanding that destroying our agricultural sector and the mining sector will cripple everyone, no one will be safe from over priced living in S.A, when will the politicians just catch a wake up, ffs. such homoerectus mentality, no freaken savvy, savvy isn't something you can steal,come right S.A

  • sheila.wilson.92798 - 2012-11-14 13:27

    These pathetic people with their racist rants that crawl out of the woodwork here. If you don't have anything intelligent to say, don't make yourselves look like backward neanderthals.

  • mark.uys.5 - 2012-11-14 13:40

    Africa! the year 2012, space stations, hybrid cars, superfast computers, smartphones, and still knop kieries and donkie karre... lol

  • manu.dibango.96 - 2012-11-14 13:41

    Some of you keep saying that it's the governments fault because they set the minimum wage. That's a lame excuse. Minimum wage is the least amount you can pay, but there is nothing stopping you from paying more. If anything you are displaying your hypocrisy and double standards. When government does wrong you condemn it, but in this instance where it benefits you to pay low wages you are happy to use their minimum wage. Haa!

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-11-14 13:49

      Minimum wage is there for a reason. These people are uneducated manual laborers. They also receive free accommodation and food.

      manu.dibango.96 - 2012-11-14 13:59

      You are right minimum wage is there for a reason. Minimum wage is there to prevent you from giving workers even less. But I repeat there is nothing stopping you from giving workers more. Nothing at all. BTW just because these workers are uneducated (oh you lot so love this word) or laborers doesn't justify you abusing them. He he he funny how you think that a shack qualifies as free accommodation. You people are shameless.

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-11-14 14:40

      I agree with just because they are uneducated does not mean they should be abused. But if you want a better job than picking grapes maybe you should have gone to school, studied a trade(which the government pays for) or start your own business. So please stop playing the victim. These strikers just killed someone , and I don't care how rough your life is , it does not give you the right to kill another human being. They demand to be treated fairly then in the very next breath they are destroying and killing. Explain to me how this is right.

  • manu.dibango.96 - 2012-11-14 13:43

    After what happened in marikana I am surprised anyone would be this bold to call in the army.

  • Judy - 2012-11-14 13:44

    WE MUST SAVE OUR FARMERS. Without them the whole economy collapses. Maybe we must also bus people in to look after the farms.. Remember Guard Force? .... Theres lots of us out of work right now, so why dont we all go there and show our unity?.. Just a thought

  • manu.dibango.96 - 2012-11-14 13:47

    After what happened in marikana I am surprised anyone would be this bold to call in the army. What also intrigues me is how many of you have been surprised by these events. Where have you been? For the last few years notable people (Tutu, Vavi, ect.,) have been warning that things were about to come to a head. In anything it's surprising that it didn't happen sooner.

  • rozvi.moyo - 2012-11-14 14:08

    Its interesting that everyone is dismissing land reform and citing Zimbabwe as an example of a failed land reform programme. I dont agree with the manner in which the land was distributed but there are positives that can be drawn from the way things have unfolded. Farming is a business and its not an easy business but like anything else it can be learnt. The trade offs for training people or for people to learn to farm on the ground are millions or billions in lost revenue. However with time all those people will learn how to farm or how to run the business. Obviously the best solution is a compromise and agreement from both parties on how land should be distributed. Tobacco production in Zimbabwe has gone up back to 131 million kg of the crop and this is coming from more than 60,000 farmers compared to 3,000 white farmers who used to produce tobacco before the controversial land reform. The benefits in my opinion is that in the long run those people will be empowered with both skills and wealth. You can read this interesting article from the New York times on the land reform.

      jakes.kellerman - 2012-11-14 15:04

      3,000 White farmers employing 150 farm workers/farm = 450,000 jobs create vs 60,000 Black farmers employing 3 farm workers/farm = 180,000 jobs created. Boet, you must start looking at the bigger picture!! We have a Zim domestic worker and you do not even want to hear the stories about the way that the black farmers are treating their black workers, and she could not even complain to government this time round or strike because the white factor has been taken out of the equation. She came over to the land of white and honey without a passport due to the fact that she was not paid for 3 months by the black farmer and starving!! By the way, why do you think she came to RSA and not any other 100% black country? Don't worry one day you will wake up!!

  • J.Stephen.Whiteley - 2012-11-14 14:18

    If only tyre burners realised the danger they are causing to their (and others) lungs from the toxic fumes. Kathy

      crazyjourno - 2012-11-14 14:54

      They don't care... They smoke tik and drink papsak... A little tyre will not bother them!

  • jakes.kellerman - 2012-11-14 14:20

    When I last checked, it is your democratic right to quit your job if you are unhappy with the salary on offer or anything else. So, farm workers please exercise your right!! If not then stop complaining since it is also a farmer’s democratic right to offer anything above the ANC government’s min. R/hour rate, which by the why was not legislated by government because somebody woke up one morning with a certain R/hour rate but was researched and debated and then legislated, and if they feel that R150 a day is the new wage then the government should implement this, but they must also then find the money to pay for all of those farm workers that will sit without a job because these farmers have now mechanised his operations to survive the escalating wage bill. Wake up and smell the coffee farm workers, if a person was in business not to make money they would be out of business!! A farmer is not like government that has money in the bank whether the harvest is good or bad

  • richard.bernardo.982 - 2012-11-14 14:34

    In the rest of the country where the ANC is in power its "Lets build a better life for all" in the Western Cape where the DA is in power its back to the old style dirty tricks of destabilization, int imidation and bussing of "rent-a-crowd" thugs to all the volatile hot spots. One would be a fool not to see that this smacks of typical revolutionary antics. While there might be legitimate grievances from the farm workers side it has now been completely over-shadowed by the political forces that have hi-jacked what could have been a legitimate and peaceful strike. This should serve as an eye opener to all people that assume that South Africa would be a better place under DA rule. What is happening in the Western Cape now will happen in all 9 provinces x 100 should the DA be in power.

  • ryan.holland.395454 - 2012-11-14 14:44

    Farmer A pays R80 per day. Farmer B pays R150. Farmer A can sell wine at cheaper price and corners market. Farmer B goes out of business. Answer, Increase minimum wage to livable amount. Somebody please point out where I'm wrong. Is this too simple minded a perspective?

  • tolene - 2012-11-14 14:52

    May I say that I have friends and family who earn between R2000-R3000 per month, they pay rent, have children and still get by. A farmworker earning R70 per day working 5 days a week gets on average R2175 they dont pay for their houses, the farmers also give out rations every Friday, such as food for families etc. they also get overtime. So tell me, how come some people can live on the salary these farmerworkers are getting and they survive. Oh, I know.... They dont go spending all their money on alcohol and stay drunk the whole weekend... This is what happened when we were farming an it still happens!!!!! Dont for one minute think that ALL whites, other races are better off than the blacks in SA, many get by with less.... People need to discuss things before storming and destroying property, by burning vineyards, do they not understand that the farmers wont get an income from that harvest now, therefore wont be able to pay them and therefor will have to send them packing... Oh wait..... The farmers will then be deemed racist again.. It is a lose-lose situation!!!!

  • lee.ferreira - 2012-11-14 14:57

    Unless things have changed in the interim, when we worked on a wine farm 10 years ago, there was no legislated minimum wage for farm labourers. These workers are grape pickers, seasonal work only, so most definately there is no legislation to protect them!

  • papi.benra - 2012-11-14 15:09

    y is hellen zille always calling on the SANDF to intervene wen thr r problems in Cape Town?i think the minister of SANDF mus tel her the responsebilities of our soldiers cuz clearly she seem to b in the dark.

  • amos.motsai - 2012-11-14 16:45

    Eish madam Zille is hard ne, where is this boys of ANC they must come to help you just like the way you did for them in Marikana , where is boyboy Malema? Is getting tuff for Madam Zille help him boyboy

  • Ven.saDhammananda - 2012-11-14 17:25

    Strange in the bad days of apartheid, it was never ever so bad as it is today.

  • Ven.saDhammananda - 2012-11-14 17:27

    Now FREEDOM without responsibility ?? That does not work.

  • mmoledis - 2012-11-15 10:05

    Let the DA sort its mess in Western Cape, there is no way SANDF can be sent there because that is not their task laid down on the constitution of this country, SANDF is there for protectiong borders of this country and wait or fight for the enemies of this country, let police do their task as that is an internal duty of SAPS.She once said Western Cape is better than other provinces under the ruling party so why is Western Cape farmers not pay strikes what they want because is best?

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