Zuma, Mthethwa must step down: Malema

2012-08-18 15:57

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma and Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa must resign following the death of mineworkers at Lonmin's Marikana operations, in the North West, expelled ANC Youth League president Julius Malema said on Saturday.

"President Zuma decided over the massacre of our people, he must step down."

Malema was speaking in Wonderkop where around 34 people were killed in a clash between police on Thursday.

He said Mthethwa must also resign because the police shot people under his command.

"He must resign because he failed in executing his duties."

Malema told the crowd that the police were supposed to protect them and not kill them.

'Stand firm on demand'

"It has never happened before that so many people were killed in a single day and it became normal," he said.

Malema, who pledged his support for the striking mineworkers urged them not to retreat and to stand firm on their demand for a R12 500 salary.

He said the reason the police shot at the people was because they were protecting the interest of ANC NEC member, Cyril Ramaphosa, who he alleged owned shares in Lonmin.

"Lonmin had a high political connection that is why our people were killed. They were killed to protect the shares of Cyril Ramaphosa," he said.

He told the gathering that it was amazing that Ramaphosa was able to buy a buffalo for R18m but could not pay them the R12 500 they were demanding.

Earlier today, the Shanduka Group, which was formed Cyril Ramaphosa, pledged R2m for the burial of scores of people killed in the Lonmin clashes.

'I don't have a president'

Malema said one reason why he called for the resignation of President Zuma was that he failed in his duty to protect the citizens of the country.

"When you were killed, Zuma was still in the country. He decided to go to Maputo, Mozambique and once he was there he was advised that he made a wrong decision. That is why he returned to the country yesterday [Friday]."

He told the crowd that if they were asked who is the president of the country, they should say they do not have a president.

"I don't have a president. Zuma is not a president."

He called on the mineworkers to form a militant union that would represent their interests.

He said that the National Union of Mineworkers (NUM) was no longer a union that represented the interests of the workers but interested in making more money.

Peaceful crowd

"NUM is not a union, it's a company. They hold shares in mining companies, that is why when there are problems in the mines they are the first to sell out the workers."

The crowd dispersed peacefully after Malema's address.

A total of 34 people were killed in a shootout that erupted near the mine when police tried to disperse striking miners.

More than 78 people were injured. Another 10 people had by then been killed in the violent protests at the mine over the past week.

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-08-18 16:00

    I agree, but, get back under the house, you barking Pup.

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-08-18 17:01

      "He called on the mineworkers to form a militant union that would represent their interests." Arrest him for incitement.

      charnelle.bester - 2012-08-18 17:29

      Squeege! Your spot on! Surely they should consider this.

      mario.polanski.3 - 2012-08-18 19:31

      Spiderman Malema, SUPER HERO of the black oppressed, is back hanging upside down from his perch, intently breaking open sunflower seeds

  • kim.buren - 2012-08-18 16:03

    I smell election time around the corner Mr Showerhead. The damage is done and the SAP defended themselves from these unruly hooligans. Live by the swoard, die by the sword

  • bongani.mtsweni.35 - 2012-08-18 16:04

    I knew that he was going there to fuel the flames

      boltonbarry - 2012-08-18 16:08


      modiri.molosiwa - 2012-08-18 16:33

      the whole truth

      nicholas.graan - 2012-08-18 16:33

      Quite ironic that Malema is there to speak "in defense" of the miners, yet he is actually using them to his advantage in order to do some politicking ahead of Mangaung.

      george.dinta - 2012-08-18 17:02

      @Bongani, Sup more people died?

      om.nom.nom.01 - 2012-08-18 17:03

      It's funny he didn't mention not even one word about the 10 men the miners murdered... what about their families????????????

      hunter.tseke - 2012-08-18 19:18

      The flames were there before malema was born,flames were there in 1993, the country is burning now, flames will always be there until someone addresses inequalities

  • ryvon30 - 2012-08-18 16:04

    shut the f**k up Juju

      morama.sebata - 2012-08-18 18:31


  • mmuponisim - 2012-08-18 16:04

    Juju can say whaever he want to,mr zuma knows why.......

  • ntsiki.mdeni - 2012-08-18 16:05

    Agreed. I don't care if its Julius Malema saying it

  • charles.mbayah - 2012-08-18 16:05

    Why is this column a cut and paste of the Times live column.....Come on now

  • richard.lemmer1 - 2012-08-18 16:06

    I would like to welcome him at my place !!!! It wuld definately be a one fime visit !!!!!!

  • nico.maponya - 2012-08-18 16:06

    TRUE this country doesn't have a president.

      themba.qwabe.1 - 2012-08-18 17:58

      neither does it have aleader but reactionaries who seek fame from the week and agrieved.

  • pearl.boasi - 2012-08-18 16:07

    Damn! I hate to admit it but I agree with this fool. Zuma, Mthethwa, everybody in the ANC run government must resign. Time for change, total change.

      warren.vanwyk.3 - 2012-08-18 16:56

      Yep, time for the DA to clean up the rotten mess!!!

      dizwanez - 2012-08-18 17:37

      Politicians regardless of their political affiliations they are all the same. Malema instigating something and in due course will find out. DAMN!!! I hate politicians its about times we SOUTH AFRICANS standup...

      themba.qwabe.1 - 2012-08-18 18:01

      wrong its the elecorate that needs to change otherwise we will remain nothing but factions that destruct what we have gained.

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-18 16:07

    We (I surmise most of us) will support Jacob Zuma with our lives in terms of what the Constitution requires. The Malemas must take note. Let's not get ourselves into the custom of the old English to hang the rubbisn like Malema in public. He is seriously begging for it.

      dizwanez - 2012-08-18 17:41

      I fully agree. Desperate times call for desperate measures.

      morama.sebata - 2012-08-18 18:35


      nicolaas.geldenhuys - 2012-08-20 17:06

      @ Morama, one can see you are a retarded Malema supporter because you can't locate the CAPS LOCK key on your keyboard!!!

  • wzimbeva - 2012-08-18 16:07

    Malema shutup, you couldnt even pay your garden boy 100rand salary. Cyril Rhamaphosa must do what he wants with his money weather he buys a buffalo or a lamboguin, you must appreciate the fact he is providing work to all those pple you busy brain washing.

      nkosinathi.dyantyi.9 - 2012-08-18 16:26

      Shut up headless boy (malema) the protesters they 1st killed police the police must wave them? The police they r human being like u

      richard.lemmer1 - 2012-08-18 16:33

      Very well said ! Could not have put it better !!'!!!!!

      warren.vanwyk.3 - 2012-08-18 17:00

      @ wzimbeva: Best comment of the year!!!

      tshivhombelaf - 2012-08-18 17:31

      At least a buffalo can breed but hundrends of thousands spent on moet and whisky is more than a waste.

      morama.sebata - 2012-08-18 18:36

      GO BACK TO IFP!!!

  • tshivhombelaf - 2012-08-18 16:08

    Is it for your own benefit or miners benefits? The man of your calibre cannot be trusted. In Limpopo where your allies were responsible for text books scandal you never uttered a word. It is a shame you are a leader of stirring emotions who prey on the berieved.

      morama.sebata - 2012-08-18 18:37


      om.nom.nom.01 - 2012-08-18 18:53

      morama... maybe you should try to understand common sense first, mamphrrah!

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-18 18:56

      this malema must Hamba, he is dividing everyone, he is insulting everyone, he is a dangerous snake, time to lock him up & throw away the key.

  • khanyisile.mkhize.14 - 2012-08-18 16:09

    What's new.....still bitter. Look for a job and shut up.

  • andrew.worrall.5 - 2012-08-18 16:11

    He is starting to spill the beans. Giving away ANC secrets...let him talk

  • christiaan.oosthuizen.568 - 2012-08-18 16:12

    At Least he did not blame the whites for once .....but i suppose that would come later

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-18 19:00

      no now he has found a new enemy, one which he has underestimated I think. Today he has insulted Vavi, Cosatu, NUM, Zuma, Mthethwa, ANC GOVT, Luthuli house, Cyrl Ramaphosa, he is starting to make many enemies, I hope they sort him out before he completely F**s up the whole nation.

      jenny.webbe - 2012-08-19 15:02

      Nigel - slight correction: He isn't STARTING to making enemies, he's CONTINUING to make enemies. Four things he can never be accused of is tact, diplomacy, charm or intelligence.

  • lwazi.sibiya.10 - 2012-08-18 16:15

    Juju is right. NUM are sell outs and the issue of capitalist Cyril and Zuma is on point

  • william.letsong.5 - 2012-08-18 16:15

    I smell an African Spring LOL.

  • langton.gudo - 2012-08-18 16:16


  • vuyisan - 2012-08-18 16:16

    Big ups to the ANC for expelling this guy, rest in peace Julius Malema because we no longer take you seriously now because all you all the time is to continue prooving that you are a fool

  • marius.koen.16 - 2012-08-18 16:19

    So basically nothing new, he just let out some air. What a waste of time.

  • sibongiseni.mthembu.5 - 2012-08-18 16:19

    Lonmin workers must not allow Malema n his frnds 2 use them in pushing their political agenda.our country does not need rotten potatoes like Malema.dis boy doesn't care abt lonmin workers,all he cares abt is getting political point.

  • grace.andtruth.77 - 2012-08-18 16:19

    Malema you must step down with the whole effing lot of them!!! I like the new police commissioner... She supports law and order. The police were outnumbered 10 - 1! What would you do if 10 wild eyed crazy armed men ran at you and you had a gun? I'm honest - I'd shoot

      thaban.hlengwa - 2012-08-18 16:54

      Well said and done. I will do same. Shoot.

      lynda.manxiwa - 2012-08-18 17:30

      Imagine if these policemen ran instead, this country's crime rate would escalate as the police would be rendered useless. As bad as it is those policemen are people's children, father, mothers and most importantly bread winners and so were the people the miners killed earlier in the week.

      nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-08-18 19:20

      @lynda, I said exactly the same, I the miners has killed 60 policemen, it would have been even worse, it would have sent a message out to all these militant stirkers that its ok to do this, it would have been the end of SA as we know it.

  • Phila Mtshali - 2012-08-18 16:19

    malema is jst fueling the already out of control fire,n we all knw that he doesn't care about these ppl.he shud jst shut up n sit down

      lindela.e.mtshali - 2012-08-19 14:51

      This clown is too young to have had any meaningful contribution to the struggle. He was nowhere on Thursday to address the same miners and stand with them to take the bullets as a true revolutionary he claims to be. I want somebody who can quote a law for me that says a person does not have a right to defend themselves! Security guards, policemen and other Lonmin workers were hacked to death with pangas and spears. Must the police run away? This clown must go register at the University of Limpopo and shut up.

  • bennievanderwesthuizen - 2012-08-18 16:21

    And you should go missing idiot - why not sell your landrover and house in sandton and help your poor brothers

      MoshKaDeph - 2012-08-18 16:27

      Like U did?

      MoshKaDeph - 2012-08-18 16:27

      Like U did?

      vuyisan - 2012-08-18 17:25

      yes if Malema can have luxury lifestyle, why can't Cyril buy whatever he wants if its his money?

  • Singatha - 2012-08-18 16:23

    Oh boy,here we go again.Politics of the illiterate

  • crracker.crackerr - 2012-08-18 16:24

    Sedition is one the definitions available to us all on the blessed internet. What is it that prevents the NPA to prosecute the Malemas, the very ones ones who are thinking they are above our democracy?

  • hudayfah.newman - 2012-08-18 16:25

    My boy. . . .I honestly don't know what to say. Some of the things you spoke holds a lot of weight, but I think they're going to come after your ass. You are far from my favourite politician, but at the moment you are saying the right things, and I know it's only because you feel they used you (like a condom). But, you are threatening too many peoples pockets. And they love their bucks nowadays more than their pap. If I were you I would step up my security.

      sibusiso.mhlongo.35 - 2012-08-18 18:50

      hahahaha thats a good one hudayfah

  • ntsunyane.frederick - 2012-08-18 16:26

    Please tell malema that some miners do not belong to ANC. His reckless utterances will fuel the situation.Why malema hate zuma so much?I am not supporter of zuma but this going too far.So long as he lives in SA, Zuma is his president.Education is very important.When malema was friend with zuma miners were not there.

  • cayle.barsby - 2012-08-18 16:27

    what? They trying to make an excuse for people being killed?? It is always a bad when people get killed..period

      dona.debarreyra - 2012-08-18 22:50

      people you refer to are the police, security guards and innocent bystanders? or are you referring to mineworkers with guns, and pangas that were killed because they killed and attacked innocent people in a illegal violent strike?

  • matshidiso.aphane.7 - 2012-08-18 16:27

    Malema undermines the inteligence of the masses, he was the one who wanted to KILL for JZ and he is the one who stood pro Mathale to be re-elected as ANC chair in limpopo after 3 departments wr under admin. What makes him think he is best suted to solve this, why didn't he interfer after 2 police men wr killed in Rustenburg during the week? He should just go back to school and rewrite woodwork

  • frans.martins - 2012-08-18 16:28

    Wether you like it or not, he will return, it's on the cards...

  • mzukisijola.jose1 - 2012-08-18 16:29

    The poor will support you malema but the rich will call you names ,keep on the light of economic freedom,not again in this country will die for our democratic right ,come mangaung

      trix.duvenage - 2012-08-18 17:23

      Economic freedom will only come by using some brains and malemma and his counter allies do not have any. So stop dreaming and start contributing to the economics in the country. All malemma and his socalled worshippers want is something for nothing like the ZIM scum. Name street names in places where YOU created something and claim Mines that YOU opened. Stop standing hands in the pockets and make DEMANDS and start THINKING where everything in this country came from. Any bloody fool can expect something for nothing but the wise knows to CREATE wealth. The day Malemma stops to make silly senseless deamands and start peaching creativity, things will change for the better for everybody in this lawless country. Instead of enhancing lawlessness and onesided demands he should inspire the youth to start working towards a goal suitable for all nations in the country. Malemmas problem is he is a racist and I wonder if he himself knows it.

  • tolo.maano - 2012-08-18 16:29

    Oh juju for president when people ask me who is my president ..,..I don't have a president

  • mandilakhe.nompehle - 2012-08-18 16:30

    Malema is on fire.... I for now turn to believe him, that after Mangaung he will return to ANC...

  • charmaine.hoffmann.1 - 2012-08-18 16:31

    Auhhh!! Now I see, Malama is starting his own political party...not so sure what the name will be, but he already has 3000 members, more if you add their women and extended families....

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-08-18 18:14


  • duma.nkabinde - 2012-08-18 16:31

    and the crowd dispersed peacefully!!! Who's the monster now???????

      headman.waai - 2012-08-18 16:37

      The crowd was so Blind to listen to a unemployed Hijacker, They have to Disperse Peacefully because of they listen to ablind man.

      nettie.potgieter.5 - 2012-08-18 16:52

      Appear to dispersed peacefully. They left to take Malema's message to the masses and will be back. More blood is going to flow soon!!

      duma.nkabinde - 2012-08-18 17:14

      The masses know of Malema's msg and the truth that lies therein.

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-08-18 17:42

      @duma.nkabinde, they yearn leadership at their time of need and Malema provided...

      dona.debarreyra - 2012-08-18 22:56

      that is just why they get R4k a month, because they are uneducated people, and that is why they listen to a person like malema. they can't see through him, just as most ppl can't see through the fact that malema is behind the strike and the violence and now he comes in the rescuer, really how stupid can you get! wonder if he got that right by false promises or did he actually paid them off?

  • anje.duplessis.9 - 2012-08-18 16:33

    Malema is a clown! He should be happy he got away with all the corruption and just shut up now!

  • richard.lemmer1 - 2012-08-18 16:36

    At least Ramaphosa provide jobs unlke splinterhead which have lacish parties and wear designer watches and build a house of 16 m all on a 25k salary !!!!!

  • spikes.joubert - 2012-08-18 16:44

    What a load of bull dust. This must be his(Fat Malama) best effort to date

  • frikkie.botes - 2012-08-18 16:44

    Malema is doing the right thing, he instigates more so we can be left in peace. Seer v Rensburgs visions must be fulfilled sooner than later.

      beki.khumalo - 2012-08-18 16:52

      @Frikkie, I beg you, tell us more about these visions you speak of?

      trix.duvenage - 2012-08-18 17:37

      Ag Frikkie siener van Rensburg se sg visioene was heeltemal verkeerd intrepreteer man. Dis maklik om visioene se 'egtheid' te 'eien' wanneer iets gebeur. Ou siener was bedoel om mense te vermaak. Spits jou liewer toe op samewerking in a land waar plek vir almal is mists ons net ons oe behoorlik open en ons nie steur aan stront soos verkondig deur 'n half mal gewese jeugleier nie.

  • thulanit3 - 2012-08-18 16:46

    Grieved pig...To hell with you!

  • Khayoh Mfiswah - 2012-08-18 16:46

    Tjoh leNtwana iyawakhuluma amaqiniso

  • Millos Mpofu - 2012-08-18 16:46

    Cheap!Cheap! politics.The time this Workers killed the two polices and Guards as well as Six Workers their were right . There is no truth to my youngboy's speech.But thank you the strikers see their mistake they left Pangas/spear in their houses. To get the unprofitable speech and the Briefcase Master's union get a New Support to Mr Malema.Don't forget this is your Chance to form your Party/Mr Mathujwa

  • hermann.hanekom - 2012-08-18 16:47

    Good for Malema, let him sow more division, the country will benefit from that.

  • Zahir - 2012-08-18 16:51

    Do not be fooled malema he does not care about these dead miners he using this as a chance to score ooints to win support to gain more

  • zwelethu.sabasaba - 2012-08-18 16:52

    If the police are supposed to to protect the protesting mine workers, why do the workers have weapons? Everything that Malema says is Big-Shiny-Face-Balony. This guy is a political socialite, a political Khanyi Mbau and Paris Hilton

  • musamba.mumba - 2012-08-18 16:53

    Interesting. African politicians are the same every where. So Cyril Ramaphosa, alleged owns shares in Lonmin? Mmmmmmmmmmmmmmh.

  • ndlelenhle.nyathi - 2012-08-18 17:03

    Shame on u Opportunist Malema!!!

      headman.waai - 2012-08-18 18:34

      He is not an opportunist he is lost I think we must label him at the SABC programe Khumbulikhaya he doesnt no where he is Poor confused Maleema

  • everisto.karuru.1 - 2012-08-18 17:06

    President ZUMA previously said one day Malema will rule this country

      siphom.mnguni - 2012-08-18 17:17

      @everisto.karuru, and he was damned right he's already doing so! Do you still remember the previous Impala strike Vavi was shouted down yet Malema was listened to. Where were NUM officials to prevent the tragedy that had happened at Lonmin? We are told after Malema had addressed them they peacefully disperse, does it ring the bell?

      sheik.mohammad.378 - 2012-08-18 18:25

      Think he was only trying to flatter the Idoit.