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Zuma: Solve problems the African way

2012-11-02 12:18

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma has told traditional leaders that Africans have their own way of solving their problems through traditional institutions, it was reported on Friday.

"Let us solve African problems the African way, not the white man's way," Zuma was quoted saying at the opening of National House of Traditional Leaders in Parliament on Thursday, The Times reported.

"Let us not be influenced by other cultures and try to think the lawyers are going to help us. We have never changed facts.

"They tell you they are going to change facts. They will never tell you that these cold facts have warm bodies," he said.

The newspaper reported that Zuma's comments could be viewed as an endorsement of the traditional courts bill, which is currently under consideration in Parliament.

The bill was first submitted in 2008, it empowers chiefs to act as judge, prosecutor and mediator, with no legal representation and no appeals allowed.

The Times reported that the bill will affect about 19 million rural people who live on tribal lands ruled by chiefs.

Comments
  • Jeremy - 2012-11-02 12:28

    He's an idiot! There's only one way to settle legal problems - and that's according to the law and constitution of the lad - which applies to all races and both sexes equally. I wonder if the ANC Womens League might actually get off its backside and say something - in view f the fact that rural women will have virtually no rights under African traditional law.....

      bergie.sean - 2012-11-02 12:41

      Not when there is an interdict against you from the supreme courts for some damning tapes. Then you MUUUCH prefer the old chieftains method of law and order.

  • elgh.elgh - 2012-11-02 12:28

    Look where the african way has landed many African countries. It is seriously time that we get a new ruling party with competent people to make rational decisions.

  • johan.monnig - 2012-11-02 12:30

    Why not try solving problems the 'right' way? Both the African way and 'white-man' way have been tried and failed. Aren't we learning anything?

  • willem.vanrensburg.35 - 2012-11-02 12:31

    I thought so, is that the way where you sit down under a tree and talk until everybody agrees to do nothing? It is certainly true of the current government. Just what happened to the toll road debate, under the tree, and nobody agrees?

  • rusted.axe - 2012-11-02 12:31

    idiot. The only way to solve any problem is to provide the most effective solution. If a thing falls you pick it up. There is no "white" or "black" way to fix anything broken. As the proponent executor of White ideas of Taxes, Profit and Legal Tyranny. He should look in a mirror before resorting to political Racism.

  • mariuskowie - 2012-11-02 12:32

    Zuma's comments clearly emphasizes his extremist racist viewpoints. Zuma is not only president over the black population. He keeps on separating the population into race. The "them and us" view is not conducive towards building a non racial community. Every ethnic group have the right to their own identity and traditions. The collective leader of all the ethnic groups do not have the right to pick one group over another. His words smacks of the racist he has proven himself and his government to be.

  • mark.armstrong.1253236 - 2012-11-02 12:33

    Typical, imagine if a white man said "we must solve things the white way, not the african way" - he will be strung up. Fill up that chip on your shoulder JZ.

  • rhett.deklerk - 2012-11-02 12:34

    As soon as I read \white man's...\ I stopped reading

  • luke.dekoker - 2012-11-02 12:37

    zuma, YOU ARE A BLOODY RACIST, why always refer to THE WHITE'S WAY?? If you follow more what the country as a whole wants (not the multi-women & corrupt zuma way)we may just tolerate you. Do us all a VERY BIG FAVOUR and F-OFF.

  • storm.chambers.5 - 2012-11-02 12:37

    I have a South African I.D, passport, drivers license and of course a South African birth certificate. It doesn't matter if your're white, black, Indian or coloured as South African is a South African!!! Zumu go have a shower. P.s your welcom for the 20mil lawyers fees us tax payers paid!!!!

  • luke.dekoker - 2012-11-02 12:38

    zuma you are a disgrace you RACIST cheat.

  • JohnnoBfree - 2012-11-02 12:39

    He he he he he he he he ha ha ha ha ha ha HA HA HA HA HA HA HA We are so screwed! HA HA HA.

      princemxolici - 2012-11-02 12:56

      U can say that again, 5 times if u don't mind. We are very screwed...

      Juan - 2012-11-02 13:09

      Sure glad I don't live in a tribal area where a the chief can decide your fate at will in front of a kangaroo court. OMG we are not moving forward we are moving backwards now

  • wesley.bischoff - 2012-11-02 12:39

    So in one instance, he says we as citizens should be united in our diversity. But now, other cultures shouldn't influence "the African way." Excuse me Zumba-do*s, i was born in South AFRICA, my parents and grandparents were born in South AFRICA.... therefore i am African. Try as you might, nothing will ever change that.

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-11-02 12:39

    These 'traditional institutions' are not acknowledged by law to have any powers, and what ensures that it is free from favor or prejudice?

  • Deon de Lange - 2012-11-02 12:39

    Lawyers won't help us, says SA's most litigious pres in history, who still has multiple civil cases pending against journalists, whose lawyers kept him out of jail using illegally obtained phone taps and whose legal representatives will no doubt continue to fight frantically to keep his ass the taxpayer's butter long after his own party throws him overboard. Hypocritical, fork-tongued git.

  • lerato.tlotleng - 2012-11-02 12:40

    Who voted this man/IDIOT into power?? What a joke!!! Whats the point of having a constitutional law if other people will not enjoy its benefits?

  • mene.voges - 2012-11-02 12:42

    Another great example of a typical idiot!

  • aspruyt - 2012-11-02 12:45

    The African way has never solved any real world problems. All it does it creates more problems while they "talk".

  • BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-11-02 12:57

    Does this Jester even know what he's saying? Someone needs to explain to him the underlying message he projects with these words.

  • jarred.s.holmes - 2012-11-02 12:58

    So white people aren't African now? What a tosspot!

  • konfab - 2012-11-02 12:58

    "...it empowers chiefs to act as judge, prosecutor and mediator, " Judge, Jury and Executioner?

  • MurrMcK - 2012-11-02 12:59

    I wonder what African lawyers are thinking now...

  • phillip.fourie.35 - 2012-11-02 12:59

    And this guy is our president, what a joke

  • Billy - 2012-11-02 13:06

    this man is divisive by nature. embrace differences, learn from it. maybe you can use this new knowledge to fit in with yours. stop being so racist!! this kind of thing is what causes apartheid tendencies! this guy is still afraid of "the white man", because he is promoting "the white boogeyman" by saying these things. what exactly is "the african way"? muti? ritual killings? kangaroo courts? these things work for you maybe if you are a secluded little tribe at the ass end of humanity, NOT when you are trying to be a player in the world. fall in or get left behind.

  • amy.payne.5648 - 2012-11-02 13:07

    Zuma and the ANC are obsessed with the white man ,"Let us not be influenced by other cultures and try to think the lawyers are going to help us" .This coming from the man who has dozens of cases ongoing ,some later dropped ,a complete waste of time.The issue at hand ,if i'm getting this right is that rural leaders will be given absolute power to do whatever they want. I have nothing against traditional leaders ,they have their methods and norms for their area and if people can sought it out among themselves and it works out ,they should just go ahead with it.The problem is this will only work for minor issues ,you can't expect things to be fairly resolved for more serious crimes . A community might go ahead and hide a criminal or if convinced he/she is guilty will chase them down and maybe even kill them .This proposed bill is by any standard morally and ethically wrong.

  • fran.aphane - 2012-11-02 13:08

    So if someone rapes me I am suppose to go to a Kangaroo court and be told that he must pay a goat and that I must forgive him? I am a very respective someone and I believe the bible when it says respect your elders but this time Zuma must voetsek man because he is bloody bored. Please this is an insult and over my firm ass will this take place in my Village because people will just take the law into their own hands and kill the thieve of rapist. Or lets do it this way; how about Kangaroo court vs Mob justice? Because that's exactly what will happen.

  • boeretroos.redakteur - 2012-11-02 13:08

    Watch out - I see an african train wreck approaching fast.

  • cynic.martian.3 - 2012-11-02 13:10

    How about the Indian or Colored way? Or are those the African way or the White man's way? Also, what is the difference between the African way and the White man's way? This is absolute mindless rhetoric!

  • Werner van Deventer - 2012-11-02 13:20

    If what this idiot Zuma said is not seen as racist then I don't know what is. I'm so fed up with these incompetent anc fat cats. But the mindless masses will continue voting them into power so us white folk are in for a seriously rough time.

  • matthew.ovendale.3 - 2012-11-02 13:28

    Ok so lets take a look at what Zuma could be attempting to do here. Zuma is a traditionalist, no one can argue against that. Taking into consideration his constant referrals back to traditional law and customs to justify his actions in a Western ideologically dominated political structure. Nor is he a complete idiot.He is old, he is tired and is beginning to realize that the job he has entails far too much hard work and responsibilities. Where to then, ah retirement. 1. What does one need for that. A retirement village, Nkandla? Almost there. 2. No way of being criminally charged. He has been hard at work on this; suppressing media freedom, undermining the rule of law, no need to mention examples. 3. And finally he needs to still feel important and have some degree of dictatorial rule over lesser beings. In comes the traditional courts bill. You might even find that if he retires in the jurisdiction of these traditional courts he could escape his eventual criminal conviction. who know. One thing that is for certain is the fact that Zuma's needs will always trump the actual needs of South Africans.

  • Martin Mowayo - 2012-11-02 14:23

    There's a high possibility of our President being on drugs or insane!!

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