Zuma advocate expected to return

2012-05-24 13:51

Johannesburg - Advocate Gcina Malindi was expected to return to court to continue argument over whether artist Brett Murray's painting should be banned, after breaking down in court on Thursday.

"He's fine. He will be back to proceed," said Malindi's instructing attorney, Titus Mchunu.

After a gruelling morning of questioning in the South Gauteng High Court on why there was a racial overtone to the painting, featuring genitals on a likeness of President Jacob Zuma, and whether the image could actually be banned given its wide distribution on the internet, witnesses said they saw Malindi slump in his chair and cry.

Judge Neels Claassen immediately adjourned, and word was later sent to the court that the case would resume at 14:00.

The ANC, Zuma, and Zuma's children made an urgent application to have the painting The Spear removed before it was defaced on Tuesday. They also want City Press to remove images of it from its website.

They argue it infringes Zuma's dignity as an individual and as president of the ANC and the country. City Press has refused to remove the painting, citing freedom of expression.

  • Michaele - 2012-05-24 13:57

    Can't wait to see the next lot of antics!!

      willie.vanschoor - 2012-05-24 15:05

      The "Advocate" has been offered a role in Days of our Lives.

      Fussed - 2012-05-25 05:32

      His prick has made more of an impact in sa than his brain

  • JasonMichelleVanderbijlpark - 2012-05-24 13:58

    Engough of this crap already, where is the "real" news?

  • tammy.laumann - 2012-05-24 13:58

    When he realised he was not going to win his case, he broke down and cried.

  • Sam - 2012-05-24 13:59

    This is good... Better than DSTV on a Sun night at eight o clock

      Alf - 2012-05-24 14:16

      It certainly is a contender for top spot together with the weekday moring comedy show "View from the House" - where our parliamentarians and ministers are in action - SPEARheaded by the president!

  • Christopher - 2012-05-24 13:59

    Tears of a clown, in the brief of another clown. A three ring circus!

  • Sechaba30 - 2012-05-24 13:59

    Is he not gonna cry again? Whats wrong with these man lately? Or he is trying to get some attention so that he can be appointed as a Big boss in Constitutional court. He wants to replace that Menzi Ngubane or whatever name he has..

  • Sandra - 2012-05-24 14:00 see beautiful picture of helen zille

      Felix - 2012-05-24 15:08

      The rhino one is brilliant and very relevant.

  • Lyndatjie - 2012-05-24 14:00

    Strong feelings bring about strong emotional outbursts like this... sad that we can't respect that.... And yes - its the little thumb that points down...

      neels.swart.7 - 2012-05-24 14:07

      Nou hoekom gaan troos jy hom nie Lyndatjie

      frenchjoubert - 2012-05-25 08:35

      'n Advokaat is veronderstel om onsydig te wees en dit is duidelik waar die ou se lojaliteit lê....defnitief nie by die gereg nie.

  • Eva - 2012-05-24 14:00

    This was a soccer move. To gain some injury time.

  • matete.k.seshwene - 2012-05-24 14:01

    a bunch of clowns I tell you...

  • Werner - 2012-05-24 14:01

    Hey Judge, No need to pull a Shaik on us!

  • ivan.ferreira - 2012-05-24 14:03

    while Zuma is in court cant they just do a "two for one" and start questioning him about his corruption?

  • Johann - 2012-05-24 14:03

    What nonsens..... There better things that need attention than painting.

  • joe.peters.56 - 2012-05-24 14:05

    An advocate's weak mental strength or a brilliant ploy at trying to show how the painting 'hurts' his client and 'attacks' his dignity? Interesting...

  • dekkeranton - 2012-05-24 14:05

    This kind of cheap theatrics belongs in the State Theatre, not in the court of law. This is insanity! The painting, although crude and tasteless, was not an attack on South Africa, the ANC, the black population or our very painful struggle history. It was a commentary on a man who claims to represent us all, and behaves at the best of times like a tomcat. Please, why the black vs. white thing? See Zuma for what he is, a bad president, and the laughing stock of every thinking person on earth. He has cheapened the presidency and presided over a government that faces daily protests due to the lack of service delivery, the demise of education, healthcare, social services and the uncontrolled growth of corruption, nepotism and tendertrepreneurship. We see daily some sicko politician attack the judiciary or the constitution without any reprimand. Our democracy is young and fragile, and under enormous threat because of Zuma and his mates, yet some people still want to protect him. The sooner his presidency is part of history, the better for all of us on South Africa. I respect the presidency and the constitution, I despise greedy, self serving, corrupt politicians. If a crying attorney is the best evidence of wrongdoing the ANC can come up with, please, don’t insult the intelligence of all in this country.

      Felix - 2012-05-24 15:09

      Boom... here's the dynamite!

  • farmfreund - 2012-05-24 14:08

    The funny thing about the whole story is Zuma should actualy be impressed with the size the artest gived him,

  • Tax - 2012-05-24 14:09

    Babies and old people are being murdered in this country. Why isnt the disgusting, revolting, useless, corrupt, inept, thieving cANCer "government" crying about this very real tragedy? You hatefull corrupt beings.

  • Pulverturm - 2012-05-24 14:10


  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-05-24 14:14

    While the Nation's attention is being diverted by this pathetic display of nonsense, parliament has just voted to gift Cuba with over 300million rands of tax payers money, unconditionally. With a majority of only one single vote decided by the chairperson. WTF is going on in South AFrica, surely the government ANC-eletists are clearly out of order. We need to take note people if we don't this is going to bring dire consequences to our shores.

      frenchjoubert - 2012-05-25 08:42

      This is exactly the way the "government" works. They give away or frivolously spend money on the one hand and want to introduce new taxation on the other aka the infamous toll gantries. It is time that the people of South Africa en masse stand up and denounce this inept government and vote people into power that are for the people and by the people.

  • Mark - 2012-05-24 14:16

    Oh come on, this is already a circus and now the idiots are turning it into a soapie. Next we'll have the wives and children in court also crying. Please, spare us this crap - there really are important things in the country to attend to, like is anybody actually in charge of the country? They better beware - whilst they're all crying in court Zim, or Lesotho, or even Israel may attack and find us with our pants down. Hope Princess Sisulu is at least in her war room.......

  • nathan.coetzee.39 - 2012-05-24 14:16

    Oh my hat. Is this story for real? We don't have to watch any Soap Operas on TV anymore. All we have to do is watch the proceedings of our political landscape. Bring on the popcorn please.

  • Leo - 2012-05-24 14:16

    @fani you clearly are a moron if you see the funny side of this racist neeoliberal so called artist. The advocate breaking down represents the yet unhealed pain about the past in this country. It is time we said No!! to this liberal eurocentric constitution that seeks to turn this country into a mini Europe. I get mad when whites want to impose their cultural values on us and want us to accept so called freedom of speech when they insult the blackman. Remember S. Bartman they displayed her in a zoo. I say this is Africa and you dont use porno insult as art and if you dont like it YOU ARE FREE TO LEAVE

      E - 2012-05-24 15:37

      Leo, you are free to leave too, and find your people's paradise somewhere else. Since the Constitution was written together by Mandela, Mbeki, De klerk, Ramaphosa, Meyer, etc, etc, and approved by all of them, the whole democratically-elected black-majority Parliament, in 1996 - two years after 1994, please explain to us why now suddenly it is not acceptable to you? Can't handle the true implications of "everyone is equal", can you? (I.e, if blacks are equal to whites, that means that whites are equal to blacks.)

      Herman - 2012-05-24 16:10

      Leo go and suck a SPEAR you moron. Always crying for sympathy when you are exposed as unable to govern the country.

      frenchjoubert - 2012-05-25 08:53

      Leo, this is so typical of the "previously disadvantaged" black citizens of our beloved country. The moment anything is not to your liking you jump on the proverbial "racist donkey", which by the way has such a hollow back now that it's stomach is dragging on the ground. Please snap out of this "feel sorry for us poor blacks" syndrome and make something of yourselves. There are opportunities for all to had in our country as long as we have a government that have the prosperity and welfare of all the citizens at heart.

  • Mark - 2012-05-24 14:17

    ANC lawyers behaving like ANC politicians...

  • Mtshezi Yonk'insipho Iyawasha Mkhize - 2012-05-24 14:17

    Then the Former Masters say it serves Zuma right to have been exposed like that, and others raise issues like Education n Health saying these need as much attention as "the Zuma painting" it's not that this is a matter of national importance per se. It's really about the liberty white people enjoy to evn go as far painting a democratically elected President's private part, If Zuma deserves such treatment, Don't White people deserve to be ill-treated for the wrong of the past? Coz what m gathering is that this serves Zuma right, based on his past actions, What would serve White people right based on their past actions? Abelungu Bayachwensa....Whites are rude!!!!

      Tax - 2012-05-24 14:23

      What about all the good stuff the whites gave you? Jobs, hospitals, universities etc etc etc.....

      kaspaas.breekwater - 2012-05-24 14:48

      Mtshezi - If you say "Whites are rude" then I can say "blacks are criminal/stupid/lazy" ??. Will it be fair to you if I generalize you without knowing you, or maybe generalize all black people based on the wrongs the minority of blacks are doing ???? Be carefull not to generalize - it might give away your IQ.

      Felix - 2012-05-24 15:14

      Each man must answer for his own transgressions, not the crimes committed by people in the past who look the same as them. If what you believe is true there are a few Hottentots(Khoi) and Bushmen(San) that would like a word with you.

      Beertjie Peertjie - 2012-05-24 23:58

      Dude, everybody enjoys the liberty to draw the president's private parts. Even u. The fact that you won't is another thing of course. I'm sure many white people that share this liberty with u would also refrain from doing it. So what, if it is the democratically elected president. Chris Rock has called former president bush stupid in one of his shows. Bush was still in office at the time. Of course, I'm sure that a few of these whites are just stupid racists while many are not. Don't you become one of the racist blacks by making dumb general statements. I guess you're angry though.

      Beertjie Peertjie - 2012-05-25 00:00

      Oh, mr tax, don't talk rubbish. Stop talking about what whites gave. What did u give? Probably nothing. I like how you hide behind a cloud of white. Why don't you highlight the things you've done? Moron.

  • collen.masetla - 2012-05-24 14:18

    that painting is insult please...but zuma still not fit for office. i saw him at NUM conference, he said he knows what he is doing. this man thinks he knows what he is doing but we all see he don't know. people question your leadership after spending so long in office? something might be wrong somewhere, remember the fire and smoke story

  • neels.swart.7 - 2012-05-24 14:21

    This time he is going to wet his pants in front of this white judge HaHaHaHa

      Beertjie Peertjie - 2012-05-24 23:47

      What's wrong with you?

  • Enlight - 2012-05-24 14:29

    You all sit around this bonfire, drinking indulgently from a common soiled cup, belching the rot you were fed by your forefathers who amassed all for your insatiable desire of comfort at the expense of the common man, who, as you tap each other's shoulders in wild laughter and jest, sharing your false convictions, he stands on the periphery, unable to cast his opinion on these matters making you foolhardy believe, in these groups, you make sense.

      Felix - 2012-05-24 15:18

      I like how all you young punks think you identify with some kind of struggle as the good old common man. You are online and have a basic education hence you are in the top 20% of this country retards.

  • Rob - 2012-05-24 14:46

    Be careful, very careful. Sympathy, polarises Ridicule polarises and opens you up to accusations of extreme racism. Forces the question, is it a deliberate ploy, the real CRY WOLF

  • Ronnie - 2012-05-24 14:49

    Fani be careful white people are always racist only because we are white.Melusi will soon label you

  • thapelo.makgale - 2012-05-24 15:06

    I dont hate white people, i just hate white supremacy.

      Felix - 2012-05-24 15:19

      I don't care what colour you are, arrogance and incompetence are a lethal mixture.

  • Mhla - 2012-05-24 15:06

    The RACIAL comments u make in this platform can easly result into a serious riot . . . I wouldnt be suprised if tommorow we see a serious /shocking headlines about A MAN HAS WIPED OUT 12 . . . MEN OVER RACIAL COMMENTS

      Felix - 2012-05-24 15:20

      If you can't handle the internets, rather play sports.

      frenchjoubert - 2012-05-25 09:12

      Mhla, it is exactly your type of thinking that would incite a riot or force a narrow minded person to go and indiscriminately kill a lot of innocent people. This is an open platform and everyone has the right to freedom of speech, as ensconced in the constitution. If you can't handle criticism then don't read the comments. Please open your mind and see it for what it is. It doesn't mean that I necessarily agree with all the comments (from both black and white respondents) but they are after all just an expression of opinion of the individuals. We have to stop coloring every issue in this country either black or white. Its been 18 years since all race elections and "apartheid" has been assigned to history. Its a new age with new challenges and one in which everyone should determine their own future through hard work and being industrious. The opportunities are there for all to grasp.

  • Ben - 2012-05-24 15:14

    Advocate FAIL! Poor guy. Must be rough going up against something like Freedom of Expression in one of the most liberal democratic nations in the world. He needed Denny Crane!

  • batlilemalik.ramasodi - 2012-05-24 15:23

    Let all true anc members boycott city press until they remove dat pic

      Ben - 2012-05-24 15:45

      the pic is defaced already. The untouched pic is ALL over the world via internet and news agencies. Banning it is no longer an option. That's why the case is useless. Nobody would have known about the pic if ANC kept quiet. Now with all their noise the whole world knows and laughs...

      frenchjoubert - 2012-05-25 09:19

      Batlile, are you really so small minded???? This is the workings of "freedom of speech and expression" in a modern democratic society. What you are "advocating" (no pun is to take away this right. Be careful what you wish for bro as it might just blow up in your face.

  • Nick - 2012-05-24 15:26

    Publicity stunt !

  • Kingpin - 2012-05-24 15:49

    This court case is really not necessary - it just cost us money for nothing

  • E - 2012-05-24 15:50

    Strange that there have not been any comments yet here linking this to the "dubula-i-bhunu" song. Dignity; privacy; stereotyping; prejudice; 'freedom-of-expression'; if you grant it to one, you have to grant it to all. Tell me, did Mr JZ actually posed for the painting? If not, then it is a figment of the artist's imagination. In which case, it is not really Zuma. In which case, methinks he doth protest too much. What is he & the party trying to distract the voting cattle's attention from? Atrocious service delivery? Free gifts to Cuba? Crony hands in the public purse? Tenderpreneurs gobbling from the public trough? Fatcats slurping on the gravy train? Nah, surely we can trust them not to do that ...! ;b

  • Sarina - 2012-05-24 16:10

    I think the painting is an insult, whether its zuma or not. Imagine someones grandkids having to see a picture like that!!

      frenchjoubert - 2012-05-25 09:23

      O Sarina, how small minded you are. So in your opinion all nude paintings of the past should be destroyed...even though some are now considered to works of art??????

  • Aidan Berry - 2012-05-24 16:59

    I'm glad my taxes are going towards a painting and not some homeless kid. I expect someone to bitch and moan that it's not just a painting and it's a bla, bla, bla!!

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