Zuma calls in army, where needed

2012-09-20 13:10

Johannesburg - The SA National Defence Force has officially been deployed domestically from 14 September until next year in Marikana "and other areas of the country where needed", the presidency said on Thursday.

The presidency said in a short statement that the soldiers would be deployed to support the police "in the prevention and combating of crime as well as the maintenance of law and order in the Marikana area, North West province and other areas around the country where needed."

Presidency spokesperson Mac Maharaj did not specify, other than Marikana, where the military would be deployed to, except to say they would go to areas where they are needed to combat crime.

He said Cape Town, where the military were deployed last year, was one of the areas under consideration.

"It's based on the pattern of crime incidents in the festive season period," Maharaj said.

The deployment to Marikana was needed because "there had been some problems too" in the area.

"The police have had to attend to it. Wherever they need to have support [from SANDF], that support will remain available," Maharaj said.

He emphasised that while the military would support police, "the primary function would remain in the hands of the police".

The deployment would last from 14 September until 31 January 2013.

  • DJPotifar - 2012-09-20 13:16

    And yet he did not deploy them in Mitchel's plain where they are also quite clearly needed.

      Billy - 2012-09-20 13:19

      i think they did eventually get assigned to assist the police in mitchells plain dude. must feel good for these guys to be used for something again too, even if it is assisting civilian law enforcement.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-09-20 13:20

      My thought exactly - good enough to use on protesters but not good enough to take out gangs... where are his priorities?

      wendy.craig.9655 - 2012-09-20 13:27

      That's because he does not want to aid Zille in any way - he would rather have the Western Cape look as if it cannot control the gangs than step in and help.

      Desilusionada - 2012-09-20 13:28

      Because he should not be the president? It is a toss up if he or the fat chicken in my neighbour's backyard will make Xmas.......

      Billy - 2012-09-20 13:29

      am i missing something? im pretty sure i read an article in the end that said they would assist the police in the cape.. cant find the article though, was i dreaming??

      nadia.graf.50 - 2012-09-20 13:49

      @tsotsibaby it seems as if everything grew but your brain! Gangs are killing children in the crossfire and it certainly needs some serious intervention.

      denise.herbst.5 - 2012-09-20 15:07

      totsibaby - us white people would LOVE a democracy - what we have at the moment is not a democracy but an Ineptocracy. And NO-ONE, black or white, should be happy under that!

      sanda.mnyazi - 2012-09-20 15:37

      And he couldn't send soldiers to a bunch of 17 year old's in Hanover Park.

      sanda.mnyazi - 2012-09-20 15:39

      Develyn you also loved apartheid........ make up your mind

      sb.prins1 - 2012-09-20 15:41

      @busisiwe.kubeka1 come say that to my face!!!!!!!

      0001000ghost - 2012-09-20 16:33

      @Stanman I'm with you man. Well said.

      1amAlan - 2012-09-20 17:41

      Busisiwe, children, you frikkin moron, are caught in the cross fire and are being targeted to send messages in turf wars.

  • mc.segal.5 - 2012-09-20 13:16

    Amazing No articles on Malema today. whats wrong news 24 eets broken??

      Dave - 2012-09-20 13:33

      ssshhhhhhhhh......lets sleeping dogs lie

      tw2066 - 2012-09-20 17:38

      His mate who works there is off sick today.

  • Michael - 2012-09-20 13:25

    It's amazing how Zuma can deploy the army to Marikana , but heaven forbid Helen Zille asks for them to be deployed in the Cape Flats to prevent violence.

      beki.khumalo - 2012-09-20 13:31

      Micheal you can't read neh! Now read: \in the prevention and combating of crime as well as the maintenance of law and order in the Marikana area, North West province and other areas around the country where needed. The deployment will last from 14 September until 31 January 2013.\ AND OTHER AREAS AROUND THE COUNTRY WHERE NEEDED!!!

      beki.khumalo - 2012-09-20 13:42

      SAPS's Vish Naidoo has just confirmed now that the Cape Flats are part of this crime prevention operation. Criticise only when necessary and with facts!

      clint.rusford.3 - 2012-09-20 13:42

      uhm beki... Would it hav been so hard 4 them 2 add western cape 2 the statement period.. Other areas can b freaking n e wer in the country.. Its nt a concise and clear statement and only a foolish one wud just asume western or eastern cape is defnitly covered.. U say READ proply.. Wel im saying THINK proply!

      sandy.sutherland.58 - 2012-09-20 13:46

      @Beki.khumalo - we CAN read, obviously you cannot or have short term memory - it was requested and denied - Showerhead is VERY clearly protecting his and other cronies interests in this case!

      gerhard.debruijn - 2012-09-20 13:48

      @beki.khumalo. Today is 20 September 2012. We have seen F@CKALL in the Cape Yet. Obviously then, according to him it is not needed. Oh You Genius You!!! are all ANC supporters as thick as you? Sorry, I fortgot. They are, otherwise they would not support the ANC!!!

      Pieter Minnie - 2012-09-20 13:53

      dont worry,now zille can deployed the miitery veterans of the sakk units,speak up zille

      beki.khumalo - 2012-09-20 13:56

      The statement from the Presidency is clear, the president has now approved deployment of the army to all areas in the country where needed. Or do you Cape Townians think you're not part of the country? Micheal on other says the president hasn't deployed the army to the Cape Flats, which part of the statement from the president's office did you not understand? Is it not a simple statement? When the army will arrive at the Cape Flats is an operational issue, it doesn't mean they have been excluded. And for the insults for an ANC member, I'm not phased at all!

      clint.rusford.3 - 2012-09-20 14:17

      yet beki i clearly see u hiding behind the 'al areas where needed in country' portion..well im sure the army was needed wen asked 4 da cape and im pretty sure they were needed the otha tymz they were requestd 2 intervene.. Can u at least tel me y al of the sudden nw in septembr are we as a country truly in need? Wat cud hav tipped the scale pls tel...

      sb.prins1 - 2012-09-20 15:45

      @beki....sound like Julius Malema, you confusing yourself, before long fiction will become fact for you

      p.borchard - 2012-09-20 16:16

      beki - when Mrs Zille requested exactly this help 2 months ago, showerhead shot it down, remember? Maybe you were having a love-in with Juliaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaas at the time and wasn't aware of what was happening in the rest of South Africa.

  • jan.human - 2012-09-20 13:25

    For a change they are working for their salary...

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-09-20 13:25

    I don't have a problem with this, we need law and order. Go Proteas!

  • koos.v.merwe.5 - 2012-09-20 13:27

    This is a bad move. The army's role is to defend the country in the case of a war or other threat from outside its borders. They are not trained in the same way as the police and could only lead to further trouble. But, this is SA, where seemingly anything goes nowadays.

      brian.ocinneide.7 - 2012-09-20 14:37

      Bring back the Commandos.

      chilli.stephenson1 - 2012-09-20 15:25

      well koos, at least this way they will get a bit of on hands training and action1 Shame man, they are just sitting around otherwise! let them get involved. They need it!

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-09-20 16:00

      You are quite right Koos, but in a country as screwed up as ours, Banana Republic decisions/tactics are becoming necessary. It's a clear sign of the downward spiral - hold on tight.

  • sharon.truebodyvice - 2012-09-20 13:29

    Oh and when WC asked for the army to help Zoom Zoom turned us down....WHY????? because he wanted the WC to be ungovernable ,,,,,,,stupid A that he is

  • Judy - 2012-09-20 13:31

    If You dont use them you may end up losing them. He who has the might wins in Africa. There ia a lot of power struggles going on behind the scenes, I doubt if we know the half of it.

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-09-20 16:01

      Dead right.

  • attie.mostert.9 - 2012-09-20 13:31

    Really, a tad bit to late for it now :)

  • reveng21 - 2012-09-20 13:33

    If it was about protecting the people then the army would have been used to control the violent gangs, drug lords, murderers and rapists terrorising the people of this nation. This is all about what's hurting the comrades pockets!

      fussed.anderson - 2012-09-20 14:43

      Gangs know how to use firearms, the army still need to be trained

  • Dave - 2012-09-20 13:34

    Never know, they might be deployed to protect the gantries now

  • trevor.barnard.58 - 2012-09-20 13:36

    its all a ploy to help the goverment when they reinstate the E-TOLL so when Cosatu have a massive strike against it. the SANDF are there to assist....He is just using marikane as a scapegoat....

  • AmbercrestBB - 2012-09-20 13:39

    That picture must be very old! It still shows a white guy in uniform....

      altusvanzyl - 2012-09-20 13:41

      Your comment must be really old. Wtf dude?

  • liz.rudy.3 - 2012-09-20 13:46

    So they will deploy the Army to Marikana to assist the Police - but they are not willing to deploy the Army in the Western Cape to deal with Gang Violence which has cost more lives. Go figure!

  • linda.nzimamazibuko - 2012-09-20 13:47

    Only needed to protect Pres Zuma interest, how about deploying them in the CAPE as per DA's request. I hate politics(just a dirty game played by fools)

  • jasonwarnerza - 2012-09-20 13:49

    State of emergency anyone?

      BigChiefPlumbPudding - 2012-09-20 16:02

      Yes - coming soon.

  • akshar.sookraj - 2012-09-20 13:52

    A waste off the tax payers money Deploying Just Fire These Idiots and lets move on...

  • Terry Charl Marks - 2012-09-20 13:54

    we wont have war with other african countries. because they want money and it will cost to much to go to war . now the soldiers are working for there money and let see if any thing change's

  • rudivanderryst - 2012-09-20 13:56

    I think this is great news. We are using the resource we as tax payers are paying for. The more people we have fighting crime the better. I think this is a step in the right direction. If this whole exercise stops one murder from happening it’s been worth our while. Yes the ANC has is selectively using this in high risk area’s but this should at least be a first step in exercising our Army boys to combat crime. And believe me I’m not an ANC supporter.....if anything.......

      Henchman Monco - 2012-09-20 16:05

      @rudivanderryst you are the only person that wrote something which make sense in this column

  • pmalungana - 2012-09-20 14:04

    As long as they do not use life ammunition in combarting crime

      mike.dufham.7 - 2012-09-20 15:30

      "life ammunition"? "combarting crime"? 2010/11 matriculant?

  • conrad.marshall - 2012-09-20 14:09

    it never ends well, wherever an Army is called in to police it's citizens.....

  • graeme.aitken.545 - 2012-09-20 14:17

    "IT'S A STATE OF EMERGENCY"..stop fooling yourself. Mines have cancelled expansion plans and investors are pulling out of South Africa faster than Zuma can pull down his Zip at an African orgy. Pantsi South Africa Pantsi...bye bye.

  • leonard.rom.7 - 2012-09-20 14:19

    atleast there will be law and order good for you MR ZUMA

  • Goodstuff - 2012-09-20 14:20

    @tsotsibaby - irrational drivel, must be a Malemar. The Western Cape is the only working democracy in SA. Are you from LIMPopo?

  • kirsten.eadie.5 - 2012-09-20 14:25

    Too little, too late!

  • kirsten.eadie.5 - 2012-09-20 14:26

    Too little, too late

  • samantha.5243 - 2012-09-20 14:42

    Well I seriously hope they are deployed to the game parks to help curb the poaching- they should have been sent there a long time ago-

      jacques.smit - 2012-09-20 15:23

      thats already happened on a few game reserves.. :)

  • brian.ocinneide.7 - 2012-09-20 14:46

    He is getting ready to clamp down if he loses in Mangaung.

  • puleng.choma - 2012-09-20 14:50

    So mr zuma cuts down criminal sentences and deploys the question is, was de 1st move makin way 4 2nd move??

  • zimbobwe.mugabe - 2012-09-20 14:50

    Why deploy now because the war in marikana is over??? Zille asked for the soldiers but the president declined trying to cover up his stupidity of not seeing the obvious. He thought people will take him as an idiot if she listen to Zille but the madam is always right and the only credible politician in Mzansi. Driekop is so pathetic it's now becoming a joke and we know who is running the country = Mac Maharaj.

  • OmegaFenix22 - 2012-09-20 14:53

    'There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.' Admiral Adama

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-09-20 15:05

    Who a rascist m*****f***** now?!? Now that there is a problem in the black area and black people getting killed the army gets deployed. What about gangs killing innocent kids in the WC?

  • nadineelvina.francis - 2012-09-20 15:07

    Ja well a bit too late don't you think ?

  • robert.doyle.712 - 2012-09-20 15:33

    STATE OF EMERGENCY - Has officialy begun. Braaivleis, Rugby, Sunny Skies and Chevrolet not feeling so great anymore lol.

  • sb.prins1 - 2012-09-20 15:39

    Wasnt Helen Zille asking for the same thing and Minister Nathi Mthethwa said no. The local SAPS must deal with the problem, but now the can send the army coz Zuma said so, hmmmmmmm, Nathi me thinks you are a idiot clearly, thumbs down for you.

  • mzondistanley - 2012-09-20 16:05

    Wellcome Develipment!! People should be free to go about their Businesses without fear or Intimidation!! The World is going through a difficult Econommic Phase, Food Prices have gone up and that mean more Hungry mouths out there needing to be fed!! The Law of deminished returns dictates that a Hungry person is prone to being a thief (shop lifting and also a naturally Angry person). So this is a step in the right direction!!

  • richard.m.morema - 2012-09-20 16:26

    The main reason Zuma want to Deploy the Soldiers we all know, he think is clever he is looking forward to ANC Conference in Mangaung in December. beacuse he is against new idears from youth League this Mamapara President.

  • richard.m.morema - 2012-09-20 17:04

    He failed to deploy the soldiers when Madam Hellen Zille ask you to deploy soldiers at Cape town for the Gangs Shooting there last Month.just because it was DA asking for Soldiers you choose to avoid the request from DA.Is true that you only serve the interest of your family in Ingadla as Malema Said weeks ago only New York City of Kwazulu Natal. shame on you Mr President.

  • LynneOeschger - 2012-09-20 17:11

    As an ex-Zimbo - I can safely say this is like deja vu.

  • ivan.goodman.77 - 2012-09-20 18:12

    As Zuma said \the majority has more rights than minority\ when the DA wanted the soldiers In cape town they said no,cause the people of western cape voted for DA. they do not benefit the rights of the majority. Zuma is using the army to fight his fights. I so hope they can replace him in December or else MUGABE no 2.

  • justin.massyn - 2012-09-20 18:15

    "there had been some problems too" you say Mac old boy. Is that how you see it? I need some of what you are smoking, seriously, you are living in a dreamland.

  • Skwertno1 - 2012-09-20 18:54

    Does it mean he might need them in Bloemfontein in early December 2012?

  • vaadvisor.tyaz - 2012-09-20 19:24

    I differ in opinion with most of the comments here (& plz allow me to be different). I think this a decision in the right direction, taking the situation on the ground, its very necessary. And yes this should be replicated to ALL AREAS where its necessary, including the Cape Well about the DA request, I think they were more on politics than on need for a solution, hence Zuma said NO. DA knows better that to blow the trampet with media 1st before you present yo case/plea be4 those in power. Make them see things from the angle where you are coming from, respecting the protocols and channels in place. Besides, this issue was not an over night thing. It brewed over time. So the DA were right to ask for military intervention by not for political mileage (though they could have used it later on as a bonus). They shouldnt have quickly taken it to the media & press but to the government. Im not for Zuma, neither im I for DA. Just someone siting on terraces, watching with a keen but neutral eye on how politics is being played.

  • bongane.zwane.948 - 2012-09-20 21:51

    This is done for our safety.

  • lenox.ntlantsana - 2012-09-21 12:57

    ABUSE OF RIGHTS OF THE POOR! Marikana situation didn't warrant Soldiers but top management and ANC shareholders, WC was denied of such right but WHY?

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