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Zuma comments cause canine chaos

2012-12-27 22:23

Johannesburg - It was a dog-eat-dog world on Twitter on Thursday as people argued over President Jacob Zuma's comments that caring for a pet dog was part of "white" culture.

While a flurry of users seemed indignant that Zuma didn't name Jock of the Bushveld his favourite four-legged South African or ask Lassie to come home, many others agreed with the president's sentiments.

One user, YanelaJ, said Zuma's comments were accurate: "How many blacks vs whites do u c walking/running dogs..don't count domestic worker?"

Young Communist League spokesperson Khaya Xaba tweeted that a "rich man's dog gets more in the way of vaccination, medicine and medical care than do the workers upon whom the rich man's wealth is built".

The Star reported on Thursday that Zuma, in a speech given at Impendle in KwaZulu-Natal, had said that spending money to buy a dog and taking it to the vet and for walks, belonged to "white" culture.

Zwelinzima Vavi tweets

He was also reported to have said that those who loved dogs more than people had "a lack of humanity".

The presidency later sent out a statement in which it explained that Zuma was only trying to "decolonise the African mind" with his statements.

Presidential spokesperson Mac Maharaj said that Zuma wanted "to enable the previously oppressed African majority to appreciate and love who they are".

Meanwhile on Twitter, Cosatu general secretary Zwelinzima Vavi tweeted a picture of himself with his Boerboel "Superhero" and his Jack Russell "Maradona".

Some tweeters gently suggested that "Superhero" was a bit on the chubby side, but Vavi reassured his followers that he has managed to get the Boerboel's weight down since the photograph was taken.

Vavi also mentioned that he had given ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe a puppy years ago. "He keeps dogs too," tweeted Vavi.

Nevertheless, Vavi said that he was not offended by Zuma's comments. "As an animal lover & proudly black I don't feel insulted by that comment - I do have compassion for humans too!!" However, internationally renowned author Zakes Mda refuted the essentialism behind Zuma's statement.

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"There are many ways of being African. Of being black even. Those who love animals are not less African than those who don't."

Journalist Reuben Goldberg suggested that South Africans buy Zuma a dog "and name it #Nkandla".

Even "Bazil the Bulldog" gave his opinion into the matter, tweeting: "Zuma needs a history check, as the Africanis breed of dogs have been the companions of Southern Africa's San Bushmen since 800 AD..."

Ayanda Mlotshwa questioned Zuma's linking of race and dog ownership, stating: "I'm black & I love my dog. He's part of my family. We've always had dogs in my family. Can't imagine life without them."

A number of people also tweeted an old photograph of former president Nelson Mandela beaming alongside a jubilant canine companion.

The Christian Democratic party sent out a statement in which they said it appeared from his remarks that Zuma's second term would be "even more sectarian and divisive" than his first.

"This playing up of one culture against another, describing them, not as different, but rather that one has superior moral values to the other, is totally unacceptable and counterproductive," said party leader Theunis Botha.

Comments
  • debduplessis - 2012-12-27 22:37

    Oh boy .... the presidential spokesman is going to have tough time in 2nd term trying to prevent & do damaged control on Zuma's foolish outlook & comments --- get out the popcorn, this lot is going to be a hoot!

      lownabester - 2012-12-27 22:47

      Obviously to much to drink over the holidays too, bloody moron.

      michael.bushes.1 - 2012-12-27 22:59

      What I have noticed is that these ANC members always say something stupid or controversial, perhaps to take the focus off of their own incompetence and corruption. People, lets start ignoring these stupid statements, and lets keep on hammering these ANC criminals on corruption, incompetence and mismanagement of the country, its the only way for us to keep the focus on it.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-12-27 23:05

      Yup, he has lost the plot completely. He needs to go to a 'dog' show sometime and see the marvellous 'black' people with their dogs. A pet is a pet if you are not too selfish to feed an 'dumb' animal.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-12-27 23:06

      he seems however, to like alll the other 'white' things???

      boom.afridi.56 - 2012-12-27 23:12

      it is a fact though, i can't remember seeing a black man walking around with a dog unless he was a policeman.

      sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-12-27 23:24

      er..."They would rather sleep with a dog, wash a dog than to do the same with a black person..." If I employ a black person and I am paying them a salary, why should I support them too? Thats asking to have your bread butter on both sides. I have my own family to feed thanks and having the luxury of owning a pet is my own choice. Of course I will love the pet and take care of it. I chose to take it in and care for it. It is not part of my culture to care for someone elses family. I was taught that everyone has a responsibility to care for themselves and their own family.

      michangel.justice - 2012-12-27 23:39

      oh boy oh boy oh boy. zuma & mac has truly become the destructive voices of the anc. evry1 is banned from making public media statements about madiba and now dogs. next on the agenda is them exclusively reporting about rhino and white farmer killings. o showerhead is becoming like the egyptian king morsi .

      sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-12-27 23:54

      At least they get employment and a salary. It's better than what Zuma has done.

      dean.oswell.1 - 2012-12-28 00:03

      QUite,... funny bebduplesis; kodwa.. what concerns me is @Themba.Maseko 's comment. I can imagine there are those abalungu, who, as he correctly says..may have such a sad and pathetic and distorted view.. However, consolation mate; it's a minority ~ kancane .. What is it that has T.Maseko under such an impression?? Also; as to 'caring more about humans' (ubuntu), why THE lack of caring when SO many children; near-all abantu, yabona Themba, sadly.. are left unattended at public pools and beaches (dropped by their 'caring??' parents, who drive off often in their Mercedes). Ngiyahleka?, Cha, I am serious, just asking Maseko also this: have you EVER heard of a black person on earth adopting a white child,...have you *often honestly?' heard and seen the converse? Think, Themba..ngiyacela; fethu. Answer please @Themba Maseko

      digger.dighead - 2012-12-28 02:29

      Themba you are perfect example of a black person with a chip on his shoulder...no sorry a log on his shoulder. Pathetic, get over who you are and just accept it. I know you are just dying to be white, but you're not. Love who you are and accept other people for who they are....

      aniken.vader.31 - 2012-12-28 02:53

      aaaaaand yet again zuma and cANCer focuses on things that are so childish I can't even begin to comment on. While his canine endeavor rages on, here is an AFRICAN thing that would do ANY african proud of: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-20850778 This african congolese man has managed to design and supply the first african model of a smart phone and a tablet. I would say that even though it is a white man's thing to do, I am PROUD of what this man has achieved! These bafoons from the cANCer institute are just destroying this opportunity called South Africa.

      eduard.homes - 2012-12-28 03:18

      JZ is a chop!!! A lot of times you can rate a nation on how well it looks after people, animals, environment. Obviously JZ cares about nothing but himself.

      gerald.nchabeleng - 2012-12-28 05:28

      to be different and to prefer one's own oisn't racist. I am black but I feel I must ask one pertinent question, why does it feel like black people want affirmation for whites? What is so wrong with a whitey loving their dog more than a darkie? It's not a race issue, that dog becomes part of a family. I have dogs, near where I live there is a beggar, who is white, I have never given him a single cent or even a crumb of bread, when I drive past I wind my windows up and ensure I look straight ahead, I buy my rottie and puck food, wash them and exercise them, yes, clearly I love my dogs more than I 'love' this man, correction, I don't love this man, not that I hate him, I just don't .... Does that make me racist, I don't think so at all. I just find black people sometimes to want so much from whites,, re themba.maseko and shamay's exchange. Why care whether a whitey would show more affection to a dog?

      brandon.mccutcheon.56 - 2012-12-28 06:11

      JZ should rather not speak in public again. Everytime he does, he always ends up in deep waters.

      carpejugulim - 2012-12-28 06:57

      wait for it ... they are going to issue a statement that zipper has been misquoted ... again

      fanie.viljoen.73 - 2012-12-28 08:08

      For sure, I thought we were lost after Peter Div and Julius left the public domain, but wait, Mr President will now keep us on the edge of our seats. Can't wait for his next "marvel of life"

      pieter.bester - 2012-12-28 08:12

      I don't understand all the fuss? Any circus needs a clown. He has to look funny, act stupid and say funny things. I have never heard of an intelligent clown. And in fact normally the clown is treated like a dog in the circus. I guess the shoe fits.

      willem.dupreez.501 - 2012-12-28 09:21

      Themba, "They would rather sleep with a dog, wash a dog than to do the same with a black person...", makes you think doesnt it?

      popza.nzama - 2012-12-28 09:58

      Lownabester do not be deceived.Africans love you too.You look like crying.

      grant.callaway.50 - 2012-12-28 10:54

      Here's a nice simple way to put things, Mr Zuma: If you feel that it is okay to equate BEING black with a certain way of living, then you are categorically stating that anybody who does not like that particular way of living is entitled to dislike all blacks (as according to you, they are one in the same). You are a fool!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:10

      Themba Maseko. 568 You want us to wash and sleep with black people?.Why?.

      ray.syst - 2012-12-28 11:16

      Who are the real racists? http://www.facebook.com/pages/The-Real-Racists/377566888998836

      nasheenar - 2012-12-28 12:17

      What does culture and race have to do with loving an animal. Yes go ahead and promote hatred towards animals too. Now we will have more animals dying in the townships. Thank you oh clever one.

      carl.h.witte - 2012-12-28 12:25

      got a rescue dog from SPCA its name is Zuma....will probably mount everything in the neighborhood...

      jennifer.d.martin.750 - 2012-12-28 12:30

      Sorry but Zumas 'africanway' is not a very happy one, unless you're him or one of his family... A sad little man who treats people even worse than I treat my dogs.

      rob.bancroft.94 - 2012-12-28 15:31

      What is the matter with these guys? A worker gets wages, so he can get his own vaccinations and medicine and knows where to go for medical care. Is a dog able to do this? If a dog accidently rocks up at a vet, will the vet take care of him? If it is white culture to look after a dog, does that mean blacks do not look after their pets? So what is he trying to say, blacks must not look after their pets. Has he nothing better to talk about? When one thinks about it, no, he doesn't.

      heathway.master - 2012-12-28 16:37

      It is a primitive and wild mind that is unable to show love towards pets. Love of pets is only possible once a culture has reached a certain level of development, civilization and empathy. This has been proved irrevocably by world research. As the well-worn saying goes, “A dog is a man’s best friend” Also he never bites the hand that feeds him. Only those in complete self-denial, who cannot face the truth, will report this comment. It is a general comment, and not aimed at anyone.

      heathway.master - 2012-12-28 18:29

      For the first time, I am actually starting to agree with Zuma. The white race and its attitudes and values are no longer acceptable to the blacks of this country. Due to this unanimous feeling, all whites must immediately stop paying any tax to a Government that no longer respects anything about their behaviour patterns and culture. All white doctors, professionals, and financiers should also only start associating with kith and kin, who are more able to tolerate the way they think. I have noticed that generally when a black man has approached me, it is mostly to ask for money. This is only my experience, and may not be the case with anyone else. My answer will just be so much easier to give. Please do not report this comment as purely racial, as it is only my simple personal interpretation of what Zuma is trying to get at.

      heathway.master - 2012-12-28 18:33

      This is exactly the same imbecilic bulls**t preached by that moron Malema. As they say, the apple never falls far from the tree. What a disgrace and a total embarrassment to the rest of the world, that this is the mighty President of South Africa. How this man ever was re-elected, only the ANC inner circle can explain, as it mystifies all thinking South Africans.

      hein.huyser - 2012-12-29 12:20

      Desperate times need desperate measures. This was JZ's attempt to stay relevant, but I'm afraid Africa has passed him by

  • christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-27 22:41

    The tail wagging the dog! Is being President not also a bit "white"? It is not part of the "African" culture is it?

      mduduzi.sambo2 - 2012-12-27 23:07

      Leave the president alone he was making a comment of wich he was right to voice he's thoughts

      sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-12-27 23:14

      Its no problem when you voice your opinion and you are an ordinary person. When you are president however, you have to think before you speak. He swore an oath when he took office to uphold and protect the rights and cultures of everyone in SA, black and white. He cant just go around saying inflammatory things about white culture. It is clearly something he understands very little about.

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-27 23:15

      Honey, and I was making a comment exercising that very right you are talking about. And considering it is my tax money keeping his "white" lifestyle alive, I think I might even have more of a right to "voice" my opinion.

      eduard.homes - 2012-12-28 03:32

      @mduduzi.sambo2 JZ is a joke.....he cannot make a decision, he is wasting valuable time and because he is a leader of a questionable party (currently)...the ANC..... and now you want to defend a fool making stupid comments. When you wrong you are wrong, when you right you are right...simple. JZ seems to be wrong all the time and you guys(fans and supporters of the ANC do not want to see it, because toy are either blind with bias or uneducated. your thoughts?

      jacques.stander - 2012-12-28 10:48

      @Sambo2........your a joke !!!!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:28

      Mduduzi.sambo2. Voice his thoughts? Do you think that is wise?

  • jonnomeister - 2012-12-27 22:41

    Zuma should immediately rid himself of colonial artifacts such as German cars, running water, Italian shoes and suits. Lets not mention helicopters and presidential jets. He's just another capitalist colonial slave master. Shame on him!

      boom.afridi.56 - 2012-12-27 23:10

      oh please man, stop whining and go a country where you respect the leadership. why stick around in this place?

      rob.prestwich - 2012-12-28 00:26

      Perhaps he is a white/black. Mr Zuma wants to be a black/black but is in fact a black/white. White/whites must leave and black/blacks must be uneducated and poor and be told that is good for them, so the black/whites can be rich. White/blacks must be tested for neo-liberalism, just in case they are white/whites in disguise. Black/whites must learn the rules of the gravy train. That's it. In black and white!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:30

      jonnomeister, Condoms shouldn't be allowed either. Come to think of it that bullet proof glass is also white and foreign.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:31

      Boom. afridi.56. We are born here so have a right to stick around. You don't like it, move further up north.

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-28 12:03

      oom.kaspaas.5, that's not a white guy; that's a pic of Shahid (Boom Boom) Afridi, an Indian cricketer.

      jmlongwe - 2012-12-29 20:48

      People are delusional to think the white man made everything in this world. Civilization started in Africa (Egypt/Nubia-from Ethiopia/Sudan) No white man lived there. You where all brainwashed to think otherwise. This means the rule of law, mathematics, agriculture, marriage etc were created by Africans. I'm not saying the whole of Africa had these great civilizations, but your textbook never taught you that. We were taught with textbooks that claim that the white man discovered America, South Africa, Australia for crying out loud, whereas people lived there already, how much more evidence of a biased education do you need. If only I could discover your home and claim its mine that would be lekker.

      jmlongwe - 2012-12-29 20:48

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKGRSkVvzqk

  • sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-12-27 22:43

    Hope Mac has enough oil to grease his mouth. He's going to need it.

  • clement.mokone - 2012-12-27 22:43

    The ANC must do smthing to correct the president and movement. Really this is costing the organisation its membership and threaten our party's perfomance come 2014 elections. Zuma must step down.

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-27 22:49

      Clement, we actually want him to carry on. Whilst he is diluting the ANC, we can have a comedy show! As long as it is not at the expense of the people of the country (or the dogs:-))

      sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-12-27 22:49

      The first sense I've heard the whole day.

      rob.prestwich - 2012-12-27 23:11

      Don't think he can step down any further!

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-28 01:04

      Noooooo. Leave him there. I actually have to pick myself off the floor...... I think he's actually a undercover DA plant (plant-get it?!)

      sipho.mbuyazi.9 - 2012-12-28 05:36

      Clement, you need to understand that whites are not voting for the ANC but the DA and there its irrelevant what they think, however the President statement is true . We need to stop being apologetic about the way we feel and we see things, white care more for dogs than they treat and do for dogs.

      gerald.nchabeleng - 2012-12-28 05:36

      sorry Clement, methinks a wayward comment about the fair and the feline will do naught to dent the ANC membership

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:32

      Clement.mokone. You people voted for him, so enjoy the ride.

      lmeissen - 2012-12-28 11:45

      You are right mokone. South Africa needs a leader.

  • augustinesniper.gwaze - 2012-12-27 22:49

    sik dbet

      rob.prestwich - 2012-12-27 23:57

      dip hgin

      Johnny - 2012-12-28 02:42

      Seop Mod!

      surfing.sam.9 - 2012-12-28 04:07

      hik, hik, barf

      colin.dovey - 2012-12-28 08:55

      Will a "Woof" do here?

  • alananthonygreen - 2012-12-27 22:56

    Watch my dogs rip zuma to pieces. Yum...

  • pamela.g.quinton - 2012-12-27 22:58

    WooooooooooF!!!! WoooooooF!!!!!I want to be a dog.

  • brendon.lezar - 2012-12-27 23:01

    ANC have sent an SOS out instructing Zuma's speech writer to cancel the rest of his leave with immediate effect! And as I type this post, Zapiro sharpens his pencil with a wry smile lighting up his face...

  • sam.makua.10 - 2012-12-27 23:02

    Generally the tendency that was prevailing in the apartheid era is still there: a lot of black people still regard white culture as the object of black consumption! Zuma is appealing to blacks to stop hating themselves for who and what they are!

      sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-12-27 23:04

      repost.. some new material maybe?

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-27 23:09

      Sam, then he must say so! And yes, I agree, some black people still regard themselves lowly because of the dehumanising apartheid system, and I truly feel for them, but he will NEVER mend their lack of self-esteem by constantly throwing the black/white differences in. All he does is creating more hatred and division.

      rob.prestwich - 2012-12-27 23:15

      So, if you are black and wish to emulate white culture, then there is no need to hate yourself for what you are??

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-27 23:28

      @merick, "black consumption" is a different term for "foot and mouth disease" which Zuma and his sheep such as Sam infect South Africans with. Many people are sick tired of putting up with Zuma and his sheep sh***t, or to put it mildly, foot and mouth disease

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-27 23:39

      Themba, I just love seeing you back here!! You always make me smile:-)

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-28 00:58

      Your argument sounds a lot better than Mac's rubbish. Maybe they should you Mac's job?

      gerald.nchabeleng - 2012-12-28 05:49

      yep, agreed. Zuma is the champion role model on vanity

      rodneyvw - 2012-12-28 08:07

      LOL Sounds more like "foot IN mouth disease" than "foot AND mouth disease"

  • david.khasebe - 2012-12-27 23:03

    Before he decolonises the mind, Zuma must first learn to condomise, supervise and verbalise.

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-27 23:16

      whahaha David! I like that!

      jacowium - 2012-12-28 02:12

      David 1 Zuma 0

      TaniaSandraSteyn - 2012-12-28 05:24

      Words fail me...I am holding on to my rather prodigious stomach and howling with laughter. Spot on!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:36

      David.khasebe. That's telling him.

  • louwc - 2012-12-27 23:05

    I am amazed that people are amazed that this amazing person makes amazing comments! The people that really matter, i.e. the mass voting (poor and newly taken for another ride) public laps this up! So we might as well sit like hares in the lights and be amazed! No amount of rational ranting and raving on News 24 is going to change anything - you might as well give it a rest. Make an indignant comment about how wrong it is, then we can all sleep better (after we set them alarm, checked the locks and untied the Rottweiler)

      dean.oswell.1 - 2012-12-27 23:31

      Sadly Louw, 'all having been said and done' the following is true as to family-values... GO down to the beaches, I mean I might have an idea being lifeguarding since '1988',.. New YEAR's and other holidays especially - (Jacob Zuma let himself in for this) AND is it Whites who couldn't care about other humans, especially family..WHO aren't there to look after their kids; too many who drown or nearly so with NO parental care or presence, is it not his black brethren who seem to have forgotten their culture there and then(?) please..Mr President; check the drownings and near-drowning stats DO prove this so* .. ZUMA, lecture on this, explain please ..???* Oh, because MR Zuma; if what you say about ubuntu holds true, then why..? why the lack of care there..?

  • debbiewiblin - 2012-12-27 23:06

    well i prefer dogs to humans...they dont steal, lie or shoot...they love you unconditionally...i will rather feed a dog before a person....people can go an earn a living a dog cant...

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:38

      Debbiewiblin. Someone once said;"The more I get to know people, the more I love my dog". Isn't that the truth?.

      reg.nagel - 2012-12-28 13:06

      Debbie..They dont moan when I, have beer when I, come home late..!!! If for example if I,should lock my wife and my dog in the boot of the car and then open the boot who!!will be happiest to see me!!My dog man best friend,, they love my whole family unconditionally!!!

  • ferreira.charmaine - 2012-12-27 23:06

    Mr Zuma, this is not what we want to hear. No matter what culture or colour, everyone needs to care for an animal. I'm very disappointed, I never thought I would hear something like this come from your virgin mouth, but I'm wrong. Sir Zuma, do you not wear a Rolex watch and other that are not from your culture? If so please practice what you preach. No matter what your race or culture, if you have a pet let Mr Zuma see that it is spayed or inoculated. Mr Zuma have you ever had a pet like a dog or cat? He or she might just help you and guide you, a dog or cat's love cannot be bought, they love you unconditionally, whether they have been hurt or not they will always be by your side, however I don't know if I can say the same about you after having read this. Very sad!!!!!

  • craig.munro.50 - 2012-12-27 23:07

    I have to say though, that dogs are loyal.....

  • connie.malherbe - 2012-12-27 23:08

    So if had ten wifes with cars and houses what would Pres Zuma have to say?There is alot more to complain about than a dog mr. President

      jaco.pretorius.560 - 2012-12-28 09:02

      if you had 10 wives and cars ect...you will probably find that Mr. President will tax you higher. If you can afford to have all that, then this stupid president would think that we are all far better off than he had hoped and would try pulling us all down the rabit hole a little further. i dont think he would approve of that at all.

  • nel.westhuizen - 2012-12-27 23:11

    The greatness of a nation and it's moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated ~ Ghandi ~

      jacque.raymer - 2012-12-27 23:13

      Well said, butr I don't think Zuma or even half the black nation of this country even knows who Ghandi was ...

      tersia.louw.12 - 2012-12-28 12:07

      How soon it's been forgotten that Mahatma Ghandi played a huge part in the passive resistance movement in South Africa.

  • immanuell.mathekga - 2012-12-27 23:14

    Please, doesnt the presidency overlook the president's speech before he reads it to the public? Before the president is to be blamed, who wrote the speech for him? This is ridiculous. I blame the whole lot of them. Not just the president.

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-28 00:51

      Heh heh. I also blame the capitalist pigs who made the paper and the counter revolutionarys who built the printer! The oke who installed the mike should also be jailed!

      johan.kieser1 - 2012-12-28 07:40

      He certainly has every choice to read it or to reject it. Once he read it, it becomes his own speech. There is nothing to laugh about this. This is reality.

      paul.chick.501 - 2012-12-28 08:54

      Read the story in yesterdays Natal Mercury...the story is much more informative as to just exactly what zuma said and it is "disgusting" Mr Presidant you are a disgrace to South Africa and in the eye"s of the rest of the world

      popza.nzama - 2012-12-28 10:09

      Thula lencelebane le.

      paul.chick.501 - 2012-12-28 19:47

      popza...speak in inglish or your comment is worthless and erevalent

      phil.grahn - 2012-12-30 03:31

      I doubt he can read or write, for he did not attend school. This is the leader of SA, what an ignoramus.

  • abdul.cassiem.9 - 2012-12-27 23:14

    Ai Zuma still suffering from the after affects from your childhood bec pappie didn't want to get you a dog. Y oh Y do you open your mouth hey Zuma!!!!

  • raymond.buis.3 - 2012-12-27 23:16

    What a douche . Why is everything European vs African with this idiot. Owning a dog and caring for it does not make you European or African . So as far as I can see this is just another cheap political stunt by our down syndrome president. All he is doing is increasing the already high racial tension in the country. I wish he would suddenly suffer a massive stroke and drop dead, although if he survives said stroke he might come out smarter.

      popza.nzama - 2012-12-28 10:14

      In the second world war it was a source of food in Europe,especially in Germany.At the same time some people do n't just love dogs but are in love with them for sexual gratification.This is alien to African culture.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:43

      Akhunga.dachimp. Appropriate name there. Why do you people always start swearing at people you don't know?. I don't know how you are being raced everyday, are you a horse?.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:45

      Popza.nzama. Sexual gratification, food during the war?. Wow, What was that oke that was caught awhile ago having sex with a sheep?. He was as African as you can get. Bullocks to you.

      paul.chick.501 - 2012-12-28 20:17

      @popza..sorry but i think you talk a lot of bullsh#t..guess you have to say something to cover up for your race that is so continuley displaying its pathatic mindset

  • Erna - 2012-12-27 23:21

    How many people do you actually see with their dog in the front, the worker on the back of a bakkie and it is raining? I have never seen it! This is a huge generalisation.

      bongani.mtsweni.35 - 2012-12-27 23:27

      I have seen it and have experienced it.

      Ntombenhlez - 2012-12-27 23:37

      oooh yes I have seen it many times and the people who a doing that are the whites, they prefer a dog to sit at the front seat than a black person * Truth be told*

      Billy - 2012-12-28 01:08

      as a white guy, i have had to sit at the back too while the dog was sitting in front. because the dog would jump off the back and possibly bite people. stop being so stupid please, its not that difficult. really.

      Johnny - 2012-12-28 02:48

      Bongani, do you want to sit on the owners lap next time? He should have made you walk.

      leonard.olley.7 - 2012-12-28 08:05

      bongani.mtsweni.35 You hve seen it and experienced it. It seem to have worked then as I seen you can read and own a computer or are you doing this on the back of the bakkie with the white mans computor while him and his dog are eating biltong in the front out of the rain. Twat

      richard.hipkin - 2012-12-28 08:14

      And you all assume that it's because of racism? Such victim mentality....

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:47

      Bongani.mtsweni.35. I bet you kept quiet too.

  • neil.black.56 - 2012-12-27 23:21

    May explain why we tolerate killing of Rhino's after all more and more legalising of dog fights in townships

      gary.bhengu - 2012-12-28 10:15

      Which townships are u talking about Neil? i stay in the township and never heard of it

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:50

      Neil.black.56. Dog fights are probably more in step with culture there. Anyone involved in this atrocity should be jailed.

  • abdul.cassiem.9 - 2012-12-27 23:22

    Mac will as always cme to this idiot rescue with sme k...k excuse,darm whre did this people get their education from?!!!

  • ian.robertreid - 2012-12-27 23:22

    If u don,t take care of yr animals then u have sh~t 4 brains?

  • kyle.r.lottering - 2012-12-27 23:23

    i hate mr zuma so much. He tries to make me feel bad. Iv never even been to europe. Neither have my parents, nor their parents. He is always talking black vs white and im sick of him. What a sad excuse for a president we have. I wish he would die in place of madiba. Rough, but true.

  • Ntombenhlez - 2012-12-27 23:24

    @ new 24, u failed before the Mangaung and u a going to fail before 2014 to sabotage, only a fool cannot see that. I would love to know the management (pple who a behind this) U ONLY SHARE ON FB ZUMA LINKS, WHY????

      mark.els.71 - 2012-12-27 23:29

      Dur

      kyle.r.lottering - 2012-12-27 23:29

      shut up ntombi. What do you want? Zumas own newspaper where he can spread his own garbage to idiots like you? The masses are blinded but some struggle drivel, get over it. As much as you hate europe, you love it.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:51

      Ntombenhlez. They share Zuma links so we can laugh ourselves silly.

  • vernon12345 - 2012-12-27 23:24

    Zuma is a dog to the tax man cus he pisses all our tax money on his house. Now I'd 5 wife has an 11 mill home any I know on his salary he can't afford that bond either. So all I got to say is who let the dog out

  • edward.tillett.98 - 2012-12-27 23:25

    Seems like our pres is mighty selective about cultural matters, cherry-picking from 'white culture" that what suits him. Here's one for "quarter-pounder" Mac Maharaj to chew on: why does Zuma send his kids to "white" private schools?

  • justin.b.whittaker - 2012-12-27 23:25

    Ditto kyle!

  • cecilia.vanderwesthuizen.5 - 2012-12-27 23:31

    Why does it matter to you mr.showerhead how people spend their time or money? Rather look at those who have none. Spend more time ending poverty. Maybe you should get a dog to show you what loyalty means or rather not! The poor pup will starve in your care just like your people.

  • Hans Senior - 2012-12-27 23:31

    I will always love & treasure my dogs above a human, especially a human(?) like Zuma. I wouldn't even consider naming my dog Zuma, that would be terribly insulting to the dog's intelligence.

      nketso.kgwadi - 2012-12-27 23:41

      I think the law must be passed quickly that people must not disrespect the president cos people like u disrespect only african leaders if u don't wanna be here go to aussie fool.

      carryn.whittaker - 2012-12-28 00:07

      Constitutional Democracy fool. Read up on it. If you want to live in a dictatorship head north.

      Tidet Roberts - 2012-12-28 00:28

      My forefathers helped to build this country up to what it used to be, so NO! I will not move to Australia. Why don't you move to Zimbabwe, fool

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 11:57

      nketso.kgwadi. You are the fool. We will respect those that earn respect, no matter what colour they are. You on the other hand see black and that's right, no matter how corrupt or crooked. Poor child. There is no place called aussie. Do away the computer and read a book.

  • freddy.phogojane - 2012-12-27 23:34

    DOGS DNT RAPE'MURDER'LOOT

      nick.sailer - 2012-12-27 23:50

      Actually they do..... not in quite the same way and on the grand scale that humans do, but they do.

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-12-28 03:31

      Oh brilliant observation, yes dogs deserve to be treated like kings. Wish this showerhead scum would read your quote.

  • grannygrant - 2012-12-27 23:35

    Jacob Zuma has done NOTHING to aid reconcilliation in this country and EVERYTHING to consolidate his ignorance by such idiotic utterances. He's an embarrassment to the ANC and to the Government. Bring on Ramaphosa as Prime Minister, so that we're spared this stupidity in International Circles.

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-28 00:32

      Donald Duck would be a better choice. He trumps bigfoot in every way heh heh....

      keith.staniford - 2012-12-28 06:07

      He is an embarrassment to ALL South Africans, black or white.

  • sam.makua.10 - 2012-12-27 23:43

    I'm not zuma's minion!!!.. But I have noted with grave concern that over the past 5 months reports about zuma have been met with rage and irreverence by 99.8% of people on this site! People are arguing subjectively , they just spew the rage towards the head of state! This does not say much about a brighter SA

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-27 23:50

      Sam, he is the leader of this nation. And most of what comes out of his mouth is utter rubbish and makes us the laughing stock of the world. That is why most people spew rage at him.

      carryn.whittaker - 2012-12-28 00:03

      If only he had a rand for everytime someone spewed rage.....no wait hold on

      christelle.theron.3 - 2012-12-28 00:05

      Hooooold on Carryn:-) He already has enough of our money. How about all of us getting a rand every time he talks cr@p

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-28 00:29

      Its not bright. The lingering stench of corruption eats away at the soul of the nation........

      koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-12-28 08:00

      @Sam: I myself is active on one server in particular based in Germany. There is another sister server in France. I'm known as a standing comedian. I mostly convey what these leaders say and do and on those servers the people think I'm actually joking. Most of the people don't even know where South Africa is I kid you not. A few have heard of Mandela and SA has been referred to as Mandela land a few times but that is about that as far as Europeans following South Africa goes. Talk about irrelevance. Sad part is I'm not joking. How can there be a brighter anything if we are regressing? The world doesn't care. No one will help and we are on our own. Outcome? In Africa an outcome is always assured. Won't be any different here.

  • nick.sailer - 2012-12-27 23:45

    Wheres my comment? Someones deleted my comment? Was it the 'no barkies for d.....s' comment that did it?

  • jp.byrnes.7 - 2012-12-27 23:47

    Well, frankly, If it's part of 'white culture', I am god damn proud of that fact. And Khaya Xaba, dogs are still cheaper to look after and take care of than 20 children and 5 wives hunny.

  • sharmay.thuynsma - 2012-12-27 23:52

    Maybe you should start reading "Otto gaan see toe". Start you off slowly on dog literature before you mess with Shakespeare and Chaucer.

      raymond.buis.3 - 2012-12-27 23:56

      I fully agree or maybe something like see spot run.

  • hdejager3 - 2012-12-27 23:55

    themba you are a Idiot and share the same IQ than Zumzum let me not forget a Racist that why S.a is were it is your type of thinking

  • nbezuidenhout - 2012-12-28 00:00

    Is the Alsation standing up against Madiba in front of a house trying to eat him then?

  • jerome.marlie.fortuin - 2012-12-28 00:02

    U c this is what happens when u re- elect a 70yr old dinosaur to run a country where the average person has more brain cells than Zuma.How does Zuma expect teachers to teach love,tolerance,patriotism with his colonial,ignorant and low I.Q. Statements.Why did'nt Zuma made these statements at Mangaung?Scared of losing votes when his true stupidy is more clearly revealed?

  • angelina.ballerina.961 - 2012-12-28 00:05

    What an ignorant fool! How is it even possible for someone this stupid to run the beautiful country of my birth. "A country is as successful as the way it treats its' animals". This was not the guidance of a white man, but the much revered Mahatma Gandhi. It absolutely sickens me to drive through the colored and black areas and see the poor malnourished animals - and yes I love animals more than adult human beings. Good God, I wonder why?? I am a "previously disadvantaged" Capetonian, who has lived in Canada for 35 years. I am also sick of hearing how I "ran away" from the problems. I took my bloody beatings on the steps and the altar of St Georges Cathedral, I harbored many students in my home when they were chased and shot at by the apartheid security police, and I was stalked by the security police. As a single mother with a two year old daughter, I was not about to be jailed and likely killed (because I would not shut up for anyone). I loudly and proudly protested down the main streets of Toronto against Apartheid and for sanctions to force an end to Apartheid. So all you reverse racist creeps who tout your "sacrificial lamb" status after 20 years of opportunity to move forward- get over yourselves and learn to be more civilized than the statements made by Zuma. Heaven forbid that this man should have a further four years to embarrass our country on the global stage. It is time for anyone who understands anything about politics to get up and support the DA.

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-28 00:25

      Gandi was'nt white?

      janemartin855 - 2012-12-29 14:05

      Well said.

  • lunga.mathe - 2012-12-28 00:06

    White people always sensationalise rubbish. Are we gonna be talking about dogs now?

      samuel.ngenga - 2012-12-28 00:11

      If we r talking about dogs then we're talking about you

      dean.oswell.1 - 2012-12-28 00:13

      Lunga ? LOL.. Your Africanist agenda is glaringly apparent. Please, you should pay for advertising space. If the (so called) President put his foot-in-his-mouth, all he has to do is take it out; not 'kick at every dog that barks'.

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-28 00:23

      We like our dogs. First he kicks our dogs then he kicks us, then he kicks you. We want to stop all this kicking before he goes too far....heh heh

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 12:02

      Lunga.mathe. we didn't start talking about dogs. Your president did. So according to you he spoke rubbish?.

  • samuel.ngenga - 2012-12-28 00:08

    Chinese fur farms here we.come. Zuma is a savage. Since u don't give a s

  • desmond.s.leaner - 2012-12-28 00:08

    All comments I have read here are so stoopid..honestly! It is not, and have not been the culture of the average non-white South African to submit their pets for all the required medical treatments, That does not mean that there is no culture for caring for the animals! Or that non-whites neglect their pets. If you look at the average South African (who is actually NOT white and does NOT have a well-paying job), they do not own pedigree pets and they usually have one SPCA in a township or perhaps not even...there are no vets in ghettos. Plus there are mouths to feed other than buying designer pet-foods. I actually thank Zuma for connecting with the average 3rd world South African and not the judgmental 1st World sector of the public!

      Johnny - 2012-12-28 02:59

      Average South African? So if you mix 8 liters black paint, 1 liter of brown and 1 liters of white you get a color called "Average"? You don't know the meaning of the word "average". Get your head out of your ass.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 12:04

      DezLee. Really, if they can't care for their animals, why have them?. Whose fault is it that there are mouths to feed?.

      desmond.s.leaner - 2012-12-28 20:35

      @Johnny, get your head out of your neighborhood, drive 5 kilometers and meet the average South African in the township. 80% 3rd World plus 20% 1st World equals a 3rd World country. In your paint analogy you will get a black colour result actually. @Jacqui - you are taking the extreme and generalizing - its the same as asking why the poor whites in Danville don't get sterilized and stop having more pets

  • clement.mokone - 2012-12-28 00:11

    People are not taking this serious but I can asure you that this president's stupidity is harming our nation now and in years to come. The effects of corruption deprives citizens of stability,development,amenities of life and so forth. However, I indeed hold the AnC accountable for this fire that is now burning us. The ANC of Madiba, Makgatho, Mbekis,Tambo etc would not have given us this guy. Why is the ANC doing this to the nation? We trusted the ANC but its seems we must look somewhere else for development and service delivery,poverty aleviation and education etc. It is high time that we hearken to noble men like Tutu and other clergies regarding the leadership genre needed by our nation. It won't hurt the nation to fire this guy but will save it. Now that its clear that the ANC is all about enriching the leadership and indeed sure that as a nation something must be done to guarantee and guarantor that the nation is saved from these greedy and unwise leader.he is out of touch with people needs. The second liberation, perhaps from Anc is needed.

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-28 00:19

      An eloquent comment. Like a breath of fresh air. There is hope....

  • ben.wepener.9 - 2012-12-28 00:18

    Dogs in the Real Life is not Raccist like the ANC Goverment, If you give them love and you look after them , they will be yor best friend. In South-Africa the ANC Goverment lost the Track and they want to become more Oppressive Towards the Minorities, They are Currently worse than the NP Goverment when it come to Human Rights and Genocide. More Sivilians are Killed from 1994. I think more than 19000 Murders in one Year. The Dogs dont even kill each other like That. This seems to me not to Bother the ANC Goverment.....

  • Simon Maabe - 2012-12-28 00:30

    You all busy discussing about who loves dogs better and forgot about potholes. To make this matter very simple, let the Zuma government increase dog food by 3 times and reduce cigarettes by 3 times, then you'll see who really loves DOGS!

      carryn.whittaker - 2012-12-28 00:36

      No first it was Zuma who spoke about dogs and forgot about potholes.

      sarel.brits - 2012-12-28 01:06

      Yes and while your at it, you can join Zuma's cabinet you do look stupid enough. I will share the food of my own plate with my dog and my dog is more dependable and honourable that most of people in this country and certainly anybody in the ANC or SACP.

      themba.thwala.775 - 2012-12-28 10:37

      Dude, for a MBA graduate, you sure talk a lot of nonsense

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 12:06

      Simon Maabe, This is one of the most stupid arguments I have ever heard.

  • andrew.alston.737 - 2012-12-28 00:34

    Why I love my dog more than some others... a.) My dog hasn't had 19 liters (mainly because spaying / neutering is an option) b.) My dog doesn't use 250 million of its owners money to build itself a mansion c.) My dog doesn't need to use a shower after it mates to prevent disease d.) My dog didn't manage to worm its way out of 700 fraud and corruption charges e.) My dog gives a crap about me irrespective of it I give it gravy off the train or not f.) My dog won't turn on me the moment its expedient to do so... Wait... my dog has a hell of a lot more intelligence and cares far more for me than any member of our current government...

  • annabel.cronje - 2012-12-28 00:35

    This land will never reach the light at the end of the tunnel. . . Riddle me this, who has less humanity, a pet owner/Dog lover or a criminal who brutally murders farmers ??? So what if we care more for our pets than our domestic workers (which is not even 100% true & i know tons of people who carries their domestic workers on their hands), is it our fault that Mr. Zuma married most of his "domestic" workers & treats them like pedigrees now??? Well if that's the idea then i will also go & tooi tooi for a 6-7 digit salary so i can afford to live in luxury !!!

      Sherry Skibbe - 2012-12-28 00:58

      zumas barking continues to divide the rainbow nation and pull the wool over his poor followers eyes why doesnt he throw out his own luxury cars and pedigree items he certainly doesnt despise his own wealth what a hypocrite

  • sanet.n.debeer - 2012-12-28 00:36

    Zuma is a huge joke! I definitely love my dogs more than a lot of humans, especially someone with this little brains. How did we end up with a "leader" like this?

      taylorbequest - 2012-12-28 03:32

      because people vote with their hearts and not heads.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-28 12:08

      Taylorbequest. In this instance they neither voted with their hearts or minds, but with their feet.