Zuma, leaders in pockets of mines - Malema

2012-09-11 14:47

Johannesburg - Expelled ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema has accused President Jacob Zuma and other ANC leaders of being in the pockets of mine bosses.

Addressing yet another crowd of miners on a wildcat strike on Tuesday, this time at the Goldfields KTC West mines at Driefontein near Carletonville, he said: “The mines are paying millions of rands of protection money into Jacob Zuma’s trust accounts.”

Malema, who stood on the mine’s sports field surrounded by hundreds of miners sitting on the grass and on the stands, said because the “highest” leader was being paid off, “you can’t touch the mines”.

Malema said Zuma was too scared to address the miners at Marikana on the koppie after 34 were shot dead by police, until his advisers told him to go there.

Malema said when he went to the “mountain”, all the miners asked for was water to drink so that they could start with talks.

'Not protecting miners'

“Zuma was not there to protect the miners,” he said, but instead to assure the investors.

Malema also slammed mineworkers’ union NUM general secretary Frans Baleni for being out of touch with workers.

Malema claimed Baleni made a million every year just from sitting on the boards of mines.

He also said Baleni never attended branch meetings and didn’t know the demands of workers. He called for NUM leaders to resign.

Malema also questioned where the riches of businessman and African Rainbow Minerals’ Patrice Motsepe came from, and added that ANC chairperson Baleka Mbete had shares in the mine where the meeting was being held.

He called for a national strike, five days every month, and to make the mines “ungovernable” through peaceful means until their R12 500 wage demand was met.

Malema also confirmed that he was “under heavy police investigation” because he was accused of having instigated the violence at Marikana’s Lonmin mine.

'Same as under apartheid'

“They are doing the same thing they did under apartheid,” he said.

Malema alleged miners were being tortured to “confess” that he had started the trouble, but they refused.

Malema said he was not scared of going to prison or of being killed, because “they will never kill our ideas”.

City Press on Sunday reported that crime intelligence was investigating Malema’s role in the recent mine unrest.

Miners on Tuesday told City Press they had been on strike since Sunday’s night shift to demand a R12 500 wage.

Some of them earn the minimum wage of just over R4 000.

One protester carried a poster saying “Juju 4 president” and another told City Press “Malema will help us”. But he couldn’t explain how.

Yet another miner said Malema only came to give them “advice” about how to achieve their demand for a wage increase.

  • tin.can.501598 - 2012-09-11 14:50

    Eish JuJu is too talkative today...What happened to the Sedition Act ?

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-09-11 14:55

      Malema's rhetoric is astonishing. He must be quite desperate in trying to raise his popularity stakes.

      procold2 - 2012-09-11 15:01

      and juju whos pocket are you in? this idiot is a stand up comedian, missed his calling.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-09-11 15:08

      He's just jealous because he can't get his snout into the mine trough like the rest of the pigs.

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-11 15:12

      Time for someone to take Fat Boy out. Long overdue.

      nico.vivier - 2012-09-11 15:20

      ha ha ha ha!! yes he is!

      nrgx.nrg - 2012-09-11 15:40

      “Zuma was not there to protect the miners,” he said, but instead to assure the investors." - As much as I despise zuma, this is exctly what he should be doing...Yes the miners are important, but without investors there will be no mines and NO JOBS!

      willem.vanrensburg.562 - 2012-09-11 16:04

      This Malema ouk has nothing to lose.. He will force ALL the mines to close down, then the government will be forced to save the mines, and nationalization will be the only alternative...and that’s where the story will end..good bye SA..

      thabang.bonang.7 - 2012-09-12 08:04

      Yes He is talkative. But is He telling the truth or lies?

  • neill.mackenzie.3 - 2012-09-11 14:50

    why is anyone still listening to this idiot?

      maree.cassie - 2012-09-11 15:05

      let him be present when there is another shooting! PLEASE!!!

      Essy1945 - 2012-09-11 15:56

      308 - 'cause they're idiots and fools they are - he is the clever(er) one playing them up. So how will he nationalise "HIS" mines - through anarchy and forceful take-over, blood shed of those who WANT to work...

      JHLR73 - 2012-09-11 15:56

      Because he has more power than you think and he is till going to cause a lot of frustration. Watch this space, it is going to get nasty!!!!

      joe.mac.31521301 - 2012-09-11 15:57

      @308 – The masses that have voting rights listen and believe him. This is sad but true. Unfortunately they are being led to the slaughter house and they do not even realise this. Julius Malema tells them what they want to hear, they don’t care whether it has long term ramifications or not. They are on a Juju high!! But don’t you worry this high will wear off, and when the penny drops they will be in for a rude awakening.

      heathway.master - 2012-09-11 16:59

      All time tragedy of history that Malema was not at the front leading the murderous mob on the day of the Lonmin shooting. His bright yellow shirt and red guerrilla beret would have been lovely bright targets.

      alf.pop - 2012-09-11 18:14

      Julius you slut! Look at that picture! Are You pregnant? Who is the daddy?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-09-12 12:18

      308. Everyone should be listening to this 'idiot'. He may very well hold the torch that can set this country on fire.

  • lhenama - 2012-09-11 14:51

    Malema's dream has always and will always be that of owning a mine, at whatever cost might be.

      DrGonzoSA - 2012-09-11 15:39

      Like Mandela and Zuma at Aurora. He'd have no better idea of how to manage it

      johnny.nel.79 - 2012-09-11 23:15

      Can someone not please give him a mine? Preferably a landmine!

  • rhyno.vermaak - 2012-09-11 14:53

    At some stage, even the miners will get weary of their new ally. Thats Malema's gift to the people he 'supports'.

      customdesign - 2012-09-11 15:01

      Wonder how popular he will be when they all sit without jobs

  • drsparky - 2012-09-11 14:55

    A year from now this main will be in jail.

      lorain.maseko - 2012-09-11 15:03

      How i pray for that to be the case.

      long.tom.509 - 2012-09-11 15:06

      I think he will be in a quieter place than that,his pissing on the wrong tree

      arthur.hugh - 2012-09-11 15:09

      More likely a mining "accident". Juju just didn't watch where he was walking...

      glen.e.huysamer - 2012-09-11 15:15

      I remember somebody saying the same thing about Zuma, so these days I rather not even try and foretell the future.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-09-11 15:39

      Dang, you're right Glen...

      Essy1945 - 2012-09-11 15:58

      if there were the case, then he'll be out on parol - medical pardon or the president's pardon (no not Zuma) but that of his friends in high places the next president (Tokyo or someone) before you know it...

  • yanga.tamela - 2012-09-11 14:56

    Malema for President what a joke

      Yosi Sesoana - 2012-09-11 15:19

      Zuma must go,n must not think of 2term

      lhenama - 2012-09-11 15:37

      Like seriously some people really don't think realistically, who would really want this moron to be a president. He would treat people like dogs. I'm just now thinking of that journalist he insulted "you bastard"

  • rynventer - 2012-09-11 14:59

    Malema might not be doing this for the right reasons but the fact stands that R4000 really is a joke if you keep the working conditions and health risks in mind. None of you would do it for that amount, think about it. I hope after the storm these guys can get some kind of a raise.

      customdesign - 2012-09-11 15:04

      I've done it for less- they are a bunch of sissies

      nads.delange - 2012-09-11 15:07

      Go do some reading, fin24 is a good place to start. Most of these people don't earn R4000, they earn far more, and that's not even including their bonuses for production. The only people who earn R4000 don't even work underground. And you're right, I wouldn't work for that little, because I have matric, and a postgrad degree, and am still studying while working. When people who do not even have matric start earning ridiculous salaries, this country will really go to the dogs, because then nobody will see the need for an education. And by the way, these strikers have been violently threatening anyone who doesn't want to strike with them, they are forcing people to stay away from work and not earn a living. They deserve jail, not a raise!!!

      nads.delange - 2012-09-11 15:10

      The funniest thing is that Lonmin made a loss last year, they're struggling to stay afloat, to afford the salaries and wages they are paying at the moment. These people are going to be retrenched if they continue like this. Would love to see how they feel about R0 a month!!

      skhuramavee - 2012-09-11 15:17

      i agree with you but R12500.00 is crazy too,,, atleast R8000.00

      DrGonzoSA - 2012-09-11 15:43

      Mechanise the mines, employ a fraction of the people. Thats what will happen. Or nationalise them and kill the industry once and for all. Either way the end result is LESS jobs and MORE poverty. - 2012-09-11 15:45

      A Ryn - The R4000 is the NET salary. To explain it in simple terms, this is what gets paid into their bank account at the end of the month after tax, pension, medical etc... has been deducted. Never mind the R1800 housing allowance they get on top of that R4000. In fact, their CTC is closer to R11500 per month. Their DEMAND is to nett R12500

      nads.delange - 2012-09-11 16:50

      And then we haven't even begun to cover the fact that they don't want to pay tax on that. I also don't want to pay tax, I think I should also arm myself and march on the police and threaten anyone who doesn't support my cause!!

  • barbara.eksteen.5 - 2012-09-11 14:59

    Tell me one thing??? every freakin article thats written about ANC youth league leader...or president...WHY? he is a nobody!! Someone surely can stop him? he is milking these strikes for his own benefit! And another thing...feeding them while they are on strike? who's idea was that? fire them all and give people who wants to work those jobs!! I know a few who will!!

  • dmcmr.dhai - 2012-09-11 15:01

    Last time I checked, fat boy was on the pockets of Limpopo tenders

  • trevor.kahn.5 - 2012-09-11 15:02

    I think NEWS24 has shares in Julius Malema... I have never seen so much interest in one person as news24 has in Juju...

      hunter.tseke - 2012-09-11 15:31

      He is a King Maker, like it or not

      trevor.kahn.5 - 2012-09-11 15:49

      Because of biased media like news24 they are giving this idiot a voice. Julius Malema is making a joke out our beautiful country and is seriously effecting our economy with his outrageous and quite frankly dangerous comments... As well as giving uneducated people false hope. He is leading them astray... That is counter productive... He is not a kingpin... He is a loose canon that needs to be taken out of the lime light.

  • paulvernonza - 2012-09-11 15:02

    TALK TALK , YADA YADA YADA seriously is this the only skill we have an oversupply of??

  • long.tom.509 - 2012-09-11 15:03

    This boy used to eat from the same trough as Zuma,think his just a bit peeved that his allowance has been cut,he should not point fingers about easy money,I think his hands are a bit dirtied in this aspect of the game

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-09-11 15:04

    Ok so tell us something we dont already know. What about your Trust fund for the poor is that not the same. How did the money make its way into your trust fund and why. Jacob warned you it was cold outside the ANC on a sour note.....feeling the pinch like everybody else. If these miners should ever wake up and learn the truth, they are going to lynch you. Being and ex ANCYL president, why dont you show us how an educated person is so supposed deal with a problem matter. Yes I do agree that Unions have lost touch with their memebers and are only in it for the money these days. If they were in touch these miners would have let them do their bidding and accepted what was put on the table. You are only doing this out of spite against the very organization you profess to love so much. Why do we not see you have civilised talks with all those connected to the mine, no you are stirring up the miners inciting them to violence. Be careful JuJu the hyenas are on the prowl they smell blood,

  • Mbuyi Mabuya Maphalala - 2012-09-11 15:04

    Attension seeking opportunist, who cares of what this fat moron has to say. What does he know about the struggle, he is still wet behind his ears, he must just leave politics to the real politicians.

      rudi.lourens.9 - 2012-09-11 16:17

      WELL SAID...

  • dan.gleebits.33 - 2012-09-11 15:05

    Of course this paragon of virtue has every right to point fingers at alleged corruption! Any self-respecting, self-made, millionaire who earned his wealth through hard work and his own sweat is duty-bound to point out the evils of the existing regime. Especially when he has the interests of the poor exclusively on his mind, ignoring any potential benefit this might have for him. Support JuJu for a clean new administration in SA in the years to come.

      nads.delange - 2012-09-11 15:15

      Ah man, that was a good laugh, I enjoyed that one!!

  • long.tom.509 - 2012-09-11 15:05

    empty vessels make the most noise

      abra.kadaver.1 - 2012-09-11 16:17

      Let Juli-ass make all the noise and cause all the controversy he wants. What he has failed to realize is that he is caught between the devil and the deep blue sea, he no longer has any political affiliation, he has burnt his bridges with the ANC who want nothing to do with him, he is constantly running down and degrading the leadership of the ANC, so his options are to carry on being a bag of hot air with no real political backing or join/ start another party, which would just aid the splitting of the ANC vote. So either way it is a lose lose situation for the ANC, and a win win for every other party in the country trying to break the ruling parties hold on the country.

      godknows.sabao - 2012-09-11 23:21

      then SA must have a lot of empty vessels

  • alan.erwin1 - 2012-09-11 15:05

    ???MONEY IN A TRUST FUND???? Where did we hear about trust funds ??? o yes JuJu and family. Takes one to know one.

  • collen.vinjwa - 2012-09-11 15:07

    So its a bad thing that they are the once making millions now? Didn't Malema made them 2 in the Limpopo tender processes? Sit down Malema.

  • sarie.moolman.1 - 2012-09-11 15:08

    Ouch! The good life is clearly taking its toll on that tummy!

  • - 2012-09-11 15:11

    Tell me this man isn't making the most of this.. he is making demands the mines can't meet and therefore will keep this going on. People say this guy is stupid but really he knows what he is doing. He playing the right notes and the masses are following. We all know he is corrupt and dodgy but the people are looking for a voice and Juju is providing it. Juju's of the world only exist when you have enough desperate people looking for a savior.

  • skhuramavee - 2012-09-11 15:11

    cde still wear ANC gear to rallies , who is he represanting when he gets to the public adresses that he is making, i think if cde is goin to disrespect mogatlo and the leadership he should have the desency not to wear the uniform of ANC, and what is the purpose of him goi

  • nonhlanhla.d.mngomezulu - 2012-09-11 15:15

    people who listens to this stupid are dumb... why is the media still entertain this human mother f... we are in the country where people should appreciated the work cos unemployment is escalting bt this bastard is just singing rotten things

      dan.ledwaba.5 - 2012-09-11 16:32

      I hear you and I agree with your statement. Those ppl listening to him is going to get burnt, badly, then it will be too late for tears.

  • darren.raath.5 - 2012-09-11 15:15

    vote julius malema PLONKER OF THE YEAR!!!

  • desertratbkf - 2012-09-11 15:15

    One protester carried a poster saying “Juju 4 president” and another told City Press “Malema will help us”. But he couldn’t explain how. Bwahahaha. Well there's a surprise. These illiterate imbeciles believe that old fatso will really help them through magic or something. One bullet, one Juju!

  • pietervonb - 2012-09-11 15:16

    News24 are removing comments with real valid points from all races, they cant handle that the real voices make their mark

  • Bob - 2012-09-11 15:18

    This little jackass is going to cause civil war! Charge him for incitement and lock the fool away! The rand just started to strengthen against the dollar and now this twit opens his fat mouth again, watch the rand slide again!

  • dmcmr.dhai - 2012-09-11 15:19

    I can't wait for a day when I open News24, there won't be any mention of juju.....

  • bongeka.magwaza - 2012-09-11 15:20

    "I will die for Zuma"said Malema couple months ago.Now he wishes Zuma to die.Is that some kind of a joke? Bloody oportunist playing with the poor miners' feelings for self gain.I just wish they can see through you before it's too late.

  • wwjdrevolution.newtestament - 2012-09-11 15:20

    Why on earth is the Media giving Mr Malema so much publisity???????? I have come to the conclusion that the media is at most responsible for all the strikes and chaotic behaviour we see on the mines currently! What Propaganda is this. The media is promoting a guy that has been expelled from the ANCYL ...!!!!!! Has anybody seen this guys School report????????? Pure propaganda from the Media. The Question is why! I personally think as long as the Black man is in charge of SA the rest of the world can do whatever they like and SA is to incompetent to realize they are just being manipulated. As if where the white man had to be in charge without appartheid pure values would have stood in the worlds way ... Maybe for a one world order.. I dont know. Certainly something to think about!

  • claire.baatjes - 2012-09-11 15:20

    give Juju his due he knows when to take advantage of a situation... shame poor mineworkers... buying his bs just like the ANCYL... he seems to like praying on the weak and gullible...

  • mkhindana.peter - 2012-09-11 15:25

    That's right Julius,drag Zuma down with you.Drag all the corrupt ANC leaders down with you.Spill the beans Juju,spill the beans.

  • clourens - 2012-09-11 15:26

    This R12500 they want does this include or exclude... The free/subsidised housing water & electricity they get at the moment, Medical Aid, Pension and many other perks they get or will this all be included in the R12500. because honestly the way I interpret it is that the workers want this over and above all perks they receive already...

      thabo.modiba.7 - 2012-09-11 16:21

      Miners @ lonmin earn R11000 gross salary and R4000 net. They want R12500 net.

      clourens - 2012-09-11 16:37

      Ya just as I thought... NOT GONNA HAPPEN !!!! people think mines make a lot of money, which in fact they don't the costs of operating a mine come close to what they make in total so the mines profit margin is actually very small... and increasing wages to this R12500 will close the mine as the mine will then soon after the wage increase be running at a loss !!!

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-09-11 15:31

    Crime intelligence is investigating Malema's role in mine unrest. Nonsense. Crime intelligence failed to 'read' the Marikana saga now they are investigating Malema. The current ANC leaders are using organs of state like Crime intelligence to fight their political battles so that is why they appoint civilians to run the police service

  • robqb - 2012-09-11 15:31

    Before reading the comments below, or above, let me offer my tuppence worth. Malema says that J.Z., and others, are being "bribed" by the mines. Is this Ju Ju blowing of steam, again? If he can prove that this is going on, can he prove it. The old saying applies here. "Put up or shut up!"

  • michelle.blackie - 2012-09-11 15:31

    JuJu for President? Of what - Lala land?

  • ntsunyane.frederick - 2012-09-11 15:32

    At least there is some sense in Malema's speech.Workers must demand their right in peaceful way.

  • ndumiso.mncwango - 2012-09-11 15:35

    If there was someone with half a mind in his audience, they would have asked him how HE made his millions

      gavin.lott.9 - 2012-09-11 15:58


  • DrGonzoSA - 2012-09-11 15:38

    Hilarious. Who's funding you Julius? Where did they get their money?

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-09-11 15:38

    ...recent mine unrest

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-09-11 15:39 the recent mine unrest

  • savanajack - 2012-09-11 15:42

    this s all abwt malema's personal interests, he s just felt hard done by anc n he s using yet again the poor 2 fight his battle n he knws in the back of his mind. ppl knw the truth but choose 2 believe lies, malema does'nt own a mine n he belongs nowhere goin nowhere but tryin 2b patrice motsepe. ppl choose 2 blv him coz he speakin their language but they knw he got no idea of how he s goin2 help them.

  • savanajack - 2012-09-11 15:43

    this s all abwt malema's personal interests, he s just felt hard done by anc n he s using yet again the poor 2 fight his battle n he knws in the back of his mind. ppl knw the truth but choose 2 believe lies, malema does'nt own a mine n he belongs nowhere goin nowhere but tryin 2b patrice motsepe. ppl choose 2 blv him coz he speakin their language but they knw he got no idea of how he s goin2 help them.

  • mariela.fernandez.9883739 - 2012-09-11 15:44

    This site seems to have some useful info on what happened in Marikana:

  • i.see.a.cupcake - 2012-09-11 15:45

    JUJU sucka dick

  • marlin.samuels.1 - 2012-09-11 15:49

    just naar the money doesnt get transfered into his trust account

  • bullardx - 2012-09-11 15:55

    Juju needz special therapy.#enuf said.

  • dudley.futcher - 2012-09-11 15:57

    Dark days rising the devil stood up and spoke and everybody listened, but the devil know this is a means to an end. The devil with his riches wants more and more and in the end his poor subjects will suffer, because he has no solution and when his poor subjects does not have jobs they will come to him but the devil will then be long gone

  • dnxumalo2 - 2012-09-11 15:57

    I have a bad feeling we are all going to go crazy reading these stories.

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  • johnlubisi.john - 2012-09-11 16:08

    poor juju