Zuma letter led to Mdluli's removal

2012-05-09 17:10

Johannesburg - Serious allegations of corruption and nepotism against him were not the reasons behind the shock removal of crime intelligence boss Lieutenant General Richard Mdluli on Wednesday.

A careful reading of Police Minister Nathi Mthethwa’s statement to Parliament shows that Mdluli was removed to allow state law adviser Enver Daniels the opportunity to investigate claims made by Mdluli that senior police officers were plotting against him.

Mdluli outlined these allegations in a strangely phrased letter which he addressed to President Jacob Zuma, Mthethwa himself, and acting police chief Nhlanhla Mkhwanazi in November last year.

City Press revealed on Sunday that Mdluli suggested in the letter that he would “assist the president to succeed next year” if he was reinstated to the position of crime intelligence boss.

Mthethwa addressed the crisis in the crime intelligence division during his budget speech in Parliament on Wednesday.

R200m secret service account

Speaking about the allegations against Mdluli – who had faced charges of murder and fraud – Mthethwa said: “We want to say processes which are currently before our criminal justice system would have to be observed by all to their logical conclusions.”

The minister probably referred to a judicial inquest into the death of Vosloorus resident Oupa Ramogibe in 1999, as well as an ongoing investigation by the Hawks into the mismanagement of a secret service account.

Mdluli was, together with three others, previously accused of murdering Ramogibe, with whose wife he was romantically involved. But charges were controversially withdrawn in February.

The Hawks are investigating charges that Mdluli and other high-ranking crime intelligence officials looted a R200m secret service account for their personal benefit.

The unit found that Mdluli employed at least seven family members in crime intelligence, kitted them out with luxury cars and rented houses he owned to his own division.

Mthethwa assured Parliament that Advocate Faith Radebe, the inspector general of intelligence, was looking into the “financial management” of the crime intelligence division.


The minister then moved to discuss “unfortunate public accusations and counter-accusations within the management of SAPS”.

This, he said, was sparked by Mdluli’s letter to him, Zuma and Mkhwanazi in which he accused Hawks boss Anwa Dramat, Gauteng police chief Mzwandile Petros and police head of detectives, Godrey Lebeya, of plotting against him.

“This letter seems to have political connotations and has caused tensions within the management of SAPS. It alludes to some conspiracy theory of some in the management ganging up against him.

“I have instituted a task team, led by the state law adviser to investigate such allegations because they are so serious as to suggest the meddling of policing functions in politics,” Mthethwa said.

This effectively means Mdluli was removed from his job to allow for an investigation into claims he made against his colleagues.

Mthethwa, in consultation with Mkhwanazi, decided to shift Mdluli from his position while the probe is underway.

Mdluli has been informed of the decision “and has pledged his support to the process”.

Mthethwa said he was “deliberately and purposefully” reiterating the “clarity of process” as there has been some “misrepresentation, false allegations and to a certain extent genuine concerns about the goings on within SAPS.

“We have resisted the temptation and we shall stick to our principles of respect for all legal processes of the land”.

READ: Mdluli’s letter to Zuma

  • kevincad - 2012-05-09 17:15

    Oh my god! Somebody very high up in government is corrupt! This is SHOCKING AND UNBELIEVABLE news! The real problem is that we've become so desensitised to this crap that we actually just expect it from them now. Imagine one day we'll see a headline saying "TOP MINISTER FOUND WITH IMPECCABLY CLEAN RECORD" One day.

      Sharon - 2012-05-09 17:20

      @ Kevin - would be the selfsame day that hell freezes over.. It seems having questionable morals is a requirement for government.

      rbphiri - 2012-05-09 17:23

      Sadly we have become the septic tanks of society.

      sylvester - 2012-05-09 17:25

      OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!! Do you REALLY REALLY think that could happen? Agree with Sharon ....... maybe when HELL FREEZES OVER!!!!!!!!!!!!! You HAVE to have a criminal record to become a member of the "ELITE", you have to have a criminal record or at least aspire to obtain one, to be one of the chosen, the moral of the story? As long as you do not get caught out, man, you are the man of the moment. Criminals, eh, they do not like to be shown the errors of their ways.

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-09 18:06

      NEVER!!! NOT as long as these thieving, lying criminals are in power!

      George - 2012-05-09 18:20

      Here's a theory. No that e-toll appears to be history, Mdluli can't afford to sponsor Zuma's victory. It takes hard cash to buy votes and Gautengers were going to feed the election machine ala Americana! Don't all applaud at once please!

      Barend - 2012-05-09 18:20

      I can't remember the last time I read about a plan to help the people living in poverty or any kind of constructive country building news. It seems as though the ANC have forgotten about the people and winter is on our doorstep for the 18th time already. Anyone who is proud of where we are as a nation is as blind as a bat.

      Terry - 2012-05-09 18:52

      @Kevincad - not "somebody very high up in government is corrupt" - EVERYBODY high up in government is corrupt!!!!!

      Gestoffle - 2012-05-09 19:06

      Hopefully some of you know the difference between bottom up as opposed to top down. Corruption is a bottom up problem, that means right through the government ranks, not just at the top. I really dont see this problem eradicating at all. I feel it has to start with the voters at the root; voters need to understand that their OLD (hopefully) government is corrupt. Sometimes I wonder why i put an opinion, ruddy waste of time trying to convince people to change their vote, especially if you cant see it after 18 years.....

      Raymond - 2012-05-09 19:53

      The Minister will only be clean on the body,but he will have to wear a shower head.

      Vernon - 2012-05-09 21:29

      damage control....

      Amanda - 2012-05-10 07:41

      He should have been suspended without without any pay or perks, now he is still being supported by the tax payers money, for heavens knows how long, their investigations takes ages.

  • Sharon - 2012-05-09 17:17

    If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is.... How disappointed I am, is this man royalty or something, they certainly treat him as if he is. Blast and damn!

      Wesley - 2012-05-09 18:56

      If the info bill become legislation, we are going to suffer

      Kolobe - 2012-05-09 20:18

      cant turn the letter around

  • Chris - 2012-05-09 17:19


      Frank - 2012-05-09 18:20

      And when we told them so we were told that the ANC has moral fibre, impeccable policies and the highly acclaimed Freedom Charter. We knew then that these bunch of cretins are just your common garden variety thieves salivating at the prospect to get their grubby paws on the money of this country they see as war loot. And now we are living the result with the liberal bleeding hearts that pushed this agenda, all silently sitting in Europe, Australia or New Zealand somewhere!! But hey, we still live in the most beautiful place on earth and when these thieves are ripped apart by the masses getting sniff of their deceit, we might have a shot at getting this country up and running again!

  • rbphiri - 2012-05-09 17:21

    Dear Mdluli please leave comrade Sincerely not yours Shower head

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-09 17:41

      Dear SH, I have the paper. Please reconsider. Rich PS : Need more cash.

      Antonie - 2012-05-09 18:50

      Aaaahhhhhahahahahaha, you guy crack me up - good one.

  • kuvha.tshilamatanda - 2012-05-09 17:23

    The damage of nepotism is already done,a person who has a pending criminal cases is moved from one department to another instead of heading to jail,hey this is soo shocking,what is wrong with our country,why we stand and look while people corrupt everything we worked hard for?\r\nIs this the freedom we wanted as a country?\r\nI still believe that all who do corruption should taste the full might of the law!

      Dee - 2012-05-09 17:41

      Yes Kuvha. And I worry about 1)Who will be appointed in his place - and will he just be another 'stooge' and 2) The very suspect appointments made by Mduli ... are they going to be removed too? But I do smile at the clever African diplomacy in the strangely worded letter making it seem as though removing Mduli is about investigating the 'conspiracy' against Mduli. .... but think / hope it is more likely that the honest politicians are tired of their phones being bugged and repeated theft of their laptops by this 'comrade'?!!

      Andrew - 2012-05-09 19:27

      Yeah unfortunately it is the dumb and illiterate who keep voting them into power and then through protests burn everything down. We are doomed to failure!!!

      Richard - 2012-05-10 13:26

      Yes Kuvha you have it right. But it now calls for all the people of this land to stand together and fight these criminals who profess to be our leaders.

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-09 17:27

    Carl! Carl! Where are you? These guys need you urgently !! They have a top job for you! Name your price. You can get rid of your debt chop-chop. No, don't worry, you won't ever have to tell the truth. Come on ! Show us what a parrot ... I mean patriot you are.

      Oscar - 2012-05-09 17:57

      Please no, one look at that shyte's face makes me feel sick. Carl and Kortbroek are in the same league, they even look alike.

  • Gregory - 2012-05-09 17:28

    Why he was appointed in the first place is beyond reason.

      rbphiri - 2012-05-09 17:42

      I thought it was an april fool's joke, but clearly it's not funny any more.

  • kasper.mbayi2 - 2012-05-09 17:30

    Remove him

      rbphiri - 2012-05-09 17:40

      Yeap, it's about time someone came to collect government's rubbish, it's making our place smell.

  • lebogang.molefo - 2012-05-09 17:32

    Dear Jacob Zuma aka J.Z Why didn't you shred the bloody letter after reading it??? See what you did now?? Yours in Removal Richard Mdluli Lol he must be livid

  • Bandile - 2012-05-09 17:35

    We are just another failed African state. Africans can't govern.

      rbphiri - 2012-05-09 17:39

      Not entirely, I have a dog that is able to lead the blind, Im quite sure he would do a better job in parliament.

      Msika - 2012-05-09 18:01

      Not realy, we made a mistake of giving all the power and votes to one party, until we maintain the power balance between at least two political parties nothing will eva change.\r\n\r\nSimple example, do you think Vodacom would be offering something called a nite shift if there were no cellc, mtn, and now 8ta? I dnt think so, probably some of us wouldnt even afford a simple smartfone because the prices would be sky high. Competition always benefit the consumer.

      Raymond - 2012-05-09 19:29

      What an understatement.It is not rocket science to know this.

  • James - 2012-05-09 17:41

    The mind boggles at the doing and the screwing of the public servants. It is a great pity that the current government have not yet realised that they are actually n service of Jo Public. |It is seemingly the belief that they are the chosen ones who can do no wrong and have a bottomless pit which is full of money for them to use, utilise and abuse as they see fit with no accountability. Should the pit seem a tad empty then all they do is toll, raise taxes, raise levies or put up paid parking..All the while us sheeple just vent our anger here on the cyber forum. When are we actually going to say enough is enough or will we wait until this is a second Zim - Already they are land-grabbing in the Eastern Transvaal and nothing is done about it. Cry my beloved country, cry.

  • Simphiwe - 2012-05-09 17:41

    One wonders why is the president hellbent on saving a job for Mdluli rather than re-suspending him if though there is this public outcry. It is incresingly become clear that the president is only concerned about saving his own job as the president. He derseves suspension not shifting of jobs.

  • Thabo - 2012-05-09 17:43

    Everything is about who you know not what you know.

      Sharon - 2012-05-09 17:48

      And what you know about who!

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-09 17:55

      ...and how you got to know what you know about who.

  • kim.buren - 2012-05-09 17:47

    Hmmmmmmmm I beg to differ.

  • Msika - 2012-05-09 17:49

    If we as a country managed to shake SANRAL and their E-Toll Scam, we can also shake and remove this corrupt government, this has really gone too far, the corrupt politicians are now conducting their corrupt dogy activities right infront of our eyes. I say when the next general elections come, use your vote wisely, forget about apartheid, that is history now, just do what is right for this country. Problem is the ANC has been given tooo much power, with no stronger oposition to keep them on their knees. I love the ANC, I love Madiba, I love the freedom charter, But the current state of affairs is not good for this beloved country of ours.

      Thabo - 2012-05-09 18:25

      U nailed it, 10/10. Currently we are voicing out concerns and we only get a chance to act once in five years.

  • George - 2012-05-09 17:51

    Whatever the motives the fact that he was removed and the acting commissioner appears to be acting well and in the interests of SAPS, is a good move. Let's hope the cANCer society begins to transform from a paranoid racist clan to a freedom loving, non-racist democratic institution. Zuma you can transform, even at your age. Go for it. Your ancestors would be happy, let alone amazed. The country will build statues in your honor.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-09 19:23

      George is right, Zumi. Listen to him. You will feel so much better about yourself. You can then go home at night and tell your wife and tell your wife and tell your wife and tell your wife that you did a good job. You can let all those ANC buddies pay back the billions and then there will be enough for all the people. Jobs, cars, more wives, good schools, good hospitals,safe neighbourhoods, lots of good food. Everybody will be happy. We can even give some to the people of Zimbabwe and Swaziland. They will all vote for you. Then our country can be much bigger and stronger.You can do it.

  • Salani - 2012-05-09 18:00

    Kuzo nyiwa!!!!!!

  • willem.wulfse - 2012-05-09 18:09

    Replace Zuma with a person of different moral fibre. That is the solution. Remove the abscess and the malignant neoplasms which are part of the scenario.

      Raymond - 2012-05-09 19:47

      And someone with a better shaped head.Some people have these huge overdeveloped bald heads but know a lot about nothing.What a despicable specimen.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-09 21:01

      Raymond : Not nice. Mr. Zuma does many wrong things, but he does not deserve this.

  • lownabester - 2012-05-09 18:13

    Thumbs up to City Press, for pubishing the letter last Sunday. they tell it like it should be, Well done,

  • Sonja - 2012-05-09 18:17

    cANCer Supporter ..... "This happens all over the world" Person with brains ...."only in South Africa" *smh*

  • Zimbobwe - 2012-05-09 18:20

    @news24 you can try to break my spirit by removing my comments but you'll never stop me speaking the truth. Your bloody agents so called editors will never suceed. I am the truth and the truth shall prevail!!!

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-09 18:24

      Bye! ;-)

      Mphotent - 2012-05-09 18:54

      Dear Cde\r\n\r\nI would advise you to follow through press complaints channel than to use abusive language, I wouldn't wish you to be subjected to prosecution under SA stringent laws. When u insult you take away your fundamental right enshrined in the Constitution of our country. I understand your frustration, but through proper channels I do believe your constitutional right to be heard will definitely be catered for.\r\n\r\nYours constant reader;

      ettienne.hattingh - 2012-05-09 18:55

      Another idiot

  • Thabo - 2012-05-09 18:39

    @ Tshililo? , Lol! Worried about your tax ? By the time you retire there not be UIF's and Pension Funds.

  • Tamaranui - 2012-05-09 18:45

    If he is found to have broken the law then he must be prosecuted like every other criminal however let the Hawks complete their investigation......

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-09 18:56

      Gregory , That's a profound statement, Janine, What you don't understand is that for every failure there are thousands of successes that are never reported. For all your Pessimism this is very much a first world country in many industries, services , Banking and most importantly RSA's infrastructure. Have you any idea what it takes to run this country,,,,Do you really know???? From Purified water in your taps to the Ports , Banking transactions and everything else you can think of in life. The issue here is some would like RSA to fail cos' then it can be said...""I told you so"" The interesting item here is that RSA is moving in the right direction. This transformation is most apparent at the lower end of the socio-economic ladder hence you are not aware. More RSA children are being educated, More people have an actual home(This means everything to most people) and all the other upgrading of living standards. Now the upper end of the Socio-economic ladder has suffered a drop in living standards.Which to be honest remains very high anyway. is this not a small price to pay considering RSA has only had 18 years on it's feet. Come on now RSA become a society we can all be proud of.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-09 20:09

      Tamaranui : Amusing how you start your reply to Janine with "What you don't understand" Well, let me tell you what I think you don't understand. The issue is not that some want S.A. to fail. This is merely an assumption on your part. Most South Africans, I am sure, want this country to be a success. Janine hinted at the criminality prevalent within the ANC. It is precisely because people want success, that they cannot stand the Arrogance, Nepotism and Corruption of the ANC. Billions of Rand are siphoned off to the ANC for their personal use every year, which should have been utilized for increasing the quality of life of our citizens. We can understand and accept human errors, but willful failure because of personal or party enrichment is totally unacceptable. You seem to pretend that Janine does not know what it takes to run a country. We all have our own ideas, and all of us have our own experiences. What I can tell you, is this: We have a Trillion Rand budget to do it with, but what do we do? Overseas trips, personal business interests, holiday homes, fat banking accounts, scams (like e-toll) ego trips, propaganda parties and all kinds of activities not directly related to what we should be doing for the people. Eighteen years is a long time for a young adult. Just read up about what some countries achieved in a few short years, within a teenage technological world during WW2, when there was a WILL to succeed. Things should happen much quicker today, than yesterday.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-09 20:30

      M, Read my comment,....Every and Anyone hindering RSA progress must get out of the way. If this individual has committed a crime then the Law must take it's course.

      maseratifittipaldi - 2012-05-09 20:51

      Amen to that, Mr. T.

      Dee - 2012-05-10 01:10

      Maserati - thank you for an excellent post to Tamaranui - who is recently back from N.Zealand and hence the utter naivete of her comment "If this individual has committed a crime then the law must take it's course". She does not realise that he was given a position of absolute power to make him exempt / untouchable by 'the law'....... and my polite effort to direct her to reading some information on the case was interpreted as 'indoctrination'?! Which might be working - because she's now bleating EXACTLY what the DA has been fighting tooth and nail for. No doubt it might surprise her that any progress on 'due process of law' on a corrupt cronie will be very, very slow, very expensive to tax payers - with slim chance of any lasting conviction. And to Tamaranui - that is not 'pessimism'. Merely a many times repeated pattern with the despicable ANC govt.

      John - 2012-05-10 03:19

      @Dee. Just FYI...Tamaranui is not a female, he is none other than our chief troll in another guise BlueZulu. Vinesh Naidoo, if he is back in SA it's probably because he was deported.

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-10 07:10

      Oh come on now John,

  • ron.warwick.79 - 2012-05-09 18:59

    Mdluli was moved (not removed)not to punish him, but because he claims there are senior police officers were plotting against him and to allow state law adviser Enver Daniels the opportunity to these claims. I hate to see innocent people victimized like this! So, this move was instigated by him. Maybe it is because the Director of Itelligence was to investigate him, now that he is not there, there will be no investigation against him. He walks away clean, just like any government official that under investigation, resign and no further action is taken. You are ellegible to be employed in another gov. department and your appointment can be justified because of the clean record. It's a circus, they think that because they can bulls**t most of the population, they can bulls**t everyone. Maybe the public protector needs to step in now!

      Tamaranui - 2012-05-09 19:03

      Is he not currently under investigation by the Hawks???

      Dee - 2012-05-10 02:00

      Tamaranui - NO - he is not under investigation by the Hawks! You clearly did not manage to read even the first sentence of the M&G article I suggested - probably with a mind closed to the possibility of "indoctrination"?! So try the Sowetan to read abpout how a Public Prosecutor trying to re-instate dropped charges of murder, corruption etc 1) Has been suspended 2) Has been shot at + other bodily harm attempts. ... and you might like to start taking an interest in reports on spate of thefts of computers from lawyers / anyone who might pose a threat. This man, facing prima facie cases of murder & corruption all suddenly 'swept away', was appointed by Zuma to a position of EXTREME POWER ...and you should be asking the question : WHY? Try not get 'pessimistic' over any rational conclusion the majority of thinking people have arrived at.

  • Roy Gould - 2012-05-09 19:05

    i think Mdluli was suppose 2 be suspended completely as there are 2 many serious allegations against him

      desertratbkf - 2012-05-09 19:58

      And I reiterate! Open the "closed" cases against him of MURDER and CORRUPTION, and send the scum to JAIL!!!!!

  • ESETHU_HASANE - 2012-05-09 19:08

    South African politics are like a Hollywood Political Movie!!!! everyday there is a scandal...... from corrupt ANC officials to DA officials watching Child P.O.R.N We can just seat-back, Relax and watch.... because the truth is; there is nothing we can do other than VOTING which has proven to be just a way of making the corrupt more hungry for power and state resources. SAD-MOVIE....

  • Grace - 2012-05-09 19:08

    Is he being paid stil??

  • Raymond - 2012-05-09 19:50


  • Obakeng - 2012-05-09 21:26

    I really question our President's competence, moral fibre or lack thereof....why does he always appoint people with some questionable track record/credentials? In the history of democracy/ANC, Zuma's administration is the most laughable. Circus all the way.

  • Vernon - 2012-05-09 22:02

    read the letter!! scary

  • Vernon - 2012-05-09 22:04

    freedom of info ..thanks city press

  • Vernon - 2012-05-09 22:09

    mr zuma ...tear down your walls!!!

  • - 2012-05-09 22:37

    This guy has got some incriminating evidence against Zuma. That's why they can't just fire him like all the rest. He was also somehow involved with the Zuma corruption case i read somewhere. Now doesn't it seem funny that Zuma is protecting this bastard the whole time. First pardoning him, then reinstating him, now, even though the paw paw has hit the fan and everyone with a brain can see he is guilty and still Zuma is defending him. Looks like he told them if he goes down he will take the whole lot with him. Looks like they are tip toeing around this case in the same way as when Zuma was accused of rape. And then suddenly he was found not guilty. Same with the corruption charges, they had enough evidence to open a case, but then suddenly all charges was withdrawn because there was not enough evidence wtf. do they think everyone is as stupid as them?

  • prakash.singh.169 - 2012-05-09 22:46

    The Hawks are investigating charges.................yeah nice one. Hawks were also investigating Malema............ Hawks will only investigate and come after you if you not ANC and high profile.......Mbeki shielded Jackie Selebi. The precedent is set. Zuma is shielding Mduli. Hawks and police services should be doing their job without fear and favour.

  • prakash.singh.169 - 2012-05-09 22:52

    HAWKS.........HAWKS......HAWKS..........HAWKS........FLY FLY FLY FLY FLY FLY...............REMOVE ........REMOVE............REMOVEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE SAPS PERSONAL UNFIT TO POSSESS A FIRE ARM.......................

  • Dennis - 2012-05-10 05:07

    You are going to fall very hard jacob !! Your past will catch up !!

  • siliziwem - 2012-05-10 05:44

    SA is just like a home where parents are on holiday, drug addicts or dead

      ntuthukojocky.khanyile - 2012-05-11 00:45

      Which South Africa are you referring to I think there is something wrong with your level of thinking,or you still left in apartheid South Africa we are very happy about our current government is doing in dealing with corruption please stop being a racist we are living in a new South Africa which is very democratically.

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  • AG.Mogotsi - 2012-05-10 06:54

    smh. we wonder why SA is 2nd, after Nigeria, on Africa's most corrupt nations.. u take 1 corrupt potato, and just move it to a different bag! u ddnt remove the problem..

  • creaturemabanga - 2012-05-10 07:42

    he was supposed to be suspended not moving him from his position.

  • Victor - 2012-05-10 07:54

    I still dont understand why Mdluli was not suspended pending an investigation, Cele was suspend, WHY is Mdluli getting a special treatment, is it because of Zuma???

  • Richard - 2012-05-10 13:21

    I have been following all the articles around corruption and theft in our government and from reading the comments I can say one thing and that is that it is apparent how people of all races are starting to understand what is going on and actually standing together in this. If nothing else at least this is positive and our greatest achievement in this regard is the whole E Toll fiasco. It is only once the population start standing together that we as a country can truly unite and eliminate those elements that are currently destroying our country. I think the point has been reached where it no longer matters what race you are as it has become clear that our leaders will destroy us unless we stand united against them. If left alone in another 20 years when nothing is left the leaders will still stand up like Mugabe and blame it all on Colonialism whilst their bank accounts are bursting at the seams and the people are starving. I pray that this country becomes ruled by it's people and that the Government becomes what it was designed to be, a servant of the people.

  • josta.shivuri - 2012-05-10 16:03

    Worst part is people who vote for them in the rural areas never get to know about these things. Hence we cannot blame them for voting for these power hungry and corrupt individuals.

  • howard.komati - 2012-05-10 16:26

    90 percent of Zuma's Ministers are corrupt.

  • mzijimmym - 2012-05-11 10:45

    What has become of us?The democracy we voted for was not meant to be a haven for crimininals.How can such a tainted person have a key role in our police force.I FOR ONE WILL NEVER VOTE AGAIN.

  • mabotjak - 2012-05-11 11:36

    If comrade minister Nathi Mthethwa was serious about protecting the reputation of the South African Police Services- Lieutenant General Richard Mdluli should not have been reinstated in the first place, pending the investigation of his alleged involvement in fraud corruption and murder .SAPS is should an institution of authority,integrity- not the circus it has become now. Unfortunately is a case of too little too late for comrade minister 's Oscar performance. He should have acted earlier.

  • TawwaTienie - 2012-05-12 08:58

    Tipies - gevul met korrupsie EN nog meer korrupsie. Die een hand was die ander. Plaas korrupsie geld terug en skaf diskriminasie af!

  • TawwaTienie - 2012-05-12 09:01

    Tipies - gevul met korrupsie EN nog meer korrupsie. Die een hand was die ander. Plaas korrupsie geld terug en skaf diskriminasie af!

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