Zuma sending team to Libya

2011-03-18 12:51

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma is sending a team to Libya at the weekend to take part in an African Union (AU) fact-finding mission aimed at starting talks between the regime of Libyan leader Muammar Gaddafi and rebels who are trying to end his 42-year rule.

"South Africa supports the position of the African Union with regards to the Libyan question and will work within the ambit of the AU," a statement from the presidency said on Friday.

"President Zuma will be represented by the Minister of State Security, Mr Siyabonga Cwele, Deputy Minister of International Relations Mr Ebrahim Ebrahim and security adviser Mr Welile Nhlapo, in the fact-finding mission to Libya."

South Africa is a member of a panel appointed by the African Union to assist in the resolution of the political crisis in Libya. The panel includes Uganda, Mauritania, Mali and the Republic of Congo.

SA to work with AU on Libya

Zuma said in the National Assembly on Thursday that he had personally rebuked Libyan leader Gaddafi for "shooting his people".

"We are dealing with a situation in Libya where Gaddafi is shooting his people... I discussed with Gaddafi and I condemned the actions he has undertaken and said it was wrong and he must stop doing it," he said, referring to a phone conversation with the embattled Libyan leader last week.

Zuma said South Africa would co-ordinate its position on Libya with other members of the AU.

A UN Security Council resolution has imposed a no-fly zone over the country to stop Gaddafi's attacks on rebels.

While some members of the council expressed doubts about military action, Washington argued that even stronger measures than a no-fly zone may be needed.

Gaddafi's forces have inflicted several defeats on rebels in recent days and Libya's deputy UN envoy, Ibrahim Dabbashi, who has turned against Gaddafi, warned on Thursday that the international community had half a day to react to prevent "genocide".

SA team back home

Zuma last week instructed the Treasury to begin freezing Gaddafi's assets in South Africa in accordance with an earlier UN Security Council resolution.

Meanwhile, a South African medical and media team evacuated from Jidabia in Libya earlier this week was expected on home ground on Friday.

The 22-member team, sent to Libya by humanitarian movement the Gift of the Givers, was expected to arrive at the OR Tambo International Airport at 11:00, said team leader Imtiaz Sooliman.

After six days of helping casualties at the Jibabia hospital, the group was requested to leave.

"We didn't want to leave. We were requested to because foreigners, doctors and especially journalists were being targeted and attacked in Jidabia," Sooliman told Sapa on Thursday.

  • onetickie - 2011-03-18 13:00

    zuma cannot even put together an intelligent "fact-finding" team in his own country so this is (sic) joke! Maybe he's going to see what he can get his hands on there seeing as there is not much left in SA!

      Talentt - 2011-03-18 13:17

      in which country do you come from Onetickie....running a country is a permanent mission...It just seems u hate the President with all your energies. What has he done to deserve your unfair judgments?

      allie - 2011-03-18 13:27

      @talent.I suppose to the standards of your and his culture,nothing.

      modefan - 2011-03-18 13:28

      I've got one, 3 actually. He committed fraud, then raped a girl, and then the court procedings were summarily halted, just before he was sworn in as president ( corruption )

      POLLENYS - 2011-03-18 13:31

      Strange to see there are people who think that Zuma has made any positive contribution. Turning a blind eye at corruption does not qualify. Or does it?

      vicj - 2011-03-18 13:33

      Talentt, if you can see how he and the ANC has stuffed up a good country then go and have your eyes and brain tested.

      BigMoose - 2011-03-18 14:53

      Zuma sending his clowns into a no-fly zone. Now that's really intelligent.

      Sword&Cross - 2011-03-18 17:34

      Get with it, WHAT A RELIEF, At least Libya will remain untouched by human hands if zuma's team goes there.

  • Dougalan - 2011-03-18 13:01

    Yes, please send most of the ANC leaders and Julius as well. Maybe Cheryl Cwele too, so she can make some contacts there for her 'business'. Because France is about to start bombing there.

  • djg - 2011-03-18 13:02

    Why so late...still humming and hahing stupid flathead

  • Grant - 2011-03-18 13:04

    On Tuesday it was reported that Zooma himself was going to Libya as part of a 'High Ranking AU delegation'. Now suddenly he is sending a 'team' What is he afraid of: a) having to sit face to face with a madman who's actions he claims to have condemmed over the phone. b) being bombed by the French Air Force. c) the money has dried up so there is no point in continuing the relationship.

      George - 2011-03-18 14:22

      well said Grant

  • Jack - 2011-03-18 13:06

    The french are about to bomb Libya, please send malema, floyd, winnie and another 246 titty f'king useless ANC politicians...quick!

      Picasso - 2011-03-18 13:21

      Was just thinking the same thing. Then the French can rid the world of two evils.

  • Mango - 2011-03-18 13:06

    Little Julius doesn't even listen to Jacob Zuma, why would Ghadaffi? Do you really think he is going to stop just because Zuma says he should. Ag shame. And why doesn't Zuma go himself? Shit scared if you ask me.

  • onetickie - 2011-03-18 13:07

    And his comment "We are dealing with a situation in Libya where Gaddafi is shooting his people". HOW ABOUT DEALING WITH THE PEOPLE WHO ARE SHO0TING/KILLING PEOPLE IN SA? What an utter MORON! And lets guess what they're going to do with Gaddafi's frozen assets .... zuma cannot run his own country and now he's ego is trying to interfere in Lydia, mind-boggling is putting it mildly.

      Sayi - 2011-03-18 14:16

      onetickie (1-tick) stop ticking my friend

      Mabhulwana - 2011-03-18 17:07

      .... zuma cannot run his own country and now he's ego is trying to interfere in Lydia, mind-boggling is putting it mildly IS IT LYDIA OR LYBIA?

      Jayjay001 - 2011-03-19 19:55

      Mabhulwana - or is it Libya? Would the spelling police please be gone, let's look at the spirit of the law rather than the letter of the law. That means in this instance, if someone is trying to say something under the time constraint pressures of life, let's look past menial mistakes such as silly spelling mistakes.

  • Tacitus - 2011-03-18 13:09

    Great more of our tax money being spent on krap. Why send a team on a "fact finding mission"? FACT: this libyan clown is killing his own people. What does JZ think they are going to find out. Oh wait didn't this Libyan clown sponsor JZ last election, that right, now we know the real reason for the "fact finding" mission.

  • Rich - 2011-03-18 13:09


      Currie_Mafia - 2011-03-18 14:12

      Yep, sniffer dogs can sniff out drugs even if wrapped in camel dung..

  • onetickie - 2011-03-18 13:10

    Oops sorry, typing error in my 2nd comment. LyBia, not Lydia!!

      Jack - 2011-03-18 13:12

      Zooma probably interferred with Lydia as well...wife no 63!?

      exocist - 2011-03-19 19:18

      maybe you should give lydia one tickle if it's a woman if it's a place it must be in another galaxy

  • Brett - 2011-03-18 13:12

    Better not fly in

      DeonL - 2011-03-18 13:20

      Oops, some people would like them to fly in!

  • Shorts1 - 2011-03-18 13:12

    What a complete waste of money!!! Something else that the taxpayer has to pay for. Why doesn't this guy and his cronies rather concentrate fully on doing what really needs to be done here inside this country instead of poking their noses into situations which have been created by various dictators??.

  • Bosmonster - 2011-03-18 13:14

    So, when is Gaddafi moving into Aristide's home?

      Jack - 2011-03-18 13:26

      He's here already, disguised as Barry Ronge!

      exocist - 2011-03-19 19:21

      that home is going to be very full soon it will be the Gadafies and the Zuma's maybe mad bob if they can keep the old baboon alive

  • ji - 2011-03-18 13:16

    well if France does bomb Libya . I only hope that bomb lands on zumas useless team of thieves and does SA a big favour .

      POLLENYS - 2011-03-18 13:35

      And I hope it happens before the team makes a buying trip to Harrods in London. At taxpayers' expense, of course. What a senseless, useless exercise. Typical.

  • davidgrantwood - 2011-03-18 13:21

    Does the "African Union" really think we are SO stupid that we dont know what they are all about? How can we steal? How can we plunder resources? Whats in it for us? How can we get MORE tax for the citizens of Africa? How can we defect attention from our greediness and corrupt activities? us a favour!

  • WillF - 2011-03-18 13:21

    but look what happened to Ivory Coast after Zumi left - it imploded behind him. It's like he walks away from everything with toilet paper hanging out of his pants.

  • paulf - 2011-03-18 13:22

    The bombing is about to start on Libia. Air control has been shut down so there will be no point going now, it is too late!!!!

  • DW - 2011-03-18 13:25

    Like the fact finding missions to Zimbabwe when they were committing huge election fraud...and the mission found the elections to be substantially free and fair! Our fact finding missions will find what they want to find and Gaddafi will come out smelling like roses. Besides, is our team going to walk into the country seeing that there is now a no-fly zone imposed by both the UN and Gaddafi alike?

      exocist - 2011-03-19 19:29

      have you not heard of the african TAXI? have money will travel, the three wise idiots (mission) will probabily fly to some fancy destination on tax money and say they were in Lybia

  • Koos - 2011-03-18 13:26

    Ja zoooma idiot!!!! first sort the crap out in SA you twat!!!

  • paulf - 2011-03-18 13:28

    Commercial air traffic shut down in Libya, Eurocontrol confirms, clearing way for military action after U.N. no-fly vote.

  • Frik - 2011-03-18 13:28

    Typical of the AU All they can do is to go on factfinding missions and suport these gangster tyrants. At least have the Arabs taken a strong stance against this tyrant.

      WiseOwl2 - 2011-03-18 13:45

      You hit the nail on the head. The AU will have fact finding mission till the cows come. The AU missions are an excuse to Pantsula and Poosa !!!

  • coolwaynie - 2011-03-18 13:29

    Just another 40 million more to send and then South Africa is sorted...

  • Richie - 2011-03-18 13:31

    Cwele going to look for some new business for his wife?

  • dies irae - 2011-03-18 13:32

    no fly zone how are they planning on getting in there unless there is something we dont know, these clowns is going to pick up the magician that part they left out and he land back here in SA he will move into his new house in JHB, cant you see the idiotic smoke and mirrors his arab cousin Shaik put up this week.

  • Ben - 2011-03-18 13:34

    Dont bother. Your to late. French is sorting it out.

  • Slapper - 2011-03-18 13:36

    Why cant he sort out the problems here, before he sends joyriders around the World. We have had more shootings and Murders here, since Xmas, than Libya has had in a full year. Perhaps he is mending fences, in case Gaddafi prevails?

  • AMLCFT - 2011-03-18 13:36

    First thing brother leader will say to Cwele - "GO OUT...BLOODY AGENT!!!"

  • Wishbone - 2011-03-18 13:39

    The author has it all wrong! Zuma is sending a team to Libya to learn how to quell an uprising. It's all about skills transfer!

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-03-18 13:40

    Mr Z please stop abusing our taxpaying publics/business money on African matters. We cant even get our own back yard in order! Is there perhaps a hidden agenda.

  • JJ - 2011-03-18 13:41

    I am dam sick of disrespectful people who always attack our president and insulting him. Have respect and I assume some of you are calling themselves christians. Sies this is sick... If any of you are christian then you should know we are commanded to respect leaders as God put them there (whether they perform good or bad is their choice and they will face his judgement for that) and let him be the judge for his own child. Sies so much hatred and jealousy wont get you anywhere you as sick as those doing crazy things. There are countries where you can go to... Oh yes,obvious choices experience natural disasters of biblical proportions and we cannot say the same about SA. So even when we have a crime plague, so everyone has their share worldwide. You are not so holy yourselves and you know why? You are mere men and cannot take God's glory by having a form of godliness but denying the spirit of truth "do not judge others or insult leaders". You are not God and you should worry about your own salvations. This is Africa and we have our won problems and we are God's children as well so back-off on our leaders cause we prayed to have them there when we were treated like animals and we pray when they fail, we pray that they improve and should it not work, we will pray that we get new able leaders and God surely knows what is best amongst this prayers and will answer. If you think you are too holy, then pray he be removed and not insult him or start an uprising and see what happens...

      Peter Redelinghuys - 2011-03-18 13:53

      What? Eish, how can you respect Thieving, murderous thugs, i want some of the holy stuff you smoking! So you prayed these Holy people into power? so then when it all falls you will be with the fallen? Ya didn't think so! Chop! You the type that turns people against God with stupid comments like this! Think before you think of thinking to comment!

      Grant - 2011-03-18 13:58

      Give us a true leader and we will respect and support him (or her) in performing worthwhile leadership. Respect is something that has to be earned, it is not automatically granted. Zuma has to date only earned disrespect and condemnation. "Do not judge others" - being pretty judgemental yourself wouldn't you say?

      Peter Redelinghuys - 2011-03-18 14:01

      Thanks Grant, he gave it away when he opened his mouth, He is a Hypocrite!

      Wishbone - 2011-03-18 14:04

      You forget one thing - respect is earned. Compare how people treat Zuma vs Madiba and there you have the answer. Leave God out of it - He's got his hands full with Japan.

      Shorts1 - 2011-03-18 14:08

      God gave up on this entire world many year's ago when he eventually realised what he had actually created.

      Grant - 2011-03-18 14:13

      Wishbone - spot on! A truly powerful question to put to all the ANC trolls. If I quote you in the future, will I have to pay royalties?

      Dave - 2011-03-18 14:16

      Respect is earned not given

      Wishbone - 2011-03-18 14:26

      Grant, this one's on the house - before it gets nationalized ;)

      AlphaOne - 2011-03-18 14:30

      So why didn't everyone keep quiet and respect the apartheid leaders as well??? You're confused.

      PB - 2011-03-18 14:31

      JJ, holier than thou "Christians" like you is the reason I - and many more like me - will not call oursselves christians. RESPECT IS EARNED, NOT DEMANDED. As Wishbone has said, Madiba has almost 100% of the world's respect, because he has EARNED it. Face it JJ, the characters of the current bunch of fools that you and your moronic 1-braincell receivers of yellow T-shirts has voted into power is very far removed from Madiba and those who united South Africa into wanting to do what is best for ALL.

      Wishbone - 2011-03-18 14:32

      Grant, this one's on the house - before it gets nationalized ;)

      Circuswatch - 2011-03-18 14:33

      Dear JJ, What a lot of ignorant drivel. Get a life!!!

      Wishbone - 2011-03-18 14:42

      Grant, this one's on the house - before it gets nationalized ;)

      Len - 2011-03-18 14:43

      jj you'r a pratt

      Ingie - 2011-03-18 14:54

      God never put him there you dumb M.F...and why would God do that when Zuma and all the others are crooks, a fraudsters, a thieves, liers,has how many wives and is maybe a murderer. All the sins that the 10 commandments say you must not do. You maybe be Gods children but you are all brainwashed by the ANC hence NO BRAINS you moron go get a life

      John-andrew - 2011-03-18 15:31

      GOD did not put him there the devil did, to keep the white man out of heaven, with him and all his clowns how can we not get angry. everyday i open a news paper, i read about murders off white farmers, rape, corruption by blacks, look whats happening in black schools stabbing the teacher, so no i don't swear and don't get angry, no i am not a racist I JUST DON'T LIKE BLACKS. - 2011-03-18 17:31

      Dont know what Bible you've been reading m8 but "do not judge others or insult leaders" does not stand anywhere in it. "Do not Judge" or "Do on to Other that which you would do onto yourself" those are part of the bible. Oh wait! damn, forgot sorry m8. You are right, yup, just read it in the holy ANC Bib-bley. It's that other version of Christianity which has changed the text to what suites them best.

      Heks - 2011-03-18 21:59

      Shu JJ you don't need to go to church on Sunday. You have already given the sermon

  • PilgrimX - 2011-03-18 13:47

    Please Mr. Zuma, stop wasting my taxmoney on fruitless factfinding excursions. What do you think you can accomplish over there? What are you going to do with the "facts". I do not wish to make a tax contribution for you to "sort out" Libya. You cannot even sort out your own country.

      Heks - 2011-03-18 22:03

      PilgrimX... Don't think Mr Zuma will see your comment or any other. He doesn't give a damn what any SAfrican thinks anyway!

  • Proffie - 2011-03-18 13:50

    What fact finding mission? Buy that man a TV, or lend him a stolen one and a decoder. All he has to do is tune into CNN, Skynews or Al Jazeera. Its there, right in front of his eyes. Save us a few tax bucks.

  • CvdH - 2011-03-18 13:56

    Wahahaha .... its a "f_ck-finding mission". For the ANC and this government, everything they do is a mission!

  • YES - 2011-03-18 13:56

    I have no problem with the move undertaken as long as it will bear fruits for the sake of that country. However, my gripe with President Zuma is his pechant to shooting himself on the foot eachtime he speaks. For instance, he claims to have berated Gaddafi for "shooting his people" when our own compatriots are everyday subjected to shooting by his own police without any word from him. He can't have voice now when his own cabinet has decreed "shoot-to-kill" policy by the SAPS?!

  • kratos - 2011-03-18 13:57

    why dont concentrate on issues in your own country like stopping protests in townships...f zuma you make me sick

  • Mike or Mpho - 2011-03-18 14:01

    I am sure the whole world will listen what this clown and his comrades have to say to Gaddafi

  • juan.coetzee - 2011-03-18 14:02

    Will this be the same as the one to Zimbabwe, where it never got released to the public? NATO is looking at bombing this tyrant, and you want to do "fact finding"? Pathetically slow, JZ. Can't help wondering if the next lecturer at UNISA in the department of corruption and nepotism is not gong to be Mr. Gadaffi, to replace Aristide. After all, we don't want to loose street cred with all the tin-pot dictators out there by not supporting them. We are such friends with ALL of them, like Cuba, Venezuela, Libya, Nicaragua and pretty much any crappy communist inspired piece of misery out there.

  • Ingie - 2011-03-18 14:03

    WTF for he cannot even sort out his own country's problems. So there goes out tax money on another air flight...Fool

      mikeyj87 - 2011-03-18 14:45

      Agree - going on a fact finding mission? what a joke, but then you must remember that the ANC owes all the dictators in Africa, including Mugabe and Gadaffi, as they "supported" them during the struggle so there is no way in hell, they will stand against them. Same goes for all the other alliances they have made inside and outside the country, the phrase "theres no free lunches" comes to mine! They are going to live to regret this and continue to look like and be an absolute bunch of plonkers forever more

  • Yucca - 2011-03-18 14:08

    no need to send a team to look for facts.... We can tell you the facts already: AFRICA is FULL of DICTATORS!

  • Georgie Bedworth - 2011-03-18 14:11

    How will he get there? Seeing that there is this dark cloud of 'No Fly Zone' in the way?

      John-andrew - 2011-03-18 15:45

      They are not going there, all just a scam, next week you will read in newspapers, 2bil for fact find mission,its just a cover up to put money in some assholes pocket.

  • Kirsty - 2011-03-18 14:14

    So they're going to walk there or go by bus? I guess Zuma hasn't got the memo on the no-fly zone yet. He best warn his team beforehand that they're going to be dodging the air strikes while they're there. A little late Mr Zuma

  • paulf - 2011-03-18 14:16

    Too late, Gadaffi will be dead by the time they get there.

      PB - 2011-03-18 14:39

      Let's hope he doesn't do a Sadam...

  • threezero - 2011-03-18 14:20

    Fact finding mission, hahaha!! first thing they will try to "find" is a KFC.

      Koos - 2011-03-18 14:34

      or a mcdonalds!

  • Ross - 2011-03-18 14:20

    Send them to Zimbabwe instead. The bugger is starting with his nonsense again by attacking oposition members

  • TGSA - 2011-03-18 14:21

    Well, with a non-fly zone over Libya and Libya having closed their airspace, I wonder how far they get? Maybe, they go shopping to Dubai instead?

      ALCAB - 2011-03-18 15:42

      They will be using taxis, as they have no respect for the law.

      Ross - 2011-03-18 16:57

      No, They will be using Camels.

  • bar-one - 2011-03-18 14:30

    More like a FAT finding mission. WTF people are dying and they send some cadres on a state paid holiday to libya . The people being sent are not even qualified enough to find ice in greenland

      Singo - 2011-03-18 16:24

      Why didn't you who is qualified enough to find ice in graceland never voluntered to go to Libya? You are just sitting there complaining,what are you doing to change the situation in Libya? Did you have a transport to go there on your own?

  • Kevin - 2011-03-18 14:32

    Eish -to late or maybe just in time for a RAF Typhoon to give you a warm welcome as your twits go to console gaboof and sons .

  • Notrax123 - 2011-03-18 14:33

    Quote: "We are dealing with a situation in Libya where Gaddafi is shooting his people... I discussed with Gaddafi and I condemned the actions he has undertaken and said it was wrong and he must stop doing it" and now you send a fact finding mission?? Wha a frigging waste of taxpayers money. They will have to keep their heads low, some natural disasters may be hitting Libya this weekend e.g Typhoon's & Tornado's and they may even start to see some Mirage's. Please include Mal-ema and Maniac Manyi in the group, let them go play cowboys with the AA guns. This will be taxpayer's money well spent.

  • shmangle - 2011-03-18 14:37

    Send Malema. Maybe he'll take some shrapnel in his a$$... I mean brain.

  • Common_Sense - 2011-03-18 14:39

    To quote a line from Aliens "He's coming in, I feel safer already"