Zuma wishes Tutu a happy birthday

2011-10-07 13:29

Johannesburg - President Jacob Zuma wished Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu a long and healthy life on his 80th birthday on Friday.

"Archbishop Tutu has a special place in the hearts of our people for the manner in which he stood up against the apartheid state, speaking out against injustice and oppression," Zuma said in a statement

"His campaign against sanctions added greater impetus to that of the liberation movement led by the African National Congress, and kept the spirit of resistance high inside the country."

He said Tutu continued to play an important role in the country, and was admired by thousands of South Africans.

"As one of our four Nobel Peace Prize laureates, we respect him, love him and always welcome his counsel on issues. Happy Birthday Arch, ukhule njalo!"

Tutu was born in 1931 in Klerksdorp, west of Johannesburg.

He sharply attacked the ANC earlier in the week over the way the government had handled a visa application by Tibean spiritual leader the Dalai Lama.

"I am warning you like I warned the Nationalists that one day we will start praying for the defeat of the ANC government. You are disgraceful," he said.

The Dalai Lama cancelled a planned trip to South Africa to attend Tutu's 80th birthday celebrations.

At the time he was still awaiting a decision on his visa.

His office said: "We are now convinced that for whatever reason or reasons, the South African government finds it inconvenient to issue a visa to... the Dalai Lama."

  • Daveza - 2011-10-07 13:37

    [As one of our four Nobel Peace Prize laureates, we respect him] One word JZ- Hypocrite. Shame on you.

      Matt :-) - 2011-10-07 13:41

      "President Jacob Zuma wished Archbishop Emeritus Desmond Tutu a long and healthy life on his 80th birthday on Friday." To which Tutu responded "hamba wena uShowerhead, maaifoedie" *dream* would have made for a lovely article

      supporter - 2011-10-07 14:02

      zuma is trying to kiss and make up. poor thing. Hope Tutu sends him to hell

      Johnny-BB - 2011-10-07 14:10

      Dear God, ....please save this country from the corrupt and incompetent ANC... .....Amen..

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-07 14:14

      If he has a "special place in the government's heart", WHY, OH WHY DID YOU LET HIM DOWN BY NOT GRANTING HIS WISH FOR HIS FRIEND TO BE HERE? YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE - (Read that in neon flashing lights spread over every bridge in South Africa)!!!!! You speak with a forked tongue!!!

      Dave - 2011-10-07 14:21

      I'm sure the Arch is feeling all warm and fuzzy inside

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-07 14:22

      Just had to share this really great laugh with regulars on News24 Have a fantastic weekend!!!

      THE-SRG - 2011-10-07 14:31

      but still no comment from him on the visa story...what a tit...he has time to blame the Khoisan stuff on European colonists but no time to explain himself on this f up

      THE-SRG - 2011-10-07 14:50

      apparently news 24 is the new area 51 and malema is their alien body.... everything will be erased and not spoken of.

      Slartibartfast - 2011-10-07 14:54

      Dave ... I think ... unfortunately .... he may be! He is a good hearted soft soul! Unfortunately.

      farmworker - 2011-10-07 19:41

      @Matt :-) crazy jokes

  • Ryan77 - 2011-10-07 13:38

    Tutu, you got played by your own government!! Are you till thinking about TAXING white more? Anyway, happy!

      mkerruish - 2011-10-07 14:13

      Ryan77, please look at the original transcript of what the Arch said. He did NOT propose a white-guilt-tax as made out in the media. He proposed a wealth tax and, given that the TRC proposed a one-off 1% tax on corporates that was REJECTED BY THABO MBEKI'S ANC, the situation may become somewhat clearer.

      thozi - 2011-10-07 15:04

      Ryan77, there's nothing wrong when one is criticised, as long as the criticism is fair and is based on the truth. Unfortunately and sadly, yours is neither fair nor truthful, it is simply an attempt at the denigration of the Archbishop.

      Ryan77 - 2011-10-07 15:09

      Thanks for your comments. But I do have 23 thumb ups, which means that there are people that feel the same as I do.

      Dave Black - 2011-10-07 19:03

      Ryan77 - it means there are whites prejudiced as you

  • Matt :-) - 2011-10-07 13:39

    We can comment again! It's a miracle!

  • MojoBa - 2011-10-07 13:44

    Happy Birthday, Tata!!!!!! Zuma, you can't fix this crap by being superficially nice suddenly.

      Slartibartfast - 2011-10-07 14:56

      MojoBa .... once again ... unfortunately .... in the minds of the masses .... he can .... unfortunately.

      thozi - 2011-10-07 15:12

      To be fair to Mr Zuma, he has always differed with the Arch politically and morally. But in terms of respect, unlike President Mugabe, Mr Zuma has always responded to the Arch's disagreements with utmost respect and politeness. That, you have to give to President Zuma.

      Karoobloed - 2011-10-07 18:54

      100% agree with Thozi - Jacb Zuma is a much better and kinder leader than Mugabe. He is not perfect, but many South Africans only realize in retrospect when they had a good thing.

  • leonard - 2011-10-07 13:48

    Careful ARCH.Zuma`s greeting and good wishes has an ulterior motiff.You have been warned.Give South Africa a present on your birthday,announce that you have joined the opposition.In this way you will bring millions of voters with you and we then have a chance of defeating the evil ANC.Have a very happy birthday.

      GypseyAnn - 2011-10-07 14:15

      From your lips to God's ears Leonard!!!

      wjdladla - 2011-10-08 20:42

      What is your motiff leonard?

  • Colin - 2011-10-07 13:51

    Doesn't this just fly in the face of Umkhonto We Sizwe veterans who yesterday announced they were praying for the Arch's swift departure. Hypocrisy is a very lamentable character trait Jacob..

      Daveza - 2011-10-07 14:02

      I have no doubt which prayers would go to the top of the inbox.

  • Spetnaz - 2011-10-07 13:51

    zoooomaaaaaa... guess what....... maaifoedies!

  • BUGATTI - 2011-10-07 13:51

    MegaMaaiFoefie ?

  • JustinD - 2011-10-07 13:52

    Happy Birthday Arch....

  • WiseOwl2 - 2011-10-07 13:58

    Best wishes TUTU - does this Jakklas Zuma really wish you with sincerity !!!

  • Shorts1 - 2011-10-07 14:08

    Amazing that this guy, who had the power to instruct Home Affairs to grant to Dalai Lama a visa at short notice, but by failing to do so has in essence spoilt Archbishop Tutu's celebrations, has the audacity to still wish him a Happy Birthday. JZ needs to realise that actions are much stronger than words.

  • marco - 2011-10-07 14:09

    In an interview with Karen Allen from the BBC yesterday Tutu admitted he was "very, very angry" but felt bad about his reactions in saying that he would pray for the defeat of the ANC Government and that the ANC party was "worse than the apartheid government". The Archbishop Desmond Tutu showed genuine contrite over his behaviour and said:"I will count to 10 and take a deep breath".Ultimately if CHINA was the real reason behind the not issuing the Dalai Lama the visa then sentimentality and morality seems not to be the more important issue than trade and investment with China.Two way trade between CHINA and the whole of AFRICA currently stands at 110BILION USD a year and in the year 2000 it was only $10billion USD so you do the maths and figure out which of the two things takes precedence for South Africa's interest.South Africa is not the only country when it comes to controversy with the Dalai Lama's overseas travels.Two years ago,in 2009,President Barack Obama was the first US president in 20 years not to grant the Dalai Lama an audience at the White House.Obama eventually met him in July,but kept the visit at a very low key.The Dalai Lama only wants to visit Tutu and nothing more to it,yet China for some reason has always sought to curb the Dalai Lama's overseas travels,warning host nation governments that any visit would harm their bilateral ties with CHINA.Crazy but what can you do if you need Chinese investment!!!

      nspaynter - 2011-10-07 14:22

      And boycott Chinese made SA Rugby Jerseys.....

      Jo - 2011-10-07 14:55

      @ Marco: I could understand the govt. not choosing to receive the Dalai Lama as a STATE guest, the problem is that this was as a PRIVATE guest. And re the trade figures - trade is not charity - China is getting something valuable out of this trade, and is not likely to shut it down and move it on a whim. India is a major part of the BRIC trade group and the Dalai Lama LIVES in India!?! Yesterday someone who has had extensive dealings with China told me this: "you have to stand firm and stand up for yourself when dealing with China - if not, you lose honour and face." The way this was handled was wrong in every possible way. But this is what happens when everyone is too arrogant to learn anything from anyone about anything.

      Antwahn - 2011-10-07 15:12

      So marco, what you are saying is that the Arch regrets calling a spade a spade? But what you are also may be saying is that other countries do heed China's blackmail as well -but very few go as far as doing China's complete bidding. (And don't forget the US's enormous, precarious trade deficit, debt with China -no such thing for SA!) BTW, there is a direct correlation between countries' trade with China, and their hosting of the Dalai Lama; it decreased about 10% (I seem to recall) -on average. But this only extended to the first year after this hosting -thereafter it was as per normal. My humble opinion: for SA to be so weak-hearted and FULLY accede to China's blackmail, it has gained China's permanent contempt. And this will manifest itself in the future -guaranteed! There were alternatives to non-issuing a visa. But the malfoedies decided to be China's whore. should be: "China showed genuine CONTRITION"

      Antwahn - 2011-10-07 15:19

      Thanks Jo for pointing this out; I need to clarify: in the correlation I mentioned, only hosting by the State was considered as detrimental. The Dalai Lama travels all over the world, pretty much unhindered. China invoking trade-penalties for merely issuing a visa is unheard of!

  • GypseyAnn - 2011-10-07 14:13

    If he has a special place in the government's heart, WHY, OH WHY DID YOU LET HIM DOWN BY NOT GRANTING HIS WISH FOR HIS FRIEND TO BE HERE? YOU ARE A HYPOCRITE - (Read that in neon flashing lights spread over every bridge in South Africa)!!!!!

  • makati - 2011-10-07 14:14

    i don't believe that Tutu can get a nobel prize and Mandela has to share it with de klerk how insane is that?

      leonard - 2011-10-07 14:22

      @makati......Not that this is the forum to discuss this BUT you are an ignorant semi literate ingrate.If it was not for de Klerk we would have had a flucking bloodbath in this country.Is that what fools like you would have Klerk was the real hero in this country,don`t forget this.AH

      nspaynter - 2011-10-07 14:25

      It's because Mandela and de Klerk did it TOGETHER. They're an example of true South Africans. I am proud of them both.

      Together - 2011-10-07 15:00

      I guess, like most of SA's history, apparently you had to personally be there to understand it. Unless you want to take the trouble to, I don't know, maybe go and read a clear account of the role each one played? Not the rewritten nonsense version you may have been fed by other people aged 25 years who don't know, but an actual factual account. All the information that whites appear to know mysteriously is really available to anyone at their fingertips - Google, the library, your elders - plenty of information on why the Nobel Prize was split between them.

      nspaynter - 2011-10-07 15:06

      The Nobel Peace Prize 1993 was awarded jointly to Nelson Mandela and Frederik Willem de Klerk "for their work for the peaceful termination of the apartheid regime, and for laying the foundations for a new democratic South Africa"

      nspaynter - 2011-10-07 15:12

      To tell you the truth, in 1993 I had no support for Nelson Mandela. I actually hated him. But as he ruled as President he earned my respect and my support through his actions. He was a truly a great leader. A pity he is so silent today.

      thozi - 2011-10-07 15:16

      nspaynter, I echo your statement 100%!

      Totman - 2011-10-07 15:24

      ...or you could have said that De Klerk had to share it with Mandela. No, it does not work like that. It is not something like a bread that one man gets and another two must share. If you recall( I am not sure how old you are) they got it for their peace effort. Seeing that it was still early days, without a track record on success, there was no ground to give it to only one off them, but the effort together made it rewarding enough.

  • KG - 2011-10-07 14:20

    That we call it technical drama.

  • amos.kgosiemang1 - 2011-10-07 14:22

    Thank you JZ our president your message shows the spirit of Ubuntu,we can differ & become angry as much as we can but still we need each other.Our Grandfather Tutu belong to us,he is one of our icon we ever had,his views,and input cannot be ignored by anyone among ourselves.Like any South African he has the right to be angry,and express himself because of new dispensation brought by Anc.

      mkerruish - 2011-10-07 14:50

      Then why didn't JZ make that clear in his birthday wishes to the Arch? It was a perfect opportunity.

      Together - 2011-10-07 16:40

      I agree with you, Amos.

  • BlackWhite - 2011-10-07 14:24

    What did President Zuma do wrong in this visa debacle? There is a department that deals with visa applications. They have said what the problem was with the application. What more do we want to see JZ do? Should he have handled that application himself? You seem to have a problem with the President, i thought Mr Tutu was the only one. Well done Mr President for showing these idiots that you are a human being with UBUNTU. You dont hold grudges.

      Antwahn - 2011-10-07 14:47

      You ARE thick, no? He failed (as he does in all) to instruct Foreign Affairs to reverse the order not to issue the Dalai Lama. Said order came to FA, from the ANC executive in the first place. YOU GET IT NOW? (Another hopeless numbskull / Purveyor of Mafoedie Bulldung)

      marco - 2011-10-07 14:55

      It's not as if the Dalai Lama is a foreign dignitary or diplomat on the same level as the Queen of England say.He is just a monk from Tibet,their spiritual leader and that's that.China however don't recognize the Lama's position or claims of what he says he is and therefore Zuma don't need to say or do anything more with this particular Lama.Zuma offcourse can still show the man the necessary courtesy and be respectful of him whilst he was in South Africa with Tutu and that's it,but there is no need for any of the proper etiquettes of "please to meet you" and "how do you do?" garbage that comes with special visits to South Africa.So to be fare to Zuma he handle this outrage from Tutu well enough to say the least.No rude behavior or displaying of any disrespect from Zuma unto thy Archbishop Desmond Tutu at all in what has to be a very,very awkward situation for the Government.

      lucas - 2011-10-07 14:59

      BW you are typical of those who conveniently separate the ANC and the state when it serves you, but when there is money to be made then the ANC and the state is always one unit. Suddenly FA follows no directives from the ANC? You can believe this rotgut.

      brian'briag bee' - 2011-10-07 15:10

      Thank You!! people must stop to use their political differences in matters like this and face the facts

      Totman - 2011-10-07 15:41

      @ BlackWhite. It is simple! HE KEPT QUIET!!!!! He is the 1st citizen of this country and should have not allowed that other citizens/employees do not do their work and cause a incident for SA. His method of keeping quiet and hope something will go away or dilute becomes worst than Mbeki's silence. No, he did not do UBUNTU. He was doing his job because he knows not wishing such a prominent citizen well will cause a bigger problem. By the way. The application was not handled by Home affairs. It was done by International affairs. They need half the info to react and can do approvals in less than a hour....if they want to. Read what the minister of Home Affairs said. This was 100% a political incident that turned sour. The word "incompetency" to make hair split decisions came to mind. Lets rather call it on it's name and hope a lesson was learned.

  • amabok - 2011-10-07 14:32

    Zuma = ANC = Cowards = Moral Bankruptcy = Slave = Disgrace = Shame = Global Laughing Stock

  • Andor - 2011-10-07 14:33

    Just have a look at the front page of this website everyday. What do you see? What is so different to a western country? All you see is brutal murders Raping of paramedics tryin to help someone else Killing of elederly people Government stealing money Our leaders sing kill the boer Someone gets axed Stealing Robbing woman gets raped while in hospital because of cancer Now ask me why am I angry inside? If there is going to be a spark I will be first to ignite. I cannot take this BS anymore. The we must educate and take them on as brothers, shame teach them our language and written books. Everything they learn is from us. Looking at the big picture here man this country is completely f#$cked

  • Antwahn - 2011-10-07 14:34

    Did he now? 'Bit like kicking a man in the nuts, and then wishing him well...

  • Mnumzane - 2011-10-07 14:43

    Tutu is a happy man today as he managed to get the attention he wanted when he said Apartheid Govt was better than the current Govt.

      lucas - 2011-10-07 15:09

      Mnumzane you must remove your welding goggles (they are not RayBans), and see that this man does not need the limelight, as he has his own light that shines far brighter than the candles that JZ and his cronies are lighting. Our country is in trouble precisely because the ANC has you completely fooled. If by some miracle we could resurrect Chris Hani, or even Steve Biko, they would most likely want to return to their graves, as the current bunch of looters that are governing us is more than sickening. Also with our puterate education system we will see a whole crop of semi-literates in the future, with no ability to reason clearly and logically. Just like you.

  • Deset Rat - 2011-10-07 14:44

    JZ wishing TU TU a happy birthday! How cynical is that?

  • brian'briag bee' - 2011-10-07 14:47

    Well said Mr president,no hard feelings, Nothing to apologies. Happy 80th birth day Arch Tutu, We love you.

      david mlaba - 2011-10-08 01:18

      Brian, you fell for the bait!

  • Mtizozo - 2011-10-07 15:02

    His name is called Gedleyhlekisa,, you know what does that mean?

      mkerruish - 2011-10-07 15:05

      No, but I'm sure that you are more than willing to tell us. Shikata ga nai. Wakarimasu ka?

      thozi - 2011-10-07 15:22

      Yes, "The President of South Africa" - what else?

  • call a spade - 2011-10-07 15:06

    The Arch should officially and publically join the DA to help his country.

  • malvernb - 2011-10-07 15:11

    MALUME Zuma is a true leader. I hope Tutu has made peace with himself. As man of GOD he must not bear grudges but rather forgive.

      Daveza - 2011-10-07 15:18

      Leaders have backbones and a sense of direction.

      mkerruish - 2011-10-07 15:34

      "As a man of GOD he must not bear grudges but rather forgive". Rather like Jesus in the Temple with the moneylenders did?

      Antwahn - 2011-10-07 15:39

      malvenrb -jy is sowaar mal. How the f*ck can you call this spineless, corrupt non-entity, destroyer of this beautiful country, "a true leader"? He does not know the meaning of the verb "to lead". Why is he great, because he needs to do some lame PR exercise and congratulate a man who wished his maifoedies to oblivion only days ago? But if Tutu won't bear a grudge for long, millions of us do -we curse Zuma and his maifoedies for wrecking SA. We pray hard for the downfall of the maifoedies!

  • Nkutist - 2011-10-07 15:26

    Lol what a publicity stunt... Politicians, never take them seriously!!!

  • Mgayi - 2011-10-07 15:33

    Noted and Thanks Mr President , now please reopen the hotline so that The Arch can call you directly and not have to warn you via the media . "heeey , heeey wena I am warning you .. you are a disgrace"

  • mac-sdi - 2011-10-07 15:33

    Zuma must be recalled

      Antwahn - 2011-10-07 15:53

      I can't recall JZ doing any good.

  • david mlaba - 2011-10-08 01:25

    OK, here's our cunning plan, guys.... We delay as long as we can. If we don't do anything then the public can say all they want but we can argue that it takes time to process the visa. If the Dalai Lama cancels, we are safe. If he doesn't, we stall him until he can't come. Brilliant! Either way, we still wish the Arch a happy birthday. What a plan! We are good. We are great. We are the ANC!

  • david mlaba - 2011-10-08 01:37

    As a South African, I feel that ANC has betrayed the very constitution it that so many of our parents died for. We arrived at this awkward position because of the inability to govern properly and develop the rich human resources at our disposal. So now we are in the position of a weak and dependent economy, one that must prostitute itself to other stronger countries and lose our autonomy. No amount of ANC rhetoric can convince me that this is otherwise. The plain fact is that they put themselves in the position of the weak and must now be dictated by a country who's own regime was like the Apartheid one. The principals have been lost. Fifteen years without service delivery. Every year I pray for a turnaround, for a return to their, these are good people, our brothers...they deserve another chance. But how many chances must we give? How many chances do we allow a thief to steal from us, before we say enough is enough? Must we wait another 15 years? When will we reach the threshold? Did we die for principles that are now meaningless except for nice speeches? When promises are the same year after year and the lack of improvement in life is the same year to year, we are going to reach our grave with a life of excuses. Maybe it's time for real change.

      leonard - 2011-10-08 06:46

      @david mlaba.....You sir are a man of vision and insight.Your name tells me you are a proud black man and this to me is of great importance.Thank G-D more people of your ilk are standing up and voiceing their displeasure and opinions on the melt down in our country.I salute you.

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