OVERVIEW: Experts cite importance of SA #StateCaptureInquiry in setting model for other countries

2018-08-31 16:30

Following testimony from acting GCIS DG Phumla Williams, the commission of inquiry into state capture wrapped up with expert witnesses from Washington, US, who expanded on what the term 'state capture' actually encompasses.

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Zondo thanks Kaufmann and Hellman for their input, says he has questions, but will reserve it for them when they come to SA to attend the commission of inquiry, at a later date.

Proceedings adjourn for the day.


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Kaufmann speaks about the importance of an uncompromised and healthy judicial system, and praises South Africa's judiciary. 

Kaufmann also goes on to explain how absolutely critical transparency is, as well as accountability.


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Kaufmann does however say it does not mean that state-owned enterprises must not be privatised. How it is done, is important, he says.


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Hellman says the privatisation of state-owned enterprises can make them vulnerable to state capture. State-owned enterprises "can become this remarkable arena for state capture" he explains, saying the captors often push for privatisation.


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Kaufmann deals with state capture and state-owned enterprises, and Hellman expands on his explanation.


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The legal team asks Kaufmann and Hellman to expand on their statement that "state capture is a product of the systemic failure of governance". 


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Kaufmann explains the far-reaching consequences of state capture on a country's economy, cites examples of countries going through a recession.


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Kaufmann cites a paper called "Legal Corruption", says state capture networks use illicit means to override laws governing conflicts, executive ethics, lobbying, etc.


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Kauffmann says in countries where there is also a thriving media, where there is civic space (healthy civil society), and civil liberties, there is a much better chance of addressing the challenge of state capture.


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Hellman and Kaufmann heavily cite examples from the former Soviet Union.


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Hellman: With state capture, it is a form of corruption that affects the very formation of laws, rules and regulations, so that the "laws, rules and regulations were shaped to the advantage of individuals or firms and they were using their close relationship to politicians and public officials in order to actually shape the legal system and indeed, the very nature of the state, to their own advantage."

Hellman explains how state capture differs from "administrative corruption".


31 Aug 15:06

Hellman commends the commission for their efforts, and for the country's "systematic" approach in understanding and dealing with state capture.


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The expert witnesses Dr Kauffman and Dr Hellman, experts who have written extensively on state capture, are on the video link from Washington, in the US. They are now being sworn in.


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The video link with the expert witnesses has been established. Proceedings to resume shortly.


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Proceedings adjourn until 14:30 to prepare for the expert witnesses. 


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Williams is excused as a witness for now, to make way for expert witnesses who have been scheduled to testify after the lunch adjournment, via videoconference

Williams will return on Monday at 10:00 to continue with her testimony.


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Advocate Paul Pretorius now consulting with Zondo on the matter of Manyi's text to Williams while she was on a brief break from delivering testimony at the commission of inquiry. 

Pretorius reminds Zondo that it is an "offence" to prejudice the inquiry and its proceedings.

The regulations also allow Zondo to summon Manyi to explain his conduct. 

The safety of the witnesses at the commission are important, Pretorius says. 

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