AS IT HAPPENED: Abrahams grilled in Parliament over Gordhan

2016-11-04 09:32

NPA head Shaun Abrahams is addressing Parliament's justice committee on the decision to drop the charges against Pravin Gordhan.


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04 Nov 13:03
NPA head Shaun Abrahams had no intention of causing any distress to Finance Minister Pravin Gordhan and two former Sars senior officials, Oupa Magashula and Ivan Pillay when he announced charges of fraud against them, he told Parliament on Friday.

04 Nov 12:59
Motshekga: The heavens will not fall if I declare this meeting closed.

04 Nov 12:59
Chairperson closing the meeting, says they reserve right to meet and deliberate further on these questions.

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Abrahams: You cannot review a matter prior to a decision being made to prosecute.

04 Nov 12:52
Abrahams says he has reviewed 94 cases in total, and disagreed with prosecutor decision in 16 and overruled them.

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Motshekaga: Its irrelevant where meetings takes place.

Mulder says it is: "We all know political decisions are made at Luthuli House".

04 Nov 12:44
Chair says the committee must avoid manipulating public opinion by casting aspersions on invited guests etc.

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04 Nov 12:39
Pilane-Majake raises fact that no one ever stays in the NPA as National Director of Prosecutions.

04 Nov 12:38
Pilane Majake tells Abrahams there is nothing wrong with visiting the ANC. "If you are working for NPA, you are working on mandate of ANC"

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Bhongo says Abrahams has not been captured by anyone.

04 Nov 12:30
ANC's Bhongo says he has confidence in the NPA.

04 Nov 12:26
ANC Bhongo to Abrahams: "The first people to call for your resignation is Hon. Breytenbach, who's currently facing charges in court."

04 Nov 12:19

Mulder: Where did the meeting with you and the minister take place on 4 Oct?

Abrahams: I think it was at his office. I'm sure it was.

04 Nov 12:17
Abrahams: I want to assure the public that when I reviewed I did so on the merits of the matter and legal grounds, not due to public pressure.

04 Nov 12:04
Abrahams: equality before the law applies to everyone.

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Abrahams again says he was satisfied about the merits of the case, which is why he had made the announcement.

04 Nov 12:00
Chair says committee should be done by 12.30pm, ANC MPs haven't had a chance to ask questions yet though.

04 Nov 11:58
Abrahams says he doesn't have any handlers.

04 Nov 11:58
Abrahams - "I deny this was part of systematic blunder."

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04 Nov 11:50
Matiase tells Abrahams not to blame anyone for the hostility he faces in Parliament and everywhere, it is his own making.

04 Nov 11:50
EFF's MP Matiase advises Abrahams to resign. "You are not fit to hold office"

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Matiase is taking a while to get to his questions...

04 Nov 11:37
EFF's Matiase says it was in Abrahams' right to tell Justice Minister it was not appropriate to meet at Luthuli House.

04 Nov 11:36
Matiase says Abrahams owes the Gordhan an apology.

04 Nov 11:36
Matiase questions whether Abrahams spent enough time reading up on his powers in the NPA.

04 Nov 11:33
Now asking questions is EFF MP Matiase.

04 Nov 11:30
Abrahams now on the economy and how it should not depend on one man. He says his comment on economy was not meant to be insensitive or meant to be negative at all.

04 Nov 11:28
"I'd like more media coverage of our successes than failures" - Abrahams

04 Nov 11:27
Abrahams says all the fingers being pointed at the NPA did not bode well for the NPA, but they will continue to fight with fear or favour.

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Abrahams: I want the public to believe that the institution will always do what is right.

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Abrahams: You question on how did it get to this point is very important.

04 Nov 11:25
Abrahams says they never have prosecutor driven cases, called prosecutor 'guided' investigations.

04 Nov 11:24
Chair says MPs must put questions without preambles, it's a Friday.

04 Nov 11:24
Swart raises the fact that Abrahams has said "the economy did not depend on one man".

04 Nov 11:24
ACDP MP Swart wants to know what the situation with the rogue unit is and if Abrahams will be more involved considering the last case.

04 Nov 11:16

ACDP's Swart says the timing of the charges is suspect.

"For weeks before there was rumours of possible charges" he says.

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