OVERVIEW: Bosasa spent between 'R4m and R6m a month' in cash bribes - Agrizzi at #StateCaptureInquiry

2019-01-16 16:00

Former Bosasa chief operations officer Angelo Agrizzi has revealed details of how much the company spent in bribes on a monthly basis, during his testimony at the judicial commission of inquiry into state capture.

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16 Jan 16:00

And with that, Zondo adjourns proceedings until tomorrow morning. 

16 Jan 15:59

Zondo asks Agrizzi about the nature of the cash bribes, what the lowest, and the highest amounts were. 

Agrizzi: "The lowest was about R5 000... and the highest about R1-million." 

Pretorius: "Per month?!" 

Agrizzi: "Yes, per month." 

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Agrizzi says the amount spent in cash "bribes" would amount to R4m-R6m a month. 

16 Jan 15:51

Agrizzi details the criteria behind the decisions on who would get payments, and why.

Agrizzi confirms that Watson was the ultimate decision maker.

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Agrizzi explains a "code" system he used to keep track of who the money was going to, how much, and who it was delivered by.

"It was made up in my head," Agrizzi tells the commission.

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Agrizzi tells the commission that it was his duty to keep track of the cash being taken out of the safe, which he used a little black book for.

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Agrizzi essentially saying "bribe money" was kept in Watson's safe.

Agrizzi: "He referred to the money as monopoly money."

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Agrizzi now detailing the nature of Gavin Watson's "walk-in" vault, says there were also a number of smaller safes in the vault, and the beauty of the vault was that it was "impenetrable".

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AA: I can recall packing and delivering the cash to some of these individuals.

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PP: Was this once off?

AA: No, it was a regular event. It continued until I left. (Monthly cash payments).

The payments to ACSA officials were on a monthly basis, Agrizzi tells Zondo. 

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AA: I later started arranging payments, which confirmed earlier suspicions that the ACSA officials were getting cash. 

16 Jan 15:14
PP: Money was not always visible? AA: Yes, the way it was packed you could see it was cash. I had also received one of those bags (on a monthly basis) I knew what was in those bags.

16 Jan 15:12
AA: Grey plastic bags were handed to these and other officials at ACSA. The plastic bags were security bags, tamper proof seals - in this case, not translucent. Cash would be packed in those bags and given to people. 

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Agrizzi says he was told by Watson that they should get ready because the tender would be awarded to them. 

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Number next, Airports Company of South Africa tender to guard the multi-story parkade at OR Tambo International. 

He says they were awarded a tender for guarding the multi-story parkade at OR Tambo international airport. He says he was responsible for the submission of the tender. 

16 Jan 15:02

PP: Did Mr Mapisa enjoy any other benefits?

AA: Yes, Ronnie Watson had a game farm in the Eastern Cape (Gavin Watson's other brother) and Mr Mapisa would go hunting there and we (Bosasa) would transport the meat.

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AA: We spent a free day after the expo shopping. We bought Cartier pens and cufflinks, Montblanc pens and cufflinks - premium gifts, for Mr Manyatsi and Mr Mapisa.

PP: Did Gavin Watson tell you of the fate of these gifts?

AA: Yes, he told me he gave them to him. I met Mr Mapisa somewhere afterwards and he thanked me for it. 

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PP: Did Siviwe Mapisa held shares in a company, if i recall correctly, Vulisango, belonging to Gavin Watson's brother, Valence. 

AA: Gavin Watson - said he (Watson) was "looking after them". (He was paying them). 

PP: What happened after that?

AA: We went to the Dubai Trade show on security technology - I was looking at bringing new technology in for Bosasa. 

16 Jan 14:52

AA: Originally a three year contract awarded in 2000, then extended for two years.

PP: In relation to the awarding of this tender, did Watson mention any names? 

AA: Yes, Siviwe Mapisa, at the time head of security for SAPO and Mandla Manyatsi, the then CEO of SA Post Office.

16 Jan 14:51

PP: What happened with this contract?

AA: Bosasa held the contract from 99 to 2002. We unbundled Bosasa operations and sold off some of the contracts. 

The Sasol contract was sold to a company owned by Gregg Lacon-Allan - who had worked with Agrizzi at Molope foods. Earlier we heard that Agrizzi left Molope to join Bosasa.

16 Jan 14:50

Simon Mofokeng would later become CEPPWAWU secretary general. 

The cost of the gifts to Mofokeng were written off in the Bosasa books as marketing costs, at an average of R15 000 a month. 

Agrizzi now talks about a tender awarded to Bosasa to provide security at SA post offices. He says he was responsible for the submission of the tender. 

Agrizzi says in relation to the tender being awarded, Watson mentioned Siviwe Mapisa and Mandla Manyatsi. He says Watson told him that he was paying them.  

16 Jan 14:48

Agrizzi candidly details how Bosasa paid for "meats and cold drinks" on a monthly basis to Simon Mofokeng in exchange for his influence to get the Sasol catering tender. 

Agrizzi is straightforward - it was a bribe.

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AA: In the Sasol tender, Mr Mofokeng had an influence.

PP: Did Simon Mofokeng assist Gavin Watson or Bosasa in any other manner?

AA: No. 

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AA: I was requested to go to Sasol, meet with a certain person in procurement to ask if we could submit an updated cost structure. 

AA: This was accepted and Sasol eventually awarded the tender to Dyambu/Bosasa. 

AA: The procurement official was quite annoyed, they had been instructed by the higher authority to allow the change. 

16 Jan 14:28

AA: I was asked to rectify the problems with the tender.

PP: What stage in the tender process identified the problems?

AA: The tender period had already lapsed.

Agrizzi agrees it was improper. 

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AA: We had a massive growth spurt from 2001. This includes contracts with various other mines, as well as Sasol and the South African Post Office. Facilities management contracts with Harmony Gold and more. 

AA: The contract to guard Post Offices evolved to pension payout points at branches in Gauteng. 

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