OVERVIEW: Phumla Williams signed off 'irregular' document at GCIS - Manyi to #StateCaptureInquiry

2018-11-14 15:30

Mzwanele Manyi has concluded his testimony in the judicial commission of inquiry into state capture. This after he petitioned the inquiry to allow him to put his version on record, shortly after former public enterprises minister Barbara Hogan wrapped up.

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Deputy Chief Justice Raymond Zondo

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14 Nov 16:29
The commission has adjourned for today. 

14 Nov 16:27

Manyi concludes his testimony. He says he has covered all. 

Zondo says that if Manyi feels that he still has more to share, he will be given more time on the 23rd to do so.

14 Nov 16:24
Manyi now turns to the media. He says that "the media must report what is right". 

14 Nov 16:15
Manyi: The chair will remember that the Chair asked a question if the people on the BAC were from outside - the response from Ms Williams was no some people from outside. Thats wrong. They were all employed by GCIS.

14 Nov 16:14
Manyi: Next issue - she talks to issues of new members, the people who were replaced were sub-standard. Pertinent details regarding the caliber of persons appointed were left out.

14 Nov 16:13
Manyi now details how the media buying sub-structure he created saved GCIS approximately R30-million.

14 Nov 16:11
Manyi: This is the sentiment I left behind. There were no issues. She wrote this in July 2013. I was surprised how she responded to that.

14 Nov 16:10
Manyi: She continues - during the year under review, WE restructured...

14 Nov 16:09
Manyi: I move on to some of the comments that Ms Williams made on the 2012/13 annual report. She said in more than 10 years I have been with GCIS, the importance as functioning as single unit...has never been clearer.

14 Nov 16:08
Manyi: This was right there for everyone to see in the organogram, it was in the annual report. No one questioned it.

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14 Nov 16:07
Manyi: To create the impression that this was undermining anyone, is wrong.

14 Nov 16:07
Manyi details that he believed that media buying chief director was supposed to have an office all on its own. Zondo: You are saying it was correct that that chief director reporting directly to CEO was permitted under circumstances?

14 Nov 16:03
Manyi: Moves on to media buying executive, whose reporting line he also changed to report directly to him. I wanted to ensure that we did not have this person who deals with billions of rands involved in any corruption etc.

14 Nov 16:01
Manyi: DPSA, StatsSA are examples of other SOEs where the internal auditor reports to CEO.

14 Nov 16:01
Manyi: It was not like I was just doing my own things. I took the issue [changing internal auditor reporting lines) to the Management Committee and Ms Williams was part of that ManCo.

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14 Nov 15:58
Manyi: I won't go through all prescripts that support (changing reporting lines of internal auditor). Internal audit function must report directly to the accounting officer according to Treasury regulations.

14 Nov 15:57
Manyi: I was disappointed that Phumla Williams was now in 2018 still challenging a corrective action to ensure good governance in 2011.

14 Nov 15:55
Manyi: Next issue - Internal Auditor that Ms Williams queried why I changed that the internal auditor report to me.

14 Nov 15:54
Manyi: I do not apologise for dismantling the BAC, it was the right thing to do.

14 Nov 15:54
Manyi: That was another reason why I thought - time for a change. Indeed, chair those were the reasons for my decision [to disband the BAC].

14 Nov 15:53
Manyi: I also looked at the terms of the BAC. Can you believe that Phumla Williams had been part of the BAC for 10 years!

14 Nov 15:53
Manyi: I also noticed conflict of interest. Bid adjudication committee and procurement officials who were running projects with service providers who they have built a relationship with. They were one and the same.

14 Nov 15:48
Manyi: I was never interviewed by National Treasury. If it was not for this commission, I would not have found out that the report says I ratified this. I did not, I noted.

14 Nov 15:47
Manyi: One of the attachments is a memo by Phumla Williams actually regularising bulk procurement over the same time frame. There was a list of companies. One was blacked out - this was the same company involved in the R6-million.

14 Nov 15:46
Manyi says the memo was "strategy to whitewash" all the alleged irregularities 

14 Nov 15:45
Manyi: I actually only got the attachments last night.

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Zondo suggests that perhaps it was just incompetence at the highest level. But Zondo also says it is indeed worrying if it is actually corruption.

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Manyi says invoices were split so as not to exceed R1-million and attract the attention of National Treasury.

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Manyi: "The whole onboarding of this service provider was a disaster." 

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Manyi: "I must be very clear - this all happened before I arrived." 

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Manyi accuses Phumla Williams of "irregular" conduct.

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Manyi quotes from findings by National Treasury and emphasises that he had no input with these findings - it's all Treasury.

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