AS IT HAPPENED: 'We have got to respect people's privacy' - Zondo on investigator inspecting Mantashe's Eastern Cape property

2019-04-01 16:00

The judicial commission of inquiry into state capture continues with testimony related to Bosasa from former SIU lead investigator Clint Oellermann, followed by testimony from the commission's investigators.

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Raymond Zondo chairs the state capture inquiry
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Mlambo says the first inspection took place at a property associated with "Linda Mthimkhulu" in Colchester in the Eastern Cape. 

Mlambo later refers to the person in question as "Mr Mti". 


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Mlambo is one of the investigators working with the commission.


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Back from the break, Pretorius addresses Zondo to let him know that the next witness, Patrick Mlambo, has testified before, but now returns with further testimony. 

Mlambo's testimony will be led by Advocate Refilwe Molefe. 

Mlambo is now sworn in. 


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Pretorius concludes his line of questioning, and Oellermann is excused. Zondo thanks Oellermann and reminds him that he may be called back to the commission if they require anything further from him. 

Pretorius requests a short adjournment before they proceed with the next two witnesses, which Pretorius says could span several hours. 

Zondo grants a 15-minute adjournment so that the legal team can prepare the next witness and the related evidence bundles. 

Proceedings resume at 15:40.


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Oellermann says that the SIU was aware of other suspect contracts/tenders awarded to Bosasa by the Department of Correctional Services, but they fell outside the proclamation, and as such did not form part of the investigation.


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Pretorius moves further along in Oellermann's statement. Oellermann says the findings listed in the SIU report were compiled based on the information they received and analysed. 

Pretorius asks Oellermann about the investigation into former correctional services chief financial officer, Patrick Gillingham, and undue benefits he may have received.

The SIU report asserts that Gillingham received benefits months before an access control tender was awarded.


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Oellermann says when SIU investigators undertook the process of imaging the Bosasa servers, over 7 000 documents (on one server) appeared to have been overwritten and deleted.


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Oellermann tells Zondo it concerned him that it seemed as if Bosasa had an "inside track" on the SIU investigation and as an investigator he had suspicions of delaying tactics, when there were delays on the search and seizure raids on their offices.

Oellermann reveals that Bosasa approached them and said: "We understand that you want to come and do a search and seizure on our premises..." 


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Oellermann continues reading from his statement, regarding the details of the leaked SIU report.


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Back from the lunch break, Pretorius continues leading Oellermann's evidence.


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Zondo calls for the lunch adjournment. Proceedings resume at 14:00.


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Pretorius establishes with Oellermann that anyone who leaked the document to Bosasa at the time, should have known that it could harm prosecution. Oellermann agrees.


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Oellermann reading from Advocate Simelane's response to Breytenbach: "You and your team must withdraw from the case"...

Oellermann says Simelane's comments caused one to lose momentum and it meant more delays.


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Pretorius now continues leading Oellermann's evidence.


01 Apr 12:21

Back from the break, Zondo addresses the issue of the woman who unexpectedly approached him just after he called the adjournment, pleading for Zondo and the commission's assistance with information that she has in her possession regarding an SOE and her late husband.


01 Apr 12:01

Zondo calls for a short adjournment. Back at 12:15.


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