The president is caught in a policy trap, says Daniel Silke.
Partly cloudy. Mild.
Noakes gave advice to a mother without knowing the medical history or even age of her baby, former Association for Dietetic in SA president Claire Strydom has told the HPCSA. The hearing will continue on Tuesday.
#NoakesHPCSA pic.twitter.com/AtOkYq6rdN— Jonathan Skorpen (@LCHFSA) November 23, 2015
At an event at the Gallagher conference
centre last year, Noakes - a guest speaker - made similar comments to
that in the tweet, resulting in complaints from dietitians who had been
in attendance, Strydom said, These were reportedly described as
inaccurate, reports Tammy Petersen.
Claire Strydom reads wording of her charge: @ProfTimNoakes gave advice on Twitter that 'could be life-threatening to infants' #NoakesHPCSA— Marika Sboros (@MarikaSboros) November 23, 2015
Claire Strydom reads wording of her charge: @ProfTimNoakes gave advice on Twitter that 'could be life-threatening to infants' #NoakesHPCSA
The Tim Noakes HPCSA hearing has restarted, reports News24's Tammy Petersen.
President of the Association for Dietetics in
South Africa (ADSA) Claire Strydom, who lodged the complaint, is now testifying.
According to her letter, she said his
tweet was not evidence based and asked for urgent action as he is a
"celebrity in South Africa".
A few parents have weighed in on how banting has or may affect their kids:
“I put my 9-year-old on banting food for
two weeks prior to and during her exam time. The change was incredible. She had
sustained energy, never complained of tummy ache, and wasn't hungry all the
time. She also slept better and showed consistent stamina. Above all, she never craved or asked for sweets
or sugary food. I have since started banting myself, have
lost 3kgs in 2 weeks and feeling much, much better, since I have Rheumatoid
Arthritis. This is the best way of eating, a real food revolution! The proof is in the pudding, the high fat,
low carb pudding!” says Suzanne.
“I think the dietetics council was correct
to ask for this hearing. Let me firstly say that I am a mom with a baby of
weaning age. Secondly, I am an anaesthesiologist so have an extensive
scientific background. Noakes is correct in saying that breastmilk is high in
fat, but has left out several important bits of information. Breastmilk is LOW
in protein and HIGH in sugar (specifically lactose). This is nature's way of
supplying energy for all that growth. As such the idea of weaning my child onto
a low carb diet is ludicrous. He will be getting butternut and sweet potato and
gem squash. All of which contain significant amounts of carbohydrates. He will
only be receiving protein over the age of 6 months when his system can handle
it, and then in small amounts while checking for allergic reactions. Noakes, banting
is not a one size fits all. We all each have a different set of genes and
respond to diets differently. And it is certainly not the way to wean a baby,”
The HPCSA hearing breaks until
15:00 to allow the commission to peruse documents handed to them this
Read on for how the morning unfolded, as well as your feedback on Tim Noakes and the banting system...
More positive feedback for the banting
“In response to your negative comments as
usual, I under medical supervision, with regular blood test monitoring key
markers, I started a Banting lifestyle and have been overwhelmed by the
positive results, losing up-to 18kgs to date!” says Gilbert.
“I have been on a low carb, high fat diet
since November 2014. I can proudly say that it worked for me because by March
this year I lost 11kg from 82kg to 71kg, and I'm still maintaining it. I have
been doing my checkups for cholesterol and diabetes and I'm healthy. I thank Dr
Noakes for the eye-opening solution,” says Thembi.
“I have been banting for a year and I love
it! Have lost 10kg and are (sic) feeling great,” says Lin.
"I have been on the diet for 4 months and am loving it. My husband is
diabetic and has also been following the banting diet. He has stopped
injecting himself with insulin completely and his blood pressure has
normalized. If banting is so bad, why so many good results? I
also have never felt healthier and fitter. Thank you Tim Noakes," says Tania.
A new report unearths the 'shocking' state of HPCSA
The Health Professions Council of SA is in for a major overhaul,
following a probe that found the body failed in executing its core
functions, says Health Minister Dr Aaron Motsoaledi.
The hearing has reconvened...
They continue to argue the merits of using a video interview for evidence.
A practical demonstration on how the Skype process will work is being conducted by Tim Noakes's team, reports News24's Tammy Petersen.
Three more users have since responded to us. This is what they said:
"I've been on LCHF for about 10 years, and I will never go back. I am 69 and
far healthier than most of my friends, despite having mitral valve problem," says Liz.
"There are big corporations that stand to lose billions if he is proven
right. My wife and I use his healthy eating and it works," says Johan.
"Banting work perfectly for my whole family. My view on the whole
thing is, the people on the other diets are upset because they are not
selling their products anymore. And everything in shops is Low fat. You
can’t get any normal items anymore. I have not felt this good in a long time...,"
Another News24 user says: “Any diet that
discourages people from eating fruit is just not good at all!!!
“Did God make a mistake when He introduced
mankind's diet of grains, fruits, nuts?
There was no high fat there...!
“Carbohydrates should be taken in whole
foods, and not refined, then there is no problem with it.”
Five minute break. Prof Noakes in good spirits. #NoakesHPCSA pic.twitter.com/8U6yk1bbh0— Megan Stacy Deane (@MegStaDeane) November 23, 2015
Five minute break. Prof Noakes in good spirits. #NoakesHPCSA pic.twitter.com/8U6yk1bbh0
Meanwhile, back at the hearing...
Adams asks Mapolisa if his concerns revolve
around witness tampering, reports News24's Tammy Petersen.
Mapolisa confirms this. Adams responds that this
could happen anywhere, even if he [the witness] is present at the hearing.
Another News24 user has given us her
feedback. She says:
“My hubby and I have been on the LCHF way of
life for 9 months now.
“I have reduced almost 20kgs and we are
both feeling the best/healthiest that we have for a long time.
“A very simple, clean way of eating. Love
"Respondent is having trouble finding experts
in South Africa to testify," Adams points out.
The Canadian expert also does not
want to come to the country to testify, she says.
Meanwhile, Health24 asks:
Who is this Professor Stephen Cunnane that the Noakes team want to
The Noakes hearing has only been going for an hour and I am already STARVING. Hopefully there are still some muffins outside— Rebecca Davis (@becsplanb) November 23, 2015
The Noakes hearing has only been going for an hour and I am already STARVING. Hopefully there are still some muffins outside
"Since inception of HPCSA, this is the first
time such an application has been received.
"It should not be granted and
procedure should be followed," the council argues.
Complainant objects to video testimony as it
goes against regulations which state all oral evidence must be taken
A witness must be physically present, complainant argues.
Evidence by affidavit though is admissible.
A News user named Phil says:
“Banting did not work for me, I was getting
fatter, low testosterone & libido. I have since then changed to a plant-based
diet, cut all meat, dairy, processed food and so on.
“I feel so much better, lost some fat,
increased my muscle mass and all my blood markers are so much better.”
Introductions being made #noakesHPCSA pic.twitter.com/oIMs42WbBq— Megan Stacy Deane (@MegStaDeane) November 23, 2015
Introductions being made #noakesHPCSA pic.twitter.com/oIMs42WbBq
Team in red supporting @ProfTimNoakes today at Day 1 of the hearing #NoakesHPCSA pic.twitter.com/Aapt0cUrJq— Real Meal Revolution (@real_meals) November 23, 2015
Team in red supporting @ProfTimNoakes today at Day 1 of the hearing #NoakesHPCSA pic.twitter.com/Aapt0cUrJq
Legal representation for Professor Tim Noakes argues some evidence should be led via video conference. #sabcwc #TimNoakes— Carmel Loggenberg (@Carmell8518) November 23, 2015
Legal representation for Professor Tim Noakes argues some evidence should be led via video conference. #sabcwc #TimNoakes
Maybe banting isn't your thing and your love for all things carbs is too much. I mean, just look at that picture of the lasagne at the top of this Food24 article. It's so beautiful.
Here are seven pasta recipes that will make Tim Noakes weep.
Penny Meakin tells us: “This lifestyle works for me and I am in full support of Tim Noakes.It is all about eating real food and rejecting processed food with all the chemical additives, refined carbs and all the sugar.
"That sort of advice just makes so much sense.
This vilification of Tim Noakes can only be because Big Food sees him has a threat, and the ASDA is under the influence and are funded by Big Food.
"He is only the South African voice – there are many big voices around the world now that are trying to turn the tide of bad nutritional advise which was started a few decades ago and has led the world down the path to ill health.
"Strength to Tim Noakes!”
News24 user, Stan Webb tells us of his positive experience with the Noakes diet: "I am diabetic and have been struggling to get my sugar below twelve for a few months.
"I have been diabetic for about 6 years and was always able to keep it under control. Increased doses of insulin twice daily was not helping, I was up to 60ml in the morning and evening.
"From the first day I started banting, my blood sugar levels started dropping dramatically and after three weeks, I am using 32ml as opposed to 60ml of insulin and my sugar is around seven again.I have also lost 5kg. This certainly works for me."
Tim Noakes' team is hoping to call expert international witnesses: Caryn Zinn, Kiwi dietician, and Stephen Cunnane, Canadian professor— Rebecca Davis (@becsplanb) November 23, 2015
Tim Noakes' team is hoping to call expert international witnesses: Caryn Zinn, Kiwi dietician, and Stephen Cunnane, Canadian professor
Real Meal Revolution, Managing Director Jonno Proudfoot: "We stand behind Prof Noakes in his right to (informed) freedom of speech and to ensuring that information is available to all who need it.
“There is more than adequate scientific knowledge out there to support a LCHF diet for children and to attempt to silence Noakes is not going to stop consumers from making their own decisions as the information becomes freely available."
Health24 sat down earlier this week with Prof Noakes and he told them why he believes the LCHF diet is safe for everyone, including children.
"All humans should eat real foods with less carbohydrate and more fat and protein – and all the other nutrients found in nutrient-dense real foods – and avoid processed foods," he said.
Referring to the tweet from last year that will see Noakes face a two-day hearing by the HPCSA, he said: "The choice between health and ill health begins with our infants as soon as they’re weaned."
A study released by Stellenbosch University in July 2014 found that Tim Noakes's diet was no better than a balanced diet, reported Food24.
According to the article about the study, the evidence published in the international PLOS ONE journal showed that the Banting lifestyle "resulted in weight loss by restricting caloric intake – not by lowering the amount of carbohydrates consumed".
The SU study reviewed the result of 19 international scientific trials. As part of these trials, about 3 200 participants were placed either on low-carbohydrate or balanced weight loss diets.
The study measured the diets’ impacts on risk factors related to heart disease, diabetes and cancer.
#TimNoakes all smiles this morning as the "Banting" professor walks in for the HPCSA hearing @eNCA pic.twitter.com/h9HyGKnE8H— Athi Mtongana (@Artii_M) November 23, 2015
#TimNoakes all smiles this morning as the "Banting" professor walks in for the HPCSA hearing @eNCA pic.twitter.com/h9HyGKnE8H
The controversial tweet that has landed "Banting Diet" Prof. #TimNoakes before the HPCSA @eNCA pic.twitter.com/9OO0py6Xgn— Athi Mtongana (@Artii_M) November 23, 2015
The controversial tweet that has landed "Banting Diet" Prof. #TimNoakes before the HPCSA @eNCA pic.twitter.com/9OO0py6Xgn
So the HPC people are serving muffins at Tim Noakes's hearing.??????— SamuM (@Samu__M) November 23, 2015
So the HPC people are serving muffins at Tim Noakes's hearing.??????
A hearing at the Health Professionals’ Council of SA with Professor Tim Noakes, who promotes a low carbohydrate, high fat lifestyle, will continue on Monday following a pause in proceedings in June.
The hearing is after a complaint was lodged by the Association for Dietetics in South Africa’s (ADSA) president Claire Julsing-Strydom.
The complaint centres on a tweet from Noakes to a mother who asked what foods she should feed her baby.
Noakes advised the mother to wean her child onto LCHF foods, which he described as real foods.
“By implication I was ¬saying that the child should not be weaned onto the traditional high sugar, high carbohydrate processed cereals.”
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