AS IT HAPPENED: 'Right now I feel I want to murder the people around you' - ex boyfriend's message to Marli

2017-05-11 10:09

The Van Breda murder trial continues at the Western Cape High Court for the day 10 of the proceedings.

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11 May 12:19
Court is adjourned until Monday. 

11 May 12:16
His bail conditions have been amended.

11 May 12:14
Botha says it costs his client money if proceedings run only half days.

11 May 12:14
Adv Galloway says next witness coming from Pretoria and the other from Beaufort West.

11 May 12:12
Botha says Henri had so many injuries it couldn't fit on the J88. Among them were knobs on his face, various cuts and a bruise under his knee.

11 May 12:08
Some people become hysterical, some cry ,others don't, some are quiet, Adv Botha says to Steyn. He agrees.

11 May 12:08
Steyn says its the first time he was at such a scene.

11 May 12:06
There was no blood on Henri's socks, Botha says. Steyn agrees. There was blood on his boxer shorts.

11 May 12:03
Botha says a blood spatter expert had been on scene and said he cant exclude that the blood spatter landed on side wall due to object being carried past the area.

11 May 12:02
Although there were no signs of an intruder escaping, there is a possibility, Botha asks. Steyn agrees.

11 May 11:59
He found beer at some of the balaclava gang crime scenes.

11 May 11:57
He was told of the suspect of a balaclava and gloves and he investigated. The Captain covered this type of crime as part of a task team.

11 May 11:54
The gang took cellphones, tvs, laptops, etc. Small items of value that could be carried away easily.

11 May 11:54

Adv Botha asking about a balaclava gang operating in that vicinity.

Steyn says November 2014 the last member of the balaclava gang was arrested.

60 incidents, six were arrested. Could only be tied to 10 of the scenes. Didn't have enough evidence to link them to the others.


11 May 11:47
Adv Botha cross examining.

11 May 11:47
There were no robberies or murders at De Zalze before this.

11 May 11:45
The knife is exhibit 2, which we saw yesterday. It was part of a set of knives.

11 May 11:43
He and photographer later returned to the scene. The knife is exhibit 2, which we saw yesterday.

11 May 11:42
He wanted to hand the wallet over the family. Gave it to Lorinda van Niekerk. It was in his desk drawer.

11 May 11:41
He also handled Martin van Breda's wallet

11 May 11:40
On 6 May 2015 he took swabs of two domestic workers who worked for the Van Bredas.

11 May 11:39
People differ, but in some cases women cry, men are angry.

11 May 11:39
The photo exhibit is how he saw Henri in the ambulance. Henri was quiet and calm, the captain says, and told me what happened.

11 May 11:38
He then googled police emergency number. The didn't have the number on him. He said he couldn't remember how long he was unconscious, but when he regained consciousness he Googled it

11 May 11:38
He said he missed the suspect and hit the wall. The suspect then ran out the back door. He returned to the stairs and when he saw his mother and sister lying there, he fainted.

11 May 11:37
We are back. He said he took the axe from him, and the man stabbed him in the side with a knife. He chased the suspect from the room and down the stairs and threw the axe at him.

11 May 11:24

11 May 11:18
Court breaks for tea.

11 May 11:18
He said he had shouted, his dad came into the room, and the suspect attacked his dad. Thereafter his mother and sister respectively came in and the suspect attacked them too. He said he confronted the suspect.

11 May 11:17
Didn't question him, wanted his version.

11 May 11:16
He told me that in the early hours he went to the toilet, heard sounds (kap geluide) , looked through door and saw someone attacking his brother.

11 May 11:15
He saw Henri at the scene. Detective head was there, and we all got a task to do. I had to find out Henri's version. I spoke to him in the ambulance.

11 May 11:15
The person would have had to have blood on his hands. If he jumped over wall there would be blood, but none. Also no shoe print.

11 May 11:14
No sign according to me that anyone came in or left.

11 May 11:14
Investigated to see forced entry. Couldn't find anything at that time.

11 May 11:12
His experience says cellphones, laptops and small valuables would be taken. These were all still in the house. Strange they would come into house and not take anything.

11 May 11:12
Scene was not deurmekaar. Usually a house robbery would see items thrown out of cupboards, etc.

11 May 11:10
12 Goske is almost in the middle of the estate. He arrived at scene when forensics were already there.

11 May 11:04
Nicholas Steyn next in the witness box. Police captain with 28 years service.

11 May 11:02

The message is read out to the court:

"I know i told you i would tell you everything - right now I feel i want to murder the people around you. But i am being strong to help you"  


11 May 11:01
Back to the axe. Reade-Jahn says the axe he remembers was black. Exhibit is green.

11 May 11:00
Combrink says it was related to the parents feeling their relationship was too serious. Yes, Reade-Jahn says, I would say they wanted us to turn it down as we were to write exams which would determine acceptance into university.

11 May 10:59
Details of the message not being divulged. Adv Galloway says it was communication between two people.

11 May 10:58
Reade-Jahn says from his knowledge it seemed that that could have been the only possibility, I was concerned why Teresa may have been so upset, something else may have cropped up, but I am not aware of the incident.

11 May 10:56
Adv Combrink says it was a heated incident, discussing that she was overweight and she was sensitive about it. They all agreed Martin had been a bit rough on her.

11 May 10:55

[Talking about the message to Marli]

I would describe it as a mistake, it was not the right things to say to comfort her. It wasn't directed to mean anything. I wasn't thinking.


11 May 10:54
He saw them the next day. We all went surfing and they came back to our house. We had a full family braai. Rudi and his girlfriend were there.

11 May 10:53
She was present while they were having a fight. The aftermath of a family argument. Sent on 10 January.

11 May 10:52
According to the message - The family had had a hard argument and the dinner table. Marli told me. She was very upset by her father, mom was very upset too.

11 May 10:51
He was asked to explain content for one of the messages because they were trying to broaden scope of investigation.

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