1000s leave stadium before end of Zuma's speech

2012-01-08 22:37

Bloemfontein - It had started with chanting and dancing by tens of thousands of ANC members, but by the time President Jacob Zuma had ended his 90-minute speech as the party celebrated its 100th anniversary, thousands had already left the Free State Stadium in Bloemfontein.

The speech was devoted mainly to the history of the ANC.

Many say the party hasn't delivered on its promises since taking power in 1994.

"We need to ensure that our programme of transforming our country is accelerated and taken to new heights," Zuma said, flanked by an aide holding an umbrella.

He acknowledged the problems confronting the ANC, saying it needs to "defeat the demon of factionalism" and to take "urgent and practical steps to restore the core values, stamp out factionalism and promote political discipline".

It is unclear if the ANC members who'd left the stadium during his address had gone because of the heat, because they had to leave due to lack of accommodation or whether they were sending Zuma a message.

One woman left saying she was bored.

Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe proposed a toast and told the half-empty stadium that if they did not have champagne, they could take photographs of their leaders drinking, or raise clenched fists.

"The leaders will now enjoy the champagne, and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips," he said.

  • Alva - 2012-01-08 22:48

    "Qu'ils mangent de la brioche" or in English, "Let them eat cake".-" The leaders will now enjoy the champagne, and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips," he said. Errrr....The first statement did not have a happy ending and the latter may not either after that statement by Motlanthe.

      Mabs - 2012-01-08 23:00

      What a huge error! How dare he say that to poor hungry and possibly very thirsty people!

      Alva - 2012-01-09 00:04

      A very irresponsible statement by Motlanthe. Seems the ANC are currently drunk with power.

      spartan888 - 2012-01-09 00:08

      "The leaders will now enjoy the champagne, and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips," . HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA WTF!! the ANC can buy themselves fancy cars and houses in the white imperialist sandton yet they cannot hand small bottles of cheap champagne to their faithful supporters when they enter the stadium !

      Eduard - 2012-01-09 03:13

      the ANC is where the Japanese were before the second world war....the wheel turns....and everything change, or does it?

      Dirk - 2012-01-09 05:05

      The "leaders" do not only drink champagne on behalf of the masses, they also steal and plunder on their behalf

      jeremy002 - 2012-01-09 05:57

      If you do have champagne, you can take photos of us your leaders drinking on your behalf, or raise clenched fists. If you do not have multi-million rand mansions with massive security to protect you from out of control crime, if you do not have R1m black Range Rovers with blue lights, if you do not have body guards, if you do not have jobs with huge salaries, if you do not get millions and millions of rands in tender kick-backs, if your spouse does not drive a black Porsche Cayenne with tinted windows...... if you do not have these things, then take photos of us your leaders enjoying them on your behalf, and raise clenched fists in solidarity.

      Squeegee - 2012-01-09 06:37

      This statement is going to haunt the ANC for years...

      William - 2012-01-09 07:00

      I was going to comment exactly the same...."let them eat cake!"

      Had - 2012-01-09 07:30

      @Jeremy - haha, you hit the nail on the head - Range Rover Sports and Porsche Cayenne. The BMW X5 is probably for the kids now !!

      Silver - 2012-01-09 07:33

      Ironically enough that statement is a true reflection of the ANC today. “You don’t have food, water or a house. Don’t complain if you have nothing, at least you have you clinched fist.” Everyone assumes everyone was there for “the party” but not everyone can afford to party so they where there for the freebies that included a T-shirt and maybe a chicken but no sushi.

      Peter - 2012-01-09 07:49

      The contempt the ANC "leaders" have of their own people is disgusting. How can they be called leaders??

      Denny - 2012-01-09 07:58

      What a statement! It sounds like satire from Was anyone else reminded of Animal Farm?

      Silver - 2012-01-09 08:02

      I think by now the ANC has banned the reading of Animal Farm in schools Denny.

      Sharkshoot - 2012-01-09 08:06

      The problem with the new regime is really quite simple. They are illiterate and simple peasants that have been given tons of money in a short space of time. This will never have a happy ending as their equally simple constituents want what they have. It will all end in tears when the money runs out.

      DiamondDirk - 2012-01-09 08:18

      @Sharkshoot - What new regime. They have been in power for 17 years. There is a saying, something great is created in 20 years. In this case I just don't know what that great is. Great poverty perhaps?

      mlucejko - 2012-01-09 08:20

      Have you ever read "Animal Farm" by George Orwell ?? Well clearly the Senior guys in the ANC should read it... It might give them a 'hint' to what they are doing wrong !!

      Msholozi - 2012-01-09 08:25

      It is a crime to disrespect our leaders you wait for them to finish and you can thank them

      Janice - 2012-01-09 10:04

      And all he can do is read from a pre written speach compiled by someone else!!!

      Silver - 2012-01-09 10:09

      Seem that the truth tickles your funny bone ubhejane. You know what is even more ironic? While you guys look down out of your scratched and dented SUV's you look down on your own. Strangely enough the guys in Zim, Moz and (now that I think of it) pretty much Africa said the same thing somewhere along the line. Even the liberals all over the world are starting to wake. Reality speaks its own truth. Actions don't lie. Africa is Africa, nothing more nothing less.

      RSole - 2012-01-09 10:25

      As the old saying goes "You can fool some of the people all of the time and all of the people some of the time but you can't fool all of the people all of the time"

      DiamondDirk - 2012-01-09 10:29

      @Ubhejane - I also watched that series on SABC and your right. But what you ignorantly chose not to see and obviously didn't appreciate is that almost the entire Europe stood behind the ANC during the Apartheid. And you know what, the majority of those people are white. Many of us white South Africans are disgusted with how the country was run by PW Botha and his predecessors. But you are missing the discussion completely. This was ANC people walking out while your president was speaking. That is not only disrespectful but also rude. What OR Tambo and Nelson Mandela did for this country was honourable and just, but what the leaders of today is doing is spitting on OR Tambo's grave and smacking Madiba's legend in the face. The ANC of today is not the ANC that fought for freedom.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 10:38

      LOL LOL Piet. I don't drive a dented luxury 4x4.....and I don't vote for the ANC. I'm just in a mischievous mood this morning! You will just adore me when you meet me. I promise you!!! I'm one of the many black South Africans that will fight for you till my last drop of blood because you were born a South African like me. Now there is a serious post from me! Guys, Zuma's speech was pathetic and portrayed his lack of direction and it was very obvious how he avoided the word corruption. Deputy Prez and his champaign statement was beyond stupid and the whole ANC bash looked like a disorganised mess. What struck me however was the fact that he didn't mention Zimbabwe when he thank the other African countries. Did any of you pick this up?

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 10:54

      @Diamond Dirk. You are absolutely right Dirk. You must have noticed by now, that I have a whole lot of fun on here tormenting ex South Africans that voted for PW Botha. The amazing thing is, when these people meet me in person they just love me. It is far more important for me to learn from them, because they have a whole lot of wisdom. They are seeing what the ANC is doing wrong. Yes it isn't always shown in their negative posts on here but they are as concerned about our future as I am. Every word you posted now is the truth. There were far more whites rooting for us in this country in the 90's than against us.

      Spyker - 2012-01-09 10:54

      @Msholozi.., It is an even bigger crime to such an idiot...

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 11:01

      @Spyker. It is 11 am. You only get here now? Where were you last night? Drinking champagne with your brothers in Bloemfontein? And why this short post??????? I always enjoy your philosophies. Seriously! I know you can't stand me, but a blog on here just isn't a blog without you. Now get rid of your babalaas and post something decent!

      Mike - 2012-01-09 11:30

      When will their faithful followers realize that their votes have been stolen by a self-serving bunch of thieves ? When will they begin to think critically, and for themselves - not with a herd mentality ? If they don't have water, electricity, homes, cars and wealth etc as promised, they only have themselves to blame. As long as the ANC remains in power, nothing will really change for these people.

      Linda - 2012-01-09 12:54

      Ubhejane, I strongly suspect you have your tongue wedged firmly in your cheek. Have fun.

      Martin - 2012-01-09 14:00

      The ANC a century of struggle and still struggling

      DiamondDirk - 2012-01-09 14:45

      @Martin - Very true. First they struggled against Apartheid now they are struggling against themselves.

      Adam - 2012-01-09 16:31

      That statement was so "Animal Farm" that its actually VERY scary !!

      Odicito - 2012-01-10 01:19

      He later said, "...your leaders will keep on driving expensive German cars and live in opulence, and of course dear masses, we will eat sushi and drink expensive whiskey, all this on your behalf, and whats more, we will do this through our lucky masses" he said in concluding.

      TheSlip - 2012-01-10 07:12

      "A dog starv'd at his master's gate Predicts the ruin of the state." -- William Blake

      fred.kruger2 - 2012-01-10 09:19

      "...take photographs of their leaders drinking, or raise clenched fists." How about raising a middle finger to these "leaders"?

      lusumbathotho - 2012-01-10 16:18

      MY BRU, leaders always eat and drink on behalf of people. South Africans should stop dreaming that ANC is for them but for a limited number within it. you will vote, they will eat. simple like that. viva vice president to reveal and clarify this to ignorent people.

  • WimpieN - 2012-01-08 22:51

    A lot like the Cheetah supporters during a Super rugby match! (Just kidding, folks!) I would have left as well! 90 Minute speach! Get real, NO ONE is THAT interrested in politics, whichever side of the fence you sit!

      Morakane - 2012-01-09 00:42

      90 mins... God thats a movie!!

      Squeegee - 2012-01-09 06:35

      Must be the longest, most boring speach ever for Zuma, and that's saying something.

      DiamondDirk - 2012-01-09 08:21

      @leanard - You're right. The core fundamentals of what the ANC used to stand for, Mandela and Tambo and their cronies, has been lost. Greed and power has replaced the fundamentals of the past.

      Eternity - 2012-01-09 09:07

      And you know how Zuma does his speeches - LooOOOoong pauses. "today........ we....... gather here.... to ...." zzzzzzzzzzzz -_-

      Gerrit - 2012-01-09 09:24

      The problem is that Zuma takes 3 minutes to read a sentence that should only take 1 minute to read. His speech should have been over in 30 minutes. The message the people sent to Zuma by leaving was that he makes very long and boring speeches! - 2012-01-09 11:36

      The thing you guys dont get it. JZ takes longer than a normal person to read. It would be 30min with the average person but wth him"Peo___ple___of___A_N_C,I__wa__nt__to__tha__nk__you__all__for__gi__vi__ng__me__this__o__ppo__tu__ni__ty__to__be__a__pre__si__de__nt

  • STYLEbudd - 2012-01-08 22:58

    So let them also enjoy extravagant houses on your behalf as well , I mean after all thats what the struggle was for = Freedom for all, houses, cars, planes and luxury holidays, not to mention the second salary ... all on your behalf and thanx to your vote!

  • Mboneni - 2012-01-08 23:03

    The speech was without any plan and no sequence of was dull and boring thats why thousands left the venue

      Michael - 2012-01-09 07:50

      Zuma is boring - fullstop! Who-ever wrote the speech for him is to blame as it was quite clear that Jughead never even read through the thing before his diatribe!

      Jerhone - 2012-01-09 09:33

      all your speaches always were dull and boring it never stopped you lot before, or have you acquired some new brain cells and decided "man this malungu is talking one big pile of sh*t"

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 10:04

      O My Golly! Look who has woken up! Another Disciple of PW Botha! Morning Jerhone! Why so late? Get your Dictionary of Hate out and start posting! We missed you!

      Beetroot - 2012-01-09 11:13

      Hello Seestha!

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 12:30

      LOL LOL LOL Beetroot!!!!!!!!!!! Morning Sistaah! LOL LOL LOL

  • Richard - 2012-01-08 23:03

    I watched the whole speech on SKYnews live. I felt embarrassed to think the world was watching. To have a president who can hardly articulate words of the english language never mind string a sentence together. yes you can come at me with your "english is not his native language" but surely he could have hired a speech therapist and/or writer for such an occasion (I reckon the latter might have been involved as he used words that were bigger than his forehead, quite a feat)

      Nzuzo - 2012-01-09 00:37

      (Racists) .....dont u people just hate this man with all your hearts...everything he does good or bad---only the negetivity prevails always , by da way you better change yo citizenship cos this man is still gonna be here for the next full term

      Andries - 2012-01-09 01:02

      Don’t worry about it. The world wasn’t watching, and frankly don’t care about a little celebration in S.A. Zuma’s accent is hardly the problem. The news coverage here in Aus was maybe a couple of minutes with about 10 seconds of Zuma’s speech. Then they cut away to images of townships and poor people complaining that nothing has really changed in 18 years. Quite objective reporting I’d say.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 02:24

      @Nzuzo. Don't bother with comments like these two. If you read something like this, know it is a rat that fled the ship. You just enjoy your freedom and treasure the fact that no government stands between you and making the most of your life. It doesn't matter if you can't speak English like the Queen. Neither can an Italian or a Greek. The trash that come trash us on here are all here on this site because foreigner countries have no case with their racial hatred. They are as isolated there as they were in South Africa with their Nazi manners. Rejoice that you can buy his house today and your kids don't have to attend a school with their poisoned offspring. Treasure the whites that stood by us and gave their lives for our cause and those are the people we need in our quest for true freedom moving ourselves forward.

      Garth - 2012-01-09 06:40

      @nzuzo only a true racist would label as `racist' criticism of the political party one supports. You are so one-eyed that you cannot see the faults. On the one hand there is Motlanthe praising anc unity and on the other is Zuma driving people from a stadium with his incoherence. So how was the champagne? Or are you one of the poor, the downtrodden, the masses forced to raise an empty fist? Or did you take photographs of your glorious leaders as they swilled champagne whilst your parched mouth could not raise spit to swallow. Wake up and smell the shiite that they are shovelling down your throats whilst they wallow in champagne and oysters. And ube, your lies are starting to cross over themselves.

      Con - 2012-01-09 07:47

      George, it is the nature of the criticism that reveals the underlying racism. Criticising Zuma for his accent is stupid and racist. If I were a black leader continuously being criticised for my accent, I would sstart speaking my native language only. Then you would hear the idiots explode in indignation ! Nzuzo is right. There is much to criticize in this government, but most whites refuse to acknowledge the good thingsthat are being achieved. Many of them still do not even think apartheid was all that wrong.

      Michael - 2012-01-09 07:51

      @Nzuzo - don't be so assumptious!

      Heibrin - 2012-01-09 08:53

      @ubhejane: like it's the terrorists who served in MK, having the blood of innocents on their hands sitting in government today. And going by the numbers they have A LOT more blood on their hands than the SADF / SAPS ever had.

      Patsy - 2012-01-09 09:16

      Surely a president ought to be educated enough, or at least make an effort, to communicate with ALL his people................never mind the rest of the world. It'd also help if he were taught the correct pronunciation of the longer words!!! e.g. E-KON-omics!

      Nzuzo - 2012-01-09 09:46

      I thank God for social networks like these cos I am looking at Predominently white expressions towards the ANC & one thing is clear....& I now understand why they hated de Klerk so much because he gave in to allowing these Blacks to vote & take over the country,,,,Hatred prevails clearly now. ( I like wat I see ) At least its clear where we stand, instead of this faked Rainbow nation which only means blacks must sacrifice themselves to please the white men...its getting hot in here.

      Jerhone - 2012-01-09 09:51

      to Uber Bobejaan You will always remain a zombie in the party of the dead, you refuse to believe there are sprawling shacks and poor masses,after 17 years of rule and billions of rands squandered, you would not believe the truth even if it jumped up and bit you in the a*se, to think you could still have enjoyed your freedom but you could have enjoyed it much more with money houses and jobs now all this money is in the pockets of the elite black upper class. Freedom does not feed house or clothe your family but top class education "FREEDOM OF THINKING" does, something your masters have banned you from you ever achieving

      Dewald G. - 2012-01-09 10:53

      @ubhejane watching Takalani Sesame doesn't count for 'educating yourself' in the real world. Oh and btw you didnt 'get rid of us'. We allowed the transformation to happen. Moron.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 11:20

      Dear Dewald, We didn't have a TV. The only Sesame stuff I know about are those seeds on your fancy bread. Now can you imagine how stupid I really am? But Eish Baas, have you got a job for me in yor garden? I can dig, and I can break yor lawnmower and wash yor car and if you leeve da kees in it, I can steel it also so yo can claim a new 1 from yor insurense companie.

      NrGx - 2012-01-09 11:45

      I fear there is a total misconception of what "FREEDOM" actually is. Are you free to steal, pillage commit crime?.... Is that what you class as freedom? OR are you now free to educate yourself, free to pay taxes and contribute to the economy, free to be a part of a nation?.... or just want everything for FREE? the only way to truly be free is to FREE YOUR MIND. free your mind from those racist "tendencies", free your mind from the propaganda machine ANC, free your mind and get educated, as you shall know (if you are free) IF YOU FREE YOUR MIND YOU SHALL BE SET FREE!!!

      Grant - 2012-01-09 15:45

      @Uberjane - funny you! You claim people are racist because they comment on how poorly their national leader speaks - effectively denying the fact that such a leader should posses certain skills and abilities, as if his way with words has nothing to do with his intelligence. Yet you go on to say " I educated myself because we managed to get rid of you Nazis. My vocabulary alone should speak volumes" Thats EXACTLY what we are getting at!! If YOU could educate yourself to a decent level, what excuse does the president of our country have for NOT doing the same??

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 18:32

      @grantcallaway. Have heart Grant. At least the Prez can read! You have a lot to be thankful for. I was expecting him in our tribal loin cloths and a 1000 bare breasted maidens dancing for him. And look what we got! A boring show, like every other day of the last 17 years!

      Jerhone - 2012-01-09 18:53

      TO Uberbobjaan so you earn more than me thats great, i'm happy for you, but it's not about money, it's about opening your eyes to reality, that while you are earning more legaly or illegaly your brother's of the south are suffering by the millions because you can't see past your governments greed and mismanagement, theres a saying in the bible what does it profit a man that he gains the whole world, but loses his soul, how is your soul? do you sleep well at night knowing that your party took food and housing from so many of your poor brothers and sisters?

      Jerhone - 2012-01-09 19:17

      to Uberbobjaan hey what makes you think i,m suffering in any way?i'm living great, been earning the same slave wages for years, but i can proudly say i WORKED for what i have, never screwed no one over, i've never looked at the next man with envy and wished i had what he has,i'm not afraid to say i'm not rich what has that got to do with reasoning and seeing whats happening in government, and whats wrong with working for a boss millions of people worldwide do, money is not everything when it comes down to it you can't eat money, and you can't take it with you when you die, do you think because your government steals and have loads of money make them intelligent?

      mozartatplay - 2012-01-10 12:20

      ubhejane I really enjoy your posts. I'm a whitie fighting to make South Africa work and disgusted with what the ANC has become. My Sotho is awful, my black friends often correct me when I pronounce ministers names and I'm thankful they do. I think it is disingenuous to tear into someones English accent when they are 2nd language speakers, especially when it is comprehensible. Nobody says that a Welshman's English accent is wrong and in the same way nobody should say that a Zulu English accent is wrong. Its what makes the world more colourful. I have to say that Zuma's choice of syllable breaks in his words is really funny sometimes - Trevor Noah has a lot of fun with this. When it comes to people who mumble and complain a lot, you should ask how many are out there teaching mathematics on Saturdays to kids from disadvantaged schools. I say while the ship is slowly turning away from the ANC, lets do things to build the country so that when the ship has finally turned to a more caring party, there is still enough of a country left to hit the ground running.

  • Franklyn - 2012-01-08 23:12

    The leaders will now enjoy the champagne,and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips.......hahahaha.....hell,i can actually cringe imagining the still poor and disenfranchised ANC support base wondering what the hell he means.

      Jerhone - 2012-01-09 10:08

      He means vote for us again you dumba*ses or you won't get another free chicken passing over your lips in 2014. And you are still saying baas only this time you are saying it to us black elites, WE tell you what education you must have, not too much mind you,otherwise you will wise up and realize we are screwing you dumb lot big time, only if we choose you can hop on the gravy train, otherwise return to your squalour and shacks we'will call on you zombies in 2014 again while we go back to our palaces after a lekker p*ss up on your monies we could have built more houses with VIVA DUMBA*SES VIVA

      lusumbathotho - 2012-01-10 16:27

      i think it was a good time to congratulate deputy president to have surfaced the reality about the ANC, now all comrades are well aware that they led by carnivores and predators (ANC.

  • Stephen - 2012-01-08 23:12

    "The leaders will now enjoy the champagne, and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips,". I really laughed when i read that only to stop to think that this really isn't a joke :/

      Henk - 2012-01-09 09:06

      So this is how it works: I eat sushi until I explode - so you can feel full I drink the best champagne - for you to taste I drive the most expensive cars - for your comfort I have several mansions to live in - for you to have a home I grab kickbacks hand over hand - for you to have financial security I fly all over the world - for you to see through my eyes You have a fist - shake it in the air so we can keep this arrangement I wonder how long the people wil believe all this shait.

  • Lister Dumba - 2012-01-08 23:14

    It was extremely hot and his speech was too long under the circumstances i would have left too. There is no sinister motive here.

      William - 2012-01-09 07:26

      @ubhejane: I have been reading a lot of your comments and, while I can understand how you view many of the posts on this site as being inherently racist and, while many of them are, I hope you can realize that much of the sentiment is due to sheer frustration and disillusionment with the current government. Initially, you may think alot of the comments are outright racist because they attack the ANC. However, please do consider the attitude of many of these "white" people towards the ANC run by Madiba versus that run by the current 'regime'. I for one remember the post-'94 days. Many whites fled the country for Australia, etc, expecting the worst, but many more stayed and voraciously supported our fledgling rainbow nation. The situation is different now, however, with certain factions rising up and blatantly targeting white people, arguing that whites are somehow still, 18 years after democracy, the sole cause of the suffering of the masses. This is viewed by many whites as an unjustified attack on them as a race & a tactic used by the current regime to distract the masses from the ANCs own failures. Thus, many many whites feel extremely threatened, because we've seen this kind of rhetoric in the past. In Nazi Germany, and more recently in Zimbabwe. While the 'official' government response is that they do not support such rhetoric, they have also not criticised the racist & threatening diatribe from certain segments of the organization.

      William - 2012-01-09 07:36 such, many whites feel very threatened by the way the government is acting & operating & find themselves with their backs against the wall. An example would be the ANC's overt support for ZANU-PF in Zimbabwe, despite Robert Mugabe's gross human rights violations. Another example is the direct, racist threats made by the likes of Malema, which the ruling party refused to even discipline him over. Say what you like about the past inequalities, the stance taken by the YL is inherently racist & no amount of rhetoric will convince us otherwise. It is a direct threat. Thus, what you have is history repeating itself. The white people of this country can see it, why can't you? The sad thing is that many of our fellow South Africans feel the same as you, as though they "owe" their freedom to the ANC & therefore will defend the outright abuse they dish out to the nation as a whole. One could not be more wrong in tkaing such a stance, because the ANC is nothing more than a symbol, a figure-head of the people who fought in the struggle. Never forget that... it was the PEOPLE that fought against apartheid, it was the PEOPLE that gave the ANC the banner of a liberation movement & without the PEOPLE... the ANC is nothing but an empty shell. The ANC seems to have forgotten this,sipping champagne in front of their disenfranchised 'supporters' & blaming the whites for SA's problems. So, if some react with racially charged words, it's wrong, but you are guilty of it too in your posts.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 07:42

      @William. As far as I know, Zimbabwe were welcomed to the festivities yesterday,but strangely, were left out when other countries were thanked for their contribution accommodating MK during the struggle years. I wonder why Zuma would leave Zimbabwe out? Could it be that the relationship between the two countries have soured? Just wondering.

      Con - 2012-01-09 08:06

      Ubhejane, sadly, you are 100% correct. I hope the majority of bloggers on this site do not reflect white attitude in SA at large. The issue of the champagne drinking is being blown out of all proportion. Are people seriously suggesting they should have provided champagne to all the people in the stadium ? It is quite normal for the leaders on the podium to have had a celebratory glass of champagne "on behalf" of the entire organization. To refer to thr fact that the people were thirsty is ridiculous. The crowd could have brought their own refreshments, and probably did. Since when does a glass of champagne quench your thirst better than a bottle of water or cold drink ? Those people who jump on to this issue are racist idiots, finish and klaar.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 09:00

      @Con. I agree. But the mentality that sits here on this forum trashing us will now replace all the Malema woodworking comments with something about champaign. They have nothing else to do but think up ridiculous stuff to slay us. That is why they are no longer in power. You can't possibly run a country with voters like these. No wonder they are getting poorer by the day.

      Heibrin - 2012-01-09 09:03

      @Con: they spent how many millions on the celebrations, and couldn't even provide a bottle of water for the toast, never mind champagne?? With the amount they would have bought, a bottle of sparkling wine would have set them back what R50? Even with say 40 000 people in the stadium, that would have meant (at say 10 glasses per bottle - it's a toast, not a pee-up) 4000-5000 bottles, and would have cost them R200 000-R250000. After spending R400 million I'd say that's a slap in the face of the general ANC supporter. It does however show the greed of the Elite: all that money for celebrations, and not willing to even spend even 0.0625% on this. Think about that.

      nerasmus1 - 2012-01-09 22:39

      @Con Why not raise empty fists themselves? It used to be the ANC norm not so long ago. This is like standing next to a cardboard begger by a traffic light, holding up a silver platter engraved with "Got Work, Got Mansion, Got 4x4. Need Buggati Veyron and Caviar. Please Help." They could've had their champagne at a VIP's only gala dinner afterwards and nobody would've been a wiser. Call me racist if you will, (second thought, don't, cause that's getting old) but I was raised to know that eating a chocolate alone infront of somebody else, is just rude.

  • Ronald - 2012-01-08 23:14

    "The leaders will now enjoy the champagne, and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips". And with those words Motlanthe inadvertently described the whole of the present ANC leadership. How wrong that only the leaders of the ANC should enjoy the trappings of success that the masses fought for, just to then rub it in at the centenary celebrations.

  • David.Allen.Murray - 2012-01-08 23:18

    I think that it is obvious who people wanted to see and it was Julius Malema and not Zuma.

  • Cracker - 2012-01-08 23:23

    "The leaders will now enjoy the champagne, and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips,". DID he ACTUALLY say the words? If he did he must have been pissed already and/or sun stroked. The words will go down in this country's history as the most irresponsible statement ever. Not even the purple lizard - JM - could have matched such irresponsibility.

  • intenetdebris - 2012-01-08 23:38

    Eventually, heads will roll.

      Callie Steijn - 2012-01-08 23:56


  • sibusiso.kuzwayo - 2012-01-08 23:44

    Telling that statement by our DP!

  • mlvwk - 2012-01-08 23:48

    "And now champagne will be enjoyed by the leaders" - translated - the leaders will continue receiving huge salaries, drive luxury cars, live in mansions, travel overseas 6+ times each year, become corrupt millionaires and receive golden handshakes regardless. "they do so on your behalf through THEIR lips (or bank accounts)" - translation - you bunch of morons, find your own water.

  • Sinudeity - 2012-01-08 23:48

    "The leaders will now enjoy the champagne, and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips" Sums up the ANC perfectly right here.

  • Callie Steijn - 2012-01-08 23:55

    Motlante ever so eloquently flipping the remaining lemmings the bird.

  • TheWatcher - 2012-01-09 00:03

    'Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe proposed a toast and told the half-empty stadium that if they did not have champagne, they could take photographs of their leaders drinking, or raise clenched fists. "The leaders will now enjoy the champagne, and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips," he said.' "No one believes more firmly than Comrade Napoleon that all animals are equal. He would be only too happy to let you make your decisions for yourselves. But sometimes you might make the wrong decisions, comrades, and then where should we be?" Oh wait... sorry I got confused... are we reading George Orwell or not? - 2012-01-09 10:18

      LOL! I thought the exact same thing. If I could, I'd give you 100 thumbs up!

  • H - 2012-01-09 00:08

    No reports of a stampede to snap a good close-up of that champagne? I guess the people weren't thirsty. A good jpeg of a politician drinking champers is just the ticket on a hot day. Such largesse. Truly, they are a beacon.

  • CoronaSherona - 2012-01-09 00:25

    You don't have to call the ANC stupid, they are perfectly capable of doing that themselves over and over and over. "Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe proposed a toast and told the half-empty stadium that if they did not have champagne, they could take photographs of their leaders drinking, or raise clenched fists. "The leaders will now enjoy the champagne, and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips," he said." Seriously.

  • David - 2012-01-09 02:04

    "The leaders will now enjoy the champagne, and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips..." What an epitaph for the ANC!

  • Andries - 2012-01-09 02:12

    ".......english is not this native's language......." Of course not.

      Jerhone - 2012-01-09 10:15

      But stealing is

      Dewald G. - 2012-01-09 10:56

      @jerhone - well said

  • Sean - 2012-01-09 02:29

    I just wonder whether the "supporters" realise the difference between the real "Champagne" and Sparkling Wine, not to mention the the price difference - what arrogance to even mention "Champagne"! The poor can hardly afford a bottle of sparkling warer! The arrogance this so called government has even to their own supporters!?

      pws69 - 2012-01-09 07:14

      No forgetting that Champagne is French (onyl French producers can use that name, the rest use Sparkling wine). These clowns won't even drink a product from their own country.

      Henk - 2012-01-09 16:10

      Again, they jumped between culture and progress with their usual alacrity. Killing a bull as cruelly as possible today to relish in the bellows (could have killed it quickly) and sipping champagne the next (should have gulped Tlokwe from the calabash). It must be great to hape so many options and always have some inane excuse ready when questioned.

  • leko.dada1 - 2012-01-09 02:34

    Judging most whites people's negative comments and some DA blacks members clearly making subjective affirmation towards thier masters...I JUST FEEL PROUD TO BE DUMB/UNEDUCATED ,atleast I'm not technicaly controlled! No wonder DA's faillure to produce policies that could attract the masses, it depends on extreme critics/blots and members who are so desperate to intellectuals.

      George - 2012-01-09 05:43

      Hey Leko, its i before e except after c.

      Michael - 2012-01-09 08:14

      You'll eat your words - just wait for that black lady to make the move in the next elections - and I'm not refering to Winnie the Pooh!

      Lionel - 2012-01-09 08:53

      Your comments clearly put you in the race obsessed category - just like the rest of the ANC morons - that is why the DA is going to triumph - most South Africans are sick and tired of meaningless rhetoric and want real transformation - something only the DA can DELIVER!.

      Denny - 2012-01-09 09:36

      Have you ever read the DA's policies, Leko? They are (sadly imo) broadly similar to those of the ANC. The primary difference is that the DA have shown they can implement them fairly successfully with far lower levels of corruption.

      Mvikeli - 2012-01-09 13:13

      Leko, are you an ANC member? Did you feel represented by the members having Champagne on your behalf?

      Eric Schollar - 2012-01-11 05:17

      Actually the DA's policy is to be better socialists than the ANC. And they would never make stupid comments about drinking bubbly on behalf of the masses!

  • leko.dada1 - 2012-01-09 02:38

    members who are so desperate to be intellectuals!

  • Eduard - 2012-01-09 02:59

    "watch people drink champagne"....hungry people watch others eat......can you imagine that? What kind of character insinuate something like that?

  • Grant - 2012-01-09 03:20

    The chapagne comment by Motlante defies belief. Tens of thousands of ANC supporters arrived from around the country. They had to endure the heat and a 90 minute speach. All I can say is that if they continue to vote for the ANC they will get what they deserve. Thousands were turned away from the stadium after traveling accross the country and thousands more left early. It will be interesting to see what reports the people take home. Sadly though the people have been so dumbed down and reduced to surviving on grants that they will probably to continue voting for the ANC or abstain.

      flysouth - 2012-01-10 13:29

      The statement illustrates, even to the dumbest of the dumb, what the ANC really stands for - and it is not, and never has been "for the people". I am hopeful that the time is fast approaching when even the blind loyalist-type of ANC voter will come to realise this. All wheels will turn eventually!

  • John Steyn - 2012-01-09 03:32

    Ubhejane, you are so Mindlessly racist, like some robot spewing out extreme ANC rhetoric. Grow up/wake up and smell the reality of mzansi 2012. Open your mind son.

      Michael - 2012-01-09 08:16

      Unfortunately he is unable to open a door, never mind his mind!

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 14:20

      LOL LOL John. If only you knew where I place my precious little x.......if only you knew!!! And as for opening my mind are right...I wouldn't know and if it is ever opened, I'm afraid they will discover a BIG empty void there!

  • tsholon1 - 2012-01-09 03:33

    The celebration was worth it, looking from where party come. Today the party lack plan, the speech was boring. What is the ANC planning for the next 100 years? We would love to hear how that spirit of selfless leadership will be relived; how the party as government plans to develop the country and improve the lives of its citizens not foreigners;what caused faction fights within the party and how is that going to be resolved? The part will be there in the next 100 years but will it still be strong, people leaving during the speech of the president is an indication of a big division within the ANC; Dr. Zuma wake up.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 09:34

      I fully agree with you. This speech did nothing to tell me where we are going. We all have read the history books and didn't need a lesson in history.

      Dewald G. - 2012-01-09 11:03

      @ubhejane - 'where we are going?' Come boy this isn't takalani sesame... think on your feet. There is NO vision.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 11:26

      @truth24. As much vision as you that were brought up on Takalani. We didn't have a TV, so while you were watching Disney movies we were being killed. I had to post this comment in reply to your ridiculous racist reply to mine. You know why I can sit here today and stand my ground against racist like you? I am a survivor unlike the Millions that fled to go infest Australia.

      Truth24 - 2012-01-09 12:21

      Racist reply? Lol. ubhenaje - You are a typical product of BEE. The typical 'chip on the shoulder' black diamond. When you don't like something it MUST be a racist remark. Right? Even when the remark is spot on. The only reason you're allowed to stand your ground is because the majority of white voters allowed it. Or did you forget the pre 94 ANC members who were either sitting overseas or on Robben Island?

      roftyleroux - 2012-01-09 15:05

      Haha ubhejane. "I am a survivor unlike the Millions that fled to go infest Australia." "From where I'm posting this morning in New York, South Africa's BEE/AA policies will help me nothing!!!!" Busted!!!! Go back to your bridge, you troll.

      Henk - 2012-01-09 16:15

      Is he really now a Doctor?! Years ago some school kids skipped a year when they were very, very clever. But to skip 40 years? Amazing.

  • Wizcom - 2012-01-09 04:23

    The end is near for the ANC. Near may be years from now, but it will eventualy buckle and a more prosperous party shall lead. Nothing lasts forever!

      Michael - 2012-01-09 08:22

      Then put your cross where it matters - the DA has a new leader with vision - vote fot her!

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 09:35

      @Michael!!!!!!!!!!!!! Is this possible??????? We agree on something!!!!

  • Grant - 2012-01-09 04:36

    That 90 minute speach must have been hell. I'm English speaking but often have trouble understanding what Zuma is saying. His accent and the tendancy for his speach writers to make up words e.g "defeat the demon of factionalism". I wonder if anybody had a clue what he was on about... I wonder if this will be the year that the ANC rips itself apart? If so I just hope there is no 'spill over' as we can't all move to the Cape.

  • John - 2012-01-09 04:52

    Political outbursts without action are nothing but a hollow tree. Much said and discussed and yet very little action or solutions brought forward. My challenge for everyone on this blog is very simple, for every negative point put forward your desired solution, no kids here please. Thanks to democracy that the ANC brought (lol) all views should be welcome. Comments without objectivity rather subjective should really not be posted......I know the intellectually challenged may find it hard to fathom my challenge but I dare all....

      Garth - 2012-01-09 08:07

      You first.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 09:39

      @Garth. He wasn't inviting you or me. He said objective people and you and I can't even spell the word objective, let alone apply it. We are going to spend the rest of our lives slinging mud at each other and enjoying every minute!

  • Rassy L Lethoba - 2012-01-09 05:27

    People... I think you hate Mr JZ with passion, i did not get to listen the complete speech, but i guess he was trying to tell some of you where the his party is coming from, i do not know about were his party i heading, about the English, lets grow up when would they(He) had time to do that because he (they) were running/hiding from the oppressors, actually i think people all over the world are interested in this country otherwise they would nt be having time to listen i mean even 10 sec, to all those who have very negative comments about the ruling party are lucky that this is not Zim otherwise they would have been long gone back to Britain.

  • BlueHawk - 2012-01-09 05:35

    All 'people' are equal, some people are just more equal than others! Ring a bell? Must be the stupidest comment on champagne ever!

      Modise Lesley Letsatsi - 2012-01-09 06:13

      It sounded more humorous than stupid

  • Wesley - 2012-01-09 05:48

    I would also left rather sit an listen to 90 min speech

      Peter - 2012-01-09 07:04

      I dont think zuma would even be able to be a herdboy these days, he would have forgotten what cows and bulls are. He really has lost touch with the south african masses thank goodness, as for the rest of the leaders they are pathetic just looking after themselves

  • Catherine - 2012-01-09 05:48

    I'm amazed that so many people waste their energy on racism and reverse racism. Australians: please keep to your side of the world; Africans, let's work together to see the way through our situation. Read books like "Dead Aid" and "The case for business in Developing countries" and let's focus on what counts - improving the lot of the poor - rather than supporting or condemning our leadership. The two books I've just quoted are written by 1. A black African; and 2. A white South African, and they speak the same language. So, grow up and see the light!

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 08:13

      @Peter. R24,709 one way ticket to Sydney. Leave your BMW keys at the airport in it. I need a new car. But if it is a 3 Series, then don't bother. It must at least be an X5 with Satnav and a panoramic roof. Hopefully it will be a white one, so I can remember you!

      Albert - 2012-01-09 09:00

      Ubujaan,like everything else ,you want it for free.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 09:45

      @Albert. Yes please give it to me free. I am so tired of slogging it away at work. It is only fair that I get a new Porsche Cayenne now and a few hot girls to do me all day long. Why would I want to work when your tax money can bring me so much joy??????

      Linda - 2012-01-09 12:49

      Quick question - what is "reverse racism?" Racism is racism.

      ubhejane - 2012-01-09 13:38

      @Linda. LOL LOL. Very true!!!!!

      roftyleroux - 2012-01-09 15:08

      White against Black - Racism Black against White - Fight for Freedom

  • Hazel - 2012-01-09 06:11

    What were his script writers thinking. Who in their right mind would stay for 90 min to listen to a lot of waffle. They have better things to do.

      Dewald G. - 2012-01-09 11:06

      No they don't

  • Terry - 2012-01-09 06:16

    Did JZ slaughter the bull?

      Reginald - 2012-01-09 06:29

      they are called the african national con-gress they think they are moral and true, oh yes but really they are thugs and morons and thieves and wathcing them one cringes and grieves because they are plunging us into a pit of cess!

  • godesha - 2012-01-09 06:27

    Yes, let them eat cake. We will drink champagne whilst a large portion of the country's population does not even have running water. But we all know what happened to Marie-Antoinette My thoughts are that the ANC is busy digging their own grave slowly but surely and I will be cheering them on all the way.

  • munyaradzi.ncube - 2012-01-09 06:41

    Kikikikiki. Nice one Motlanthe!!!!!!

  • pws69 - 2012-01-09 06:54

    "The leaders will now enjoy the champagne, and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips," he said. That about sums up the ANC of today.

  • louis.kirstein1 - 2012-01-09 06:58

    And this is how the french revolution started. Leadership out of touch with the common people.

  • Wouter - 2012-01-09 06:59

    Is this the beginning of the end?

      Peter - 2012-01-09 07:07


  • keketso.polisa1 - 2012-01-09 07:09

    "The leaders will now enjoy the champagne, and of course they do so on your behalf through their lips." Shame. So this is what it has always been about?

      Sanet Oelofse - 2012-01-09 07:39

      Yes he was just reminding the masses that they will be rich on their behalf.

      Silver - 2012-01-09 07:43

      .... and Sushi on some naked chick.

      keketso.polisa1 - 2012-01-09 07:44

      Eish, I feel

  • jack.kukard - 2012-01-09 07:11

    Hau , no kentucky or t - shirts ....Damm

  • Deeteem - 2012-01-09 07:11

    Same boring standard ANC spin !!

  • SamuraiMama - 2012-01-09 07:13

    Plonker. And as we sit and watch, the empire crumbles and the big worm is so stupid, it's started consuming itself by eating its own tail, out of greed...

  • gennath - 2012-01-09 07:15

    I'm quite convinced that a speech that listed all the things they'd receive for free while not working for it would have kept them in their seats.

  • schalk.v.tonder - 2012-01-09 07:18

    All Pigs are equal but some pigs are more equal than others ............

  • Hannetjie - 2012-01-09 07:19

    The feedback I got was that the speech started late. In any case, why leave the keynote speech until 16h00 on the last day if thousands of people have to travel back to Gauteng, Limpopo. KZN, etc. Definitely not the smartest planning!!!! And in addition, the speech was toolong and 'promised' nothing new to the masses!!!!

      Wayne - 2012-01-09 07:47

      Anybody watch the church service? Besides the few true words spoken by the Bishop, The organising was a total disaster! It was Chaos, not a church service. Whoever was in charge of this fiasco, is a disgrace to the ANC and S.A.

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-01-09 09:40

      What? no, job promises?

  • alfie.dunn - 2012-01-09 07:19

    Once a clown, always a clown...