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4 500 delegates to vote in Mangaung

2012-10-02 18:16

Johannesburg - The allocation of voting delegates for the ANC's national elective conference in Mangaung later this year was decided on Tuesday, the party said.

A team from the national executive council agreed on the formula that was used to allocate the last 416 branch voting delegates into the final total of 4 500 delegates, spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said in a statement.

The best-represented province would be President Jacob Zuma's home province KwaZulu-Natal with 974 delegates, followed by the Eastern Cape and Limpopo with 676 and 574 respectively.

Gauteng would have 500 voting delegates, Mpumalanga 467, the Free State 324, and North West 234.

Only 176 voting delegates would come from the Northern Cape while 178 would come from the Western Cape.

The branch voting delegates comprised 91.2% of the total.

The remaining 8.8% were members of the NEC, and the party's provinces and leagues.

Forty-five would attend on behalf of the ANC Women's League and the same number for the Youth and Veterans Leagues.

Eighty-two members of the ANC NEC would attend and 180 from the provinces.

"These allocations total 4 500 delegates, who will participate as voting delegates in the 53rd ANC National Conference in December," Mthembu said.

Comments
  • Paul Mphap - 2012-10-02 18:22

    who cares?

      squeegee.pilot - 2012-10-02 18:31

      What is it going to cost? Who gets to skim money off the tenders, etc?

      ken.rowe.509 - 2012-10-02 18:50

      My feelings exactly.

      nicholas.graan - 2012-10-02 18:51

      0.00009% of the population deciding on who is going to lead us for the next few years ...

      Vince.York - 2012-10-02 19:03

      "a Front" runner cares! http://constitutionallyspeaking.co.za/nkandla-upgrade-the-looting-of-public-funds-for-private-enrichment/

      jackie.stone.501 - 2012-10-02 19:42

      I think the people of south Africa do care because people shall govern

      phuti.hlabane - 2012-10-02 19:47

      I can't believe u asked tht question?is either u r a moron or an alien,every normal person has to care because this leadership tht shall be elected shall determine the future of S.A.

      Paul Mphap - 2012-10-02 20:11

      @phuti.....u sound like somebody who just follow the rhythm....ur zoomer is killing our beautiful country....cant u see that? get life & stop thinking like an empty minded idiot.

      sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-10-02 20:30

      South Africa’s credit rating was cut by Moody’s Investors Service because of the government’s inability to deal with economic and political challenges amid the worst mining violence since the end of apartheid... Bloomberg I CARE - The current government has been weighed and found to be lacking. They are incompetent and incapable of attending to their mandate, serving the people of South Africa. They are acting like hyenas around a rotting carcass. The time for change is now!

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-02 20:51

      @Jackie ~ The people shall govern? How's that working out for you because from I can see 'the people' are not capable of governing the running of a bath, let alone a country. It's your downfall pal, and I'm lovin' it.

      konrad.hauptfleisch - 2012-10-02 21:58

      I care. I am sitting in Bonn, Germany,working on a two year contract over here. I am crying when I read the negative, racist, bigoted and mindless comments made on this site all the time. I cannot wait to come back to my beloved Mzansi with all its warts and vibes and silliness, but when I read what most of you are saying, I realise that most whites in SA have not moved an inch towards reconciliation. This, after I stood in line to vote at a whitey to bring in a new age. Sad, distressing and heartbreaking to see what people really think. Cry, my beloved country...

      sibusiso.mhlongo.35 - 2012-10-02 23:48

      the majority of the peope of this country

      lyall.chazen - 2012-10-03 00:09

      @Konrad Then stay in functional first world Germany so you can keep living in that fictional rainbow dream of yours where Mandela is still nobly leading all South Africans to a brighter tomorrow. The very mention of the word "reconciliation" is completely redundant and ignorant terminology now and even embarrassing to use. The ANC themselves made reconciliation impossible for whites due to their racist policies which have only enriched themselves and have only managed to create a racial enclave for themselves in the past 18 years. The minute you step off the plane at OR Tambo you will quickly be reminded of REALITY and how standards keep declining so quickly if you're even away for a year.

      themba.maseko.568 - 2012-10-03 09:38

      SharonEWhat about mining companies? We are always told that government should not interfere in business so why blame governments for strikes?

      mike.dufham.7 - 2012-10-03 22:06

      Delegates why not denigrates?

  • lownabester - 2012-10-02 18:22

    How many will be legit!!!

  • Vince.York - 2012-10-02 18:27

    4500 holding SA to ransom? now THAT is democracy African renaissance style! happy future striking & toyi toyi'ing and burning down all infrastructure same ol' same ol' same - Never to change!

      Vince.York - 2012-10-02 19:45

      @lestjam - I DO think most people can spell "RIGGED"

      kella.magakwe - 2012-10-02 20:18

      York, u want 2 be a delege? Then join Anc then ua voice can count

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-02 20:52

      @kella ~ Over my dead body. I have morals and would never lower myself to be a member of cANCer. Only the lowest of the low would associate themselves with that filth.

      juicecard.tshaka - 2012-10-03 03:47

      Most commendators on this forum choose to ignore the truthful facts for their warped daydreaming.Lesetjam is absolutely correct to say its a party choosing its leaders to represent it come general elections.The leader chosen by the party is not guaranteed the presidential position of the country coz the electrote ie you and me have the power to deny that. Whats difficult to grasp here?

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-10-02 18:34

    4500 greedy morons fighting for a slice of a diminishing Pie.

  • tobydt - 2012-10-02 18:36

    Just like in Polokwane, people were bribed to 'vote for the right man'.

      sharon.erwin.96 - 2012-10-02 19:27

      hand-picked for best result! How does anyone know if these delegates vote as their branches wish, or from the back-pocket?

  • hlanganani.m.baloyiteyisi - 2012-10-02 18:36

    Is about time..if jz get the 2nd term my vote goes to DA.

      pieriewaaier.zooms - 2012-10-02 18:48

      @Paul Mphap. Lol! Pity the poor chickens.

  • hloniphile.fakazi - 2012-10-02 18:51

    I'll be there! Zuma fan!!!! Thatha msholozi

      retha.vosloo.5 - 2012-10-02 19:35

      You also have only gr 3?

      sizwe.ntuli.332 - 2012-10-02 21:44

      U just want to b wife no 6

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-10-02 19:02

    4500 morons having a ball on the tax-payers expense and deciding which moron will head the country for the next few years. just brilliant. @ Sean wolf, is it a bunch of clowns going ape or a bnch of @pes acting like clowns?

      baba.mtimkulu.31 - 2012-10-02 19:37

      what taxpayers' expense? your arrogance is baffling!

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-02 20:48

      There u go agen callling africans apes, and u want africans to vote for da? Apartheid has created a total idiot out of you, you ought to be castrated, your offprings are undisirable.

  • maokeng.mankge - 2012-10-02 19:02

    I see nothing good bwt dis ANC anyway jst wish the DA can take over nationally.ANC is busy blaming apartheid while failing n stealing frm us..To hell with mangaung

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-10-02 19:23

    That's one hell of a gravy train. The R 675 billion lost to corruption could have built 13 million RDP houses. Wonder how many could have been built with all the party money. So you still wonder why there's no service delivery?

  • mukosit - 2012-10-02 19:25

    Taitanic is going down.

      pierre.walt - 2012-10-02 21:33

      Titanic my friend? What about dumb ass movie?

  • Paul Mphap - 2012-10-02 19:29

    @ lesetja....yr anc is f@ck dup...bunch of corrupt leaders who waste our tax money for their own benefits. im forking out R7K per month on tax but yet no water, sanitation, etc where i was born. 18yrs after apartheid but somebody still blaming it for their own failure, WTF. im proudly black & im telling u DA is not as corrupt as anc....

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-02 20:43

      There nothing black about you.

  • sizwe.nyembe - 2012-10-02 19:31

    Cde Msholozi has his support intact in Kwazulu-Natal, Mpumalanga, and Free State. He'll also get 50% of Limpopo, North West and Gauteng. Cde Msholozi for the 2nd term!

      mxeki.maduvula - 2012-10-02 20:26

      Zuma again? The damage he did is enough man. The guy has failed our economy dismally!

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-02 20:41

      Viva msholozi viva.

      Tman.th - 2012-10-02 22:26

      Viva Msholozi Viva.

  • sminx.r.mandla - 2012-10-02 19:33

    Why should 4500 people be allowed to represent SA as a whole, cs I can bet half of them don't even pay tax!!! Let's hope this double-headed twat doesn't get a second term

      kella.magakwe - 2012-10-02 20:10

      Thats rubbish, they only vote 4 our(ANC) party leaderz

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-02 20:39

      Its the masses that decide who leads in the country.

  • Bra Tebzaah Sibilanga - 2012-10-02 19:41

    Headline should read as follows:4500 idiots to vote for other idiots in maidiot town.

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-02 20:36

      I feel pity 4 u, a wise man ruled by 'diots'

  • piet.snot.77964 - 2012-10-02 19:42

    I wonder what qualifications these 4500 have - I suppose just long enough snouts to get what is in the gravy trough. I know one who says he is going - max standard 6 ( failed standard 7) and is not very bright and he gets to vote for who will be the next president! The mind he boggles

      danny.levin.351 - 2012-10-02 20:01

      Piet, they are all "branch managers"

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-02 20:53

      @Danny ~ LOL!

  • danny.levin.351 - 2012-10-02 20:01

    @ Baba "what taxpayers' expense?" Just where do you think the money comes to pay for thousands of "delegates" to spend several days in hotels? surely none of them is forking one cent out their own pockets.

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-02 20:32

      From the anc man, not everything that moves is from your pocket.

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-10-02 20:04

    The South African electoral system is outdated. We are voting for the party not candidates. Our president is elected by 4 500 delegates at an ANC national conference. South Africans are expected to vote for a candidate that was elected by 4 500 people at the ANC congress. I strongly believe that the American electoral system is the best in the world.Their system has its own challenges but I still believe it is the best system.The ANC removed Mbeki after a meeting of less than 80 people at Luthuli

  • kim.kritzinger.5 - 2012-10-02 20:37

    Does that mean a block vote from KZN, Limpopo and E/Cape, which equals 49.4% of the total delegates assures Zuma of re-election . God forbid. ??

      lyall.chazen - 2012-10-03 22:49

      That would be the idea, yes. Notice how Gauteng only gets 500 delegates and the Western Cape a measly 178 as these would be the only two provinces which would effectively challenge Zuma.

  • slritchie - 2012-10-02 20:40

    Frightening stuff.... so who will succeed the unschooled, rape accused, adulterous, corrupt, sex obsessed bigot that is our current president??? Sit back and enjoy the show folks....for a glimpse into the future of what happens when you bring democracy to the africans, just look north of our borders... nuff said!

  • Phiwe Mazula'yithole Ximba - 2012-10-02 20:43

    Now Msholozi must prove that it is not Malema who put him on power Thatha Zuma,its only three years your are in Power but now its like 18 Years

  • mxeki.maduvula - 2012-10-02 20:47

    I appeal to the delegation not to make a mistake of re-electing Zuma. Hey, hey, hey! That man has no idea of how to lead people.

  • mxeki.maduvula - 2012-10-02 20:47

    I appeal to the delegation not to make a mistake of re-electing Zuma. Hey, hey, hey! That man has no idea of how to lead people.

      Mkhululi Yekani - 2012-10-03 07:06

      Who has it in anc??

  • irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-02 20:53

    LOL! 'Delegates'. They've only just learnt how to walk upright. Delegates my ass!

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-02 22:48

      Whats wrong with you, uyabhalasha or smthng?

      thabang.bonang.7 - 2012-10-03 09:27

      @Irene, can you ever say anything without swearing at people? And why are you using black surname whilst you know you are not black?

  • BulletProof. - 2012-10-02 21:10

    They will carry on voting Sh***iT, and they will get Sh***iT forever!!!!

  • sydney.gutyungwa - 2012-10-02 21:11

    Here we again people of the south..it is time to reclaim our country back from the hands of corrupt anc leaders who have no heart for Sans. The only important thing about mangaung is the anc itself, right after that, it will back to looting and stealing as usual. Every single passing day corruption scandals rear their ugly heads, it is not funny anymore...tell you what, the anc offers no alternative to apartheid of yesteryear! Every time i read the news in this country, it's either about blade nzimande, montashe, vavi, hot air ministers of spots and health, malema or zuma making another controversial appointment: it is never about the people of south africa, who make this government work. sometimes i wish obama was our president, I heard the man addressing his fellow americans and expressing his government's desire and commitment to relieve its people from high cost of living like fuel hikes..not "PRESIDENT ZUMA"..the man doesn't have a clue about his mandate, zilch. he's too scared and too busy appeasing his unions friends who put him into power! Phansi ngo Zuma!!!

  • Mike Peach - 2012-10-02 21:38

    Irene i love your comment very true.

  • don.mug.3 - 2012-10-02 21:42

    HAIL KING Jacob Nxamalala Zuma, VIVA ANC,LEARNING IS A CURVE we told you.

  • Mike Peach - 2012-10-02 21:42

    Heybo kethu have you also just learnt how to walk upright.

  • sizwe.ntuli.332 - 2012-10-02 21:42

    Somebody will cry after the conference

  • Fundile Lallo - 2012-10-02 22:01

    How do you expect drastic changes in 4 years time, give the man another term to finish what he has started . Zuma for president.

      patrickmpanyana.mogwaneng - 2012-10-03 08:51

      Fundile are you blind.We are tired of DJ Zuma reading notes from his wifes.We needs someone who can think.Without note DJ Zuma is nothing.Now for how long are we going to be govern by his wifes ?

  • konrad.hauptfleisch - 2012-10-02 22:01

    I am sitting in Bonn, Germany,working on a two year contract over here. I am crying when I read the negative, racist, bigoted and mindless comments made on this site all the time. I cannot wait to come back to my beloved Mzansi with all its warts and vibes and silliness, but when I read what most of you are saying, I realise that most whites in SA have not moved an inch towards reconciliation. This, after I stood in line to vote as a whitey with all my fellow South Africans to bring in a new age. Sad, distressing and heartbreaking to see what people really think. Cry, my beloved country...

      margarita.barnard.5 - 2012-10-02 22:13

      What reconciliation? When was black and white ever reconciled? Oh yeah.. maybe while whites were ruling the country and provided everything for the blacks out of white taxpayer money, schools, hospitals, homelands. All given to them for free, nothing asked of them in return. A Good thing too that nothing was asked of them in return since all whites got back from uplifting them was revolution and terrorist bombs.

      BulletProof. - 2012-10-03 17:20

      I like to see you talking like that after they kill all your family and leave you alive to enjoy that for the rest of your life.

  • zola.mazwayi - 2012-10-02 22:03

    Be that as it may,the president has said it himself that ANC always surprises every1 and in this regard the surprise that we are yet to witness is where the ANC delegates from KZN will be voting against Zuma and only IFP/ANC memberz who will be voting in favour of Zuma!

  • mxeki.maduvula - 2012-10-02 22:05

    For the first time in my lifetime I put my hope in the DA for South Africa's good economic health and better lives for all. ANC has lost the appetite of serving the masses of South Africa.

  • lyall.chazen - 2012-10-03 00:12

    Please explain why KZN has 974 delegates practically assuring Mr. Zuma's re-election while Gauteng has only 500 with roughly the same population? I believe I have answered my own question.

      sithembiso.dlalisa - 2012-10-03 13:07

      No you havent.. It doesnt work with population but membership count. KZN ANC has more registered members than any other province hence a high number of delegates... Got it? Good...

  • Prince Bird - 2012-10-03 01:59

    As long as they vote for Zuma my vote will stay with DA. All educated ppl of SA are led by illiterate rapist who fork out their tax to build his new house and marry day in and day out. Only fools will vote for Him.

      mlamuli.sibindi - 2012-10-03 20:42

      u'r so stupid....Zuma wl re-elected wether u like it or not

      lyall.chazen - 2012-10-03 22:54

      Get all the fools on your side and you can be elected to anything.

  • mzijimmym - 2012-10-03 04:39

    It is my prayer that the delgates who go to Mangaung will vote to power a leadership which will be moral,full of Godly wisdom and fear of the Lord.People who will be prepared to the interest of the country first and not be there for their own self-enrichment.Here is an encouraging scripture for those who are discouraged by immoral and selfish leadership who have failed so many South Africans"Iknow the plans I have for you says the Lord.They are plans for good and not for disaster,to give you a future a hope." I CALL ON ALL CHRISTIAN TO PRAY FOR MANGAUNG!

      Mkhululi Yekani - 2012-10-03 06:55

      The is no political leader dat fears God in dis parts, hav u ever hear them talkng abwt God, they over look Gods Law.

  • jansteyn4 - 2012-10-03 07:16

    Not a peep about the ridiculous rise of ANC membership in Zuma's strongholds. Oh well he has stolen everything he could reach thus far. Stealing the election like he is can only be done with the help of the Elite. This ruthless venal buffoon is the leader of the most inherently corrupt government where ineptness is only beaten by greed.He got his bribe from France for the nuke plants and through the Gupta's and his young son he scores billions from the China rail deal.He has indebted our grand children with these deals and u can bet on it he is not going to let up for the next four years. His concern for his people is demonstrated by a 10% mental retardation caused by malnutrition in the Transkei.

  • Mkhululi Yekani - 2012-10-03 07:28

    If ppl cld go back 2 God, they wil know that no part can lead us 2 unity and gud morals wich know no God. ANC, DA, UDM, COPE..... non of them wil be gud.\r\nIf we want unity and gud morals in our leaders, who wont use black and white words, vote 4 ACDP. Blv me wil always talk abwt whites and blacks if we vote 4 anc and da.\r\nI wil neva voting in my life.

  • Mkhululi Yekani - 2012-10-03 07:29

    If ppl cld go back 2 God, they wil know that no part can lead us 2 unity and gud morals wich know no God. ANC, DA, UDM, COPE..... non of them wil be gud.\r\nIf we want unity and gud morals in our leaders, who wont use black and white words, vote 4 ACDP. Blv me wil always talk abwt whites and blacks if we vote 4 anc and da.\r\nI wil neva voting in my life.

  • thethird.wors - 2012-10-03 10:07

    Isn't it sad that 4500 retards get to decide the fate of the nation?

  • ingrid.oberholzer - 2012-10-03 12:32

    My driver says, the word on the street this is going to be the best in house fighting conference ever. A massive power struggle. Good Luck Bloemfontein that goodness I don't live there.

  • lindiwe.malindismogwaneng - 2012-10-03 12:46

    For the sake of our economy and living conditions, I hate ANC cos its leaders just want what is good for them and their famalies not for the country. the country s resources are used to help certain people while many people suffer

  • rhulani.machavelli - 2012-10-03 17:31

    @Nicolas.graan, you surely haven't been a maths student in your life. Plz dont try to be one on a public platform n embarass yourself. Thats 0.0089% based on 2011 population numbers.

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