6 hours for ANCYL arguments

2012-02-13 10:46

Johannesburg - Six hours have been set aside on Monday to allow three ANC Youth League leaders to argue in mitigation of their suspension from the ruling party, the ANC's disciplinary committee said.

"The sitting will also receive arguments for aggravating circumstances from the ANC as per the decision of the NDCA [national disciplinary committee of appeals]... the ANC's aggravating argument will also be allocated two hours in total," NDC chairperson Derek Hanekom said in a statement.

Arguments in mitigation for ANC Youth League leader Julius Malema, his spokesperson Floyd Shivambu and the league's secretary general Sindiso Magaqa started at 08:00 on Monday.

On Sunday, during a closed session of the ANCYL's lekgotla, Malema told delegates he had received a letter from the committee only on Saturday informing him, Shivambu and Magaqa, that they had to be at the mitigation proceedings.

Hanekom denied this, saying the NDC and the youth league had met on Wednesday, February 8, in a pre-hearing conference and agreed on the date for the mitigation and aggravating arguments.

"Secondly, we want to place on record that formal letters were sent to each individual on Thursday, February 9 to confirm the sitting," Hanekom said.

Hanekom said the NDC wanted to correct "misleading" statements that the ANCYL leaders were charged for their calling for the nationalisation of mines, expropriation of land and "economic freedom".

"At not stage were these issues a factor in the current cases. Any argument suggesting that the hearings at any stage had anything to do with these issues is devoid of any truth."

Last Saturday, the ANC's appeals committee announced that attempts by Malema, Shivambu, Magaqa and three other ANCYL officials to have the guilty verdicts against them overturned were dismissed.

They were found guilty in November last year of bringing the ANC into disrepute and of sowing division in the party.

This was after they made comments about regime change in Botswana, undermined Public Enterprises Minister Malusi Gigaba's authority, insulted a journalist, and compared President Jacob Zuma unfavourably with his predecessor Thabo Mbeki.

  • procold2 - 2012-02-13 10:50

    so by 2 o clock juju will be unemployed

      Gigo - 2012-02-13 10:54


      procold2 - 2012-02-13 11:01

      hey sganga maybe will be working along side you at a sewage farm tomorrow shoveling sh@t

      Gigo - 2012-02-13 11:06

      Lol Shame poor procold2.

      Gerhard - 2012-02-13 11:22

      Don't forget Floyd and Sindiso!! Good riddance...

      brionyl.french - 2012-02-13 12:03

      Sganja, shame you really have no clue, did Stephano Dimera come here and brain wash you too? Gosh only thought that happened in the imagineray world of TV

      Julie - 2012-02-13 12:12

      We HOPE!

      FlowingRivers - 2012-02-13 12:59

      He's coming back to make these people jump!

      Gerhard - 2012-02-13 16:25

      Sganja and FlowingRivers, don't you want to phone your comrades and let us know the verdict? Are they in or out? You're in so tight with Comrade Malema, you probably have him on speed dial.

  • Bryan - 2012-02-13 10:55

    Extra lessons in woodwork for Juju tomorrow... Carpenters assistant:-)

      Gigo - 2012-02-13 11:01

      Juju's profile is high, he was holding high positions like director, so I think you must be painter and Carpenter not Julius.

      Moss - 2012-02-13 11:25

      You are beyond foolish to think of him that low... R2bln in Limpz ring the bell??

      Danny - 2012-02-13 13:04

      @Sganja - set up your own company for a couple hundred rand and appoint yourself director. It's not actually that difficult to get that title.

      Bryan - 2012-02-13 13:23

      Bwahaha Sganja... Director of what, Maybe you should apply for Juju's vacant position because stupidity is a pre-requisite for the job...Moron!!@Moziz... maybe you can mow Sganja's lawn!!

      CALAMITYSA - 2012-02-13 13:43

      Sganja A director is not a high position. It is somebody with a responsibility to act within the prescriptions of the Companies act. I don't think Juju is capable. See mr Presidents comments on him. It is correct and true!!

      Gigo - 2012-02-13 14:09

      @Paul what?@Danny in fact he was directing more than five companies@Bryan do you ever respond to someone without mentioning 'stupid' word? @CALAMITYSA but he was holding those posts which means he can direct.

      Merven - 2012-02-13 14:21

      Trust me Sganja, nobody wants to see Juju become a carpenter, he failed woodwork.

      Bryan - 2012-02-13 16:03

      @Sganja.. I only use the word stupid where it is entirely neccesary, which in your case is fact! You know what, think before you post absolute hogwash and maybe you might just be surprised next time around.

  • Larry - 2012-02-13 11:07

    How long do they need to go Umm,Aahh, Eish Boss.

  • Nigel - 2012-02-13 11:09

    haha, its amazing that even now, malema is trying to distort the truth, he is delusional, just like Hitler, Mugabe & Gudaffi, if you lie all the time, after a while you start believing your own lies.

  • eradingoana - 2012-02-13 11:11

    Hopefully for the sake of peace, ANC will do the right thing by releasing Juju off his duties. The young man has destroyed the reputation of the Bapedi kids that they are badly groomed by their parents as now sang by Inganezoma. He is a young man we could not be proud off when swearing people of his grandmother 's age but one have to understand that if charity begins at home, I feel pity for the insults his grandmother is going through them from him. If he could swear every adult, nothing stops him to swear his grandmother when she has angered her.

  • Phumi - 2012-02-13 11:13

    Our leaders are not going anywhere because we elected them there and they were not appointed to a position like Lindiwe Mazibuko. By vertue of right you cannot fire or suspend someone that you have not employed! Furthermore any action against our leadership is a declaration of war with the young lions an the entire progressive youth of this country! Hands off our commanders in chief! We are prepared to make this country ungovernable if needs be until our plight for economic justice and land is achieved!

      Annalene - 2012-02-13 11:19

      phumi,another malema idiot.

      J-Man - 2012-02-13 11:27

      "We are prepared to make this country ungovernable if needs be until our plight for economic justice and land is achieved!" - spoken like a true clueless blind sheep.... What a poor idiot you are.

      Gerhard - 2012-02-13 11:30

      Phumi, one of the many unemployed, hungry young lions. Go ahead, try make this country ungovernable, I think you are way outnumbered by people who want to see peace and progress in this country. Older people have much bigger guns than the youth because we can afford to buy them because we have jobs. How is your begging bowl doing? Not as full as you expected?

      makesuthink - 2012-02-13 11:55

      Are you a complete idiot? A member of an organisation, club or association can be suspended or expelled. What land? Your forefathers STOLE the land from the Koi-San. You want to declare war Make sure you are standing in front to catch the first bullet.

      Nigel - 2012-02-13 11:59

      another sheep, get off your lazy butt & get an education

      Gerhard - 2012-02-13 12:01

      Makesuthink, she is not a complete idiot, parts are missing.

      vlings - 2012-02-13 12:04

      Phumi, I hope all the so called young lions don't have the same rot for brains as you do. Go back to that pit you crawled out of.

      brionyl.french - 2012-02-13 12:08

      Remember this world Reveloution, you did it, Libiya just did it, Germany did and and we will do it again... This is not what Nelson Mandela stood for and if you had half a brain you would know this yourself, Malema is gone because he is a disgrace to the ANC , South Africa and basically human kind, If you had half a brain you would ask why did he, how did he and how could he make South Africa the laughing stock of the world.... You are an embarrassment to your society for following like a lil sheep... go jump in that same fire i dare you.... the same burns will occur no one is untouchable

      Hendrik - 2012-02-13 12:09

      In the 1960's and 70's the ANC already vowed to make the country "ungovernable". Since 1994 they have made great strides in accomplishing that task. Now they, the ANC, the ruling party, the government of the day, are sitting with the mess they vowed to create. So what's going to be new?

      Brett - 2012-02-13 12:12

      You and your criminal ilk have already made this country ungovernable.

      Nkosinathi - 2012-02-13 12:36

      Phumi please be specific when you speak of economic justice. These are nice terms to use and can easily sway people over to your way of thinking. So please specify exactly who is the oppressor and exactly what is economic freedom? Do you have any qaulification in economics? Have you ever successfully run a spaza shop? Have you ever succeeded at anything matric included? I 'd rather you talk about education, health, skills, crime and job creation. How do you intend economically liberating uneducated unskilled youths who are always marching at the ANCYL leaders behest in their quest for more political power and wealth instead of being in class learning? Do you intend to promise even more free handouts than the ANC? Who's gonna work so that you have the money to handout? Your rhetoric is very attractive to ignorant people and there is a good possibilty you lot might end up in power on the back of it. However a few months down the line the public will bay for your blood even moreso than of the NP gangsters when the free handouts are not forthcoming. Dont promise people mirages!

      CALAMITYSA - 2012-02-13 13:48

      Phumi - please do not allow Juju to influence you brain and your thinking. You've got a chance to become a normal citizen.

      Merven - 2012-02-13 14:22

      'young lions'????? Bwahahahaaha! Breath, Bwahahahaaha!! You probably means 'young hyenas'?

      Mike - 2012-02-13 15:19

      The only thing you can do better than Malema is spell.

      Mano-Lee - 2012-02-13 16:23

      Typical... when all else fails threaten people with violence. And whats with these names 'demcratic revolution' , 'economic justice'?? Last i looked you were free to participate in the economy?? And its you idiots that voted fat boy in?? Sound like you've already achieved both

  • J-Man - 2012-02-13 11:25

    Another 6 hours wasted on these criminals.

  • malcolm - 2012-02-13 11:43

    Procold, by 2.00 pm JuJu the floating bloated Sh@t will be well and truly flushed.

  • Ray - 2012-02-13 11:48 start putting the noose around his head for all the tender fraud he has committed and lets be done with this idiot forever.

  • Derk - 2012-02-13 11:49

    2 more hours of Juju crap

  • brionyl.french - 2012-02-13 12:02

    Bye bye Juju hallo Happiness.... Hallo Money in provinces...hallo education, food for the starving and definitely hallo to health care, bye bye Julius, Please dont let the door hit you on the way out you stupid fool

  • Andre - 2012-02-13 12:09

    Suspend the rubbish and get over with. He will in the tjoekie soon.

  • Mtshezi Yonk'insipho Iyawasha Mkhize - 2012-02-13 12:09

    Whether Julius goes or not da Whites ought to knw tht we "Africans" fully ascribe to his views... N da war for economic freedom for all shall be our life-long struggle. U whites shd deal with tht .The ANC may get rid Malema but not his views... So take a chill pill, we Hvnt started!

      Brett - 2012-02-13 12:15

      Yes you havent work for "economic freedom"....And I doubt you ever will. You see moron, economic freedom is not gained through war, its gained through hard work. Do you understand the concept of working?

      Alex - 2012-02-13 12:46

      Brett perhaps we do not understand economic freedom and how to obtain it? Mtshezi, could you enlighten us? Does being economically imprisoned mean you suffer from the inability to use VOWELS?

      CALAMITYSA - 2012-02-13 13:52

      Wonderful - That hopefully means that the current ANCYL members are NOT going to vote for the ANC! Makes the chances better for a sober, non-corruptive government. Thank you fot the help JUJU

      Mano-Lee - 2012-02-13 16:30

      @mtshezi, you want economic freedom, go get a job or start a business. No one is stopping you. Incase you havent noticed, Madiba won the elction back in '94 PS: i cant wait to see when 'you get started'. Fat boy started in the ancyl and couldnt even finish that

  • Nhlanhla - 2012-02-13 12:09

    The ANC can deny but deep down in their hearts,they know that Malema and his colleagues were charged for their stance on nationanalisation of mines and expropriation of land issues.

      Nigel - 2012-02-13 12:52

      stop bleating & get an education

  • Louise Higham - 2012-02-13 12:16

    Only the stupid & ignorant agree with Malema, thankfully there not too many of them in SA.

  • Robsschele - 2012-02-13 12:28

    So Malema is still lying about when he received the letter about the meeting this morning. Maybe his mitigation plea will be that he wasn't told in time about the original hearing. He was traind in the ANC way. Deny, deny and deny again. Never admit.

  • Shirley - 2012-02-13 12:42

    Oh for goodness sake-enough already!!!! Surely the anc have more important items on agenda than this overweight,underbrained clown? We all know he is guilty so be done with him!!!!!!!!!!!

      Boichoko Dichaba - 2012-02-13 17:48

      Shirley its clear to me that you are not following his, you are just jumping the wagon that says malema must go. Question 1.have you read the freedom charter? 2.Do you understand what it represent and what it seek to achieve? What is Stress????.... You gave a ride to a beautiful girl,she fainted inside your car and you took her to the hospital.... That is stressful... But at the hospital the Doctor said she is pregnant & congratulates u that you are gonna be a father. You denied,but the girl insisted you Are?!!! This is getting very stressful.... To prove you are not the father,you requested for DNA test. After the test,the Doctor said u're STERILE and u can't impregnate a woman. You are extremely stressed but relieved.... On your way home,you suddenly remem

  • E=MC2 - 2012-02-13 13:56

    I APPEAL I APPEAL... (its getting old now but) yes you are Julius

  • Gary - 2012-02-14 16:44

    And will be the verdict? Let him go and learn to respect to our fellow South Africans.

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