80% of road network beyond design life

2012-09-04 22:26

Cape Town - Maintaining rural roads has to be balanced with a need for improved access routes to key tourist destinations, transport director general George Mahlalela said on Tuesday.

"The question is what do you prioritise?" he asked Parliament's transport portfolio committee.

A typical dilemma was choosing between improving the road to a tourist lodge that accommodated 20 people, or a rural one to an area housing 20 000 people.

Mahlalela said his department understood the serious economic benefits of tourism, but the balancing act needed to be acknowledged at the same time.

"I think we need to have a conversation about these things, to link those. If it's a road to a tourist destination, it should also link to a rural community. We have to create that benefit."

He reiterated that there were insufficient funds to deal with maintenance backlogs.

"We require around R80bn annually to sustain what we have. We are only getting R36bn a year."

Mahlalela said the priority, with the money available, was rural access roads, because they unlocked economic activity.

"Giving timelines is difficult. We could say five years. Then there's this big economic crisis, so we go back. It's an ongoing struggle."

In a document tabled in Tuesday's committee, the department said 80% of the road network was older than its design life of 20 years.

"There is a gradual decrease of roads in good condition and a consequent increase in the length of network from poor to very poor," the document reads.

"The exponential increase in vehicle traffic, specifically freight carriers, necessitates an urgent need to maintain roads."

The current amount of money being pumped into road maintenance would not even begin to deal with backlogs.

The department said it was planning to fast-track the implementation of a new rail policy.

This would lead to the acquisition of new trains, the introduction of Metrorail business expresses in major populated cities, and railway police to protect passengers.

  • ron.samuels.129 - 2012-09-04 22:38

    what have you done with your budget for the past 20 years?

      christelle.james.7 - 2012-09-04 22:54

      Ron - what are you asking? We all know where that money went - and the money for education, and the money for hospitals etc etc

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-04 22:57

      Potholes dotted by roads. Very disappointing. Even in the bad old days, ZA's road infrastructure was the envy of not only Africa but most European countries. We can't be surprised though. If a system can't deliver a textbook, how the [insertrudewordhere] to we expect to maintain our road network

      godfrey.welman - 2012-09-04 23:02

      Pay 5 contractors to repair the road the 1st one never build, and the 2nd to 4th could not fix as they run out of budget after we paid them in full.

      husaberg.twostroke - 2012-09-04 23:13

      Things are looking good in the new Corrupt ANC government South-Africa. Dit lyk my alles vrot in daai plek. Dis n jammerte.

      mark.a.fysh - 2012-09-05 00:47

      Yes, what have you done withe budget, George Mahlalela and your ANC. You obviously don't believe in maintainance and therefore drive your costs sky high when everything starts to collapse and you have spent the money on day-to-day vote-catching stuff for the people, that don't help them to help themselves. The beloved country is rapidly becoming, roadless, railess, schooless and idiot-like. You want an answer. Make the funds available from wasted spending and run a tight ship - what is so difficult!

      juan.prinsloo.750 - 2012-09-05 02:57

      Getting so tired of this lame "there is no money" excuse while the inner circle lives a life of corruption in luxury, shampagne, sushi, BMW SUVs and 2BN dollar jets. They didn't say there was no money when Zuma wanted a new jet, it was public pressure that stopped them

      foodfor.thought.73 - 2012-09-05 05:17

      More money is spent on changing street names, than maintaining the actual road... Sure the people after which the roads are named will feel proud about the image which are creating of them...

      fussed.anderson - 2012-09-05 06:21

      It was all there in 94. All it took was maintaince, and this is still not happening. The only holes being filled are there pockets

      Vince.York - 2012-09-05 06:41

      More than 80% of all these years budgets (not only roads) is carefully 'rolled & dimpled' into a few thousand connected corrupt anc crony cadres' necks, thighs and backsides AND they are about to make it 100% to displace their union allies and remove democracy by the final ACT / BILL to empower their royal tribal goons overall again. The 3rd, 4th, & up the 7th force and agenda has long been clearly apparent from the sub layer within the racist anc string pulled by the most vitriolic bitter indian and other racists that usurped the anc from it's stated intent and have stripped the coffers. STRIPPED the coffers is an understatement becasue this new anc have literally outpriced themselves and the youth from the world market thro' AA & BEE & RACIST policies and education. anc cadres have created tools to 'create' non existent money "like banks & fin inst's" that will cost average citizen for many decades to come from all they desired or earn.

      Robin - 2012-09-05 06:50

      SHAME ON THE ANC! Spit

      Mark - 2012-09-05 07:26

      Where was the alarm when it was 5%, 10%, 20% etc? The story of South Africa is either 'too little, too late' or 'too much, too soon'. This is definitely a case of the former.

      trevor.myburgh.12 - 2012-09-05 07:52

      They cant even maintain there children, what about the the responsibility of maintaining a road.

      sean.carbutt - 2012-09-05 08:01

      An interesting fact South African Breweries [SAB] delivers liquor successfully to over 300,000 shebeens across SA weekly, but the SA Government cannot deliver textbooks to 26,000 schools once a year.... If SAB and Government swap delivery methods, we could have a civilised, sober and educated country!

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 08:03

      eish - I have a good idea. Let's toll ALL the roads. That way we can siphon money into the cardre's pockets, involve multiple BEE firms to enrich the already lazy rich select few, and alos get a couple of potholes filled as well as screw over the public. It's a win-win-win-win for all. WTF?

      dave.wilson.71216 - 2012-09-05 08:34

      Changed road names, after all that is so much more important!!!

      heinrich.etsebeth - 2012-09-05 09:00

      They spent the budget on social grants. All they need to do is stop the unnecessary expenditure and economic drain that is associated with dividing something into nothing.

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-09-05 10:07

      Why did Trevor Manual say last week, money is no problem???

      fussed.anderson - 2012-09-05 11:41

      "80% of the road network was older than its design life of 20 years". This makes sense. How long has the anc been in power. The roads were only 2years old when they got there grubby paws on poor sa.

  • gerasimos.komnenus - 2012-09-04 22:40

    Now you wake up? Just another disaster waiting in the wings. Bottom line the ANC cannot plan unless there are personal benefits.

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-04 23:02

      ANC has been lurching from Crisis to Crisis for the last 18 years. Everything has to get beyond the point of no return before they'll admit to failure - despite countless press coverage (viz "What Crisis", "There is no Crisis"). It all ends in the same place "We have a Crisis" and that point "Govt can't solve all the problems, citizens, private sector are to blame/must play a role". Then they roll it all up with "Vote Now! We'll Solve the Problems Later".

      chris.barton.1690 - 2012-09-04 23:45

      Gerasimos, surely we have to ask ourselves why we ever allowed these bovine characters to cease power of the most successful economy on the Dark Continent. The ANC have been in power in South Africa now for how long? 18 years? And what do they have to show for it apart from superb crime and rape statistics? I have no respect for those in charge of this once great country. Not one single facet of what can be considered “normal life” is left unscathed by these pompous asses. Just look at the complete and utter mayhem on our roads, the jaw-dropping filth and squalor, the endless pilfering, theft and looting. Their mantra is “we want…” and “we demand…” but once you hand something over to them, they run it into the ground – guaranteed. They just can’t make a success no matter how much money you throw at them.

      keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-09-05 05:24

      Lacrimose Wolf, the slogan should be Vote ANC now, we'll create problems later. What is the difference between our roads and a cigarette? There's mor tar in a cigarette. I forget the author's name.

      andre.vandeventer.16 - 2012-09-05 07:52

      They can plan, They are constantly planning new houses, cars and massive parties. You are quite correct. They cannot plan food for the army (because it is not for their own consumption), nor can they plan toilet paper for the courts, hospitals, and so one can go on. One thing though, why would they give money for roads if they can rather put the money in their own pockets!

      jake.thesnake.3950 - 2012-09-05 16:17

      This post has been deleted 5 times already, can't figure out why... I originally posted this at 1am on the 5th. I've just noticed something that might not be news to everyone/anyone, but I'll mention it anyway. As you all know, 80% of commenters on this site are generally in agreement, especially when it's about how useless our gumment is. It doesn't matter how well-written, knowledgeable and free of controversy a comment is, there's always an idi0t or five that gives it a thumbs-down. However, this article was posted at 22:26 on the 4th, and by...what's it now...00:47 on the 5th, most of the comments don't have a single thumb-down...except for some dumb-@ss comments. What this means to me is that the dumb $h!ts that usually go against the grain are probably paid by the Yoot Ligg to make us all look unpopular, or the idiotic comment to look intelligent. And they probably knock off at 3 in the afternoon, which is why this article has remained unread by the m0uth-breathers. We should actually check to see what time they finish work, by posting articles at varying times in the afternoon. Any bets it's earlier than 3? :-) I might be wrong, but there's a crowd in China called the 50cent party, and if I recall correctly, some folk got paid 50c per contrary comment they posted, or something to that effect. Hey, at least jobs are being created...sort of!

  • taetjo.mathabatha - 2012-09-04 22:40

    There WAS enough money for the roads but we all know where that money went to.

      godfrey.welman - 2012-09-04 22:55

      @Taetjo .."Accident Fund"

      juan.prinsloo.750 - 2012-09-05 03:00

      Funny during apartheid the government managed to build all sorts of infrastructure and roads, plus they were able to maintain it from a much smaller tax base. Go figure

      sean.carbutt - 2012-09-05 08:02

      @taetjo, there is still enough money - 17% of your fuel bill goes to the roads and maintenance thereof

  • marina.poniatowska - 2012-09-04 22:42

    "A typical dilemma was choosing between improving the road to a tourist lodge that accommodated 20 people, or a rural one to an area housing 20 000 people." As if this government ever worried about the people of this country.

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-04 23:05

      Revenue to govt of 20 tourists a week/month vs 20 000 people the govt cannot and will not provide employment to. Easy bucks.

      Hugh - 2012-09-05 07:47

      Yep amazing that the ANC have never let go of the spending for political gain. They rather throw money away for votes than spend it on what is really needed. Roads - education - health. They were warned ten years ago that the roads were going to fail. That they had to plan ahead. No they rather plan a toll booth that relieves money for voter payment.

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-05 08:07

      yeah - kind of sounds like the electricy debacle all over again. Firing a couple of people, and fleecing the taxpayers is what's to follow.

  • robert.doyle.712 - 2012-09-04 22:43

    Another Zimbabwe. Wonder when South Africa will get a name change and what it will be called. Maybe Zoombabwe lol

      rowan.clark.10 - 2012-09-05 07:32

      try Pansiwe (pansi - down )not Pesulwe(pesul-on top)

  • themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-04 22:47

    Where does the tax on fuel, licence registration, and endless traffic fines go? And where did you get the money to prioritise the road to Zuma`s harem in Nkandla?

      Themba - 2012-09-04 23:01

      May be fuel levy contributes to the R36 billion. But it would be nice to see how is this R36 billion spent.How much goes to excessive admin of tenders, official salaries. How many goes to actual fixing of roads

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-04 23:33

      Somebody's very red Christian Louboutin shoes. Circa R12 500 for one pair of shoes they can't walk in

  • EricksonTL - 2012-09-04 22:49

    Wow. Shocking. An ANC department couldn't handle it's mandate, and doesn't have enough money? That's NEVER happened before... Oh. No. Wait. Business as usual. Carry on. Better yet, blame Verwoed!

  • mullervince - 2012-09-04 22:52


      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-04 23:22

      Yep. After what seems like years of road (does not) works, the M5 to N1 is finally opening up. In all the construction time I saw few trucks/tankers/lorries. Where did those vehicles go? Now that it's a 3 lane - that's all I see. Heavy-duty vehicles, carrying heavy-duty loads. 1 month into the new lanes, already potholes and gouges.

      ec.van.niekerk - 2012-09-04 23:25

      yes i do agree that trucks are F@cking up the roads BUT if the rotten to the core gov did not privatize the railway there would have been no need for trucks and the railway would have still run and the roads would have been for cars and lighter loads ... so blame Verwoerd plz do!!!!!

      butch.poulter - 2012-09-05 08:17

      I run a transport company and know the heavy vehicles are r-ing the nroads up big time, however the previous government had railway systems delivering 1000's of containers to & from Durban, tens of thousends of ton of coal straight into the mouths of the powerstations. If your trucks were caught transporting product that the railways should be moving your vehicle was escourted to the nearest railway station,was unloaded and you were not only fined ,you were charged for the rail transport and the unloading thereof. Go check the roads in mpumalanga where the tippers are delivering coal. Some transport co's have up to 500 trucks. One of the reasons we experianced the blackouts was that Escom only gave transport contracts to BEE companies and we all know what happened then. WELCOME TO AFRICA

  • carl.lutzer.3 - 2012-09-04 22:56

    Suggestion - half the salary of all gov/mun workers to get it in line with what it should be as most of them only do half a days work max - use that saving to fix the roads

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-04 23:48

      Please tell us how your PhD is serving the country? Too many patients out there and most of the doctors are busy doctoring the system instead of doing what you were trained to do - find solutions to the underlying cause.

      Christopher - 2012-09-05 00:32

      a PHD bwahahahahahahaha KReddy go back & ask them for your money back because it clearly helped nothing!

      Thebigguyjim - 2012-09-05 06:29

      A PHD I ask. In what. Tender Rigging perhaps.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-09-05 07:33

      PhD - and a Land Surveyor - please don't tell me your PhD is the reason properties in Dirtbin have been triple valued and properties that ANC members want to purchase suddenly get valued at 59c.

      KReddy - 2012-09-05 09:26

      All you ppl are too quick to judge me instead of my comment. Very f'd up indeed. I hope you do know land surveyors are not involved in property prices and their valuations - ask your banks and the Deeds Office for that info. I said I do agree that the gov is pathetic but because I defended my position in the state organization I am being attacked? Why don't all state departments just shut down or service levels drop even further.. Some of us actually do make things run smoothly instead of having tea till 9 o clock, lunch at 10, and then go home.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-09-05 09:48

      Do you want a medal KReddy, for doing your job? - 2012-09-05 10:32

      @ Carl - A recent independent survey (published on news 24) showed the average private secor worker to be FOUR times more productive than a govt employee. Perhaps you should ratehr recommend their salaries be reduced to a quarter of their current value.

      KReddy - 2012-09-05 10:48

      No I don't. I just don't want to be painted with the same brush as this comment suggests as I do my job effectively. It was not easy getting into my position and I am grateful for it. I know what the perception is of state employees and it is mostly true, we can be useless, but not all of us. That's all. So take your comments and shove it, doubt there's much you can change my ranting here. Unfortunately you guys are stuck with us for a while to come. Need a passport anyone? Or a new sectional title scheme approved? Well suffer.

      goyougoodthing - 2012-09-05 12:57

      And Mr Reddy reverts to government type. You get paid to do your job, do it. Customers and clients are always right and in the private sector, even if we hate them, we have to do the job, at speed and competently. Putting down the go slow because you don't like what is being said highlights why you are in government and not private.

  • dan.gleebits.33 - 2012-09-04 22:57

    This of course explains why our leaders need to spend our taxes on BM X5s. How would they be able to impress the electorate with blue light processions otherwise, given the collapse of the road infrastructure? Same reason why their kids have to go to private schools - someone has to have a proper education to keep the peasants in their place in the coming years - state schools certainly won't do. The ANC post-apartheid reality, 2012. How have they managed to f*ck things up this badly in 18 years?

  • FeebleGastro - 2012-09-04 22:59

    We are being "governed" by stupid, half-wit, incompetents. Par for the Africa course. - 2012-09-05 10:34

      It's called an Ineptocracy: a system of government where the least capable to lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a diminishing number of producers

  • brian.vdwesthuizen - 2012-09-04 23:02

    at the height of apartheid there was money to maintain the roads. when the whites were in charge there was money to maintain the roads. But if criminality is part of your moral fibre. what do you expect. Wait it is still going to get worse. After being out of the country for 5 years i was shocked at my last visit. it has really gone to rack and ruin.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-05 06:40

      During apartheid, you built roads aand enabled only your kind to live like human beings, while condemning the communities from which the `slaves` who built the roads came from. Had you treated everyone else as you treated yourself, we`d probably not be burdened with the current thieves. Now you get get off your high horse

      phillys.winterbottom - 2012-09-05 09:21

      and this twala idiot will still be singing the same song as an excuse for black stupidity!!!

  • blip.noodlum - 2012-09-04 23:04

    The previous regime built and maintained the road to the tourist lodge AND the one to the 20000 person township. But the previous regime didn't fritter away cash on fleets of presidential jets, palaces galore in Nkandla, millions for boozy parties for NYDA, countless five-star imbizos and thousands of "task teams" and so forth. The previous regime knew how to prioritise to build and maintain ALL the roads needed and not make "either/or" choices. Go to the ant, thou sluggard. Consider his ways and be wise.

      hendrik.breed - 2012-09-04 23:13

      Fargit, Blip, nou moet ek jou 'n opduim gee, erg teen my sin!

  • hendrik.breed - 2012-09-04 23:05

    How thef did we get here? We can go on ranting about the spendings of govt officials ans so forth, but what is the way forward? We must get to a point where things have to get turned around. C'mon people, vote right next time!! This country is a sheythole as it is! Only votes and honest hard work can turn this.

      keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-09-05 05:40

      Hendrik, judging by the comments here you are preaching to the converted!

  • DawidDBBotes - 2012-09-04 23:14

    you read this and you ask where is the hope, how the hell are we going to fix this. Well one answer pops to mind, people should vote for a party who actually gives a damm. But no lets vote ANC and lets all get ripped off.

      judith.p.miller.7 - 2012-09-05 00:53

      Speaking to reasonably educated blacks, their answer is to not vote at all: 'what government will do any better?' is there apathetic cry....i told them 'u fought for so many years for freedom and now you are to stupid to vote, at least go and spoil yr ballot' she had never heard that u can spoil your ballot and it gets counted. Anyway too stupid to realise that if u don't turn up to vote then it's diluted and may favour the less apathetic....who might clean the streets of sewerage......

  • eddy.deepfield - 2012-09-04 23:25

    Oh my god here we go again. More toll roads?

  • leonard.w.gray - 2012-09-04 23:27

    The ANC has systematically destroyed all infrastructure (built by 1.8 million white people), which was given to them on a silver platter in 1994. Its astonishing how quickly things have fallen apart. If the ANC cannot handle a basic task such as maintaining roads how can they govern a country? They are incapable of governing a country. I don't understand why people vote for such an incompetent party. Clearly they are useless.

      KReddy - 2012-09-04 23:35

      It was actually built by the black man, technically. Under duress of course. Your point taken though, the muscles are controlled by the brain

      hendrik.breed - 2012-09-04 23:38

      There are Black people more than capable of governing this country, but as long as creatures like slugboy Malema and his cohorts dominates the stages, it will not happen.

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-04 23:42

      It's not astonishing when you consider what the ANC deems important - holding onto hearts and minds. Roads, Water, Electricity, Education, Jobs. Any kind of infrastructure not important and totally counter-revolutionary and declasse. Just one of the fine examples of decadence and bourgeoisie, we don't need these things. Far, far more important things needed to be taken care of. After all, where would all those incendiary devices - schools, libraries, roads, people - come from if they were fulfilling boring pre-struggle promises?

      nxumaloj - 2012-09-05 02:10

      Apartheid government never built roads for the blacks, wake up! They stole every cent to enrich themselves, what they own today was stolen from the majority people of this country. Wake up and know country's history- you always shout nkandla but u don't know where is the place, visit ngwavuma, maphumulo, ndulinde,ndwedwe, ntubeni, msinga, just to mention the few in KZN and open your mouth!

      keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-09-05 05:52

      nxumaloj, you are right about one thing, in the main the Nationalist Government built things to improve the economy. Now, the ANC Government is spending money on grants and letting the roads and buildings rot away. Giving money to people may sound noble, but that money does not generate more money to maintain the country's infrastructure, except through increased spending on consumer goods. It also creates a culture of dependence and I WANT, I DEMAND. My neighbours, nearly all black, tend their gardens and care for their houses because they paid a lot of money for them. A lot of the RDP houses in roughly the same area are looking run down and few have gardens.

      jacques.vermaak.50 - 2012-09-05 07:49

      @nxumaloj how can it be stolen from you if it was never yours?? ha ha even your buddy malema says it was better during appartheid.

  • pieter.sakkie - 2012-09-04 23:36

    lets bring apartheid back and have propper road again

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-05 06:25

      Dude, we have. Gaan to that apartheid zoo called Orania and experience paradise :)

  • bob.small.7547 - 2012-09-04 23:43

    Just history repeating itself, proving Africa will always be Africa! Say what you want, jump up and down as much as you like, I don't particularly care! History does not lie and what’s happening in South Africa is real, just as history has shown it to be in the past! Another African wonderland turned to ruin, by Africans!

  • KCorsar - 2012-09-04 23:45

    Well if the actual budget was spent on maintenance of the ROAD network and not maintaining 'tenderpreneurs' bloated lifestyle or frivolous spending then MAYBE, just maybe this conversation wouldn't be happening...just saying. What is this a prelude to another increase in road levies in the fuel or a full scale toll road exercise? Mmmm???

  • - 2012-09-04 23:46

    how can they say there is no money,when taxpayers pay so much and Zuma and co earn so much

  • ambauli - 2012-09-04 23:50

    Our goverment complaining about lack of funds is like a man dressed in the finest clothes complaining about his hunger *sighs*

  • andy.zondi - 2012-09-05 00:21

    Can we focus on the future and how we r gona fix these issues instead of bitching abt how efficient the apartheid govt was...and if u knw your history, it was the apartheid govt that almost bankrupted the country when the rest of the world woke up and saw the injustices of the old regime nd proceeded to stop trade with sa....U CAN'T GO BAK

      lacrimosewolf - 2012-09-05 00:33

      So you too have fallen for the political spin. ZA produces almost 2/3 of what the world craves in minerals and agri. The 'world' was never asleep. They were busy gobbling up everything we produced. Then. Now, what we produce is not so very important. Science has gone a long way. Where are we, South Africa, in this movie? Still whingeing about the legacy and the inheritance whilst the world move fwd. We've had our 15 minuets of fame. Now we're just part of the world movie. Get over yourselves and your ancient, worn-out, tired, raggedy, totally useless and unproductive paradigms. People who sit on a hill and believe in muti, get killed. It's no different in the business world. If you want to be a player, you have to let the rabbit go.

      andy.zondi - 2012-09-05 00:38

      What are you on about? My comment isn't political, I luv sa just as anyone else does and I hate the direction we are goin financially but wanting to go back to the old ways is the most ignorant thing anyone can say, I'm not ANC, IFP, COSATU or DA, politicians lie to get ahead, if only I was president(wishful thinking)

      andy.zondi - 2012-09-05 00:42

      CHRISTOPHER you're a racist! If u don't wana share sa then go bak where u came frm, england, netherlands, pick a country and leave, ill pay for da plane ticket myself

      nico.vandermerwe.54 - 2012-09-05 00:59

      Vote out the ANC. After which they will probably cling to power or return to being a \liberation\ movement and make SA ungovernable. Nowhere has a liberation movement ever relent power peacefully.

      lionel.defrontignac - 2012-09-05 05:29

      Correct, we can't go back, but you will have to admit that it very sad when we are constrained to use apartheid as a benchmark - the problem with the ANC is that they got greedy, and sold off State assets, like Transnet, so that pals of theirs could have nice bonuses, as so-called executives. It is very sad that this bunch of cretins were unable to achieve new and better standards. It is also sad that all we ever hear from Govt is "Eish!": never any CONCRETE plans about any turnaround strategy - over the last 18 years, all we've heard is "We have a Plan" - I've yet to see what these plans are.

      keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-09-05 05:56

      lacrimosewolf, so we are dancind to a different tune? Sorry, couldn't resist it.

      raven.sqarr - 2012-09-05 10:13

      @ andy.zondi - i nearly took you on on that plane ticket offer ;) but as you said lets look at the future. Now if only the people in sa can be educated about what democracy means, we might go forward. Unforunately those with the voting power wants a dictatorship and thus we are stuck with what we have.

      hughfh - 2012-09-05 11:00

      Andy, I agree with you. To all (white) people out there, can we get one thing clear: if you want to have any sort of credibility regarding complaints about currents issues or better still suggestions about how to improve things, whatever they might be, banish the words "things were better under apartheid" from your hearts, minds and mouths. I know it might be difficult considering the current state of affairs but it was a false paradise!! If a non-white wants to proclaim such things, that's up to them I guess.

  • Christopher - 2012-09-05 00:29

    Another stuff up by the circus called the anc

  • cliff.slabbert - 2012-09-05 00:48

    Your ANC 'Government' are driving the most expensive cars, drinking the most expensive whiskies, wearing the most expensive clothing ,staying in 5 star hotels flying all over the world with your large parties of bodyguards and 'advisor's' ,employing all your buddies, so what did you expect George Mahlalela you genius???????

      andy.zondi - 2012-09-05 01:06

      So wat government do u belong to?

  • Phil.Kleynhans - 2012-09-05 02:03

    There wont be enough because it goes into the pockets of the ANC This is still the beginning of all the sh*t that is coming

      daan.vandenberg.773 - 2012-09-05 09:09

      Have you seen the "new" BBBBEEEEE (wtf)draft? Ons K&K is geboek pel!!!!

  • trevor.bush.9655 - 2012-09-05 02:03

    I hear more TOLL roads coming, here in China there are loads of TOLLS cheap but still tolled and the way our Government is best buddies with China, can expect we will follow and we are, following the same way of governance as the Chinese Communist State. I see so many similarities now between China and the way SA is going...

      keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-09-05 06:01

      Presumably, trevor, the Chinese will come here and build the roads. No, they'll come here and open small shops which force the spazas to close. Result? Conflict.

  • Don.Tandy - 2012-09-05 04:24

    But there is money for absurd road name changes, extravagant travel, defunct submarines and aircraft, tenderpreneurship on a grand scale, BEE at all cost, etc, etc, etc.\r\nAnarchy Nepotism Corruption - the government South African people deserve.

  • peter.mokoena.31 - 2012-09-05 04:45

    Over the years I have seen lot of good roads deteriorating, I have also seen pot holes in the middle of certain towns.We will have no roads soon or will have to pay for their upkeeping, just like Eskom. We have unskilled people leading strategic post and soon those roads will damage our vehicles or eventually kill us. Lot of talk without action or vision is cheap.

  • kobuspeenz - 2012-09-05 04:57

    China builds cheap roads everywhere in Africa. Maybe here too? BTW, the apartheid government didn't bankrupt this country. It did a sparkling job of keeping the economy afloat in the face of international sanctions and a war against the ANC. Stop believing the BS your communist leaders feed you!

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-09-05 05:42

      I have been looking for someone who can teach me how to travel back in time. I also want to experience the joy of the `good old apartheid days.` How does one travel back in time? Will you please share your secret?

      daan.vandenberg.773 - 2012-09-05 09:17

      @ Themba. Embrace a rabbit & jump off the Hilbrow Tower. Noboddy says the "apartheid" time was better. What we are saying is that the "apartheid regime" knew how to plan ahead and do thing correct the first time.

      hughfh - 2012-09-05 11:10

      I replied to Andy higher up in a similar fashion but I think it's time to stop using any previous government as a benchmark (and the current one too of course); it rankles the majority and they are sorely needed onside and onboard if any other political party wants to have even half of chance of dislodging the incumbents.

      cliff.slabbert - 2012-09-05 11:25

      Themba Thwala , you are travelling back in time just watch the roads and it will take you way be to when there were none!

  • randy.wants - 2012-09-05 05:03

    after '94 ,looking at the rest of africa only a moron would have thought things would get better,i mean really

  • foodfor.thought.73 - 2012-09-05 05:17

    More money is spent on changing street names, than maintaining the actual road... Sure the people after which the roads are named will feel proud about the image which are creating of them...

  • lionel.defrontignac - 2012-09-05 05:22

    What a moron - no money, 'cos you blew it on yourself Bluelights and jets are but a small example), no rail 'cos you let things slide. I'm sorry to say this, but most of the infrastructure comes from the apartheid era: what did they think? That it would miraculously maintain itself? How about a hard look at yourselves, starting with a serious pay cut? Then let's re-nationalise Transnet (this would be an excellent employer of low skilled workers as per the poor whites during apartheid, and a platform to skill them up), roll up our sleeves and get to work... Oh, and whilst we are on the subject of transport: NATIONALISE THE TAXI INDUSTRY!

      keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-09-05 06:05

      On your last sentence, do you want to start a war? This is one industry which is working AND making sure it keeps working.

      shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-05 09:00

      Its a given fact that there is NO AFRICAN word for the english MAINTENANCE, look it up and you will see. They dont know what maintenance is, they are under the impression that everything in this world is self substainable for want of a better word.

      daan.vandenberg.773 - 2012-09-05 09:26

      @ Keith. The cANCer is hell bent on destoying successfull farming in SA. They are implementing methods to get rid of, or redistribute, successfull small to medium bussnesses built by whites over many years. So why not nationalise the taxi industry?

  • juannepierre - 2012-09-05 05:22

    One question, why doesn't the Zulu king pay for roads in Zulu land?

      daan.vandenberg.773 - 2012-09-05 09:28

      AND build new houses? waavan praat jy? Daai kan mos nie gebeurni!

  • Muffin_man_can - 2012-09-05 05:49

    Bloody useless cANCer government! If you did your job with the tax money we paid this would not have happened! You failed your duties towards the citizens of this country, step down so the DA can fix your mess.

  • terrylee.heuer - 2012-09-05 05:55

    I'm afraid no money is going to be spent on any roads Govt has far too much debt on their hands!!!! They owe the AG millions they owe millions in rates and taxes the list goes on....sad state of affairs!!!

  • malusi.shumane.7 - 2012-09-05 05:57

    Please, sir, prioritise rural roads. It really baffles me that some people are still championing apartheid. Yes during apartheid 85% of the budget was for 15% of the population which were the whites. And no one gave a damn about rural development. At least this government is trying to reach every corner of our country. Even our tarred roads roads were designed to accomodate the white population hence there too many traffic jams

      EricksonTL - 2012-09-05 06:30

      Yes, because rural areas are hotbeds of economic activity, and packed with tax payers, right?

      johann.oosthuizen.980 - 2012-09-05 06:32

      paddy.carolan.35 - 2012-09-05 07:27

      The 20 000 rural inhabitants are probably all receiving grants costing us millions already. The tourists are spending money. The rural inhabitants were quite comfortable and survived on subsistence farming. Places which have now been ababdoned because the ANC saw fit to move them into the cities to tilt the vote in their favour. These once proud people are now living in shacks and hovels. The only reason why the present bunch of idiots want to upgrade rural roads is so that they can move more voters into the slums more easily.

      butch.poulter - 2012-09-05 08:30

      Go check the Map Studio of Gauteng and see how many schools are in Soweto, built by who? Bara hospital the biggest in the southern hemisphere built by who and etc etc etc etc etc etc. Get over yourself and stop blaming apartheid for your government incompitance.

      stevie0064 - 2012-09-05 09:03

      @malusi.shumane.7 Roads were designed to accommodate white people? Don't be daft. You at least display a good command of language; please try not to undermine that by harbouring arbitrary prejudices.

  • barend.wasserman - 2012-09-05 06:09

    Yeah... It's because the money is lost through the anc's fraud, corruption and lavish parties..... Typical.

  • deon.jansevanrensburg.58 - 2012-09-05 06:11

    It did not take long for Godwin's Law to be proven accurate once again. Reductio ab Apartheidus. Just how is the theft of hundreds of billions the fault of apartheid? Just how is apathy from the cadres for their fellow country men the fault of apartheid? This is the problem of the ANC and their supporters - admit it, own it, fix it. This has nothing to do with whites

  • tebo.w.ganyani - 2012-09-05 06:20

    if u expect south africa to be on a catagory A class in the world, then u xuld eat humble pie, i mean nothing will ever get better.... I said it b4, n i'l say it again ...just b greatfull 4 few posetives you see, as they are not going to be around 4 much longer.\r\nIts a sick country. No government regime will awake it. self destruction in process.

  • Wouter - 2012-09-05 06:21

    No money? 400 million birthday party! No money? +- 110 million world youth conference! And so on and so forth.......

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-09-05 06:29

    The company fixing the potholes for free were stopped because they weren't paying kickbacks. Zumas alterations cost R65 million. Zumaville costing R2 billion. The R5 billion that just dissapeared. The waste, the parties, the self interest. Government should be there to serve the people instead they are serving themselves. Double and triple helpings for ANC cadres and stuff the country and the poor. Put the ANC back into power and you know exactly what you going to get, more of the same. Put the DA into power and you might just have a different life. To quote the recent comment by JuJu , he was better off under apartheid, at least the boers didn't steal everything.

  • francois.vereen - 2012-09-05 06:34

    ja ne but they have money for renaming streets

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-09-05 06:34

    Zuma and mayors earn 40 times more than miners, can they really eat that much?

  • Gatvol Griet - 2012-09-05 06:35

    NO money for roads but the Anc stole R100million of taxayers money for their private party in Mangaung, where they entertained like Hollywood celebs, boozing away. Newspapers reported on how the country's prostitutes flocked to the city in droves. Scandalous!!!

      FeebleGastro - 2012-09-05 07:55

      The African way. Unfortunately, both voters and votees(!) are too dumb to see the big picture.

  • Lebo.Jeed.Tshepi - 2012-09-05 06:38

    Haah! Tax, traffic fines, drivers licences, car registrations etc. this is the money generated daily where is it all? Oops! I forgot this is SA it all goes down the drain

      sarel.brits - 2012-09-05 06:47

      You misd one, half of the Feul you pay is TAX, where does that go.

      Bavumile Ngunezi - 2012-09-05 07:31

      there is no other department that collect money like transport system where is it?

  • charmaine.paterson1 - 2012-09-05 06:44

    As an example of how to fix the problem, George, how about you accept the quote for R7000 instead of the quote for R100000. Just because the higher quote is from a BEE \company\ doesn't mean you are benefiting anyone except one person.

  • hc12345 - 2012-09-05 06:45

    "The question is what do you prioritise?" Prioritise to stop stealing, that way we will have enough money to fix and maintain everything that is going down the Africa spiral...

  • Vince.York - 2012-09-05 06:50

    Non-one even thinks of the RBillions past, present and again future that the exhorbitantly wasteful and costly TAXI industry demands (and gets PLUS) from the coffers and never returns a cent in tax in any avenue at all. SIMPLY OUT - an anti-social enterprise, upon which a few connected tribal warlords are riding high

  • smith.mbele.7 - 2012-09-05 06:51

    STOP VOITING FOR F@CKING ANC and WHILE WE AT IT, F@CK JACOB and his party. I DNT CARE IF THTS GOOD OR BAD! 'visionless d!ck!!!' Nx!!