ANC MP gets tongue-lashing for foul language

2014-06-19 17:11

Cape Town - Deputy Communications Minister Stella Ndabeni-Abrahams earned herself a tongue-lashing after using a swear word during her speech in the State of the Nation debate on Thursday.

Attacking DA Parliamentary Leader Mmusi Maimane, Ndabeni-Abrahams said: "As a person who had aspirations to become a premier, I expected the highest degree of articulation, but all he did was to be a cry baby lamenting over spilt milk."

"The ANC moered you [beat you up] fair and square in Gauteng and in SA."

Deputy National Assembly Speaker Lechesa Tsenoli interrupted her.

"Please withdraw that. You don't use that language here," Tsenoli warned.

A defiant Ndabeni-Abrahams replied: "Well we do [use that language] in Gauteng and in my country."

She eventually withdrew after Tsenoli again took her to task.

  • Kyle Smith - 2014-06-19 17:18

    Funny how she used an Afrikaans term as a member of the ANC.... #justsaying

      Mike Heyns - 2014-06-19 17:46

      Pieter Mulder must have had a good chuckle on it!!

      Malcolm Nicolson - 2014-06-19 19:35

      Sure, but we English speaking South Africans do use Afrikaans words, (and some others from other languages) in our language, some as slang, some not. How often do we say "pick up truck", I always hear "bakkie"?

      Herman Booysen - 2014-06-19 20:21

      Sorry, but I don't see your point. I am Afrikaans-speaking, and as far as I can see, it has nothing to do with it. So there.

      Ross Jenkins - 2014-06-19 21:31

      I had no idea ANC members were banned from speaking a South African language

  • Andile Sityebi - 2014-06-19 17:19

    Then you call such people honourable? We seem not to understand what honour is and about. I repeat, ever since 2008 that house became a circus and now it is beyond redemption for the next years of these clowns rule.

      Mike Heyns - 2014-06-19 17:49

      Andile @ M-I-RSA: Wait, this is just the appetizer, the main meal is still coming!

      Colin Craig Broadfoot - 2014-06-19 19:11

      Same circus different clowns.

  • Nqabane Dinga - 2014-06-19 17:20

    Big headed and arrogant MPs who lack respect, values and morals.

  • Gavin Harrison - 2014-06-19 17:25

    Common trash our anc MP's. Oh, and Julius too. No respect for parliament and its procedures.

      Herman Booysen - 2014-06-19 20:17

      No details, no facts. Your argument is invalid.

  • Jaco Ehlers - 2014-06-19 17:26

    F... Zuma and his corrupt cabinet

      Mbuti Manopole - 2014-06-19 18:17

      F... U 3

      Herman Booysen - 2014-06-19 20:15

      Voertsek, foul-mouth!

      Ross Jenkins - 2014-06-19 21:34

      Ay, you lack the intelligence to articulate your disgust in a humanly manner...

  • Kgosi Gen Arlington Nchoe - 2014-06-19 17:30


      Herman Booysen - 2014-06-19 20:14


  • tess.boltar - 2014-06-19 17:34

    MPs insult each other, have no respect for parliament. They are there to entertain themselves. Speaker has no control. What a waste of money. Malema is making a fool of the speaker and all of us. Sisulu just as bad as Malema. Is this why we have elections?

      Andile Sityebi - 2014-06-19 17:47

      Then they call themselves honourable members, Malena is showing everyone who took these morons which are an organised crime sindicate seiours their true colours for even the blind to see. Whether you like Julius or not, him and EFF have brought parliament to the spot light.

  • tess.boltar - 2014-06-19 17:38

    Voting what a waste of time and money. Parliament and ministers Are there to enjoy and entertain each other by seeing who can come up with the best insult. The speaker also enjoying the joke. People get the government they deserve.

  • Bettie Nieuwoudt - 2014-06-19 17:40

    Oh really madam! Maybe that is what happens where-ever she founds herself. Think twice it you thought hat Mmusi has been beaten! Surprise awaiting.

      Herman Booysen - 2014-06-19 19:53

      Can I recommend a good English teacher? Your spelling/typing sucks. Come to think about it, your grammar does, too!

  • Tumisang K Mompati - 2014-06-19 17:42

    i like u stella,cute dress too....

      Motlalepula Matshwe - 2014-06-19 17:50

      Besides that word she articulated herself very well.

      Progress Knowles - 2014-06-19 18:17

      So being a straatmate is ok with you. I can only hope you stay away from children.

  • Bastille French - 2014-06-19 17:48

    Now we are talking!!!!

  • Bastille French - 2014-06-19 17:51

    Now we are talking!!!!

  • jtzll - 2014-06-19 17:57


  • Sam Masuku - 2014-06-19 18:04

    Yes, how can you call such a person an honorable?

  • Aubrey Christie - 2014-06-19 18:05

    The story about the "bush" only too true.

  • Alexander Dowding - 2014-06-19 18:08

    The South African Parliament is a laughing stock. Nothing serious gets done there. Just jokes and insults and cheering and other tomfoolery. I feel so disheartened about the state of our "democracy"

      tess.boltar - 2014-06-19 18:33

      I am also disheartened, disgusted, disappointed and dispairing

      Herman Booysen - 2014-06-19 20:09

      I think you mean jeering, not cheering?

      Jurie Nel - 2014-06-20 08:24

      No, Herman, cheering. As in cheering one of your party's speakers.

  • Rofhiwa Ronald - 2014-06-19 18:11

    How old is this woman??

  • renaud.dehainaut - 2014-06-19 18:24

    Deputy communications misnisrer and she can't communicate. CancER style.

  • renaud.dehainaut - 2014-06-19 18:24

    Deputy communications misnisrer and she can't communicate. CancER style.

      Ross Jenkins - 2014-06-19 21:37

      it's either you're too young to understand politics, or you're on the ANC hate train, I strongly believe it's the latter...

  • renaud.dehainaut - 2014-06-19 18:24

    Deputy communications misnisrer and she can't communicate. CancER style.

  • tess.boltar - 2014-06-19 18:31

    Malema and Sisulu cancel each other out. Parliament has to either keep both or get rid of both.

  • Nhlanganiso Faku - 2014-06-19 18:36

    Absolute power,one day is one day.

  • John David Joyce - 2014-06-19 18:37

    what a disgrace the poor member and all she will ever be....disgrace!

  • jane.dawson.165 - 2014-06-19 18:43

    Only a person with an exceptionally limited vocabulary has to resort to using derogatory language

  • Jongizizwe Modecai - 2014-06-19 18:46

    Come on people since when is "moered" a swear word that's south african lingo that means u were beaten up.

      Herman Booysen - 2014-06-19 19:45

      Actually, Jongizizwe, the word is derived from Old Portuguese mauern, from Latin molere (“to grind, to mill”). It actually refers to a violent act of non-consensual sexual intercourse. That having been said, the term has since been absorbed into the SA dialect to mean simply "to give a thrashing to; to beat up". Methinks the Speaker could have been more accommodating in her view of the use of the word in the SA dialect. After all, we all talk like that on the streets, don't we?

      Jurie Nel - 2014-06-20 08:27

      Herman, nice explanation. But really, should the level of speech in Parliament be as low as "street level"?

  • Moggie Mogs - 2014-06-19 18:48

    "Well we do [use that language] in Gauteng and in my country." Where does she live? Wherever it is, please stay there. We don't need gutter-snipes in 'my country'.

  • Nicola Rushin nee Davis - 2014-06-19 18:49

    If there's one thing I really love about this country, it's that we don't bother with being politically correct. Try living overseas for a while and you will start to miss that about SA, honestly. The way people tip-toe around each other and around pertinent issues over there can make you feel well, not ghastly but naar. Dealing with boring, polite, never-say-what-you-mean-or-mean-what-you-say politicians, colleagues and countrymen is ONE thing we don't have to cope with in SA. Over here, when we want to say "moer" we don't say "thrash". We say "MOER"! Or if we are feeling more sensitive, we say "bliksem" :-D

  • Toni-Leigh Luzzi - 2014-06-19 18:53

    Sorry but I don't think "moer" is a foul language at all. A bit of a storm in a tea cup really

  • Talitha Boshoff - 2014-06-19 19:00

    The word "moer" (the womb/literally "mother") is not acceptable language. It is considered crass and certainly does not belong in parliament.

  • Maphoka Mokutle Beloved - 2014-06-19 19:00

    Straat mate

  • Chol Mabeo - 2014-06-19 19:09

    Mirror mirror on the wall. She was expecting a high degree of articulation from Maimane which she herself failed dismally to display in that particular delivery.

  • David Mathe461 - 2014-06-19 19:13

    Was the SONA so boring that MPs saw its debate as a platform to settle their political scores?

  • Paulo Areal - 2014-06-19 19:33

    All class. NOT

  • Herman Booysen - 2014-06-19 20:04

    Honeste, difficile non est. Sicut nos omnes dicimus, etiam in provincia aurea etiam in civitate libera. Puto, comitiae praesedens modum ridendae defecta est.

      Jurie Nel - 2014-06-20 08:29

      Aquila muscas non capet. Gallus in sterquilino plurimum potest.

  • sarah.l.jonas - 2014-06-19 20:36

    It is a pity the minister of communication uses such violent language in a country with so much violence. Ironic really.

  • Ahmed Pahad - 2014-06-19 20:48


  • Ross Jenkins - 2014-06-19 21:27

    Reading this article, I have now learned not to take news articles seriously (especially news24), I watched the video, and the Chair was jokingly rebuking no way was the rebuking anywhere near the title of this article.....

  • Jon Low - 2014-06-20 01:11

    "Please withdraw that. You don't use that language here," Tsenoli warned. That's a standard Speaker's reprimand, not a tongue-lashing.

  • willem.louw.16 - 2014-06-20 07:48

    Highest degree of articulation and then uses a word like moered :-) hypocrite. Perhaps go back and learn real English

  • Nat Howler - 2014-06-20 10:50

    The only half decent political parties you've got in that country of yours are the DA, UDM, NFP, AIC, and ACDP.

  • Jacqui Daane Van Rensburg - 2014-06-20 12:08

    Who said you needed manners to become a minister, deputy or not?.

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