ANC at nobody's mercy, Mantashe says

2012-02-27 21:19

Johannesburg - It was dangerous to assume the ANC was at anyone's mercy, party secretary-general Gwede Mantashe said on Monday.

"When people begin to be bold about what needs to be changed and what should be said in the ANC, it's an exaggeration of the role of interaction of allies," Mantashe said.

He was briefing reporters on the sidelines of the party's national executive committee meeting in Centurion.

The National Union of Metalworkers (Numsa) said at the weekend the ruling party was going against its own policies by not embracing nationalisation. Numsa was one of the proponents of nationalisation and land expropriation without compensation.

The union became the first organised formation to call for President Jacob Zuma and the rest of the African National Congress's leadership to be changed in the party's elective conference, to be held in Bloemfontein in December.

Numsa's deputy general secretary Karl Cloete was quoted by SABC news on Saturday as saying: "They have not been able to drive the implementation of the Polokwane resolutions and therefore we are very clear that we will, in our branches of the ANC, make sure that this current ANC NEC does not return."

He was referring to the ANC's last elective conference, held in Polokwane in 2007, at which Zuma was elected party president.

Mantashe described this as "a dangerous and an adventurous position" by Numsa.

"I think we need to make an appeal to everybody to never make that dangerous assumption that it's them who exist, and the ANC is at the mercy of everybody else," he said.

"It doesn't work that way. There is no delegation in the contract of the ANC called a Numsa delegation. There is no such a delegation at the ANC elective conference."

Mantashe said the union would be invited as a delegation of observers within the Congress of SA Trade Unions. He said unions, league and alliance members would constitute only 10 percent of the delegation in Bloemfontein.

Ninety percent of delegates would be ANC branch members and would discuss and amend policies and elect leaders.

"Observers can sneak in at night, talk to that and that, but if they are not members of the ANC that influence is limited to lobbying."

Numsa had since backtracked on its statement, saying it had not taken any vote of confidence against the ANC's current leadership.

On Sunday, Numsa general secretary Irvin Jim said the union would use the party's democratic processes, ahead of the ANC elective conference, to ensure that leaders who represented the interests of the working class were pushed through party structures.

Mantashe said the thinking behind changing the character of the ANC was nothing but a myth.

"Don't elevate a myth of takeover of the ANC into a reality."

He said ANC branches were allowed to discuss and assess the performance of leaders. However, nominations would only be opened in October.

"Discussions are not just banned. We talk about it," said Mantashe, adding that Numsa was merely voicing an opinion.

He said union members, who were also card-carrying members of the ANC, would only speak as ANC members in Bloemfontein.

  • Kobus - 2012-02-27 21:34

    It wis dangerous .............. WTF is "wis" ? News24, you guys are scary!

      Eduard - 2012-02-27 23:01

      Numsa if it aint broken, dont fix it...fix things like crime, corruption, leadership, education, health care, infrastructure ..... mines are actually bringing money into the country

      Max - 2012-02-28 05:28

      The ANC as an organization with a public image is currently solely at the mercy of the thugs that are in control of it, I assume he is referring to other thugs that want to take it over.

      Scebberish - 2012-02-28 05:49

      "Mantashe said the thinking behind changing the character of the ANC was nothing but a myth." May as well start packing your bags then..............

  • bernpm - 2012-02-27 21:40

    "Mantashe said the union would be invited as a delegation of observers within the Congress of SA Trade Unions. He said unions, league and alliance members would constitute only 10 percent of the delegation in Bloemfontein." Does that mean that "unions, league and alliance members" are just kept on board for the voting fodder they bring in?? Sounds like time for a split and unions to consider battling on their own.

  • Morne - 2012-02-27 21:41

    Seems like everybody is taking a shot at the ANC and when it backfires, they backtrack from their statements. Numsa, an opinion is like an a$$h01e, everybody has one.

  • Johan - 2012-02-27 21:46

    My fellow "democratic thinking" persons. The time has come, to realise there are but one of two oprions. 1) take up the firearm, and fight what si democratically and constitutionally yours 2) take your bags and your things and leave because whatever choise you make.... For any person of "other colour" in SA, the future is "un rosy"...... Do what you must, for you and your children.... NOW

      Marion - 2012-02-28 07:33

      @Johan - 'democratic thinking' persons, who no doubt love our country, are unlikely to take up arms and destroy SA. The best way to effect change is from within the country.

      Jan - 2012-02-28 08:51

      @ Johan, were you not the one who complaint about the "liberal" media in Europe hearing all those bad stories about SA and that we in SA kill our own international image? Well, listen to yourself now and be your own judge on how ignorant you sound. @ Marion, well said!

  • Glyn - 2012-02-27 21:50

    Watch out Gwede! The dogs you bred are about to bit the hand that feeds them! My advice is to change the labour laws to limit the power of unions and cosatu. They are not in charge of this country!

      alansmartSnr - 2012-02-28 02:19

      @ Glyn.. Thats the most intelligent comment I have read for a long time. England in the 80's were just about run by the unions. Enter Magereth Thatcher and she took them on. Coal Mines, British Railways, Postal workers and a slew of other Unions. She refused to budge. Their was chaos for a few months and once the people started suffering, starving,having their cars and houses repossesed, they came crawling back ... and they have never had a strike since. That's what should happen here. I applaud Impalas stand on firing 17,000 bodies and Trans net or firing their drivers..Relax the labour laws and save our country

  • AyGeewils - 2012-02-27 21:54

    Whatever way you read this it is pretty wild stuff - do I smell fried bananas? It all seems so uncivilised and quite frankly I fear for this country when all these uncouth political maniacs start weilding pangas!

      AyGeewils - 2012-02-27 21:56

      '...dangerous to assume the ANC was at anyone's mercy ...' What is that suppose to imply?

  • Piet - 2012-02-27 21:57

    Clearly they are not the party for the people anymore...Cadres and cadres only please

      Juan - 2012-02-28 01:33

      With about 40% of youth unemployed, and never likely to find work, the ANC might very well become the party of the people if NUMSA get it's way. I fear that there is a ever depening resentment of those living in poverty towards "the haves". I fear for South Africa's future.

  • Jeremy - 2012-02-27 22:00

    But the country is at the mercy of the ANC estors. When do you think they will inform the public of how they will sanction Malema? Not of of course that it is any of our business, being mere citizens of ANCIAland.

  • Sariena - 2012-02-27 22:28

    The ANC is at the mercy of it's voters.No voters,no ANC......Hahahahaha

  • Dennis - 2012-02-27 22:41

    Mantashe,when too much power goes to your head it is known as 'ELECTRO CONVULSIVE THERAPY' it is common that you suffer temporary memory loss after the treatment. I hope you still remember who put you on that electric chair and who has the button on his finger.

      Tanie - 2012-02-28 12:18

      you keep showing plate numbers and pictures of civilians on line without their consent,jy saal bars, and pay with every penny you have including your under pants you fnbigot.

  • Adam - 2012-02-28 03:34

    The anc is a struggle party. They are struggling to keep their voters. They are struggling to find skills. They are struggling to govern. Good bye anc, good riddance..

  • Scebberish - 2012-02-28 05:46


  • Athoko Shasha - 2012-02-28 06:42

    Sariena i 100% agree with u de ANC has been in power for so long they have forgtten that its de pple dat put it in power in de 1st place.

  • SJ - 2012-02-28 07:20

    Hopefully they rip themselves apart into lots of smaller parties that can be defeated at the polls. Personally, I think the ANC should be charged as a criminal organization and then removed from any participation in RSA politics. The charge: Theft, raketeering, corruption etc to the tune of R20billion+ for 2011 and I am sure other charged could be brought for other years as well.

  • Marion - 2012-02-28 07:24

    Now I understand why motor-mouth Malema is going to address the Implats workers today. Whether he is there as 'stirrer' or 'saviour' it does not auger well for South Africa.

  • Riaan - 2012-02-28 07:32

    BOOM!!!! The ANC implode is here

  • CALAMITYSA - 2012-02-28 07:45

    Karl Cloete sounds like an agent!! An agent for Julius AGAINST Zuma? Now where do we go. The DA likes these noises. And Implats can budget for double the R400m loss after today's visit by the future leader.

  • Winifred - 2012-02-28 08:50

    If the ANC wants to survive they have build a firm platform. They have already let the ANCYL dictate to them now the UNIONS are doing the same thing. They need to put their house in order smartly if they want to survive, they are going to war on their hands. They cant please everybody but they need to take a firm stance and tell me who will do this......time is running out and the problems are mounting.

  • Mike - 2012-02-28 09:12

    I can fortell the future.. Mines will be nationalised, after a year or two they all bankrupt, miners are running around rioting, looting and killing as they havent been paid(which will be the white mans fault of course), the anc realise they have no business sense and cant run mines so its sold to the Chinese and instead of the money going to the people it will fill the coffers of high ranking government officials, a couple months later there will be a corruption story about mines but as everything else in that regard it gets brushed under a rug. And apartheid and white man will be blamed again.

  • Jacqui - 2012-02-28 10:18

    They are at the mercy of the voters but haven't woken up to the fact yet.

  • J-Man - 2012-02-28 12:08

    Yeahh...except at your own...

  • boichoko.sechogela - 2012-02-29 04:06

    Mantashe must be very careful,numsa members are the ANC members from the respective ANC branches and are going to be part of ANC delegation at ANC elective conference. He must not underestimate the voices of the working class.

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