ANC branch battles to nominate Zuma

2012-10-21 07:23

Durban - The party nomination of President Jacob Zuma in the ANC branch of his home village of Nkandla took 10 hours due to a lack of a quorum, according to a media report.

While the members were in support of Zuma they could not officially nominate him as ANC president due to only 100 of the branch's 494 members being present by lunch time at the nomination meeting, the Sunday Times reported.

KwaZulu-Natal North Coast regional secretary Sboniso Xulu told the branch members present that the meeting would not be cancelled due to concerns that it would reflect badly on Zuma.

"We are willing to stay here until midnight if we have to. This is President Zuma's home. If this branch fails to meet, that will be all over the newspapers," Xulu told the members.

He appealed for those present to help get absent members to the meeting.

Minibuses, taxis, bakkies and cars were deployed to collect missing branch members.

The paper reported that the SUV of Nkandla mayor Zandile Mncadi-Mpanza was also drafted into the effort.

It was only at 20:15, 10 hours after the meeting began, that a quorum of 248 members was reached.

  • khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-21 07:31

    Can someone give the clueless freaking dictator an iron tipped boot on his ass!

      phillip.marchant.52 - 2012-10-21 09:11

      Ndlovuvincent, it is entirely your sentiment that will forever enable disingenuous leaders to hold South Africa hostage. By your own admission ("I wish I could leave the ANC"), it is clear that South Africa desperately needs a change of government, however those in power do not fear the ballot box, because of the unnatural forgiving nature of the many who share your sentiments. Do you know that hundreds of children die every day from infinitely preventable cause, because corruption has closed the rural clinic, or that there are no medicines in state hospitals, or even doctors to administer them? With an attitude that says my freedom to vote is based on skin colour alone, it makes me complicit in these murders, I'm afraid. I become the one who is accountable to the countless grieving mothers, who have helplessly watched their child's life ebb away, because of a bout of diarrhoea, or because they were born with a minor heart ailment, requiring a simple surgical procedure. The time for independent thinkers is now; these are called upon to bury their racial ego's, and to think further than themselves. Whatever you may say, as a South African I AM YOUR FAMILY - your father, brother and sister, and I am asking you NOW to reclaim your mind from those who have stolen it by feeding into your prejudice, for selfish gain. MY heroes have died so that you may have your own mind - go and get it back, and discover what you can do with it.

      mark.schulz.796 - 2012-10-21 09:49

      @vincent - Arguments from authority are worthless. Special pleas are worthless. African this, unAfrican that - why don't you think for yourself for once. How awful it must be to be shackled by imaginary chains of Africanness wrapped around your mind, constricting free thought. Jacob Zuma is an objectively bad ruler in terms of both his policies and character.

      ndlovuvincent - 2012-10-21 10:23

      To all who have given their response,thank u very I am humbled by your thinking.I find it hard to believe u because u are whites,u cannot tell me about african culture.I am not the member of Youth League and will never support their misconduct and if u check my previous comments,I have never supported them.My concern is that my brother I have been talking to has never replied,but white people are busy trying to feed me with their sh***t.Stop responding to me as your responses are from the other side of the town.I am sure you will happy as I draw a race card.

      johann.enslin.9 - 2012-10-21 10:28

      @ ndlovu, you post on a public for and then chastise somebody for making a comment? It's un-african to vote because nobody ever chose a leader. Times are changing.

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-21 10:31

      My brother Vincent, naturaly i am a very respecting person an a very patriotic african. If you have followed my comments ul knw i have defended this idiot for a very long time, and what has he done? Nothing! Does he respect himself? Not a chance, why am i expected to keep on respecting this man? He just kills me by acting dumb whenever he is questioned by the extravagance @ which he characterisise his government, he is either an idiot or he thinks we are all idiots, i know our culture so very well, but with him it fails, everytime. The ANC bigchaps does not want him for a second term becouse they think he is good or something but becouse they know under him they have a better chance of screwing us even much further, they have not a single best interest for u n i, they dont care a bit if sa is going under or over, so becouse of my africaness am i expected to just follow them?

      J.A.Rademan - 2012-10-21 11:09

      @ndlovuvincent - Respect is earned.... in any culture. Your brother?? are you sure Zuma is not your PAPA.

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-10-21 13:00

      ndlovuvincent, if you want people to stop replying to you, get of this forum. This is a open public forum where members openly debate. You cannot have a discussion with one person on this forum, if you post, expect a response, otherwise I encourage you and your good for nothing youth league to create their own forum and communicate there. Understand, this is how free speech works. Clearly, you have not reached the upper echeleons of Maslows Hierachy yet, you are still at the bottom and want to flood these pages with your insults, especially to intellectuals. You can be brainwashed and fooled, but on this forum, many are independent intellectuals, so if you want to participate, respect others who are on here too. By the way, we are ALL African!

      phillip.marchant.52 - 2012-10-21 14:17

      Ndlovuvincent, how better way to emphasise the importance of doing what I suggested, than if you do it yourself. First you "wish you could leave the ANC", but can't because you have been told that your culture prevents it, then you say you don't support the ANCYL. Again, you have been told that this party-wing operate autonomously, and so you believe it. In order to filter the information that one is fed, so that one can discern whether one is being duped, a mind is needed. Clearly you have somewhere in the past willingly unavailed yourself of this facility, and sadly you have not heeded my advice on how to rectify such an untenable situation. Ironically this white man appears to know more about African culture than you do. It is indeed rich and diverse, but it is not the one that says as a married man I am free to sleep with my girlfriend anytime I want, no matter how hurtful to my wife, who gives her very soul for me. It is not the one that says I can do despicable things to cure myself of disease, no matter how sick and brutal, or against who. It is also not the one that says I should never criticise my elder, no matter what kind of a bar-steward be he. Any with two cells still arking will know this, but sadly all too many choose to mask the much deeper human condition of prejudice and ignorant racism (the very thing your 'liberation' movement purportedly fought against), behind the convenient veil of 'culture'. Don't make your children pay the price for yours.

      ndlovuvincent - 2012-10-21 14:21

      @tasmee.hylkema-My friend,I understand what u are saying but u are also doing excactly what your friends are doing.For u to tell me I should leave the forum,is out of line.Zuma is not my father and I am not a fan of his,plse check my previous comments.It does not bother whether these people are independent intellectualls or not,I am not one of them.I am a Youth league member and will never be.My brother has responded very well to me,and I was happy with his response.U can your use big words in english'Malinowsky Hierachy needs' it does not affect me as u are an intellectual and I am not.Participating on this could satisfy one of my needs but it might not be a priority need.U can call me a racists but I am not a person who just accepts anything even if it does not meet my personnal requirements.This is not a personnal attack on u my friend.

      philemon.ndlovu.5 - 2012-10-21 16:32

      ndlovu, you state that you are not a fan of Zuma, but yet you will still support him by voting for him. That will make you a fan of him. Please clarify as I am confused.

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-10-22 14:47

      @ndlovuvincent. Understand this, no friend of the ANC Youth League is my friend. got it? If you wish to participate on this forum, you have no right to tell others not to respond to you, got it?

  • warren.slater.353 - 2012-10-21 07:32

    Can't blame them, the turnout was better than most days in parliament (even counting the snoozers)

      lownabester - 2012-10-21 08:24

      You nailed it, Gollum.

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-21 09:25

      They were all at Kingspark watching the Sharks booking their place in the final.

  • shades.wanza - 2012-10-21 07:40

    ai. The ANC

  • Gatvol Griet - 2012-10-21 07:45

    They really love their dictator, showing up in their 'masses' (not) to nominate him.

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-21 09:12

      @Griet. David Kramer's "Vaal ou Pontiac" was noticed in the vicinity, complete with "Kentucky T-shirt". Google the lyrics ...

  • punungwe - 2012-10-21 07:49

    Careful thinking is needed here. KZN is now said to be the largest ANC province virtually ensuring his re-election. Then at a meating of a branch with supposed 494 members only 100 turn up. Even after 10 hours of searching only another 148 can be found. And there is no guarantee that those who were hunted for and eventually brought to the meeting are actually members of the branch. There is a chance they have been bused in from other branches. Surely this makes good feeding ground for those who may want to claim that KZN membership numbers are padded with ghost members. The ANC membership register is starting to look like the Zimbabwe voters roll. Zanu-PF is regularly accused of busing in supporters to beef up numbers in some areas.

      ant.duke - 2012-10-21 08:16

      Let's face it. He can do whatever he wants. Legally or not. Fairly or not. He tramples his will on us and our courts have to hear the citizens' complaints months or years later when he has got away with it anyway.

      altusvanzyl - 2012-10-21 09:48

      True that. You don't have meetings. You have MEATings. Lol.

  • Gatvol Griet - 2012-10-21 07:50

    \Dey gotta be player-haters, all jealous coz he's spent R247million pimpin his crib an' dey gotta live in mud-huts an' stuff... damn dese haters!!!

  • mbambo.lindelani - 2012-10-21 07:53

    I am the BEC member of that branch. You report is true. It took us so long. We have the dynamic of a biggest branch situated in the vast remote area where people can not walk to the centre. They are poor too, they don't have cars or even afford paying transport. \r\n\r\nAs for servicing them we usually meet on their VD's. On such meeting we all had to be there. \r\n\r\nIts incorrect to say we couldn't nominate the Top Six. We did that, and even nominated the members of the NEC. Lastly we were to nominate the delegates to Mangaung it also happened. \r\n\r\nThe name of the Branch is Msholozi Branch, Wrad 14, Nkandla Municipality

      desmond.drake.1 - 2012-10-21 08:10

      Judging by your comment you seem about as inteligent as Zuma. Must be a regional thing.

      DikgosiThokoane - 2012-10-21 08:10

      But it took u 10 hours..... If what u saying is true about transport challenges, why was a plan not made in advance to ensure that people get there without hassles n on time? Oh wait, u r the ANC, u can't plan or execute anything right the first time.

      parys.fotograaf - 2012-10-21 08:13

      If your branch and people feel that he is the best leader you can have, I feel sorry for you. He is the worst this country has ever seen and you do no-one any favours. Please for your sake and that of the children of the future, do not make this mistake, yet again.

      lownabester - 2012-10-21 08:26

      Why not bus them in, is that not what you do with elections, or offer them some Kentucky, You not doing your job. I vote DA and we dont have that problem.

      fussed.anderson - 2012-10-21 08:46

      Then why,did you not shake the family tree, they would have all fallen out in 10 minuits

      FeebleGastro - 2012-10-21 11:43

      "They are poor too, they don't have cars or even afford paying transport." But they don't mind him spending R250 million of "their" money on his private residence. God help Africa...

      andrez.kolesky - 2012-10-21 12:38

      If I were you I wouldn't put that on my CV.

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-10-21 13:15

      Shame, so all those poor people are happy for him to live in luxury, with his many wives, private jets, and multimillion rand renovations with their tax money. Well personally, they all deserve him then! As long as you pledge loyalty based on tribal affiliations and blind following to the ANC, the poor will suffer more. Tell me why, after all these years in power, are these people still so poor, they cannot afford to even pay for transport?

      shaun.hillary - 2012-10-21 21:28

      @Tasmee... They dont pay tax. They are poor (as stated by mbambo.lindelani). The people who do pay tax... its meant to help these poor individuals as well as improve our country, but it all goes into that luxurious complex up on the hillside above them and any other luxurious things our current government deems worthy for themselves not the people.

  • fezile.somraba - 2012-10-21 08:05

    it is very clear nw that in kzn there r ghost members hw they can battle 2 make a quorum 2 elect the person whom they claim is enjoying a lot of support in his own town (nkandla).there is something fish here,it is also reported that those ppl who had managed 2 attend after searching 4 abt ten hours were not the members of the anc,the forces of change must go and sit @ the branches 2 ensure that these political mongers don't steal the forces of chane viva,viva sello julious malema viva.

  • aroka.murombe - 2012-10-21 08:07

    Kazi mthethwa u sound so stupid... I'm black and an anc member but please refrain from your words da has nothing to do with zuma failing....

      lindani.zulu2 - 2012-10-21 08:18

      It has nothing to do with it yes but DA makes sure that'show everyone sees the ANC.. That's forever gonna be the case...

      Brad - 2012-10-21 10:16

      @lindani. Why is that a problem? That's what opposition parties are SUPPOSED to do. You really have no clue about democracy, do you??

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-10-21 13:21

      lindani.zulu2. The job of the official opposition party is exactly that! To keep the ruling party exposed, irrespective of who is in government. Bet you learnt something today? In other words THE DA IS DOING THEIR JOBS! Anyway, can you perhaps explain to us where the DA hS has interefered here. Do you have proof that the information has been supplied by the DA. You know what they say about assumption...?

  • ant.duke - 2012-10-21 08:09

    Democracy at vote for all...and the rest for ME...

  • nino.diana.12 - 2012-10-21 08:10

    African time ....... Boring

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-21 11:29

      Ndia, kula? You are being idiotic now!

  • parys.fotograaf - 2012-10-21 08:11

    Maybe a message that he is not wanted?

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-10-21 08:13

    Wow. 148 reluctant members force-fed polony sandwiches!

      lownabester - 2012-10-21 08:29

      Maybe Kentucky would have got them there on time??

      sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-10-21 12:23

      You two surely haven't heard:NOWADAYS they enjoy

  • Peabo Siphelele Mkhize - 2012-10-21 08:17

    I cant wait for the national elections in 2014, some people will be so surprised.

      joe.smit.549 - 2012-10-21 08:36

      I beg to be surprised. Somehow, I don't think I will be!

      aroka.murombe - 2012-10-21 09:01

      I won't be surprised since you are stupid you going to vote for zuma so what is it to be surprised at?

      joe.smit.549 - 2012-10-21 09:28

      @aroka. And you are a racist.

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-10-21 13:24

      Peabo, I honestly hope we will be surprised, with a change from what we have now!

  • bongani.nsele.58 - 2012-10-21 08:19

    news24 what did this president have for breakfast, did he pay for it? or i forgot it was the taxpayers money again...can this news24 be taken seriously

      Steven Trollip - 2012-10-21 08:22


  • Steven Trollip - 2012-10-21 08:20

    africa time

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-10-21 11:27

      Troll, what has africa got to do with this?

  • peter.mokoena.31 - 2012-10-21 08:31

    Zumaville/ Nkandlagate, one wonders how were these memebers recruited if they don't even know about the meetings. Couldn't they really be interested seeing that R230 million is about to hit towa, unless perhaps theyare ghost.

  • Craig De Lange - 2012-10-21 08:40

    Having worked with blacks for a few years and getting to know them, they are too trusting at times.

      peter.g.sibuyi - 2012-10-21 09:09

      WTF u on about, idiot?

  • mbambo.shi - 2012-10-21 08:57

    News24 always mention or attach Zuma \Chief Parasite\, simple because he's Spear-Heading the corruption, tribalism and parasitic relationship within our national fiscas. Ooops!!!, did I said SPEAR, hope my comment don't get classified by the film baord of South Africa. NXAAAAA!!!!!!!!.

  • gmungomezi - 2012-10-21 09:10

    This is pathetic reporting by News24.Yes the president has some serious issues to account for but to have the media stooping this low is not on.

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-10-21 13:27

      Well, the media are still many many levels above the lows of Zipper Zuma!

  • gmungomezi - 2012-10-21 09:11

    This is pathetic reporting by News24.Yes the president has some serious issues to account for but to have the media stooping this low is not on.

  • muzi.mbokane - 2012-10-21 09:13


  • civil.moabi - 2012-10-21 09:19

    up the bucs the ghost

  • peter.g.sibuyi - 2012-10-21 09:20

    Oh Lord I pray that Zuma must not win in mangaung, if he does he must voluteerly resign as president. Otherwise DA will be taking us to an old apartheid era in 2014. Amen

      rgroenewald1 - 2012-10-21 09:37

      oh my dear young man is been almost 19 years since aparheid, the DA will never bring this back move on there is White And other races standing together to make South Africa better I am 24 and I dont care Who runs the country but this racist remarks must be stoped if a water pipe burst dont blame it on apartheid blame it on poor service delivery who is in charge the ANC not the NP so what you are saying is that you hate whites and you can't build a nation with them well look at ZIM does that make sence to you or in the long run we will leave S.A. because there is always a saying that this is your land? not it's God's land and we as humans are killing each other over race really grow up and work together.

      toofaan.monsoon - 2012-10-21 09:55

      Think Peter. Just think. Apartheid will never come back like it was before. The reverse form of apartheid is here already though. Zuma is a terrible leader, but is still better than what will follow him - if you don't believe that just watch and see Mothlanthle's true colours. Zuma must win in Mangaung just to keep the peace. 2014 is when we need people to vote for real change.

      rouen.heiberg - 2012-10-21 10:05

      Please explain how you made that ridiculous conclusion. Either you are an idiot or you listen to Julius who isn't exactly known for his brainpower either. The DA leadership is full of black and coloured people, so how can they function under apartheid? The consititution prevents something like apartheid from being implemented again and the only way to change it is a 2/3 majority which the DA won't get. So stop listening to uneducated idiots, look at the great audits the DA gets in Western Cape and make an informed decision for yourself.

  • masixolentunguntwana.rangerover - 2012-10-21 09:40

    KZN is one of the ANC strong hold so it was not going to sound good to anyone when the branch of comrade president Jacob Zuma can't reach the quorum. That was not a new thing anyway in any ANC branch its not easy to reach quorum it usually takes 2 hours or 3 hours to reach a quorum depending on which day of the week is that meeting scheduled for. \r\n\r\nThe ANC BGM for nominating leadership just like this of Mangaung conference is critical and it needs the sober people who know exactly what they want to see in the ANC future not just people who will attend the BGM with small papers written the names of people desired by the branch leadership.\r\n\r\nThis process of nominating leaders causes troubles and factions in the branches, regions and up to the national level. Jacob Zuma's branch is not special it reflects the proper challenge that is facing all the all the ANC branches in the entire country and I am so glad to hear that it made the quorum after 10 hours because some comrades are not aware of that but today they will know it.\r\n\r\n\r\nAyta Second term ayata via Zumasxoleberry official supporter of Zumantashe

  • rouen.heiberg - 2012-10-21 09:40

    There probably wasn't free food.

  • sonkitla.sonki - 2012-10-21 10:00

    How possible,after being told that KZN ANC membership has gone up,unless if it is ghost membership

      sihlangu.hokweni - 2012-10-21 11:57

      Exactly the reason why both Gwede Mantashe

  • magomarele - 2012-10-21 10:14

    what a joke. The idiots used municipal resources to drive around the village and collect each other for a meeting. All they care about is 2 nominate Zuma and nothing else. If they can't even afford 2 meet in time, how can they even think of running the country?

  • sipho.masilela.395 - 2012-10-21 10:18

    Ziyohamba izinsizwa, kuyosala izibongo(MANDELA,MBEKI we r proud of u guys)

      lums.zindela - 2012-10-21 12:36

      Aw yisho uliphinde

      lums.zindela - 2012-10-21 12:43

      Yisho uliphinde, but Hy Sipho i remix yalesi sisho ithi: Ziyohamba izinsizwa kuyosala izibotho.

  • Brad - 2012-10-21 10:20

    Two months to go people! I'm hoping for a Zuma win! Best possible result for the DA.

  • jacob.mphatswe - 2012-10-21 10:24

    Most ANC branches have taken this unfortunate shape,the question remains who makes and take decision in weak and failing branches such as these.This presents the epitome of the collective leadership its absence.

  • sello.r.molefe - 2012-10-21 10:37

    Corrupt leaders will do anythin to retain power..

  • thabo.moletsane.31 - 2012-10-21 10:46

    Zuma this and Zuma that! Who's Zuma? Do I know him? Does he know me? Boring aaaaggg.....

  • flysouth - 2012-10-21 10:46

    What kind of democratic process is this? When a quorum of members cannot be gathered for a meeting and then 10 hours are spent 'press-ganging' them into attending so that they can be made to vote for Zuma and people call this a 'democratic internal process of the ANC', then the ANC is making a joke of democracy, replacing it with totalitarianism and coercion. The reality is clear however - the ANC rank and file do not support Zuma not even in his home village.

      tasmee.hylkema - 2012-10-21 13:43

      Yes, that about says it all!

  • jacqui.millin - 2012-10-21 10:48

    Would you vote for a leader that lives in a house worth millions and you must live in a shack?

  • anele.mveku - 2012-10-21 11:08

    Why don't I believe the whole content of this article? I feel like there is some missing details as to why there were only 100 members,the headline or its contents suggests that the people of this branch dnt want Zuma and I dnt believe that is the case. I have learnd not to believe evrythng I read.

  • mxeki.maduvula - 2012-10-21 11:34

    Let zuma get re-elected, maybe the ANC would kiss the union buildings good bye and give other parties a chance to govern! If ANC members were politically oriented they would see that their puppet has hugely lost our support, and that for him to emerge victorious in the general elections he will need us. N.B. The branch members wont make zuma get re-elected by themselves cos they dont make even make a drop of water out of the ocean.

  • joe.ndlovu.16 - 2012-10-21 11:37

    They just shows even pple of zumaville they are tired of this man lol

  • sabzxatoto - 2012-10-21 11:57

    Wasn't it suposed to be a quick quick process,cos they have the U can fool yourself but u cant fool the masses! Down with this brutal corupt self enrichment scheme!

  • harold.parsons.37 - 2012-10-21 12:23

    This says much for the kind of service delivery we can expect in the next ZUMA period. Even his home constituency are a bunch of useless people who cant put a quarum together.

  • eugine.bouwer - 2012-10-21 13:28

    Its only because you used mshiniwam(ak 47) song to get there(2 be president) now shoot yourself,the same way u get in is the same way u go out chief

      mngomantuthuko - 2012-10-21 22:00

      Only 1 branch had some difficulties to form a quorum and now is a big issue! It happened before and it will happen in future again, if u r an ANC card carrying member you will know this unless you're a Cope or IFP where there's no freedom of expression only the party leader can decide on members behalf! People(media) are so obsessed to Msholozi in such a manner they can't afford to sell their newspapers without mentioning his name, a true ANC member will never go media to challenge the ANC

  • Sakhile Maphumulo - 2012-10-21 14:11

    There is nothing new about comrades struggling to form a quorum. Eventually people come & the meeting carries on.

  • Hyacynths - 2012-10-21 14:18

    What an ugly buggar he is!!!

  • jason.marshall.1804 - 2012-10-21 14:36

    Is the best the ANC can offer? How useless must the rest of them be!!

  • piet.snot.77964 - 2012-10-21 14:47

    The bottom line is that these 'members' are the lot who are voting as to who should lead our country - they then I understand send one person to the 'big party' at Manguang - I question what qualifications these do these people ( apparently there are some 4500 of them) have to vote in what should be the best person to lead our country . Why do we not have a vote - be it only for the ruling party nominated candidates - which includes ALL registered voters in the country - we may then see how popular Zuma is? To save costs this could be done at the same time when the National Elections are held .

  • thembinkosi.jozie - 2012-10-21 15:10

    It's ghost members

  • zahierm - 2012-10-21 16:50

    Disorganised! Can the state of our country's leadership be any surprise? The general electorate should be chosing the president!

  • eugine.bouwer - 2012-10-21 17:45

    Ur a weapon of mass destruction sir,mass don't need u anymore,we thought we voted anc not knowing we were voting u,now out you go

  • catherine.l.vanzyl - 2012-10-21 17:46

    WE don’t have a reliable government we only have a reliable PUBLIC PROTECTOR our new FUTURE government SUPPORT now our new government the PUBLIC PROTECTOR THULI MANDOSELA FOR PRESIDENT…VOTE HER IN AT MANGUANG!!!

  • alwyn.vantonder - 2012-10-21 19:43

    What a laugh! By NOW mr. zero tolerance should KNOW already that the ANC is not really behind him anymore.. Looks like they're kicking him out just like Malema.. We're watching the new Survivor South Africa! Maybe Zuma should do a new remake of the Destiny's Child song, "i'm a survivior".. Maybe that will help the trash president to get re-elected.. None the less, the writing is on the wall for the ANC! The sickness of the ANC is eating itself up, from the inside out!