ANC calls for more women as leaders

2012-03-08 20:30

Johannesburg - Women should play leadership roles in the affairs of nations and the communities around them, the ANC said on Thursday.

"As the ANC, we believe the time has come when women should not only occupy their position in society," African National Congress spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said in a statement.

The ruling party was paying tribute to women on International Women's Day.

"In celebrating this day, we would like to pay tribute to the gallant women of South Africa who despite the pressures of triple oppression... managed to steadfastly confront issues that relegated them to second-class citizens and deprived them of their place in society," he said.

Mthembu mentioned the likes of Lillian Ngoyi, Albertina Sisulu, Ruth First and Amina Chacalia. Gender equality needed to remain a focal point in South Africa, he said.

  • Francois - 2012-03-08 20:43

    Let us start off with banning polygamy - no more more wives for Zuma and Goodwill so that all women can be treated in their homes as their husband's equal. Then can we please have Angie Motshekga gaurding the Zim border to influece the relationship between Zim and SA as she is complete ruining the chances all the young in townships have of breaking out of poverty. Then can we please also get honourale mentioning of people like Margeret Thatcher who not only changed her country, but also the world. Vavi may not like her, but is her destruction of communism was part of the key that led to the unbanning of the ANC. Then can Nathi please investigate all the cases of statutory rape without fear or favour specifically the fear of loosing the rural chief driven vote? Or otherwise, put your rhetoric there with the fact the the Gripens will all fly and the submarines are all seaworthy. Nobody whose vote you cannot buy with a food hamper believes you.

      Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-03-08 21:08

      polygamy came longway from Abraham,Isaac and Jacob and dnt 4get king Solomon had 2000wifes, kno this MR Francios ratio is one is to ten between men and women, and take your bible now open Isaih 4 verse 1 (state one man wik mary seven wifes)

      Makatikamusona - 2012-03-08 21:18

      Why ban polygamy because either way people are having polygamous relationship whether legal or not, as long as they are not forced I don't see the problem. Maybe forcing only the president to have one wife since she is supported by the state and we want to have the President as the first citizen and his wife as the first lady, but for individual I don't see anything wrong as long as they can support their children. And @Francois since the statistics proved that we have more women than men, where do you expect other women to find some love from?

      Francois - 2012-03-08 21:45

      Very interesting comment Eric! In the time of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob there was little or no democracy. It was a patriachal society in which women had no rights and in the time of the Old Testament there were a lot of other traditions and pracices that are not done anymore today like mmmm democracy! King Solomon had 1000 wiVES, (get that spell checker working) and God punished him for the fact that he allowed those wiVES to lead him into the worship of idols. Thus to cut to the chase - if you still ride a camel to work and do not use electricity (you must have one of those donkey driven PCs), then you can lay claim to a worthy counter argument. The fact is that polygamy is banned by all the major Christian denominations and added to that, if you want to treat women as equal, you cannot put them in a situation where they need to compete for a no 1 spot which should be theirs by their marital status alone.

      Francois - 2012-03-08 21:52

      Then onto makatika's comment: Not only men have polygamous relationships in SA, but women as well and that is one of the major causes of the spread of HIV - the fact that both genders do it. I wonder however how Zuma will feel if his third wife will marry a second husband? Why is polygamous marriages usually done by one man as the husband to more than one woman? The ration of women to men is approx 51 - 49, thus allowing polygamy and not to discriminate against women, thus to allow them to have more than one husband will leave this almost delicate balance more distorted that will leave more women in search of someone to love (We will also need to find Queen someone to love). The fact is that the majority of men in these polygamous marriages cannot support their wives, it is simply shown in the child grants and poverty grants government dishes out - thus we in fact agree. Let us stop the polygamous marriages of men - ie one man one woman one lifetime.

      Makatikamusona - 2012-03-08 21:53

      @Francois just because you are a Christian that does not make us all Christians. And it is practically impossible for a man to have 1000 wives,it basically means all women were his as I believe the world population was still very low at that time. Did he marry them and that means he married a wife almost every day for 3 years. impossible

      Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-03-08 22:02

      Mr Francios i disagree with both your statement,u agree that evry command writen in bible is from GOD nt writter of those verse like matheus,so nothng will ever change inside bible coz bible its not constitution were you can change it evrytime,so follow evrythng there,and if you say there was no democracy by then u mean God was obressing women ?with Isaih 4 verse 1

      Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-03-08 22:07

      and the issue of HIV with polygamy,lets say negative man marrys 7 negative women how wil HIV formed there?

      Francois - 2012-03-08 22:18

      Makatika, certainly does the fact that I am a Christian not make you one in the very same way that I may have a good general knowledge does not necessarily give you a good one and the fact that I can spell most words does not make Eric good at English spelling. The point of this discussion is that the government blabs about women's rights in the very same way that they blab about non - racsism. It does not happen, but if government's blabbing makes them feel good about themselves, they can be my guest. I and probably 80% of the population think that polygamy is one of the most oppressive systems to women and no Eric, God did not do the oppression, mankind did. Now we can have the religious discussion anytime any place, however in this forum we are soon going to get to debates that God exists or how can HE allow bad things to happen. If you want to have the discussion, get my address on Facebook and email me. On the above, if government wants equal rights based on gender then ALL rights must be equal, except off course pregnancy as only women and by the looks of it Zuma's nephew can fall pregant.

      Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-03-08 22:31

      yah at workplace we may be equal i agree no problem bt do u believe that as long as our gender differ the benefit wil differ outside workplace,we cnt cancell ladies first,or let your wife fix your car or at 9t when you hear suspicous noise let your wife go and check,or fix leakng roof,

      Francois - 2012-03-08 22:32

      Then onto polygamy and HIV - you are spot on with your comment, except that HIV will not be "formed" and neither will it be transmitted. It has in fact aleady been formed and it causes AIDS, but Mbekkie did not know that! The problem is that if anyone of those cosy 8 in the relationship and extra cosy 8 relationship with an HIV+ person - the other seven are now all at risk, that is once again proof of the disastrous negative effect polygamy has on women. Go and read anybook you can get about the epidemology of HAV Aids in SSA and they will all tell you that the cosy 8 is not as cosy with one another as we are led to belief.

      Francois - 2012-03-08 23:20

      The book to read on Aids is "The wisdom of whores" by elizabeth pisani. It underlines the importance of treating women as equals (firstly) and it shows that Mbeki did not care two ticks about the people who are suffering the most under AIDS - the women of SA.

  • sefeddt - 2012-03-08 20:53

    DA is way ahead of you Mr Mthembu.

  • Eric Mdudus Shaku - 2012-03-08 21:11

    in my language Pedi states(tja etwa kea tshadi di wela ka leope) meaning women cannot lead men coz if women lead will end up in troubles.

      Makatikamusona - 2012-03-08 21:22

      I agree with you but I say in this century lets rather have those deserving to be in higher position be promoted, and this should be based purely on merit

  • Makatikamusona - 2012-03-08 21:12

    Women must also be employed or promoted based on their expertise like the rest of us. And I just think their maternity leave is far too and the business can't afford to have its CEO gone for over 4 months

  • Morne - 2012-03-08 21:24

    I would like to have 7 wives, one for each day of the week.

      Moss - 2012-03-08 21:43

      Just out of concern!! how long do yah last?

  • Jenny - 2012-03-08 21:41

    How about Thuli Madonsela being elected as president to replace Zuma.

  • Duncan Thabiso Mphailane - 2012-03-08 21:59

    And the number of women MECs in the Western Cape government?

      Francois - 2012-03-08 23:29

      I think it is pretty much equal, however if you meant the cabinet of the WC's government, that is another question, but then again the DA has a policy for the best person for the job irrespective of gender and they have won the WC's election with that policy - thus the people decided. You must call for democracy and accept everything with it or not call for it at all. If you call for a society that is free of sexism, then quotas don't apply then it is as stated best person for the job and in the very same way that Zuma may choose who he thinks is the best person for the job (although some of them are not very good), Zille may too. Since you are so up to the facts, SA has had four presidents since democratization - thus to apply your rule equally half of them should have been women. Which two were the women?

  • Tony - 2012-03-09 05:02

    More woman cruising about should...... Bet JZ can't wait .... Then go for a shower...

  • mpumi.zulu - 2012-03-31 21:18

    Practice what you preach honourable.

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