ANC deserves more credit - SAIRR

2012-09-11 14:32

Johannesburg - The ANC deserves more credit for improving the living conditions of poor black South Africans, the SA Institute of Race Relations (SAIRR) said on Tuesday.

"The ANC may be accused of a lot of things, but the data we have published is unambiguous that the ANC and the government it leads deserve considerably more credit for improving the living standards of poor and black South Africans," SAIRR deputy chief executive Frans Cronje said in a statement.

He agreed with statements made by President Jacob Zuma that South Africa had outdone other African countries in terms of service delivery.

Zuma spoke at the SA Local Government Association's (Salga) special national conference in Midrand on Monday.

Cronje said: "A myth has taken hold in South Africa that service delivery was a failure; however research we have published over the past several years suggests that this is not the case."

According to data published by the research and policy organisation between 1996 and 2010, the number of families living in formal houses had increased by 89.9%.

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In the same time period, access to water and electricity in households had risen by 127.9% and 76.6% respectively.

"Increases of a similar magnitude are true for all 15 service delivery indicators tracked by the institute," said Cronje.

He said service delivery successes contributed to the number of South Africans living on less than US$2 (R16.44) a day declining from 12% in 1994 to 5% in 2012.

He said service delivery protests across the country were not a sign of the government's failure to deliver.

Instead, the successes of service delivery had raised high expectations which could not be met because of shortcomings in the school system and labour market.

On Monday, Zuma said non-delivery of services had to do with problems created and inherited from apartheid, when large parts of the country had no form of local government.

  • procold2 - 2012-09-11 14:34

    BWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, who wrote this drivel

      stfrancisbay - 2012-09-11 14:41

      The ONLY credit they have is in their bank accounts :(

      clifford.sithole.5 - 2012-09-11 14:41

      I'm Still waiting for the free house and free lectricity that was promised to me..

      michael.vanrheenen.9 - 2012-09-11 14:42

      I am not going to say anything about the ANC... I am going to leave it to the black community to comment on this one. Ready, steady, GO:

      Rabbler.Rouser - 2012-09-11 14:45

      If things have improved so much then why are the politicians, trade unions and communists muttering and complaining so much? They should be happy. Malema should become a praise singer, not a complaining lout.

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-09-11 14:46

      My sentiments exactly! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

      Willie - 2012-09-11 14:47

      I'm not interested in whether we better than some of the African states, Zuma is not addressing the issue of corruption

      andrew.hendrikse - 2012-09-11 14:50

      It appears that the benchmark has been set to low!!!... If we want to compare ourselves with the rest of Africa!! wow wee... we've done better than Zimbabwe, Somalia, Mali, Sudan, DRC.......etc!!!! Big Whoop!!

      irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-09-11 14:55

      @Clifford ~ Keep waiting because you'll be waiting a very long time. I also want a free house and free electricity too. What's so special about you?

      alan.gernet - 2012-09-11 15:01

      whaahaaaa haa haaa whaahaaa haha haaa haha ha Eish eish - at least one "Govt' controlled (propoganda) Dept. is doing it's job! Spin doctors -UNITE!!!

      warren.rodel - 2012-09-11 15:57

      "He said service delivery successes contributed to the number of South Africans living on less than US$2 (R16.44) a day declining from 12% in 1994 to 5% in 2012." the Value of $2 in 1994 is the equivalent of $5 today because of inflation which is R40 - not R16.44, the facts are true but are irrelevant over the amount of time. This proves nothing. a loaf of bread was R2 in 1994. a loaf of bread today in the same retail store is R10. So how many loafs of bread could you get back then with R16.44? how many can you get today with R10? Someone is lying badly here!

      greg.young.39395 - 2012-09-11 16:01

      Correct me if im wrong, in 1994, R16 could buy you a hell of a lot more then than it can today. Add inflation to that $2, and see how many people needs to live off of that amount today. I think you'll still find it 12% if not more. Bogus research, full of pitfalls as published by the SAIRR.

      jacques.smit - 2012-09-11 16:10

      Bwahahaha idiots... did malema do their math? lets take a low figure for inflation, not sure on the exact amount, lets make it 5%... This pushes the total up to about R40 per day, 18 years later... Wonder how their figure will compare now.....

      alan.jerrold - 2012-09-11 17:07

      Yes, of bloody course there have been more houses etc built between 1996 and 2010. That is to be expected. But only a fraction of what COULD have been done if we had a proper government that didn't steal public funds and did deliver proper service.

      louis.olivier.988 - 2012-09-11 18:21

      Done the most with the white mans taxes and how much were you paid to say that?

  • akshar.sookraj - 2012-09-11 14:41

    Lol You are kidding me... How is this news... This is crap, the ANC is crap... The SAIRR is crap... Where did you get your Stats from ? One Of Anc's Auditors? Who did not complete Std 8? Come now really Hahahaahahahah

      mariuskowie - 2012-09-11 16:25

      Statistics are evil. There are a hundred people in the room. They need to vote in a leader. Mr X only gets two votes. The next week there is a vote again. With 400 people in the room. This time Mr X gets four votes. The week after he campaigns that he had a massive increase in support with a 100% increase. Although he actually had a massive decrease in support percentage wise. The statistics the government is claiming to be so fantastic is actually disgustingly poor.

  • demi.davidson.18 - 2012-09-11 14:42

    So what he is saying is SA is the 'best' of the 'worst' in Africa. What a pathetic statement from an even more pathetic leader!

  • JohncarlosBiza - 2012-09-11 14:42

    Google 'confirmation bias'

  • bevan.carpenter.1 - 2012-09-11 14:43

    if you let them pillage and plunder their direct lives to improve, but at what overall expense, oh the narrowmindedness (taking license)

  • chrissello.setshele - 2012-09-11 14:45

    Yes a gooood 1 but all the credit must be crreditet to TATA NELSON MANDELA

  • tim.brink.1238 - 2012-09-11 14:45

    ANC deserves nothing. It has wasted, consumed and amassed at the expense of the poor. They talk the talk but can not and will not ever deliver.

  • heathway.master - 2012-09-11 14:45

    My goodness, election time must be just around the corner. The ANC propogander machines are starting up and waiting for the stable gate to open.

  • jean.tredoux.5 - 2012-09-11 14:45

    The anc did provide housing, did provide water, electricity, did provide education, health care BUT how much have the been doing in the last 8 years, how could they go from improving to mismanagement so quickly, SA sliding in world rankings from health care to education, more people dying in SA today then during apartheid, screwing up education the best way possible and this something they were fighting for in apartheid and the best one of course being more EXTREMELY corrupt. The anc of today deserves zero credit, in fact they deserve to go to jail for crimes against humanity!!

      adriaan.pieterse - 2012-09-11 15:01

      I agree with you, all these comparisons seems to be drawn from 1994. But my question is what has the current tenure given the people of SA. Because in reality we are all much better off today than we were in 1246 BC but thats definitely not a fair conclusion to draw.

  • zaaristotle - 2012-09-11 14:46

    Though commendable, is there also a report of all the things that have been broken since 1994. Water purification plants, roads, primary health care facilties and education comes to mind. Just think what a spectacular achievement this would have been if the above elements had not broken down. Nothing would have stood in the path of making SA truly great.

  • bonge.mpofu - 2012-09-11 14:47

    waiting for comments on this one. not everything is bad, hey

      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-09-11 15:21

      absolutely correct bonge, if you one of the cadres in government everything is actually very good, until this whole mess created by your ANC implodes, then we can maybe start rebuilding.

      maria.roth.589 - 2012-09-11 16:20

      OK Bonge but tell me what do you pay for first electricity or food? The cost of food is much higher here than in most countries in Europe. Housing is cheaper but that is really about all. Also many things are not addressed in this article. For some people they are beyond dire electricity notwithstanding.

      mariuskowie - 2012-09-11 16:46

      "waiting for comments on this one. not everything is bad, hey" Bonge... Does that mean it is not bad if I call you an I D I O T?

  • kyle.r.lottering - 2012-09-11 14:50

    although their percentages look high, they are bullsh*t. They should be in the high hundreds because they don't reflect the truth. We could do better. We should do better. We need to do better! Down with the ANC!

  • jurie.nel.3 - 2012-09-11 14:50

    You get lies, damned lies and statistics. Frans Cronje, I expected better of you.

  • denis.dendrinos - 2012-09-11 14:50

    well considering what apartheid had to offer - it really wouldn't be difficult to do? But sure, give a bit of credit. Problem we have is allot more could have been done in the last 18 years....alot more at far less cost... "He agreed with statements made by President Jacob Zuma that South Africa had outdone other African countries in terms of service delivery." Oh - and Zuma did not say African countries - he said any country.....

  • JAbu.R15 - 2012-09-11 14:51

    JA ne what a heap of rubbish. they are trying to be favoured ny the ANC. pity we the people on the grond cant see that

  • phumi.ntlabati - 2012-09-11 14:52

    A sponsored view by those who are eyeing positions and funding from government after Mangaung, SAIRR does not warrant to be taken seriously!

  • ian.d.samson - 2012-09-11 14:54

    Statistics can be manipulated in any way the SAIRR wants. What a load of Taurus Faeces. SAIRR ought to open their EFFIN' EYES and look out the window. Just more ANC-sponsored rhetoric. I don't believe a word of this report.

      andy.pipkin.5458 - 2012-09-11 15:12

      @madoda And you've been better off, or worse off since your government have had a say over EVERYTHING for the last 18 years?

      shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-11 15:15

      @madoda- ANC has been running this country for 20 years and YET they still cant provide- and why? because they are stealing from you - Cone on man WAKEUP

  • clifford.harrison1 - 2012-09-11 14:57

    It's not difficult to do better than other countries in Africa lets face it!!!!!

  • dmcmr.dhai - 2012-09-11 14:57

    Our problems are complex in that we have government officials who work for their pockets, corporate greed where cheap labour is a norm and most importantly civilians who seat on their behinds, don't improve themselves, are lazy and waiting for freebies

  • toni.falletisch - 2012-09-11 14:59

    They make the Nats look like saints , i credit them with theft and corruption which all they do well!

      jason.sole.92 - 2012-09-11 20:45

      Madoda, it is not yours and to think otherwise only indicates your depth of intellect. Juju is a vulture feasting upon the remains of the uneducated, SA can do and deserve better than him. Think about, 40million black ppl and the only one you can come up with as a good leader is a corrupt miscreant.

  • JAbu.R15 - 2012-09-11 14:59

    What this is saying is, people who are toitoing firghting for better service delievery are just mad!

  • stefan.kruger.1297 - 2012-09-11 14:59

    In a logical mind, how are we supposed to give the ANC more credit on something that they had made worse... This topic is pointless and has no point as we all know the truth... The writer should find a new job

      jason.sole.92 - 2012-09-11 20:45

      Service delivery is better, not sustainable but better.

  • andy.pipkin.5458 - 2012-09-11 14:59

    "... between 1996 and 2010, the number of families living in formal houses had increased by 89.9%." The amount of families have ALSO increased significantly since 1996, you still have a problem and these stats are incorrect. "... the number of South Africans living on less than US$2 (R16.44) a day declining from 12% in 1994 to 5% in 2012." Give a man R16.44 in 1996 and he will buy food for a week.. give a man R16.44 today and he can hardly buy a bread. The amount of people who can live off R16.44 a day after 18 years of inflation WILL decrease! "... access to water and electricity in households had risen by 127.9% and 76.6% respectively." 127.9%, so now those family have more water than they need?? SAIRR, do you see us laughing at you yet?

      nathanjaysa - 2012-09-11 15:06

      Well said Andy

      douglas.w.scott.98 - 2012-09-11 15:28

      Population: 40.6m (1996) 50.1m (2010); a 20% increase, if it was 90% the the figure would have been nearer 80m. $2 was worth R8.60 in 1996, and R14.60 in 2010, while your general point about inflation may be correct it is nowhere near as dramatic as you aver . For comparison, at 2.47% inflation 1.41 2010 US$ buys as much as 1 2010 US$. (of course S.A. inflation was much higher over this period) An increase of more than 100% percent does not mean the total is more than a 100%, it just means the original figure has more than doubled (out of a total that may have grown, see your point 1) But hey, let's not think about things, let's just throw random snark out there and see how far that gets us, right? Check that your stats are right before you snipe at other's.

  • hendrik.andries.5 - 2012-09-11 15:01

    Go and check the SAIRR website : Research and Policy Brief: South Africa after the ANC - 2nd July 2012. Few analysts are prepared to make bold forecasts about South Africa’s future political landscape. This paper breaks from that pattern and argues that the ANC is dying and will lose its parliamentary majority at or before the 2024 national election. We do not make this forecast recklessly but rather because the evidence points overwhelmingly in this direction

  • nathanjaysa - 2012-09-11 15:04

    yes i AGREE living conditions have been improved for the poor black people they just take it from the poor white people and let us suffer even more, and dont even worry about our children s future and then they got the cheek to talk about one nation that cares no matter what color or race.. yahh right..

  • ben.louw.5 - 2012-09-11 15:04

    Well hire some people to give them credit.

  • deon.louw.7505 - 2012-09-11 15:05

    We should be compaired with a few more coutries than just Africa.

  • Donne.3 - 2012-09-11 15:07

    So if my dog gets Rabies can I blame that on the ANC as the ANC blame everything on Apartheid. Fair right?

  • larry.piggott1 - 2012-09-11 15:07

    The only thing that the ANC deserve is the order of the boot. Useless bunch of corrupt morons.

  • grant.montgomery.5074 - 2012-09-11 15:08

    I don't believe any of the statistics. If the number people living in formal houses has increased by 89.9% why are the squater camps expanding? As for the number of people earning less than $2 a day, with inflation at the it has been over the last 18 years people will need a hell of a lot more than $2 to survive.

  • wilhelm.grobbelaar - 2012-09-11 15:09

    And what of the poor White South Africans.

  • shelley.vorster.9 - 2012-09-11 15:10

    ROFLMFAO - You are really looking for re-election are you not? You are lying to the people and sadly they will believe you and then we will face more protests, more poor service delivery, hospitals will close etc etc and you will try to cover your own A&&& by blaming apartheid AGAIN

  • malusi.shumane.7 - 2012-09-11 15:13

    Very true!!!

  • clement.debillot - 2012-09-11 15:14

    "On Monday, Zuma said non-delivery of services had to do with problems created and inherited from apartheid, when large parts of the country had no form of local government." Apartheid again to blame - 18 years down the road. Please can the ANC sing a different tune. How about the 18years of corruption and BEE?

  • Mike_or_Mpho - 2012-09-11 15:17

    Most of South Africans would disagree

      Mike_or_Mpho - 2012-09-11 15:21

      Seriously, comparing the progress to other African countries is like Bill Gates comparing himself to the owner of a corner cafe. Try this, compare how much money was thrown at uplifting the black majority, then compare how much of that money actually went to that cause. Compare this to other countries, even in Africa, and only than will you see a true reflection of the incompetence of the ANC. No rocket science

  • galmzala - 2012-09-11 15:17

    here we go again, what is SAIRR smoking? why are we having so many protest all over the country if ANC is doing well, denial denial,and as for Mr President what has been done by you to solve the inheritence from apartheid,please dont insult my intelligence as SAn, just leave the presidential and go home to raise your kids and your wifes,

  • vivian.harris.73 - 2012-09-11 15:19

    Under what rock has this idiot been hiding? Tell that to the poor people living like animals in numerous informal settlements all over SA. No sanitation, no running water in most areas....while the fat cats live in mansions and security complexes and have expense accounts and have lavish parties....

  • Michael - 2012-09-11 15:21

    There are many protest actions in the Western Cape, does that mean Helen Zille administration is not delivering services to the poor? People i know you dont like ANC, but atleats be realistic sometimes, government has done well for the poor in this country.

  • mark.haupt.31 - 2012-09-11 15:21

    I will not argue with your statistics, statistics being what they are. However, it is obvious to any with half a brain that the unsustainable manner in which the ANC are going about governing is leading to disaster. You cannot expect - not for long anyway - that a small percentage of the population, the taxpayers, can carry a growing number of unemployed, grant-receiving, striking and homeless people. Just do the figures yourself.

  • clement.debillot - 2012-09-11 15:22

    A recent report by Nombembe found that only 13 out of 343 municipalities in South Africa achieved clean audits in the financial year 2011/12 But i guess it is apartheid fault. 18 years down the line and corruptions is filling the politicians pockets

  • daniel.w.gie - 2012-09-11 15:22

    What is this stooge Cronje smoking .....Majat ..?

  • louis.nolte.3 - 2012-09-11 15:22

    30 years ago blacks weren't capable of owning million rand houses and driving fancy cars, however, the question to be answered is not whether that minority is now living a good life, the questions are what has happened to the majority? And should it come at the cost of other races? The anc has improved the lives of many black south africans at the expense of destroying many white families - this is exactly what they said about the apartheid government. And the majority of blacks still live in slums.

  • riaan.w.vanwyk - 2012-09-11 15:22

    And what sayeth the poor black community about this? Let's hear their opinion? Oh wait they can't reply here because they can't afford internet..

  • sisie.indola - 2012-09-11 15:24

    Who actually believes this drivel?

  • ndlovucl - 2012-09-11 15:25

    If, and only if, it weren't for corruption - a lot would have been achieved by now. These statistics mean nothing because the government can't address corruption decisively (because all of them are corrupt and keep playing dirty political games at the expense of people's lives) - the lives that they have consistently promised to improve for the past 18 years of democratic rule.

      jason.sole.92 - 2012-09-11 20:50

      Sad and true. To make it worse at the end of this year the corrupt are going to elect the corrupt.

  • pierre.walt - 2012-09-11 15:29

    And how much have you being paid for this story...

  • eposius.fulious - 2012-09-11 15:30

    The ANC deserves more, like a child rapist deserves to live.

  • gloria.mathebula.9 - 2012-09-11 15:34

  • Sprinkler47 - 2012-09-11 15:35

    These figures might be correct, but to compare SA to the mediocrity of Africa is an insult to SA voters' intelligence. Maybe the deterioration in infra-structure in the last 18 years should also be brought into the equation? Where is sustainability in all of this?

  • haroldcecil - 2012-09-11 15:36

    Mr Frans Cronje u probably a ANC member or your research was done amongst some wealthy ANC members that has moved from the villages and townships 2 the suburbs where there is water and electricity 24/7.By the way Mr Frans Cronje u cant compare South Africa with Zimbabwe or any other African country