Phosa wants open ANC elections

2012-10-31 22:18

Johannesburg - The process of electing African National Congress leaders should be open, party treasurer Mathews Phosa said on Wednesday.

"I, for one, believe that our process for the election of our office bearers should be more open, more structured, and definitely more in touch with grassroots structures of our party and movement," he said.

"When, however, such contestation becomes personal, disruptive and not in keeping with the strong democratic values of our movement, then as a consequence unity will be bruised."

In a speech prepared for delivery at the memorial service of Themba Manyosi in Mthatha, Phosa said leaders should speak out to stabilise the movement.

They should do this by looking a decade ahead rather than only two months into the future.

"When we look back in 10 years time, the risk will be that we shake our heads and say: If only we kept cool heads and looked at the health and future of our party, rather than who will fill what position based on which agenda."

Phosa said while the ANC had done much in improving the lives of South Africans, continuing with social payments was not good in the long run.

"We cannot, in the long term, become a nation where the state is the sole provider of social payments, economic opportunities, and jobs," he said.

"The fibre of our approach towards economic growth needs to change... we need to actively encourage, promote and mentor black entrepreneurs who create wealth, opportunities and jobs."

The ANC had worked hard in its attempt to turn around the harsh legacy of apartheid.

"In that we have partially succeeded, but the truth is that we have a long way to go," Phosa said.

"To be able to claim success in that regard we have to ensure that the twin evils of poverty and unemployment are addressed in the short and medium term."

The transition from a liberation movement to a party governing a country was a challenging one, fraught with dangers and seductions.

"It is difficult, when at the rise of the sun one morning, you change colours from a liberator to government, and in many ways, you become the enemy," he said.

"That challenge to change your character and methodology from opposing the oppressor to seeking partnerships with erstwhile enemies is one that many liberation movements have failed [in]."

Phosa said the ANC's job was a simple one - translating policy into delivery in the shortest possible time-frames.

"If we make honest mistakes in doing so, then so be it. I would rather that we deliver through a tough learning process than not deliver at all."

  • asdhasgd - 2012-10-31 22:40

    and i want a new government instead of a corrupt, facsist, propaganding, dictating, incitful, slimy fatcat, racist, demogog but hey we cant all get what want now can we.

      thembi.neville.7 - 2012-11-01 01:17

      Yes,new management in the country is needed,coz this old members of anc are all corrupt en they don't think about the youth league!

  • rjledwaba - 2012-10-31 22:49

    Hope the fatcats heard and read this

      timmy.ditsele - 2012-11-01 06:54

      We should not only be able to vote for the president we want but also the mayor, premier,etc that way they can be held accountable coz they will be reporting to the people instead,and not deployed once they f@#$k up.

  • neil.fromearth - 2012-10-31 23:15

    "The fibre of our approach towards economic growth needs to change... we need to actively encourage, promote and mentor black entrepreneurs who create wealth, opportunities and jobs. Again, why only black people. This is a racist government and I am sure the entire economy for all races would be better off if they made race a non issue. The ANC itself may benefit too.

      timmy.ditsele - 2012-11-01 07:00

      @Mbavhalelo and nhlakanipho. guys do you know why we are still trapped in the so called third world country? The last regime did not want to devlop all the citizens of the country and we were left behind (SA) now the goverment of the day also want to do the same? we will forever be left behind because of our thinking. (south africans)

  • sminx.r.mandla - 2012-10-31 23:19

    Action is better than intention Mr Phosa, less yada yada more work work!!

  • thamifraser - 2012-10-31 23:27

    Anybody who has the ambition to serve at the highest level of our constitutional democracy should have the courage of their conviction to open themselves up for robust public scrutiny in order to convince the citizenry that they have what it takes to serve at that level. Not the smoke and mirror, cloak and dagger stuff that the ANC is dishing up at the moment.

  • thulani.sparks - 2012-10-31 23:40

    Was there much said about d deceased??

  • oliphant.mzolisi - 2012-10-31 23:53

    As much as i agree with Phosa that,we need to actively ancourage,promote and mentor black entrepreneurs to create wealth,oppotunity and jobs,but that is not practical and will not b in a long time as it only benefits family members of those who ar in national parliament,provincial lagislature,NEC members, national directors and those who ar close to the groupings mentioned above as for the grass roots level just a false dream.

      hein.huyser - 2012-11-01 06:05

      Agreed. The anc is inherently corrupt and sick from the head down. If business are to create jobs instead of government, they must change their racist laws and open funding for all races. If you are jobless, and a Somali or Zimbabwean are prepared to employ you at a reasonable wage, do you mind? Me. I won't mind, as long as he gives me a fair wage for a fair days work. The government is too close minded and not serious about job creation except close to election time. The liberation movement can NOT do the change over to lead in a democratic way. The dna is wrong Time for change

  • george.lyon.756 - 2012-11-01 05:47

    Successful transformed from a liberation movement to a bunch of thieves re instating apartheid - mr. Phosa, that is the reality!

  • raymond.kok3 - 2012-11-01 05:49

    true democracy dictates that you must vote for the person thats the best for the job not 4000 idiots deciding for 51million people which puppet will come fill his pockets and grow his harrem for the next five years

      xolanit.ntuli.9 - 2012-11-01 06:35

      The idiots are just around you mate

      thifulufhelwi.masala - 2012-11-01 07:25

      Ray anc is not going to elect the country president bt the person the will send to contest for country`s president. We stil have the power to vote for anada party. The problem is we jst seat and cry foul instead of mobilising and convince people to vote for anada party. That's y anc will always win becouse we know they ar nt doing good bat we do nothing about it.

  • douglas.reid.921 - 2012-11-01 06:14


      thabang.molelekoa - 2012-11-01 06:21

      Was @ any point nationality mentioned in this article.... Please go get your refund from your home based uneducated teacher because you fail to comprehend the matter at hand....

      khethu.ndlovu.3 - 2012-11-01 06:25

      Poor reid, is this the best u can come up with?

      xolanit.ntuli.9 - 2012-11-01 06:26

      OMG please! its not about Zulus here, it about the party. The structures will tell, as to which structures have most voting delegates supporting who? is anybody's guess at the moment.

  • tw2066 - 2012-11-01 06:36

    Äs this twit said 'fibre of our approach towards economic growth needs to change... we need to actively encourage, promote and mentor black entrepreneurs who create wealth' --- Another ANC Racist!!

      joshua.sematla - 2012-11-01 07:03

      U got issues

  • talita.vandermerwe - 2012-11-01 06:39

    You should never has started this social payments in the first place. Girls as young as 14 are having babies in order to get this social payment.

  • louis.nolte.3 - 2012-11-01 06:46

    That's it.look after the well-being and survival of the party and to hell with the country. I wonder what would have happened to afrikaners had they sat back and blamed the british for everything...but the fact is they didn't.

  • sibiya.msizi.melvon - 2012-11-01 07:02

    well said comrade phosa which this could be published every politician

  • joshua.sematla - 2012-11-01 07:06

    Has he forgotten that his comrades don't want to create wealth, they want to distribute it

  • Karabo Phetoane - 2012-11-01 07:29

    We have to understand a thing or two what happened in South Africa is very much different to the Serbian and the Croats and it differs a lot to the Germans and Jews conflicts,here we talking about a systematic oppression that was used to pit blacks against blacks and depriving them birth rights and relegating them sub-human in their country of birth.Anglo Boer War was a war amongst two non Africans fighting for what is not theirs,our own land and riches was their prize thats why I don't even recognise that war.Here we are victims,don't to divert the issue to suit your argument.

  • sabelo.nkwanyana - 2012-11-01 07:46

    Back in 2007 going towards Polokwane the then SG of the party said that we must deepen the debate and have political schools where people will be taught, the driving philosophies of the party. That we are the vanguards of the country, state and it's resources. As in South Africa archiving it's goals, we need to invest in knowledge economy that will result in our people being positively driven. Given the environment we are in as a country I don't foresee that in the near future .we must think for the unborn

  • vandeventer.sarel - 2012-11-01 07:48

    Create wealth!!!!!!!!! Its nice to hear it from an anc man!!!

  • ggbogacwi - 2012-11-01 08:14

    well said Mr Phosa. Now the implementation part: Remove Zooma in mangaung because he wanted to be zooomed and be seen and be famous like kenny kunene and he got his umshimini wakhe and he must go back where ever he came from. We need a government that can mentor Entrepreneurs and create job opportunities. He must bear in mind that S.A is not a Monarchy state

  • ant.duke - 2012-11-01 09:07

    These older ANC "Statesmen" (snigger) seem to slumber and bumble their way through the year and then pick out a chosen chestnut to drop on us. Like this idiot. Phosa is part of the problem from way back. And don't you just love the way they tell 'us' these things in the media but obviously never bring it up in one of their "robust engagements" about "challenges" against "mischievous" colleagues who "are waging a smear campaign" (their own colleagues nogal) against "disingenuous" opposition attempts at "counter revolutionary forces"...

  • alf.pop - 2012-11-01 10:52

    Where doesPhosa all of a sudden find words like "open", "transparent", "democratic values"? While he was the premier of Mamparalanga he set the precent for it to become the worst performing province in S.A., only recently losing that "honour" to Limpopo! Forget the ANC and rather join a bookclub! At least you may find a few people who are literate!

  • musawakhe.ngubane - 2012-11-01 11:23

    What is wrong with you, comrade Phosa? When we elected you to be Treasurer-General in 2007 (Polokwane), elections in the ANC were open. What now? Is it wrong now that you will not make it in Mangaung? You are now speaking like Lekota, who thinks the ANC was OK just before he was defeated when he had those fake aspirations of becoming the SG of the ANC. Cde Phosa, let me address you: You have been part of the ANC top 6 since December 2007. At times you just went out to your rallies, only to be out of order when you were part of a collective decision. How could you represent comrades charged of ill-discipline when you are part of a collective leadership? In the ANC, we do not want comrades like you with double standards, in leadership. I hope you have learned from your mistakes. You are going down, Chief!

  • tshepo.maganedisa - 2012-11-01 11:25

    Amen to that, i also think that the ANC needs to move from being a liberation movement to more of a progressive movement, liberation has been achieved, now lets work in promiting equal econominc participation, service delivery to all South Africans and fair and equal playing fields (not what we see currently, where a government is both a player and referee at the same game) Zuma and his administration have failed and to ask for 2nd term is like kicking the chair while the robe is on the roof (we are going down and the sooner we remove the current administration the bette the chances of survival)

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-01 11:43

    Strong democratic values of our movement?. You're joking Phosa. The ANC threw out strong democratic values long ago when greed won from common decency.

  • buti.lembe - 2012-11-01 12:51

    Whites, Boers and Blacks are all given time to lead South Africa. Why we don't give Coloureds and Indians to try their best.

      parys.fotograaf - 2012-11-01 12:56

      You are realy wherry, wherry silly.

      andy.mku.9 - 2012-11-01 16:36

      in India not here durban atchaar

  • parys.fotograaf - 2012-11-01 12:53

    Phosa, the ANC follows outdated commie ideology. You are there-for farting against the wind.

      tony.naidoo - 2012-11-01 13:10

      wherry wherry silly! Karma is a bitch!

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-11-01 13:02

    'Grassroot structures' ? This sounds more like what you mamparas are smoking in Luthuli House !

  • andy.mku.9 - 2012-11-01 16:40

    the only problem in the ANC is zuma the sooner he goes the better

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