ANC head must restore dignity - Jordan

2012-10-11 10:45

Johannesburg - The ANC needs to elect a president that will repair the party's credibility and dignity, national executive committee (NEC) member Pallo Jordan said on Thursday.

"Whoever the ANC membership elects in November will have to grasp the nettle of restoring the ANC's dented credibility and dignity to the office of the president," he wrote in an opinion piece in the Business Day.

Jordan said former president Thabo Mbeki's "aloofness" could not prevent party members from assuming there was "wheeling and dealing" behind the NEC's back.

This led to him being isolated in the party, and his eventual replacement.

"For many in the ANC, Jacob Zuma's election promised relief from the managed internal democracy of Mbeki's incumbency," he wrote.

"Instead, it has been marked by political problems, most notably a radical decline in the ANC's credibility. Zuma's own actions have also stripped the office he holds of dignity."

  • eva.walle.75 - 2012-10-11 10:56

    And until they do, the ANC is not the right party to govern this country!

      bloulig.brigadeer.3 - 2012-10-11 10:59

      It's not just the president that needs to be changed, it's the whole damn party!!! The whole bloody ANC are corrupt bastards! VOTE DA PEOPLE!!!! Or ANY other party except the ANC!

      themba.mkhize.5494 - 2012-10-11 11:02

      JUJU 4 President

      msendi - 2012-10-11 11:04

      @bloulig.brigadeer.3…Lets leave it to the electorate… Oh, how I like DEMOCRACY!!!

      bloulig.brigadeer.3 - 2012-10-11 11:10

      @ DelusionBuster - Very well said sir!

      Willie - 2012-10-11 11:35

      This is results of thr so -called "COLLECTIVE RESPONSIBILITY" , I must say all the blunders of Mr Zuma are the results of this stupid idea.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-11 11:38

      @Delusion. No. 8 You may never hold those in office accountable for their actions. The fact that they plunder tax money for themselves which takes away from service delivery and infrastructure is their right. The true culprit (until Jesus comes again) is apartheid (which happened in the country before most of the current population was born). No. 9 It is your right and duty to have as many children as possible, even if you cannot feed them. It is the duty of the state to tax the productive people more, so that the little bit of tax money that is left over after corruption can be used to feed and educate these children. It does not matter if over-taxation causes businesses to close ... then you must tax the remaining businesses even more. No.10. Everybody deserves a house (free) and a good paying job, irrespective of their competence and education. No.11. Logic has no place or value in Africa. WE DEMAND (unsustainable hand-outs)!!!! No.11. Although we love Western Capitalistic trappings which boost our egos, we despise the Capitalists. No. 12 Although socialism and dictatorships have never ever worked anywhere else in the world... it is what we demand because Juju says it is good. No.13. BEE etc is our right 18 years on.... Legislation is tipped heavily in our favour with BEE Reverse Apartheid, yet we still despise the Capitalistic Pigs who work for what they have. Eish DelusionBuster ... do you want a top 100?

      jackie.stone.501 - 2012-10-11 11:50

      @DelusionBuster - you talking nonsense, We don't vote DA simply because we don't subscribe to their policies and their idea of a Democracy. If they changed their view and seek the rectify the imbalances of the past perhaps they could get our vote. Don't remember someone ever saying they would not vote for it because it is lead by helen, it doe snot matter if it was led by any black person as long as they have the policies, the will never see my vote in this life time. DA is very silent of the struggle of a black man, they want maintain the status quo. The rest of your other reason are just nonsense and don't we will ever want to entertain. We always weigh up situation and under the current circumstance we will rather settle and sink our black people into a well

      mpho.kgakwakandlovu - 2012-10-11 11:53

      You have been calling me names because I vote for ANC. Just to mention a few: 'idiot, blind follower of uneducated... & so forth'. Is this going to change if I vote DA? Bloody hypocrite.

      mfrater - 2012-10-11 12:13

      The ANC has done its job, it helped (along with the rest of the world and the white population in SA) to END the Apartheid. For that I salute the ANC. They were and are 'freedom fighters'. The trouble is, there is no more 'freedom fighting' and that is all they know how to do. They have never been able to get a grip on being a 'government', for 18 years we have all sat back watching the slow decline into chaos that has now become the ANC of today. They fought hard to get this country into a 'free state', but now their idle hands have other agendas, power and money. Greed has taken over and that is all that is left. Unemployment in SA is now higher than it ever was in Apartheid days, the education system is a laughing stock to the rest of the world. Our industries are collapsing with strikes in just about every sector - crippling our economy. Service sectors are corrupt, dysfunctional and years from repair. In the end it is sad to say, but SA is the pot that is slowly boiling the frogs - ALL OF US. Personally I do not care if a black, white, pink, yellow, or blue government party runs this country - I simply care that they actually KNOW WHAT THEY ARE DOING!

      p.borchard - 2012-10-11 12:14

      delution buster YOU ARE BRILLIANT! I intend to copy and paste all of these Top ... and distribute it everywhere! Jackie - "DA is very silent of the struggle of a black man, they want maintain the status quo". Maybe you should try and do some research in what the DA stands for. I suggest you do not limit your reading to what Juliaaaaaaas and the ANC says, but rather to what is generally available out there. Try it, you might like what you find. Jackie (once more) "we will rather settle and sink our black people into a well". Then you deserve what you get.

      msendi - 2012-10-11 12:15

      @DelusionBuster - The problem is not ANC or DA, but people like you who love their political organisations than this country. You fall in the same category with unquestioning ANC supporter, the only difference is that you are an unquestioning DA supporter…

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-11 12:21

      @Jackie - you have a valid point. I do think that a lot of people would not vote DA on a colour basis though. Personally, I have no colour issue, and it is transparency, honesty and accountability that I would like to see in Govt. Whilst I am sure no political party anywhere in the world would meet that criteria, I have the perception that the DA is closest in SA. But as a white person, I do not know if they address the wishes and needs of black people in SA. What I do know is that the current Anc never takes responsibility for anything, and always looks to blame the white people or apartheid, even after 18 years in power. (They were a much better party in Mr Mandela's days). From my own perspective, white people do not wish bad on black people in general. We would like to see black people become better educated and more productive in SA, and many of us work towards that. But our economy also has a reality - on the world stage.. i.e. we are not productive or competetive, and our population is expanding at a rate that a small 3rd world country can never sustain. No matter what happens in SA, the majority of people here will always live in poverty (because of the population growth), and because the counrty can never generate enough income to educate etc. so many people. Most ciizens in SA have basic or little education, and are clueless as to how an economy works, resulting in the mindset of demanding that their unrealistic expectations are met.

      justin.sly.77 - 2012-10-11 12:42

      @DelusionBuster - 9) You believe the best defense is denialism, even when there are concrete facts involved. 10) Instead of arguing your case, you resort to name calling, failing that you resort to violence and intimidation to force your way of thinking.

      justin.sly.77 - 2012-10-11 12:53

      @Jackie - Have you ever researched what the DA stands for and what their policies actually state? You would be very surprised to learn that their policies for redressing the legacy of our past are far more advanced and progressive than anything any other political party has, including the cANCer. The problem with people is they listen to the loudest voice, and in this country they come from people in the cANCer that shout whatever comes to mind even if it is total rubbish.

      ivy.malema.3 - 2012-10-11 13:17

      The truth is blacks are still discriminated in the work place. Recent Research has pointed out that the private sector prefer to hire a white person than a black person and the DA does not question that, they are only against BEE which tries to correct the past. A black person who support DA is a black who think is more white

      claudia.meads - 2012-10-11 13:23

      mpho.kgakwakandlovu, If you vote for the ANC and people call you names, then you get upset, because you know it is true. If you vote DA and people call you names, then you laugh about it, because you know it is false. Even better - vote DA and you can join those who tell the truth about the "...idiot, blind follower of uneducated... & so forth..." that vote for the ANC...

      thabang.bonang.7 - 2012-10-11 13:29

      @mpho.kgakwakandlovu, just to add on what some of DA supporters call us.I am only picking from comments on this artice. Not forgettingthat those comments received many likes. Bastards, brainless,stupid,useless. And someone thinks I would consider voting DA. Hahahaha!!!!! Perhaps other parties would stand a better chance.

      claudia.meads - 2012-10-11 13:37

      thabang.bonang.7, I hope you are brave enough to hang onto your (noted) convictions, when your children- and theirs ask you, why you voted for the destruction of their country when you still had a choice...

      Kayla - 2012-10-11 13:49

      Eva :Admission accepted ? its crisis time and more analyzing will not reinvent him , 1 term bye. Full stop. Hoping the zuma2 show is not going anywhere aswell as nkandla and the wasted retirement fund on the e toll .Out of 49m and thats our best we have as Honest educated leaders ?Please voters think about the country and not just about the party that is the message they need .Make your politician work don't just give them your vote they need to have built improved maintained managed cared for and defended you from ignorance and poverty sickness and crime and made you self sufficient not dependent so that you can generate a taxable income until then we are becoming a welfare state. .

      gerald.nchabeleng - 2012-10-11 15:04

      Dear delusionbuster, Firstly, I do tend to like most your posts even though mostly I disagree with your points. I do think your top 10 on that Christianity post was a tad harsh, but hey, let live. If I may be so rude as to interject, and try to answer the question that you posed to thabang and mpho... When we open our mouths and utter words what we are actually doing is trying to communicate, we have an objective to fulfil, in fact that is what I believe seperates us from lesser creations, we always have objectives to fulfil...a bigger picture. Unfortunately our 'bigger pictures' are different. Now, your leading question....what do you call people that vote ....? The answer is you are completely entitled to call them anything and everything, because in the grand design of things they actually do not care for you, I mean that demographic will not donate 1ml of their urine to douse your head if it caught fire. They just might probably add benzene. Now, the popular sentiment here is to label those people as intellectually compromised, I think Claudia_heads is one of the experts on social anthropology and evolution, she tends to remind us so often. Now, if we put emotional expletives aside, one tends to see few common denominators amongst ANC supporters. Poverty, poor education, lack of employment, etc...this people were poor pre 1994 and now,they have nothing to lose by voting for a body that keeps them poor.

      gerald.nchabeleng - 2012-10-11 15:14

      a good percentage does not pay tax, so why cry when the ANC squander money, its not their tax money. The ANC doesn't get to call them stupid or primates. All the problems they have they still blame on apartheid. The judiciary is transformed but the pattern of the judgements just scream racial prejudice. The economy truly isn't transformed and even though the ANC must take the biggest blame so many years down the road our collective past can never be taken forgranted. The reasons are endless and will probably parallel why you will vote DA. If a man has never tasted the efficient administration that you tasted under apartheid how will he fight for it? Does the ANC intentionally keep people uneducated so they vote ANC? Maybe. My point is you assuming a point of moral and intellectual supremacy will not serve your agenda one iota. So to answer you, please call them anything you will. Be creative. Go to town with it. My agenda is for people not to vote DA. So the lively commentary about our primate behaviour, from the fine sport of branch hobbing, to our excellent garden skills, our fine motor skills at nose picking, etc...they merely serve to promote my agenda cost I print this comments out, and spread them about, making my small humble contribution.

  • brionyl.french - 2012-10-11 10:56


      bob.mcmillen.564 - 2012-10-11 11:20

      The ANC can restore dignity by admitting they are totally useless, resign from government and hand the reins over to the DA, they will have my utmost respect if they do this

      msendi - 2012-10-11 12:20

      @bob.mcmillen.564… Only electorate have the power to hand the reigns to the DA, not ANC. DA, as the self proclaimed democtats know better…

      morris.khunou - 2012-10-12 14:47

      The DA can fake racial unity and parade the likes of Mazibuko, dance and chant freedom songs and immitate every little thing that makes the character of anc. But it is our daily experiences with you guys that counts. the kind of comments, insinuitions and blatant insults and generalisations of another human race dont do you any favour.MANY WHITES BEHAVES LIKE THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO BE BORN WHITE?

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-10-28 21:29

      True! This ANC-PF has so many forked tongue snake heads "Medusa like" that they will never find direction. Pallo Jordan stop being a lackey clown and speak out like an educated person as does Moeletsi Mbeki for better example, or even Mangxu and Zille

  • azande.futhi - 2012-10-11 10:57

    Truth be Told. That is very bold and truthful statement from within the ANC. Its clear that Jordan disapproves Zuma rightfully.

      tim.gordon.5011516 - 2012-10-11 12:22

      Dear Pallo. I hope that running your personal vendetta was worth the cost to South Africa.

  • johan.jacobs.33821 - 2012-10-11 10:57

    Fully agree,but wil it happen?.

      msendi - 2012-10-11 11:05

      Lets pray…

      sean.redmond3 - 2012-10-11 11:17


  • olebogeng.diratsagae - 2012-10-11 10:57

    if he remain.he wil b voted by his friends 14 national votes.young pple 80% have last trust and hope on dis shower man.

      paul.kershaw.18 - 2012-10-11 11:12

      .. and hopefully some form of better education will be provided too so that posters with your level of spelling and grammar usage will vastly improve so the rest of us will understand what you have posted and be able to respond properly.

      gerald.nchabeleng - 2012-10-11 11:55

      @ Paul, Hopefully the level of education will improve, but may I add, it is inconsequential for you to understand this man, after all I don't think you belong to a demographic that has any influence on the electorate, and whatever party you may like, your grandiose attitude will serve you little in trying to get the many olebogeng.diratsagae's out there to vote for the change you seek. Do enjoy your higher quality education for years to come, but remember one thing, you don't have to understand olebogeng at all. I for one am grateful that I understand him

  • olebogeng.diratsagae - 2012-10-11 10:58

    if he remain.he wil b voted by his friends 14 national votes.young pple 80% have lost trust and hope on dis shower man.

  • Michael - 2012-10-11 10:58

    And that leader must also make you one of the cabinet minister ne? Cadr Jordaan is veri interesting, when he is in government all is well, and when he is not, the party is in chaotic state,

  • kella.magakwe - 2012-10-11 10:59

    Comrade Kgalema will do that 4 us, not Shower man

      themba.maseko.568 - 2012-10-11 11:06

      Motlante himself does not have tertiary education, and let Zuma be our last president without tertiary education. Educated people do not seem to have the political appeal, Dr Pallo Jordan included. Hence I understand countries that have a president and a prime minister. Even Nkosazana Zuma does not have political appeal, but would make an excellent prime minister. Ideally the ministers are supposed to be supported by director generals, hence deputy ministers are just a waste of money to me.

  • richard.bosmano - 2012-10-11 11:02

    "the ANC needs to elect a president that will repair the party's credibility and dignity". Dear Mr Jordaan , you cannot repair what you never had.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-11 11:41

      well - in Mr Mandela's day's I think that the leadership was on the right track, and we had a President who comanded respect from all people in SA, which was a unifying factor.

      richard.bosmano - 2012-10-11 12:24

      Fair enough , Mandela was a great leader and unifier , but the stink in the anc already started during his tenure.The arms deal was cooked up while he was still at the helm , T-bone(thabo) just initiated it

  • david.diale.75 - 2012-10-11 11:02

    this time we are nolonger interested in ANC,u can write whatever it is neccesary but we now go 4 DA.goodby ANZeeeey.

  • mshiniboys - 2012-10-11 11:04

    Money ANC versus peoples' ANC.I doupt you can mend any damage caused by greed,selfishness, back stabbing and killing of comrades.Political parties have evolved into gang groups.

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-10-11 11:20

      No the ANC has evolved into a gang from a terrorist organization

  • nghamula.mdunwazi - 2012-10-11 11:04

    I don't think ANC will manage 55percet in the national election as long as zuma will remain I power.COPE,UDM,PAC,AZAPO I don't think they will struggle to find some votes this time.

      desertratbkf - 2012-10-11 11:19

      Absolutely! Anyone BUT cANCer! They are destroying this beautiful nation!

      richard.bosmano - 2012-10-11 12:26

      We can only hope and pray.As a DA supporter i don't even wish they would vote DA , but for heavens sake , let other "african" party's rather garner those votes

  • story.modikwe - 2012-10-11 11:06

    They want Malema to pay back R2m he did not steal but they leave an illiterate man from Nkandla who stole R203m.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-11 11:46

      only 2 million??? what planet are you from?

  • bling.mbomvu - 2012-10-11 11:07

    I would love to see Trevor Manual leeds the ANC and become President of the country, he is the man can do wonderfull job.

      donovan.moore.75 - 2012-10-11 11:33

      Amen,brother. Trevor for president!!

      ndlovuvincent - 2012-10-11 11:41

      Mbomvu,u have hit the nail in the coffin.Trevor must lead the country,not Zuma,Kgalema and Tokyo.Ramaphosa is also my favourite.Those are the people I have confidence they will make a difference.

  • John.Yossarian22 - 2012-10-11 11:14

    Most probably an impossible task. Corruption, and just no morals have become the culture of the ANC. A culture takes a very long time to change, if ever. The ANC is doomed in the long run, but so was/is ZANU-PF. Let's hope the ANC don't resort to thuggery to hold on to power in future, like Mad Bob.

  • henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-10-11 11:19

    And where are you going to find a white ANC member with this credibility?

  • gaius.longinus.9 - 2012-10-11 11:21

    Doesn't matter who the anc elects, the downfall of SA has already been created and the "new" or used leader will only look after himself and his cronies. anc is the curse of SA.

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-10-11 11:22

    I agree with you Dr Pallo Jordan.You are one of the independent thinkers we have in South Africa. Thank you sir for showing the world that we are not all idiots in this country

  • james.ilukena - 2012-10-11 11:25

    Zuma is busy dividing ANC but ANC top and members are told that Malema is the one Dividing them. Toady Mantashe said whites are on top and the blacks at the bottom.

  • rowina.mboyo - 2012-10-11 11:26

    I'm not sure dignity can be restored, ever.

  • chris.motloutsi - 2012-10-11 11:32

    Fictions in the ANC are taking this country back.We need a clean leader free from scandals,the one to unite and change this country for the better.

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-11 11:47


  • sbusiso.dlamini.79 - 2012-10-11 11:32

    Most people agree the country is burning because of zuma, but we need man like jordaan to speak in full sentences. Zuma is the worst thing ever happen to sa, let's not be vague. Sometimes I think there is something wrong with me when I hear people talking about second term, for what. So that he may proceed destroying the country. Then again people need to retain their positions.

  • george.slade.161 - 2012-10-11 11:42

    Other than Mandela they have NO ONE AT ALL.(not that he did much either) M,bekis Brother will do , but he is probably non gratia in the ANC. Manuel /Mothlantern ?? They are all absolutely useless ! You may as well keep Zoomer because whomever comes next is simply always worse .

  • peter.jefferies.90 - 2012-10-11 11:46

    ANC must be dissolved!!

      alan.gernet - 2012-10-11 11:48

      it's self destructing anyway

  • ndlovuvincent - 2012-10-11 11:47

    Dr Jordaan,your wise words are notoiced and well recoghnized.U have said the truth but the question is that why are u not resolving these issues in the NEC meetings which u are also a member of,rather going to the media to voice it.It leaves us with an impression that the whole ANC is divided and cannot act as a unit in the public eyes.What u are saying is naked truth but u should not act in a manner that shows us that u are divided. - 2012-10-11 11:55

      bro... it is not an impression... the anc are devided, and that is the beginning of the end, the founding members and their ideology have been p*ssed on by this current bunch of criminal political thugs, the provincial bodies cannot even agree who they want to lead the party... it's all good actually

  • sbusiso.dlamini.79 - 2012-10-11 11:53

    When mbeki was removed, zuma was some sort of a hero that saves sa from neglect as mbeki had more interest in africa than home, now people thinks either tokyo or montlante may provide solutions. We as a country needs to look beyond colour or anything that may distract us from finding the truth. What is montlantes track record or tokyo for that matter. How about trevor manuel is he not black enough which looks like the criteria in the anc, he did very well as a minister of finance and groomed people like pravin. Zuma groomed malema. TREVOR MANUEL is the answer. He comes up with great plans that zuma cannot apply at grass root level simply because he does not understand them. I am a taxi driver stuppid enough to know Trevor is the best man for the job if ne was darker

      bheki.moyo.39 - 2012-10-11 12:06

      Yes I also think Trevor can do better,Zuma and Mbeki did their best but you know you can not please everyone in life. Tokyo is a non starter,it would be a big mistake for the ANC representatives to choose him. As for Malema forget about him its like he doesn't exist.

  • sefako.mokgalaka - 2012-10-11 11:58

    We need a leader not just a president. Someone who will start fixing the mess from the presidency right upto the public servants. Someone who will run the government like a business. Non performance - no rewards and dead wood must make way for employees who add value. The country is currently directionless and headless.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-10-11 12:04


  • john.s.stalwart - 2012-10-11 11:59

    It all began when an intellectual was replaced with a crook,go and call Thabo Mbeki back,he's the only man that can restore the dignity of the ANC,these others are just self serving corruption magnates, SA's no future with them as leaders,we need thought leaders who'l speak their minds but not borrowed thoughts,men nd women of intergrity but not national thieves hiding in the name of cadreship[nonsense],we want doctors to head dept.of health,economists to run the,lawyers to run the dept of justice and profesors to run the dept of education,dat way we can hope for positive changes in our country...

  • john.s.stalwart - 2012-10-11 12:01

    It all began when an intellectual was replaced with a crook,go and call Thabo Mbeki back,he's the only man that can restore the dignity of the ANC,these others are just self serving corruption magnates, SA's no future with them as leaders,we need thought leaders who'l speak their minds but not borrowed thoughts,men nd women of intergrity but not national thieves hiding in the name of cadreship[nonsense],we want doctors to head dept.of health,economists to run the,lawyers to run the dept of justice and profesors to run the dept of education,dat way we can hope for positive changes in our country...

  • john.s.stalwart - 2012-10-11 12:01

    It all began when an intellectual was replaced with a crook,go and call Thabo Mbeki back,he's the only man that can restore the dignity of the ANC,these others are just self serving corruption magnates, SA's no future with them as leaders,we need thought leaders who'l speak their minds but not borrowed thoughts,men nd women of intergrity but not national thieves hiding in the name of cadreship[nonsense],we want doctors to head dept.of health,economists to run the,lawyers to run the dept of justice and profesors to run the dept of education,dat way we can hope for positive changes in our country...

  • Brian Dorning - 2012-10-11 12:04

    Replacing one person is not going to do anything! Replace, name and shame any and all people that do not fulfill their jobs honestly and properly, within the ruling party! Black, white or blue, we all live in this country, and we should have representation from competent people, regardless of their race!

  • Gatvol Griet - 2012-10-11 12:06

    Tough shyte mr Jordan, have you seen who they are nominating?

  • andre.burrows.92 - 2012-10-11 12:09

    cANCer is not curable.Vote DA or relocate to the Republic of the Western Cape

  • bling.mbomvu - 2012-10-11 12:09

    How can we nominate comrade Trevor? I hope fat boy Malema can read our comments and do the right thing and raise his name for nomination.

  • richard.zanner - 2012-10-11 12:20

    And while the ANC seeks to rebuild it's dignity we need a party that can rebuild the devastation left by the ANC

  • lums.zindela - 2012-10-11 12:21

    Can someone just press the reset button in this anc thing? Only if there is one.

  • Vince.York - 2012-10-11 12:31

    UNREALISTIC & DELUSIONAL ANC again! the FAILED RACIST ANC "most unproductive inneficient" PARTY

  • Patrick Malungana - 2012-10-11 12:37

    Guys lets keep quiet, nothing will change until economic distribution has been achieved. If you want change join the ANC

      siyanda.yeni.5 - 2012-10-11 12:52

      What change Patrick? I'm shocked by your comment! The ANC has had a 100 years to bring change in this country,but all they have done is enrich themselves!

  • justin.sly.77 - 2012-10-11 12:38

    Mr. Jordan, you can't be popular after your piece. JZ is going to politically assassinate you...

      siyanda.yeni.5 - 2012-10-11 12:44

      @Justin,he is not trying to be populer! He's simply stating the truth! And you must see this as well,unless you are one of those hopeless loyalist of the ANC!

      lumsele - 2012-10-11 13:26

      Lol he will use state resoueces to try to dicredit him.

  • Patrick Malungana - 2012-10-11 12:40

    I wanna b a president and bring development to my village just like our president

      Tshilidzi Wa Ha Mukhovha - 2012-10-11 13:27

      Hasani P,I think MEC of Human settlement will suot you. Your brave I like that .Lmao

  • siyanda.yeni.5 - 2012-10-11 12:46

    Amen Pallo Jordan,I have always believed in your wisdom!

  • dan.gleebits.33 - 2012-10-11 12:48

    Noble sentiments Pallo. But one suspects that the Genie is out the lamp. As had occurred in the Zimbabwes of this world, the elite in the ANC "party of Liberation" have fallen into the arrogant trap of absolute power, believing that they have become untouchable when it comes to unlimited access to the public purse for private gain. That culture has spread through all the regions, hence the collapse of delivery from hospitals to schools to highways. The reaction when you try to tackle this will not be a humble recognition that something has gone wrong and needs to be fixed. Returning to the Zimbabwe scenario, it will be a case of seeing reformers as a threat to, by now, very comfortable lifestyles, and they will turn on you. Witness JuJu as a great example, but this extends right down into the very heart of all the structures where the "deployees" have established very cosy and lucrative networks of corruption. There is no turning back.

  • braamc - 2012-10-11 13:00

    Zuma must go - go to jail

  • hugh.olphart - 2012-10-11 13:14

    Not true, you need credibility first before you can lose it. You cant lose something you've never had.

  • flysouth - 2012-10-11 13:17

    It is becoming ever clearer that the ANC is imploding - and that is the best news for a long time.

  • Tshilidzi Wa Ha Mukhovha - 2012-10-11 13:37

    I wonder why Dr Pallo Jordan was a minister without portfolio during our former president Dr Nelson Mandela regime,he saw his wisdom.

  • andrew.surtees1 - 2012-10-11 13:51

    to be honest the ANC have alreadt destroyed this country and what it stands for,Nelson Mandela had a dream and we we all wanted that but then the ANC got greedy and keep using the racial card to get what they wanted, now see where it has got them and they still blame the white man and still use apartheid as a excuse! if anything the majority needs to realise that the white man can help alot more and make a great country even better than it was before without bring the whole racial thing into it! its meant to be equal right and yes we want the black community to come up in the world but remember rome wasnt built in a day, get the education right then it will grow alot better or would the majority still agree with the ANC after watching Zuma do touch ups on his house for R200 million and build a road basiclly just for his personal use to his hotel or sorry mean house for R280 million which is only 37km long! think about this please people,do what is right for the country and not for the individual!

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-10-11 14:16

    The ANC has become South Africa's greatest downfall. Pallo Jordan should rather have said it like it is, the ANC has no credibility, and changing president or not is not going to change a thing. The party has been infiltrated by hoodlums, nobody knows who the good guys are anymore because there are to many rotten apples. The anly thing to do is make cider, and drink some soon the ruling party will not be able to afford Johnny Walker for all it's members anymore. The ANC can elect 'Jesus' as president, it will not change a thing, they are owned by Satin, lock stock and barrel, and two smoking barrels of scum.

  • irene.buthelezi.1 - 2012-10-11 14:20

    cANCer has never EVER had any dignity to begin with so what dignity is this troglodyte trying to restore?

  • shaun.cousins1 - 2012-10-11 14:20

    Where is there dignity unless there is honesty?