ANC land, nationalisation policy slammed

2012-07-28 22:32

Johannesburg - The lack of clarity on the ANC's policies on nationalisation and land reform are a stumbling block to economic growth, the ACDP said on Saturday.

Following a meeting of its regional heads, the African Christian Democratic Party (ACDP) said the two issues were scaring away investors who might be interested in the country.

"While it is government’s stated intention to enhance growth, employment and equity, it is the ANC government itself that is hindering its own economic policy," said ACDP president Kenneth Meshoe.

He said economic growth was further constrained by the poor quality of education, the lack of skills development, fraud and corruption.

Meshoe also placed the blame on Black Economic Empowerment (BEE).

"BEE, from the ACDP’s perspective, facilitates self-enrichment of the politically connected, especially as the ANC is both referee and player," Meshoe said.

South Africa also needed to follow the International Labour Organisation (ILO) guidelines on labour broking. "This allows the industry to exist, develop and grow while effectively banning exploitation and abuse," he said.

Moshoe said there needed to be urgent action on youth unemployment.

"The ACDP supports the youth wage subsidy, however it will need responsible and coherent should be linked to training and certification."

He said the ACDP was also appalled at the poor performance of the country's schools.

The non-delivery and destruction of textbooks in Limpopo and the Eastern Cape, and the 90% failure rate in Further Education and Training (FET) colleges in KwaZulu-Natal were appalling.

Meshoe proposed that teaching be made an essential service and remuneration of teachers be bench-marked on international norms and standards.

"Teachers must be given the facilities and tools they need to teach effectively. Those responsible for negligence or sabotage must be held accountable and prosecuted."

  • thenga.pfananani - 2012-07-28 22:53


      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-29 10:11

      Don't worry everyone, young Julius has taken it upon himself to save the country by renewing investor confidence through gracing the UK financial scene with his reassuring presence. I am sure 'Team SA' will also appreciate the doubtless inspiration this bright flame of SA aspiration brings to all, now burning bright in their Olympian midst .....

      john.barbarian.9 - 2012-07-29 12:53

      Hahaha...well said Scouter (as always)

      husaberg.twostroke - 2012-10-23 01:10

      Look man lets face it since the ANC came into power in South-Africa most things in government agencies are going for a ball of shizzer. Minucipalities are in such desseray nationwide, theyre bankrupt, they have water and electricity issues, Sewer problems, more crimes are commited ect, schooling is a JOKE for youngsters in South-Africa IE Textbook suplying problems lax of intellegence from teachers no dissipline from all involved, Hospitals lack of professionalism and the supply of medecine, Potholes for Africa, riots just because its fun to riot ect ect. International corporate investment morals are broken for South-Africa. Thanks to Malemmer and Nationalization of certain corporate projects ect. Sit die ligte af wanneer die laaste mens die tonnel verlaat./ Switch the lights of whenever the last person leaves the tunnel. IE Excuse my spelling I'm just another Boer that left South-Africa and is now farming in America. En so verloor Suid-Afrika sy proffesionele gemeenskap. And so South-Africa looses its proffesional community forever. Good luck people.

      digger.dighead - 2012-10-25 20:58

      I take back some of my comments about our current leaders....there are a few that realy see the big picture and know what the real problems are. Please continue with your open mind thinking.

  • Lacrimose - 2012-07-28 22:55

    ANC is in a quagmire, trying to be all things to all people whilst forgetting the very people they swear they love, believe in and represent. They must get the Olympic (if not the Guinness) record for the most talks, speeches and policies produced with the least tangible outcome. In fact if they shut up for a week, I'm sure the global warming crisis would reduce by 70%

  • nketso.kgwadi - 2012-07-28 22:56

    Don't like privatisation but believe that in this country its better if we implement it as we have inept government officails who will steal the money for their personal gain

  • Avesh Athmanand - 2012-07-28 23:13

    One politician calling foul at others ? Bet the people will still be forgotten when any new party happens to govern SA. People are tired talks and promises !!! TIME TO DELIVER TO ALL SOUTH AFRICANS !!!

  • mantsho.tlali - 2012-07-28 23:36

    Who cares. let (ANC) them destroy so the people could wake up and vote with their brains, look at the way DA is fihgting for this youth to get Youth Wage Subsidy, but l tell YOU when elections comes they will be going after Cancer Party to vote for it. ANC the more is still in power the more chaos continue.

      dexter.morganson - 2012-07-28 23:56

      They have it the wrong way around, it's the opposition party that is in power. Every good idea laid out by others gets slammed by the ruling party. They haven't come up with an original forward thinking idea since they took power way back in '94. They opposed Government back then (opposition) and they've kept that up until now, still being the opposition. They stand against EVERYTHING that can help this country for the better(Even if a little better).

  • keith.ngobeni - 2012-07-29 00:13

    ANC destroy south Africa so that your illiterate masses would used their peanut brains during the election times not their ignorance, I dislike this barbaric mentality which says it's ok for south Africa to get destroyed by the ANC because it's a black movement, said by some ANC supporters.

  • trevor.roberts.148 - 2012-07-29 00:16

    Wonderfull policy. Look at the state of the vast number of farms that have been redistributed. Does it remind anyone of Zimbabwe??.

  • Gaby - 2012-07-29 00:58

    One cannot be half communist and half capitalist. Just PICK one so we can all get on with it!

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-07-29 01:03

    The problem with the ANC is that like the ostrich with it's head in the sand the ANC has it's head up it's own ass !! They have no idea..dumb sh*ts !!

  • BulletProof. - 2012-07-29 01:07

    I like to know what they are doing right.

      Lacrimose - 2012-07-29 01:16

      They write great polices which is what they peddle to the rest of the world. The rest of the world is too busy to ask the people who live here what they can do with their policies.

  • sisa.mtwana - 2012-07-29 02:16

    We don't need this investors , they are here to take the riches in our country. Business people don't have our interest at heart, they are all about making more money for themselves. Give the Land to the people. The people of God should pray and save our souls. Not be on the side of investors, but of the truth and the light of God.

      Lacrimose - 2012-07-29 02:27

      Do you know what an investor is?

      thomas.obrian.92 - 2012-07-29 05:35

      sisa, you are not very bright, as lacrimose says, 'do you know what an investor is'? The entire South African infrastructure and ll your mod-cons of your present day living are the fruits of investors and colonial pioneers.

      keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-07-29 07:04

      Yes, give the land to the people, and each of us will get One 50 millionth part of the country. Fat lot of good that will do us.

      keith.roberts.98434 - 2012-07-29 07:07

      And, of course, the Zuma family will get lots of shares because Pres Zuma has about 27 wives and children.

      charmaine.paterson1 - 2012-07-29 07:33

      Perhaps it could be like a Monopoly game and we could all receive the same starting amount from the Reserve Bank? This ignorance of finance is one of the biggest problems this country faces. The ANC deliberately misleads the populace by promising wealth for all.

      terence.wessels - 2012-07-29 07:35

      This is such a stupid comment I'm speechless. Go to Zim if you wanna see a country with no investors. You probably walk around with your mouth open and your one pupil is bigger than the other.

      iceman196 - 2012-07-29 08:04

      and who will feed you retard, go back to basic woodwork school and learn something, if possible

      kennyhubbard - 2012-07-29 08:31

      sisa, You do make at least 1 valid point. Let us take emotions and race out of this for a moment and try put forth a valid argument..... You are quite right when you say investors do not care about you, and nor should they....this is the nature of capitalism. But to think you can get away without them is a mistake. Owning a piece of land is actually meaningless unless you build something on it to generate income, or you mine it for minerals, or you plant crops. In any one of these cases, you have to consider where the money is going to come from. Yes, it come from investors. Investors are the people that take a risk and for that they get a benefit. They also generate jobs, which in turns provides people with money. The idea of planting crops purely for subsidence has gone out the window as unsustainable for the larger community, so you would need to sell your crops to somebody. Your buyer ultimately are the people who have jobs created by investors. I could go on providing numerous examples but I think you will get the point that owning a piece of land is only part of complex bigger picture. Now if God answers your prayers, he will send you some investors.....he is not going to feed you directly by sending manna from heaven like he did(suposedly) in the bible.

      perskie.preston - 2012-07-29 10:00

      its so sad some people are plain stupid. I never thought I'd comment on someones comment but this is a disgrace, firstly the phone u using is because someone thought it be generous to invest on u by giving u a pitiful job but still ur black ass doesn't see that and I don't see where God fits in in all this, if praying was a way forward do u think ANC would be where it is today? Then again I guess its by Gods doing that u had to post such a comment so we can all see what kind of future the poor kids in limpopo n the eastern cape are bound to have after the ur rightful owners of this country decided its in their best interest that those kids don't get proper education. I bet if that double headed president of urs was to read ur comment he'd be glad his misfortune are working.

      sisa.mtwana - 2012-07-29 11:30

      Thanks to everyone for you comments, some very good and informative and some not. Firstly I would like to say I know what an investor is and I meant to say foreign investors and also not all foreign investors are bed. But there are those foreign investors who bribe they way into lucrative contracts in the country, So they can suck money out of this country for many years to come.Some of these Foreign investors want to pay lower wage than they would pay in their countries of origin. There are many examples I could site. Mainly what I'm saying is we don't need investors how are not willing to work in partnership with the people of this country, be it foreign or domestic investment. I still say that the land should be given back to the Disposed African people and yes along commercial farming. My the Lord bless you all this Sunday and give you all peace and Love .

      sisa.mtwana - 2012-07-29 13:21

      meant to say the people should farm along side commercial farmers

      DaveG1948 - 2012-07-29 17:34

      I am amazed by two things, neither of which is Sisa'a apparent ignorance, which is very different from stupidity. Sisa is ignorant, not stupid. Firstly, I am appalled by the overt racism of the comments. Would you stand face to face with Sisa and call him all those names? I am infinitely more frightened of the comments by people who lay into the person, not his ideas. Let us start with the idea that nobody contributing to this blog is stupid and continue with that they are sensitive human beings. Sisa I commend your constraint in your reply to these racists and BOY, is racism STUPID! Secondly, what most of the advocates for land redistribution without compensation neglect to mention is that by far the largest holder of land in the country is Traditional Authorities (ie so-called communal land tenure.) The apartheid-created chiefs who control this land run a favouritism and serfdom system to allocate land to curry political favour (and vice versa)that is brutal (murders in Mpumalanga) and keeps the 'subjects' in a constant state of fear and inertia as they fear they may lose their land if they do not obey the chief. If all communal land was released to the people who occupy it, there would be an instant explosion of job-creation amongst the roughly 20 million rural and semi-rural people who live on communal land and who make up at least 80% of the poor, because they would be able to access capital. Look at what happened in Soweto when this was implemented.

  • MrSerenador - 2012-07-29 02:37

    "BEE, from the ACDP’s perspective, facilitates self-enrichment of the politically connected, especially as the ANC is both referee and player," Meshoe the youth wage subsidy, however it will need responsible and coherent should be linked to training and certification." teaching be made an essential service and remuneration of teachers be bench-marked on international norms and standards. "Teachers must be given the facilities and tools they need to teach effectively. Those responsible for negligence or sabotage must be held accountable and prosecuted."I full agree with the above suggestions and comments.Molweni sizwe Somthonyama,uyazibulisela uZizi kodwa ke ebeka icala ubuyebumnandini.

  • Thobile Lugwadu - 2012-07-29 03:00

    The ANC is a broad church. An umbrella body. They party of choice for the masses. It is a party that is currently in wrong hands , but people will never abandon it because it has given them a voice, the power of X and free movement. All doomsayers shall eat their humble pies, the ANC lives among the majority that our masters tried to exterminate.

      nsinovich - 2012-07-29 05:29

      Thobile - If the ANC is in the wrong hands, like you say, then the voice you say represents the voice that people have been given, is the wrong voice as well. Therefore the power of X you are using to elects the wrong people and the wrong voice. The word party means a group of people. So you are electing the wrong group of people, just because you want the original ANC ideals, which this party has forgotten and scrapped.

      scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-29 07:14

      The "X" denotes the marked questions on the school exam papers of the majority?? The free movement to do what, wonder around unemployed all day every day? I agree with the "church" part, with the head who thinks they are God and strikes down anyone who should disagree with him. The way the ANC are going with land reform there will be nothing else left to eat besides humble pie!

      rob.bayliss.94 - 2012-07-29 08:30

      Thobile: Ideals and dreams can distract your mind for a while but eventually your body will force you to recognise that you are hungry. Food comes from development and effort, not from ideals, rhetoric and interminable planning meetings with no actions.

      kaz.hse.7 - 2012-07-29 09:28

      Alvin, do us all a favor and ask for a refund on the grant money you spent to receive an education, you failed your parents in being unable to form actual words.

      el.torro.509 - 2012-07-29 15:49

      You obviously haven't read your african history, most independence parties only last 40 years, the ANC is already replicating many of the mistakes. Ignore history at your peril

  • richard.zanner - 2012-07-29 06:56

    We all know this except for the ANC off course.

      Wally Walters - 2012-07-29 09:03

      This government cares about nothing else but enriching themselves and families are the people of this country so blind

  • scebberish.umfazi - 2012-07-29 07:04

    (ACDP) said the two issues were scaring away investors who might be interested in the country. WRONG!!!! The two things scaring away foreign investors are; 1) The ANC/ANCYL 2) AA/BEE

  • charl.deswardt - 2012-07-29 07:12

    in total agreement,

  • mullervince - 2012-07-29 07:38

    Well, the ANC is the only party in the world with Communist alliances. So what is the ANC actually standing for?? Democracy or communism. Both, cause alone their just a name. That's why this country is in such a mess, but these idiots believe the country is better off prior 94. Anyone of them want to challenge me on a open facts debate on TV????

  • derrico.heus - 2012-07-29 07:45

    This is the usual silly nonsense. The anc have no real poilcies. They are not thinkers or planners, and certainly don't know how to be a democratic government. The people who are chosen to fill the most important government posts are best suited for far more menial tasks. They are incapable of doing the job they have been given. Especially as most government posts are filled as favours and not filled on merit. Let's stop talking about the anc as if they are a real government. They are chancers, liars, thieves, and really not very smart. History will condemn them into the ever growing bigger dustbin of failed african governments.

  • patrick.saunders123 - 2012-07-29 07:49

    don't worry, it's all an election ploy. The ignorant masses will get screwed again once they cast their vote for the Great Liars.

  • fhatuwani.rambau.7 - 2012-07-29 08:42

    Issues around land, geographical naming and renaming of features, mines will always remain a hotly contested terrain by affected parties. Those who are opposed to changes will make sure that they cling on an unearned privilege and block any development which does work on their favor. And those who really need change will fight to attain and retain their dignity. My position is that these issues must be non negotiable as it has never been negotiated from the beginning.

      hein.huyser - 2012-07-29 15:50

      I personally do not stand to gain if the mines are nationalised or not (directly) But I also understand that investment in one sector of the economy "sponsors and supports" othr sectors. Like it or not, we need foreighn investors woth their dollars and pounds to make the economy grow. If done properly all can benefit,, if not all will suffer. Most people call for responsible decisions regarding these matters, proven recipes that have worked. Unfortunately, the communist agendas have failed everywhere in the wotld. That is why we do nog and can nog trust that system. We are now free from the old National Party, but agree with me or not, we are far from free. The anc policies have failed all of us so far. What we need is a new dispensation that makes economic participation really open and free for all. That is the only way all of us can benefit

  • Michael - 2012-07-29 08:44

    Why doesn't the A.C.D.P. join forces with the D.A.? Maybe then they will be taken seriously. We need to form a stronger alliance against the A.N.C.

      nsinovich - 2012-07-29 09:01

      They could but ACDP adhere to some Christian principles. Abortion being murder, but DA allow members to support it or not according to their own conscience. Not sure why ACDP use the term Democratic as this is unacceptable/against the rulership of one king, Jesus Christ.

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-07-29 09:12

    Since when has comrade Two Bob taken over the ANC? Turn prime farmland into dustbowls? Incur massive food shortages! Decimate the economy through importation of staple food? Hunger stirs anger. Anger creates civil uprising. This delivers a new political order. Time for change!

      Nqobile Khakhatha - 2012-07-29 12:01

      Naidoo..during apartheid the hierarchy was 1. Whites 2. Indians 3. Coloured 4.Blacks. by the looks of things you gained favourably and now you are also BEE, AA, Previously disadvantaged..etc. I can understand your lack of understanding the plight of the majority impoverished black masses.

      BulletProof. - 2012-07-29 19:16

      That's what is about to happen.

  • Vince.York - 2012-07-29 10:04

    The ANC has had it's chance and FAILED MASSIVELY at an unaffordable ZAR90Bill per anum loss. Try a change, and get the opposition which has seriously good checks and balances in every level of policy and productive activity and make more than just a position for yourself as a real South African, but also give your children a future with good promise and high level of opportunity as well as long term benefits along with it too. There is a perfectly adequate shadow government of your own brothers and sisters, fathers and mothers in the DA already and you will be pleasantly surprised. 10-20 years of DA fixing the wrongs and putting real progress for all into motion will take SA back up to the top. The ANC was a struggle organisation, has done it's job, and now has been hijacked by some communist creeps that are taking you all for a ride worse than all others. Let the ANC rest in history as the accomplished "Struggle Party" with pride in likes of Mandela, AND NOT become the "Failed Struggling Partytime Party" under inconsequential spearing herder thieves collapsed quicker than even zanu-pf handbooks directions called for.

  • millionwatts1 - 2012-07-29 10:36

    ACDP and its 500 voters!

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-07-29 14:27

    On the land issue, why take away the farmers land if that farm is productable. You dont cut a main artery that feeds the body. Government has lots of land that they can start giving the people for starters. Another thing, if the billions and I mean billions that government has lost through fraud and corruption could be repaid just imagine how happy the poor would be today. Land is no good if you dont do something productive with it, to use the land just to sh-t on and that is what has happened in zimbabwe, what the use of that. Those of you that are hell bent on getting land through land grab will cut off your noses to spite your faces when food runs out and then you will be crying to the western world to help you out the mess you got yourself in. Farming a row of mealies is not going to feed a nation.

  • riaan.roetz - 2012-10-23 08:04

    Wow, the ACDP, just summed up everything the ANC is still trying to figure out after 18 years. Too bad that they are not the ones' pulling the string around here. The ANC should rather listen to it's own people, instead of going all the way to ZIM to see how a country should not be run!

  • walter.laurie - 2012-10-23 12:00

    Secede the Western Cape - land grabs are impossible there!

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