ANC leadership tested - Phosa

2012-09-01 14:20

Johannesburg - The ANC's leadership was being tested by socio-economic realities, its treasurer general Mathews Phosa said on Saturday.

"Out of the whole Marikana saga we should be asking ourselves a simple question 'why have the workers lost faith in the legitimate authorities?," Phosa said in a speech prepared for delivery.

"Let us, as leaders, not seek the glory inherent in accentuating our differences, but rather seek the quiet triumph of building safe bridges over our differences."

Phosa said despite this the party could not ignore that it was celebrating a century of achievement.

He was talking at the handing over the African National Congress' centenary torch in Hartswater in the Northern Cape on Saturday.

Phosa said charging the mineworkers when a commission of inquiry was looking into the matter was reckless and absurd.

On 16 August, police opened fire on striking workers gathered on a hill near Lonmin's Marikana mine, in North West, killing 34 of them and wounding 78.

A group of 270 miners were arrested and charged with public violence.

On Thursday, the National Prosecuting Authority (NPA) announced they would also face murder and attempted murder charges for the deaths of their colleagues.

Political destiny

The NPA's contentious decision was questioned on Friday.

Justice Minister Jeff Radebe said he would seek clarity on the reasons for the move, while legal experts and political parties roundly condemned the decision.

Phosa said the consequences of charging the miners at this time was "too ghastly to contemplate".

"We don't need another Marikana. We need cool heads to prevail," he said.

South Africa urgently needed to move towards civilian control of the police service as envisaged by the Convention for a Democratic SA.

Phosa said the ANC had reached its political destiny.

"We are in control of our present and of our future. We are in a position to shape our environment in such a way that no one can ever say that ours was a flame that burnt in vain," he said,

It was the ANC's job to keep the flame burning for its children and their children who could benefit from the party's efforts.

"To do that we must utilise the power in our hands, the power of government, to change lives, and create hope, wealth and jobs," said Phosa.

  • tin.can.501598 - 2012-09-01 14:31

    Why not consider that giving money and power to government is like giving whiskey and car keys to teenage boys....Look within and you shall find your answers !

      jaysonpaul.beckwith - 2012-09-01 15:19

      Phoza should lay off the pooza abit.

      francois.smith.7 - 2012-09-01 15:24

      I think the problem is with your ill application of the word "legitimate". Sure by the law of the land, the ANC may rule, but that does not make you legitimate. If you would have rules by following all the laws and laid it down to everyone equally, including Zuma, you could have claim legitimacy.

      ianon.ym - 2012-09-01 15:43

      Test - What Leadership !?

      colin.dovey - 2012-09-01 15:44

      The worst thing the ANC has done, is to "deploy" cadres (lackeys) - each person should be VOTED in by the constituency they represent in Parliament, and be responsible to them. If they don't do what they are being paid to do, then they are voted out. We need to re-write parts of our constitution - and that needs a Codesa 3 Trouble is, the present set-up suits the "pig in the trough" mentality.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-09-01 17:31

      100 years of Struggle to get their mitts on the country. A mere 18yrs to p it all away.

  • jerry.medina.756 - 2012-09-01 14:35

    ANC is a protectionist, money laundering racket. The plight of black people was long forgotten by these stupid traitors. South Africa has no leadership, period.

  • B.b. - 2012-09-01 14:39

    We have fought for Liberation and claimed it. So now we must focus on deploying peeople who r capable in stimulating the economy of the country, not just any cadre. The NPA must do justice to the public

      johan.vanhoff - 2012-09-01 15:30


  • ray.stride - 2012-09-01 14:40

    Well done Matthews, they are being tested. As usual they are also failing these tests.

  • john.pope.75491 - 2012-09-01 14:41

    Mr Phosa, you are not a police man, don’t try to be one by speaking ill of what you don’t understand. I think the police are trying to work out who shot the miners in their backs. The mob may have shot their comrades in the back, and not the police. Only once the forensic tests have been done, can they determine who shot who. At the moment, it is assumed that it was just the police...but we will see..Until then, keep them locked up, or the real killers may/will disappear, never to be found, and the police will be blamed forever..Think about that Mr Phosa PS...Happy Birthday..

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-09-01 14:58

      I think most of us have seen video evidence of the cops shooting the rioters, and it does not take a brain surgeon to conclude that quite a few of the rioters were shot in the back. But ja, they killed 10 people in the lead up to their uncontrolled charge on the SAPS, and they must not be allowed to get away with that. I think its good they are charged for crimes they are suspected of comitting. I don't blame the SAPS for reacting in self defence, they got a bit carried away though - I guess fear causes that in humans, remember Sharpville.

  • shirley.steenkamp - 2012-09-01 14:41

    Never ceases to amaze me how so many people are pacified by endless,useless talk! They have thrown the "people" to the wolves long ago,whilst they continue to enrich themselves!

      sandy.langenstrass - 2012-09-01 16:33

      shirley....the single worst thing the anc have done, has been to enrich themselves while the people they promised to bring out of poverty have not seen this promise come true.The second thing the anc have done is to shield those ministers who have been caught RED HANDED doing corruption. The last thing is the talk and speeches they give once again saying things will be different....their hopes are raised, just to be dashed AGAIN. The anc have caused miss trust...and once that's extremely difficult to get it's to late...18/19 years too late...NO ONE can trust them.... One would have been prepared to give the anc sometime to organize, and make their structured plans (which would have needed serious commitment and controlled planning)...but they instead made plans to get rich as quick as possible for themselves....EXPECT THE ANGER OF THE PEOPLE..

  • madise.paul - 2012-09-01 14:42

    We know well of these talkings, like the one said by Mbeki: I AM AN AFRICAN!!! These cheap sugarised talkings won't lead us anywhere!

      nathaniel.kgokong.3 - 2012-09-01 15:26

      So true

  • tobydt - 2012-09-01 14:45

    The leadership was tested, and found wanting.

      Chumscrubber1 - 2012-09-01 15:02

      It seems perhaps there was not much leadership to test in the first place. Phosa is now a very very wealthy man. Perhaps a connection to being a top dude in the ANC rather than due to astute business acumen. I don't look up to any of these guys with their constant empty waffle about this or that. None of them stand out as good leaders to me.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-09-01 17:33

      Some of them were nowhere to be found 7 days after the fact

  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-01 14:46

    Mr Phosa,you r a rational indivividual The struggle for the freedom charter, constitution and human rights is being undermined by the unjust detention of these miners.But the scary reality is the chaos brewing due to the growing vacuum in leadership.

  • sean.bagley.50 - 2012-09-01 14:55

    "ANC leadership tested" and found to be incompetent.Can we now have a similar peaceful negotiation out of power by the ANC like the National Party did between 1990-1994?

  • rocky.bell.927 - 2012-09-01 14:56

    Phosa's siding with Foolius Dilemma made me lost all respect for him ..... even if he is so "fond" of writing Afrikaans poems. A wolf in sheeps clothing. Snake!!!! (sorry snakes!!)

  • mike.clery - 2012-09-01 15:01

    "ANC leadership" is an oxymoron.

      rocky.bell.927 - 2012-09-01 15:04

      throw the "oxy" away and add an "s" - that is closer to the truth!!!

  • bhekubaba.mawelela - 2012-09-01 15:08

    Maturedly,Educatedly,Astitutely said my President....can we put words to practise....Wat is within d structure dat holdback all u pronouncing....D nation seems not know wer we r going or wer we shall be in 50 years...We need change of mindset n application...lets stand up to d future..with timeline...Amandla !

      johan.vanhoff - 2012-09-01 15:36


      rocky.bell.927 - 2012-09-01 15:44

      English is not my first language (even my great grandfather came from Scotland) but this OBE English got the better of me. mawelela: "I'm totally intoxicated by vivaciousness of your benevolence"

      makenawn - 2012-09-02 17:16

      Ai wena man write simple english, not high frequency one eish!!!!

  • norman.buchalter - 2012-09-01 15:10

    Nice words, but funny how the ANC's perception of itself is so skewed, and also how they trot out such unifying statements at times which any fool can see show exactly the opposite. In fact just goes to show that they only pay lip service to their promises of a better life for all. I am hardly surprised that they are reacting with moral indignation at the charging of the miners. If they didn't, they could always be held accountable for being at best callous, and at worst be said to be behind the charges themselves by having exerted pressure behind the scenes on the NPA to take this route. It beggars belief that their leaders have really been so "blind" for years to the cries of the nation, cries calling for better governance, elimination of corruption, the cries of condemnation of cadre deployment , etc etc, and are only now "seeing the light". To my mind, this brings to the surface from the murky depths the 'real politik' which the Party faithful and their minions have sought to push, while always denying it publicly- that is, the aims and fulfillment of the National Democratic Revolution. The only way that this is achievable is through their policies of cadre deployment thereby ensuring that all institutions eventually fall under government control. This policy is very far advanced, as we know, with even the JSC and others under government control or if not yet controlled,buckling under its strong influence. So beware the words of 'wisdom' from wolves in sheeps' clothing

  • Chumscrubber1 - 2012-09-01 15:11

    If you are in control of our present and future, why not use this control to create a better life for all? Instead you guys at the helm focus all your attention on self enrichment and political power. You ignore the simple things in governance like education, health care, law and order, teaching us to be proud of our country, teaching us to be a moral people with a competitive work ethic, etc, etc. You prefer to focus on populist ideologies to keep your support base, as they deflect from your lack of focus on looking after your people. You people are false leaders, you are leading us all on a path to hell. You are on a path to been caught out for your deviousness, but by the time this happens the nation will be so confused and volatile that the damage your lack of leadership has caused my be irreparable. Hopefully you will be made to answer for your sins as well, when the time comes.

      johan.vanhoff - 2012-09-01 15:39


  • fort.horseman.7 - 2012-09-01 15:51

    An international news headline on Marikana:'South Africas post apartheid bubble burst'

  • lwazi.sibiya.10 - 2012-09-01 16:35

    One can only read comments made in this site to see how un-transformed most white people are, so the foolish dream of Mandela of reconciliation, non racial, transformed society was a lie without economic freedom. Most leaders have fallen to de Klerk's trap and now they are thinking with their stomachs.

      henk.vanrensburg.31 - 2012-09-01 17:51

      no iwazi. it is clear on this site that blacks are bigger racists than whites.

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-09-01 18:03

      What is foolish, and actually downright insulting to all South Africans, is that after all the years of struggle and generations making sacrifices to achieve democracy, we are now still struggling and fighting to get the govt of the day to do the simplest things. There seems to be no respect for the oath of office that they swore to uphold and a complete blindness as to what they think they've done compared to what we ordinary people know should be done. It cannot be right that after all this time the infrastructure is collapsing and all we get is more commissions of enquiry and policy documents and naughty people everywhere you look.

      hildegard.cilliers - 2012-09-01 18:22

      Ok Lwazi, I'll bite. Maybe not just Lwazi, anyone for that matter. Please enlighten me. What transformation of white people did you want after 18yrs? Serious discussion, folks. Not asking for free jabs at our darker skinned compatriots. If you have any snide comments, please keep them to yourself.

      tobydt - 2012-09-01 18:45

      Iwazi - Whites arent the ones that need transforming my son. Everyone is screaming about the incompetent leadership in the ANC. The architects of poverty. And yet here you are, telling us about the whites. Again, black government, but you blame the whites. What do you want whites to do? Lick the balls of the INCOMPETENT and CORRUPT ANC?! F*** off. Eish... phanzi ANC, phanzi.

      bobo.jane.1 - 2012-09-01 19:12

      Go cry me a river.... I don`t have a problem because the government is black..I have a problem because they are a bunch of leeches that only happens to be black. It`s not white peoples fault they are so stupid. But it`s white and black peoples stupidity for voting for those idiots....Now they want to test their level of stupidity...Stupid is as stupid does.

      Erna - 2012-09-01 19:16

      @Iwazi - why always take the easy way out and blame the whites? The problem is that your (black) government has only looked after themselves and a few select friends. They haven't utilised the opportunities they've had over the past 18 years to improve the conditions for the masses who loyally vote them into power time and again and who keep on believing all the empty promises. Quite frankly, I don't think they know how to tackle the numerous 'challenges' this country is facing.

      mike.clery - 2012-09-01 20:30

      Here we go again - criticism of the ANC is NOT the same as criticism of black people. If that were true, then Malema would be an un-transformed anti-black racist ......

  • Gerald Jordaan - 2012-09-01 20:55

    Phosa speaks gobbledegook !! Typical politician..says a whole lot of nothing!! Matt you are an *sswhole !!

  • cirrus11 - 2012-09-01 21:36

    "the party could not ignore that it was celebrating a century of achievement." "We are in control of our present and of our future. We are in a position to shape our environment in such a way that no one can ever say that ours was a flame that burnt in vain," What irony. And then he has to mention the the ANC celebrates 100 years - WTF !

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-09-02 01:15

    anc/leadership ! Two word that shouldn't be used in the same sentence ! By the way, what do they know about socio-economic woes? They are fatcats with bulging pockets ! The only woeful beings are their supporters/voters! The electorate needs to wake up !

  • bless.boswell - 2012-09-02 07:07

    The ANC should be celebrating 100 years of existence only, for the past 18 years they have achieved nothing to gloat about. They have shown that their leadership is tantamount to putting the fox in charge of the henhouse.

  • sarel.brits - 2012-09-02 07:53

    I have great respect for the man he has taken the time learn my language and I think he can only do better than the current op of “leaders” just a thought or 2: 1, Why inter fear in the prosecution of the Miners if they committed murder it will have to be proven in court. 2 Can you still consider the socioeconomic disaster a test especially as its mostly of your doing. 3, How can you demilitarise the police if society and especially unions are militant and armed to the teeth.

  • john.lonsdale.5 - 2012-09-02 09:00

    Create hope and wealth, not steal it?

  • juanroux.greyling - 2013-02-25 13:42

    "All animals are equal, some animals are just more equal than others" That is the slogan of South Africa. We are not governed by a leading, authoritative and empathetic government. Everyone struggled together, but as soon as power was handed to the "leaders', they became greedy and selfish, not worrying about even the very people that fought right next to them to "freedom". SA isn't getting any better, because the people that are complaining are still making their X next to the same Party that causes their freedom to be wasted away. I don't think we even know what the word "Freedom" means.

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