ANC members in fight at conference

2012-07-02 11:46

Johannesburg - North West ANC delegates had a physical fight on the last day of the party's national policy conference, spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said on Monday.

A North West African National Congress member was addressing the plenary session on Friday when another delegate tried to stop him, Mthembu said.

"One of the delegates grabbed the [microphone] from that person and a scuffle ensued... a scuffle ensued between two or four people. It was a physical fight," he said.

Mthembu said the delegates had also fought about who was representing the North West at the four-day policy conference held at Gallagher Estate, in Midrand, Johannesburg.

The ANC's national executive had to step in after five provincial executive committee (PEC) members were removed a week before the policy conference.

ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said national officials declared invalid and unconstitutional the removal of provincial chairperson Supra Mahumapelo, treasurer Philly Mapolane, deputy provincial secretary Gordon Kegakilwe, spokesperson Kenny Morolong and PEC member Matthew Wolmarans.

The PEC was divided over several issues.

Mthembu said one North West delegate was kicked out of the conference.

"All those involved will be subjected to disciplinary measures," he said.

These would be handled by the ANC national executive.

Mthembu said five people with fraudulent accreditation tags had also been found at the conference.

This was reported to the police and two of the five people were arrested.

"When there is an event as big as this one was, some people try to take a chance... but we were well prepared," said Mthembu.

Apart from these incidents the conference was a "runaway success", he said.

  • chris.cunning.14 - 2012-07-02 11:52

    Runaway success. HAHA. Having a physical fight is something that happens in primary school. Not with grown ups running the country, sorry.

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 11:57

      Flying fists is not alien in parliament of one of the most powerful economies in the world, China. That piece of info should assist to enlighten your narrow and subjective view on issues?

      smili.fication - 2012-07-02 11:59

      China? You are a fool. They dont have fights in their parliament. YOU MEAN TAIWAN. *Shakes his head at people trying to be smart.

      jackal666.daniel - 2012-07-02 12:02

      Nice starting a Monday off with a laugh!

      Henk - 2012-07-02 12:02

      China! So they even now wants to model their conferences the same way as the new Baas does? Amazing!

      Jaco - 2012-07-02 12:03

      Ah, so because China is doing it it’s ok then? Great logic there. See that is the difference between mature sensible people and you. Just saying – not expecting you to understand it.

      Gerald - 2012-07-02 12:06

      @ Azande. They were fighting each other, not members of other parties. Im not so confident in the leadership abilities of this troop of Ladies and Gentlemen

      Provence - 2012-07-02 12:09

      Fighting is success for the ANC why would you think otherwise

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 12:12

      @jaco, u surely lost the gist...let me help u, chris thinks its only primary school children who fight, not grown ups (politicians)...hope it helps. @Smilie, does that correction make a difference to the point made? your EGO is surely boosted by that correction you made. Poor little thing HAHAHAHAHA

      Sharon - 2012-07-02 12:17

      this is what happens when too many dogs gather ot the feeding bowl

      Provence - 2012-07-02 12:21

      Azande, i see you have no problem with this kind of behavior? No further comment required!

      Jaco - 2012-07-02 12:23

      Azande... Haha, I told you not to try and understand it. Being grown up doesn’t make you mature and sensible. Age doesn’t always equal coherent. (case in point). Hope it helps (but I doubt it).

      smili.fication - 2012-07-02 12:23

      I dont have a "boosted" ego... I was just not taught in woodworking class dumba$$. ANd here is another correction for you. China has one of the worst economies in the world. They just have plenty of cheap labor... If you want to go and emulate the Chinese do so in Zimbabwe... we don't need that in a civilized country... And no Azande... most of us don't jump each other after a night out at the shebeen. SO... just STFU.

      Jono - 2012-07-02 12:24

      act right before you get smacked right!

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 12:30

      @Smilie.I like the look of your red face. keep it up.HAHAHAHAHAHA.. @Jaco, no comment...

      gerhard.kress.3 - 2012-07-02 12:36

      Zuma is finished. Helen has got it all.

      Jaco - 2012-07-02 12:39

      Azande, I must apologize for my stupid comments. Insults will not get us anywhere. My point is just that it is very frustrating to see this kind of behaviour in parliament. These people is supposed to be role models for us and have our best interest at heart. Instead they are fighting each other about who will be representing what. It is scary for me because it is those people who have your and my future in their apparently incapable hands.

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 12:48

      @jaco, granted. its greed and selfishness that is rife within the ANC structures. That's the unfortunate part. The good leaders are suffocated by the bad lot who are intending to loot the resources before their time is up in leadership... Hard and scary fact.

      scouter.fourone - 2012-07-02 13:13

      I personally lay the blame for all this unfortunate disharmony on Satan ..........

      mbambo.shi - 2012-07-02 13:50

      @ Azande, you're simple impliying that ANC is a copy-cat of the ChiNA parliamentarily infighting??. To expand your IQ, in the parliament, China fights because they represents different view as they're from different parties. ANC members having to wrestling each other, that's hue turmoil.

      melania.nel - 2012-07-02 14:01

      @scouter... You speak the words of a leader. I can't stop laughing.

      tgif.wtfaw - 2012-07-02 14:19

      Runaway Success, Well done Jackson dish out a extra bag of peanuts to all the delegates. Not the ones in the fist fight or the one caught for drunken driving !

      chris.cunning.14 - 2012-07-02 15:36

      @Azande: My comment implies that they can act a little more mature than getting into a fist fight. I place the same comment to the people in China. Closed mind or not, wrong and immature is still wrong and immature. As a matter of principle one doesn't get into a fist fight. Is that what our leaders want to teach our children? Is that the image we want to project to the rest of world (excluding china, how act the same)? I surely hope this is not the type of behavior you encourage Azande.

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 17:57

      not at all Chris. I dont promote that behaviour.

  • smili.fication - 2012-07-02 11:53

    I hope they knock sense into each other! DOnt vote ANC, if they treat each other like that, they will treat you like an animal and treat themselves to your money! VIVA DA!! VIVA COPE!! VIVA DEMOCRACY!

      smili.fication - 2012-07-02 13:27

      They "restricted" the press. More censorship by the ANC... What a shame. If you lambast the country with your dirty propaganda through SABC... THE LEAST YOU COULD DO FOR THE INTELLIGENT FOLK IS TOO SHOW US THE GOOD STUFF!

      mark.tunstall.18 - 2012-07-03 12:37

      Err, Alica...that would be "Black Eyes"

      mark.tunstall.18 - 2012-07-03 12:39

      @ Alicia .. there were also a room full of "Brown Eyes"

  • elkita.robbertse - 2012-07-02 11:56

    Hahahahahaha.Don't stop there.Kill each other..The conferenca was not a success with all that fighting.As they say bad genes is terrible.You are all a shame to this country.Sis.

      mihaip007 - 2012-07-02 12:25

      hey don't worry about that one - one of them go killed mafia style, so I think you are not that far off with your wishes HAHAHA

  • marion.friedenthal - 2012-07-02 11:58

    M0er mekaar.

      glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-02 12:11

      Marion! Keep the discussion civilized! But we do get your drift!

      devon.riley.52 - 2012-07-02 14:47

      moor mekaar uit, sluit hulle toe in n hok met vuur wapens

      mark.tunstall.18 - 2012-07-03 12:42

      @devon.riley.52 and give them a trunk full of booze, that will sort it out comprehensively.

  • azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 11:59

    They must be disciplined.

      Henk - 2012-07-02 12:03

      The ANC does not know the meaning of the word!

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 12:13

      and they disciplined Malema, Shiceka, Cele etc. What's your point?

      Henk - 2012-07-02 12:16

      No they did not! They are not in jail are they know? They have been moved sideways!!!

      Sharon - 2012-07-02 12:19

      those were the disiplined ones - ha ha ha

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 12:23

      @henk, do you the difference between "fact and claim"? HAHAHAHAHA

      smili.fication - 2012-07-02 12:26

      Azande.. you make no sense. How embarrassing. :(

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 12:34

      @Smilie, i wasn't expecting to make any sense to you. u understandably one of your kind.

      smili.fication - 2012-07-02 13:24

      Sharon - I only got that now... I LOLOLOLOT! Azande- There a time and a place you should just not say anything. Post things about the ANC... just dont attack people on this forum.

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 14:20

      @Smilie, please accept my apologies, an attack indeed doesn't bring anything positive.

      smili.fication - 2012-07-02 14:31


      chris.cunning.14 - 2012-07-02 15:39

      @Azande: they must be disciplined indeed.

  • mastersvoice - 2012-07-02 12:00

    All is not well in the ANC! The vultures are starting to realise the corpse is nearly depleted, so they're fighting each other for the scraps...

  • maseratifittipaldi - 2012-07-02 12:03

    Do you think they fought each other to be first to deliver services to the people or to be first at the feeding trough?

      Ally - 2012-07-02 13:18

      Excellent point.

  • Henk - 2012-07-02 12:03

    Wonder if it was a real fight or just some beach slapping!

      henry.bosman.5 - 2012-07-02 12:30

      Do a search on "venda boxing",if the fight was anything like that it is no suprise these clowns used to get a hiding to nothing from the good old SADF

  • bomb.technician.5 - 2012-07-02 12:03


  • richard.zanner - 2012-07-02 12:03

    Seems like a scene from National Geo graphics with a bunch of Hyenas fighting over a carcass. Why do these people not understand that the money pot is rapidly drying out and then they either have to earn it themselves or starve like the rest of Africa.

  • melania.nel - 2012-07-02 12:05

    And so the struggle continues...

  • Gerald - 2012-07-02 12:06

    @ Azande. They were fighting each other, not members of other parties. Im not so confident in the leadership abilities of this troop of Ladies and Gentlemen

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 12:16

      Surely fighting in an organization is prohibited, you should agree to that one.

      Irene - 2012-07-02 12:17

      Ladies and gentlemen?

  • Provence - 2012-07-02 12:08

    Please report on stuff we don't know. This is everyday life in the ANC. Why should this hit news headlines. Please report on something that we need to read not rubbish like this.

  • Alberto - 2012-07-02 12:08

    & you lot are running the country!? Bunch of freaking JOKES!

  • kindness.sweet - 2012-07-02 12:08

    wonder if mthembu was sober this time...

  • ianon.ym - 2012-07-02 12:10

    This is just the beginning - personally I would love to supply them with liters of Umqombothi through in some knopkerries with the words, Let The Best Man Win - then stand back and have a good laugh - What Morons ...

      azande.futhi - 2012-07-02 12:20

      HAHAHAHAHA that is funny when you visualise it....HAHAHAHAHAHA

  • Provence - 2012-07-02 12:11

    ...and yes the majority will still VOTE YES...what a bunch of .......fill in your favorite saying.

  • glyn.morgan.96 - 2012-07-02 12:12

    Ever seen the old Three Stooges movies? Look familiar?

  • gavin.lott.9 - 2012-07-02 12:12

    So let me get my head around this.. a brawl & one ANC dude shot dead after the conference...If that's a "run away" success I'm intrigued to see what a failure to them would be!?!?

      corne.coetzee.92 - 2012-07-02 12:34

      Isn't a "run away" those half cooked chicken feet you buy at the corner store?

      keith.f.murphy - 2012-07-03 12:20

      No Gavin a runaway hit and run with the microphone the idiots has no shame they are becoming a disgrace to the human race

  • chris.heiberg - 2012-07-02 12:14


  • deon.rossouw.56 - 2012-07-02 12:15

    Give them guns

      TiisetsoMaloma - 2012-07-02 12:42


      alon.fisher.752 - 2012-07-03 11:03

      Not Necessary,They got the Blue light brigade LOL!!!

  • Provence - 2012-07-02 12:15

    ...yes this is what you vote for....40 million rand to organize a dronk fiasco... and nothing jobs....high crime.....and a 2 billion something jet for the fat tribal leader...welcome to ANC disney land.

      reg.nagel - 2012-07-02 12:34

      love it .MR,Poppies

  • DJPotifar - 2012-07-02 12:21


  • daniel.motlhatlhedi - 2012-07-02 12:21

    Get rid of those fools fast fast.

      antin.herinck - 2012-07-02 14:59

      There will be none left. But forward your suggestion to the ANC anyway.

  • Jono - 2012-07-02 12:24

    act right before you get smacked right!

  • desmond.joshua2 - 2012-07-02 12:37

    animals,don't feel sorry for those suckers

  • magomarele - 2012-07-02 12:42

    These guys are a laughing stock...period!

  • sarel.koen - 2012-07-02 12:43

    The African fight is traditionally with an Okapi knife?

      wbroli - 2012-07-03 13:55

      Or they fight over the last quart in the shabeen.

  • moi.carla.1980 - 2012-07-02 12:43

    Hmmm...and how much of our tax money went into this "runaway success"???

  • victor.windsor - 2012-07-02 12:44

    Savages in pierre cardin suits !!!!!!

  • - 2012-07-02 12:53

    And these are the people who 34expect respect and promise good governance. God help us all.

  • - 2012-07-02 12:55

    En toe bliksem hulle mekaar ne'. Africa, oh Africa.

  • dhavandran.palavar - 2012-07-02 13:00

    when democracy is not respected the next step is anarchy.

  • stevie0064 - 2012-07-02 13:03

    Eish! Too much phuza!

  • Peggy Tebogo Mona - 2012-07-02 13:09

    ag nothing new and to some people this is a joke 2 dam ...people are we really dis lost.

  • Stephen Radebe - 2012-07-02 13:10

    African national congress delegates has a physical fight on the last day of the party's national policy conference.when democracy is not respected the next step is anarchy.

  • wilhelm.grobbelaar - 2012-07-02 13:11

    Yea, I can see how "well prepared" they were.

  • Jandl Reevo Reeves - 2012-07-02 13:11

    What do you expect From clowns

  • TheVern69 - 2012-07-02 13:14

    Gottà Love it!

  • thulanit3 - 2012-07-02 13:14

    If ever there is anything that will bring the anc down,,,it would be leadership squabbles, fraud and corruption!

  • Shaun - 2012-07-02 13:15

    And I see your true colors shining through - I see your true colors shining true.....

  • ndavha.kwinda - 2012-07-02 13:19

    No peace at the zoo!

  • nigel.vanysendyk - 2012-07-02 13:25

    this is our government, fantastic, how are they going to sort out the complex social problems when they fight amongst themselves like thugs. time for the ANC to get a reality check.

  • arthur.hugh - 2012-07-02 14:01

    "I HAVE THE MICROPHONE AND YOU WILL LISTEN!" (Wedding singer) Aah the ANC way of solving disputes - just take it.

  • Albertus - 2012-07-02 14:08

    a scuffle ensued between two or four people. It was a physical fight," They can spend billions of taxpayer money, but do not know the difference between 2 and 4.

  • robert.mevo - 2012-07-02 14:10

    R40m 4 fyt.

      illuminatedj - 2012-07-04 08:22

      Lol for how many rounds

  • Sakhiwo - 2012-07-02 14:15

    Lives of innocent people will be in danger because the deniel of the ANC leadership to accept that there's a problem within the rulling party

      Sharon - 2012-07-03 16:43

      not if we all stick together

  • vernon.samuel.7 - 2012-07-02 14:26

    Credit to Jackson for admitting that there was a fight. Ordinarily these things are denied by everyone. Probably not very professional of delegates to have a fight, but we all know that some of these guys are not the shiniest coins in the piggy bank.

      antin.herinck - 2012-07-02 15:03

      Credit to him? Don't forget it was Monday morning when he said it. When he sobers up (took his regmakers) he will deny it all, say he was quoted out of context.

  • Mike Peach Purchase - 2012-07-02 14:28

    Disgraceful behaviour

  • antin.herinck - 2012-07-02 14:56

    And this Punch and Judy show runs the country? ] Pity they did not use AK 47s.