ANC members ready for day two

2012-06-27 11:08

Johannesburg - ANC members queued to get into Gallagher Estate on the second day of the party's national conference on Wednesday.

There was no repetition of Tuesday's singing as delegates set to work.

They would spend the first half of the second day in commissions discussing strategy and tactics, the second transition, and organisational renewal.

After lunch, members would split into 11 commissions to discuss the ANC's other policy documents.

On Tuesday, President Jacob Zuma, who is also the ANC's leader, said the party needed a radical shift in policy to address poverty, unemployment and inequality.

The "second transition" had to focus on social and economic transformation in the next 30 to 50 years, he told about 3 500 delegates.

He reassured South Africans that the plight of those without land would be addressed without changing the Constitution.

In the lead-up to the conference, there had been calls for a change to Section 25 of the Constitution, which refers to property rights, and sets out conditions for the expropriation of land with compensation.

Zuma said the real economy was still mainly in the hands of white men, and that this needed to be addressed soon.

The ANC's national policy conference is a preparatory conference for the party's elective conference, to be held in Mangaung in December.

  • Michael - 2012-06-27 11:29

    What time is lunch?

      Squeegee - 2012-06-27 12:08

      Just after tea, which is just after the smoke break, which...

      Schmee - 2012-06-27 12:54

      What time are they going to have their first drinks? Did they make sure they have enough Johnnie Walker Blue today?

  • Gary - 2012-06-27 11:37

    Day 2 of 'Promise Promise Promise', break for lunch, then 'Promise Promise Promise', break for tea then home by BMW 740i to mansions...and forget everything...

      nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-27 12:46

      Well said. That describes exactly what actually happens here. Then the masses fall for all the empty promises again, and SA enters into yet another period of....well, ...nothing.

  • wisani.mathonsi1 - 2012-06-27 11:41

    It seems that white shave a problem with Blacks Driving Luxury cars, is it coz they were only meant for you white people only, that now when you see a Black man driving you feel that it should have been you? Get over yourselves, you created a little lower than the Devil.

      Henk - 2012-06-27 11:48

      No idiot! It is with the money that these luxury cars are bought, that money is gained truthfully! BEE = Black excessive expenditure! And oh yes, black people are rich, hence the luxury cars. White people are wealthy...

      Gerald - 2012-06-27 12:09

      keep that Freedom dream alive Wisani, you are nearly there, just another 20 or 30 years. When you have taken over Germany you can rename the BMW and then it will be your creation

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-27 12:29

      Wisani, we have no problems with blacks driving expensive cars as long as they pay for them themselves and not expect the taxpayers to cough up the money. In your view we are created a little lower than the devil. Since that figure doesn't exist what does that say about your intelligence?.

      nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-27 12:52

      Sorry but your opinion is one of an idiot. I want Black S/Africans to do well for themselves and progress in life. This is good not bad. But stop saying Whites are rich and greedy when I'm surrounded by these massive top of the range luxury vehicles all driven by Blacks. That's not poverty my friend. And if those guys can achieve it, why can't other Black S/Africans do so instead of wanting to steal it from Whites? Are you getting the picture?

      Henk - 2012-06-27 12:54

      I am not bitter. And unlike some, I do not need to boost my Ego with a luxury car!

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-27 12:56

      Wisani, in reply to your letter to me. I speak for myself young man and not for the masses. I spend forty years in the struggle and have earned the right to speak. I worked for freedom for more years than you are old. So don't try and justify your stupidity by trying to put me in racist shoes. Go get an education and respect those who fought for your right to spew ignorance here today. Mind you since your whole diatribe is about expensive cars it is so telling isn't it?. Oh! I have received the Order of Luthuli for my struggle achievements,something you will never have. In the end you owe me and so it is.

      azande.futhi - 2012-06-27 14:33

      yawnnn.... pheuwww. u are all jokes.

  • jwarha.balakisa - 2012-06-27 11:42

    Please come out with fruitful polices, that will take this country forward.

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-27 12:32

      education,we are about to close 27schools,13already closed in Soweto! have clinics,not get panado for a runny stomach, equality,if we all not hungry,all educated and all have medictions,we are likely to all be employed. we not asking for BMW's. Fight corruption Mr Zuma,not lead it!

      azande.futhi - 2012-06-27 14:31

      The only policy that can be fruitful is the one one that would say "Stop Stealing Policy".

  • muzi.ngubane.92 - 2012-06-27 11:46

    Ludwick Marishane has won global recognition for his inventionWith inspiration from a friend too lazy to take a shower and a few months of research on the Internet, South African university student Ludwick Marishane has won global recognition for an invention that takes the water out of bathing. Marishane, a 22-year-old student at the University of Cape Town, invented a product called DryBath, a clear gel applied to skin that does the work of water and soap. The invention, which won Marishane the 2011 Global Student Entrepreneur of the Year Award, has wide applications in Africa and other parts of the developing world where basic hygiene is lacking and hundreds of millions of people do not have regular access to water. The product differs from the anti-bacterial hand washes by eliminating the heavy alcohol smell. It creates an odourless, biodegradable cleansing film with moisturizers. He came up with the idea as a teenager in his poor rural home in the winter when a friend of his said bathing was too much of a bother, made all the worse by a lack of hot water. "He was lazy and he happened to say, 'why doesn't somebody invent something that you can just put on your skin and you don't have to bathe'," said Marishane. Six months later, he came up with DryBath and a obtained a patent. The product is now manufactured commercially with clients including major global airlines for use on long-haul flights and governments for its soldiers in the field.

      andre.burrows.92 - 2012-06-27 11:57

      Is that the alcohol smell on the breath or in the handwash?

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-27 12:25

      big up to a black brother,did the government facilitate any form of sponsorship?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-27 12:32

      Muzi, much the same as the Dettol handwash then, that doesn't smell of alcohol either. I hope Dry Bath will become a complete succes.

      muzi.ngubane.92 - 2012-06-27 12:58

      @Ntuthuko: you need a mind set change broer. Gov must build schools, roads, hospitals, airports, etc.... YOU must facilitate funding for your ideas. Lets break the needy/someone must do it for me type mentality and we will go far.....

      jeffrey.jones.357 - 2012-06-27 12:58

      As I understand it, the product is not available commercially, although he has had large orders from airlines and the Singapore army (I think he said Singapore). His problem lies with the red tape in getting his company registered in SA, and he is thinking of moving to Kenya to produce the gel. He also said he dreads the day when he has to have employees in SA, because the labour laws are so prescriptive. Why do we make it so difficult for such a bright guy to prosper in SA.

  • Arnoldus.DuToit - 2012-06-27 11:48

    "Zuma said the real economy was still mainly in the hands of white men, and that this needed to be addressed soon." 1) Completely racist remark. 2) What does it matter as long as the people contribute to the economy? SA is the only country where the Majority is protected rather than the minority. In most other country's the Minority is protected. And until 2/3rds of the population stop leaning on the 1/3rd that are severely over taxed, nothing is going to help. At some point the people that work won't be able to support those that don't work and we turn into Zimbabwe Nr2.

      Henk - 2012-06-27 12:05

      Yeah beacause we have all the money idiot! Don't you listen to what your President is saying?

      Gerald - 2012-06-27 12:15

      keep dreaming jwarha.balakisa Anc is only pretending to care for you so that you will vote for them. They forgot to tell you that unless you are related or educated you are up the creek

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-27 12:20

      jwarha Balakisa, where do you come from? AVENGE????? what objective are you hoping to achieve by that? just wake up and look at the real puzzle here,the government isnt funding black education to minimize the rate of rational intellects that can challenge their corruption,lets stop at looking and blaming whites now, yes they oppressed and stole from us,its been 18years,what have our very own done for us,get rich themselves? lets get a grip or remain seated,now they wanna turn our country to a battlefield! who will own those farms wants taken? YOU?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-27 12:33

      Jwarha, talk is cheap. What people did I kill?. Fool.

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-27 12:35

      Ntutheko, that's right. Say it like it is.

      Arnoldus.DuToit - 2012-06-27 14:19

      @jwarha.balakisa I don't think you understand the word "Minority" it doesn't just include white people. Please explain where the protection was for the thousands of farmers killed? And also remember that two wrongs do not make a right.

      azande.futhi - 2012-06-27 14:42

      @Arnolus, your points are rather skewed...let me help you 1. Completely racist - No, its a fact. 2. It matters because this is a democratic country and secondly, the freedom charter advocates for wealth to be shared equitably to citizens of the country. Wealth cannot be in the hands of the minority. SA is the only country where majority is protected rather than minority? ...Now u are being ridiculous, our constitution protects every citizen equally and again, this a democratic country, the majority interest is supreme. And that has nothing to do with race. So please, use your brain objectively and fairly.

  • mzuvukile.mbanjana - 2012-06-27 11:49

    Drastic changes without changes in the constitution is a myth. JZ stop dreaming be true to yourself and to the nation.

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-27 12:15

      Mzuvukile,my main concern is,his advisory team is so unrealistic, the man even struggles to read some of the things,let alone understand,last night he denied proposing a second transition. he must just sit down

  • gieljam.gomtor - 2012-06-27 12:04

    Sorry to say but with unachievable promises that no stable economy can sustain this leadership has painted themselves into a corner from out they are not going to escape without causing untold harm to the country.

      carl.debeer.33 - 2012-06-27 12:15

      He should read our forums for his next "State of the Nation" address. In other words the truth! Instead of reading the same speech for the next ten years...

  • Richard - 2012-06-27 12:10

    All jostling to get their piece of the "Second Corruption".

  • anton.burger.16 - 2012-06-27 12:12

    Hey, Gallagher ready to wait years to get paid for the use of your venue, that is if these incompetent ANC louts ever decide to pay you!!!....LOL!!!!!

      thembekafotase.fas - 2012-06-27 13:03

      Some of ANC leaders ba shebile matshelo abone fela ga ba sheba south african members

  • anton.burger.16 - 2012-06-27 12:15

    ANC SUX!!!!!

      wisani.mathonsi1 - 2012-06-27 12:39

      DA sucks more than Steve Hofmeyers music and zilles dancing.

  • nkululeko.k.mpungose - 2012-06-27 12:29

    it is about time we make real changes on our economic policies. Freedom has be achieved, now we need to contrate on economic emancipation. I am in support for the second transtion programme.

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-27 12:34

      Mpungose,with all due respect,the spelling errors make it difficult for me to believe that you know what you saying. have the issues of the first transition been achieved?

      nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-27 12:42

      Please define economic emancipation/freedom.

      Ntuthuko M Simelane - 2012-06-27 12:44

      you allowed to google it

      deon.louw.7505 - 2012-06-27 12:46

      It is easy to change: Get an education and go to work. If you can't find work, join a MLM company or start your own small business.

      azande.futhi - 2012-06-27 14:52

      @bigchief, let me assist...its freedom from economic oppression. @Ntuthuko, with all due respect, i'm failing to get your point in here. i'm only gathering personal attack. @Deon, I'm assuming your reffering to "formal education". Education is not the ultimate instrument that can alleviate poverty and dreaming about getting a job is the worst enemy of prosperity.

  • Gavin - 2012-06-27 12:37

    The new struggle - getting out of bed to attend a mind numbing ANC conference about the second transition and what we'll be having for lunch and does my belt match my shoes ?

  • Chikane - 2012-06-27 12:54

    second transition,radical shift in policy and organisational renewal? That's mshini wakhe se non-sense__this movement requires leadership transformation period. The delegated are mum__we demand organisational restructure__but Midrand is not Mangaung_@ Mangaung you will answer you double headed dictator!

  • jwarha.balakisa - 2012-06-27 12:59

    If Boers want to influence ANC polices thy should join the organization, wait until thy are in good standing, then thy can go to the conference and came up with all these ideas that thy have. Or you can simple wait for the DA or FF Plus to win elections then change the government polices. But the last option will not happen in thy lifetime.

      tishan.pillay - 2012-06-27 13:14

      well look at ratio of blacks to non blacks on the NEC then tell me.. you can try to be a member but will you be heard. Ask Tokyo and he will tell you.. how rude and unruly people can be if they dont like what you are saying.

  • tishan.pillay - 2012-06-27 13:11

    damn 18 years and people still see black and white.. does it matter if you black or white and you drive a 750 LI or a Polo. black people are quick to jump and you mention how government officials are ripping tax payers off.. why is that.. why is the race card always played.. look at the state of your eudcation system, health care, etc.. its a mess. why not fix that before you want to claim land you didnt work for or know how to cultivate. the day people act as adults and forget about colour then this country can begin to heal

      nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-27 13:28

      100% correct. Well said. You will find most want the same things out of life in SA. The difference is how we go about achieving those goals. Some will work hard and do the best they can, others feel they have a right to just take it from others. I cannot even dream of owning a farm, I'll never have that kind of money. So, do I now go and take someone's farm just because I want it? Of course not, I carry on and with my abilities I achieve the best I can. Not gimme gimme gimme.

      nigel.burgess.52 - 2012-06-27 13:34

      Chikane - Sine you write/speak/think like a fool, I'll address you as such - What 'rightful resource' are you referring to fool? Minerals?

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