ANC must tackle land reform - Mantashe

2012-02-17 07:23

Johannesburg - The ANC cannot be a liberation movement if it does not tackle the issue of land reform, ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said on Thursday.

"The land question is at the centre of the struggle. If we raise it in the ANC some are irritated. It can't be a liberation movement that refuses to deal with the land question," he said.

Mantashe, who is also the chairperson of the SA Communist Party, was speaking at a Young Communist League meeting at the University of Witwatersrand in Johannesburg.

Compensation, skills

He said land could not just be claimed without compensation, as unskilled workers would not be able to successfully care for their land.

"When the people were dispossessed, they were also de-skilled. Land distribution must go together with a support mechanism for emerging farmers."

He said historians needed to focus on the indigenous people of South Africa.

"The first war in the country [with colonialists] left what they call the 'Khoisan Genocide'," he said.

"This left [the Khoi and San] believing they are extinct, and they say now that they are the 'coloured' people. They are the first indigenous people in Africa... they are a part of the African identity."

He said subsequent wars forced the Basotho nation into the mountains as a means of defence.

"We need to see history through the eyes of the lion. We cannot allow hunters to write the history of lions."

Historical claims

He was talking in reference to the claim made by Freedom Front Plus leader Pieter Mulder in Parliament on Wednesday.

Mulder suggested that black "Bantu-speaking" people had no historical claim to 40% of the country. "Africans in particular never in the past lived in the whole of South Africa," Mulder claimed during debate in the National Assembly on last week's State of the Nation address.

Mantashe said the ANC and SACP were both fighting different sides of the same "monster".

"We are fighting the monster at the same time. The ANC is fighting against racial exploitation and the SACP against economic exploitation."

He said both parties needed to clear themselves of members with "negative tendencies".

"It is like taking a mouse to a cheese factory, it will eat itself to death. We need to fight these tendencies wherever they are... things like corruption and the use of money to balance forces in conferences, or singing songs that are decisive.

"The ANC needs to reinforce that the only thing that is yours is your salary," he said.

  • Benmica - 2012-02-17 07:28

    If you tackle something, get the people involved to get a solution. All of them.

      TSR01 - 2012-02-17 09:01

      If you tackle something, it is better to make sure you do it at torso level, with your head down, and wrap your arms around the recipient's lower chest to ensure the tackle is efficiently executed. :) The ANC deserve a tackle - their poor sportsmanship and footwork prove that they are still amateurs in the game, 18 years later!

      Kobus - 2012-02-17 09:06

      Wonder what they have been doing since 1994 then? Involved with making money for themselves yes :(

      Ian - 2012-02-17 10:15


      carpejugulim - 2012-02-17 10:21

      Realistically speaking it takes money to make a farm productive. Please understand this has nothing to do with race but has everything to do with farming. Fertiliser going from R 100 a bag to R 600 a bag in less than a month. Eskom loading the price of electricity to farms, urban electricity is going up 25% farm electricity will go up 26%, not to mention additional monthly fees added to the elctricity accounts like line fees, pole fees, service fees (R12.45 per day), network charge(R15.20 per day) and environmental fees. Bear in mind it is very difficult to irrigate without electricity. There is also a difference in price for summer and winter. The cost of equipment is prohibitive as is the fuel price. The above are all realities faced by farmers (regardless of skin colour) There is no support structure in place to assist and educate emerging farmers and I am not surprised that newly redistributed or acquired farms are non productive in less than a year. Food prices will continue to climb until they have more than doubled and we will be facing a huge food shortage in the not too distant future. I wonder how the "liberation movement" is planning on tackling that?

      Joe - 2012-02-17 12:11

      How about this - The ANC should rather: -Ensure that the billions that were stolen are returned and used to improve the quality of life of those that support them. -Ensure that government funds are used responsibly and that tangible results are produced. -Focus on improving the ageing SA infrastructure & clean up SA towns & cities. -Clean up public health care. Public health facilities are in a dire state. -Clean up and improve law enforcement. -Eradicate corruption in government and inside the organisation. -Get rid of individuals in top positions that polarise this country through their racist rants. -Focus on turning the vast tracts of land that are already in their hands into productive, food producing farm land.  -Educate their supporters on responsible population growth. Do not bring children into this world if you cannot provide for them. You are doing those kids a great injustice! You cannot disenfranchise one race group to improve the standard of living for another. You will simply transfer the problem. The focus should be long term. There is no quick fix.

      Nkulekweni - 2012-02-17 12:32

      I agree with most of what you are saying joe. But your generalisation that ANC followers breed like rats is not based on fact. Throw aside those glasses for a moment. How many children does Nadine Gordimer have? Thambo Mbeki? Trevor Manuel? ect ect ect.

      Joe - 2012-02-17 13:35

      Nkulekweni, the vast majority of ANC supporters are poor, uneducated South Africans. This is sad but true. It is also the primary reason the ANC is in power. You are correct, there are those that do not have more kids than they can provide for. However the vast majority do. Therefore do not let this detract from the fact that unless something is done to stop or slow down this exponential growth, more and more people will be without hope and will face a very bleak future. The South African economy currently van only support a finite number of people. This country is heading for a disaster because people do not want to face facts and the ANC has an almost zero  understanding of economic principals. As in nature everything needs to be in balance, if not nature will restore that balance. The human species can do nothing to change this. If there are too many people to sustain, the numbers will be trimmed forcibly by nature (through famine & disease) until the balance is restored. As far as humans are concerned, this typically takes place over several generations because of the human being's inherent stubborn nature. This is why Africa is known as the  continent of pity on planet earth. The majority of Africa's leaders do not understand how the world works.

      bernpm - 2012-02-17 13:39

      @carpejugulim - Having lived in a farming community in the North Cape, I appreciate your description of the basics of farming. So true!! Discussing this "land reform" a farmer's wife said quietly: "the people forget that you cannot eat land". It is indeed hard work with many risks!!

      Nkulekweni - 2012-02-17 16:09

      Joe you are right what can I say...knee jerk reaction on my part. But I will beg to differ when you say African leaders in general do not understand how the world works. Some do e.g Thabo Mbeki who has a masters in Economics from university of sussex.( A highly renowned faculty) And the post-colinial leaders were all European educated elites. Sedar Senghor of Senegal was a deputy in the French government and looted his country to retire in a castle, Nkrumah, Kaunda ect were all highly educated other words Joe the failure of african states cannot be blamed on lack of education. Were this a forum for serious debate perhaps we could explore the reasons for such failures in a more constructive vein.

  • TheyTookMyNickLaZynEko - 2012-02-17 07:29

    what does the anc want to liberate itself from? itself?

      Jannie - 2012-02-17 08:16

      agree - how can you be the ruling party but you are still a struggler and liberating???

      Jason - 2012-02-17 08:30

      Thats the root of the problem, liberators cannot run a country. Some of his sentences are very racist. There are alot of white south Africans that have bled for this country. Be careful the sleeping dog!

  • Marcell - 2012-02-17 07:48

    Cheese eating mice is a myth. It will rather eat chocolate. Around 43% of my salary belongs to the state. I don't get anything for that in return.

  • mholthuysen - 2012-02-17 07:51

    No - the ANC needs to tackle corruption first - and give Zuma a strong cup of coffee so that he wakes up from slumber land. Before you have not fixed corruption, nepotism and tender fraud in South Africa any attempt to tackle any bigger issue is without foundation; and will be tainted with the suspicion of self enrichment before it has even started. And if you want land reform so much - train and educate those BEFORE you give them the land - what is the point of handing land over to a community who have no clue how to farm!?

      procold2 - 2012-02-17 08:15

      spot on mike,but unfortunatly this land reform is going to turn out to be a self enrichment sheme.

      lindz.kok - 2012-02-17 08:26

      so right mike, there claims are without grounds. if you look at something like farm attacks and what a huge impact that has on our economy how much more damage will land claims not do to s.a. after a farm atack for instance the farm is unproductive for years witch means cutting exports and forcing imports. if land is being taken from productive farmers and given to unskilled people either after a few year this ruind farm gets sold back to willing farmers who will take even longer to restore what has been broken thus prolonging the damage to our economy.

  • Goldie - 2012-02-17 07:54

    That is the problem! The ANC sees itself as a liberation movement and not the reigning political party. It all makes sense now! The two are VASTLY different beasts. You cannot govern a country as a liberation movement, nor can you liberate people when you are the government. It is a case of dis-associative personality disorder! On the land issue - I agree with Benmica, talk to ALL the parties involved and find a long-term, sustainable plan, not just a land-grab quick fix!

      mholthuysen - 2012-02-17 08:25

      @ Leonard - they should try and SERVE South Africa - if they would apply that principle we might be in a totally different position today!

      mholthuysen - 2012-02-17 09:39

      @ lacoste - I agree with you - however it needs to be done properly. Have you been to Zimbabwe recently - the corn chamber of Africa now looks like the Sahel zone - once independent from food imports - now the country needs hand outs to feed its starving population.... as the land which was grabbed is now in tatters... educate farmers, consolidate with farmers - but throwing stones in a glass house and than give uneducated farmers the land will not work. And on the same note - who got the biggest farms in Zimbabwe - ZANU-PF top dogs... ! Where are the people - still starving...

  • John - 2012-02-17 07:58

    ...."We cannot allow hunters to write the history of lions"......... Lions hunt their food also....don't they? Can we see the history through the eyes of the Kudu perhaps?

      Jason - 2012-02-17 08:36

      He might as well have said we cannot allows the whites to right our history! very racist undertones. History is factually based isnt it?

      Herman - 2012-02-17 08:59

      currently the anc have no eyes, just greedy paws

  • christian.helberg - 2012-02-17 07:58

    Are we going to give the Koi San back the whole of southern Africa, they are the original owners of the land, any other tribe or race are equally guilty of "stealing the land" from them. So zuma is indeed correct, "tread carefully" this issue will open a can of worms. You cant point fingers when you are just as guilty.

      Brigitte - 2012-02-17 10:23

      @lacoste - I would dearly love to see some CORRECT statistics on land ownership on SA. How much land is held by Tribal Trusts, how much by the State,how much by chiefs and kings (corrupt or otherwise!)how much by productive farmers and so on. Or is the Gov too afraid to give the correct statistics?

      Verminator - 2012-02-18 14:17

      I suppose the Afrinakers have a more valid and legal claim to African land despite migrating all the way from Europe, an entirely different continent

  • Felix - 2012-02-17 08:00

    "He said land could not just be claimed without compensation, as unskilled workers would not be able to successfully care for their land." and of course because that would be stealing.

      luqman.kajee - 2012-02-17 11:26

      I foresee another Zimbabwe happening

  • Ben - 2012-02-17 08:04

    Land will not help the poor. They can not become farmers without the proper education. They should be allowed to do work that they are skilled for. That is why job creation is the most urgent target now. The people need to eat now and not after they have received farms and became succussful farmers. This exercise requires to be financed. It could have been nearly completed had it not been for corruption, nepotism and tender fraud, perpetrated by the very people who are presently making a lot of noise. Will the proceeds of the farms not go the same way. Get all this money back and the people will find work in developing the infra structure.

      Max - 2012-02-17 08:27

      Ben exactly, if you replace all the white farmers with black farmers, how will this help the poor black masses?

      Ben - 2012-02-17 09:27

      The requirements are, however, lacking. If I am poor and I find work I do not have money to pay for a taxi, decent clothes etc. I will have it after a week or a month. If you give me a farm I will need fertiliser and seed. If I plant I will eat after 6 months. The people will have to be trained to farm. You need training for any job but farming is one of the more difficult ones. See what happened to the farms people received so far.

  • Busi - 2012-02-17 08:08

    People were not de-skilled when being dispossesed. Thier land may have been taken unlawfully but the subsistance lifestyle they lived or wish to live will not allow them to compete, or provide them with the ability to sustain a family or community in a modern economy. If they want things like education for thier children, healthcare and a pension the government will have to provide it. This will not solve anyones problems, they will still be poor with a patch of ground to feed thier goats. A better solution will be a co-operative one where experienced farmers are involved in transferring skills to emerging COMMERCIAL farmers.

      Kevin - 2012-02-17 09:36

      Lacoste, unfortunaley subsistance farming does not work. it does not enrich people to the levels that they are demanding. Farmers that farm for the country are far more effective in alleviating food shortages and high prices. These farms also produce millions of jobs for rural people who have almost no education. As long as they work for farmers who arent abusive they live far better lives than living in straw/mud huts with no infastucture, diseases etc. You mentioned Zimbabwe earlier, when last have you been there. A once power house of the world as far as production/export goes it is now the Titanic. A sunken ship. Land claims will sink this ship as well, garanteed.

  • Geoff - 2012-02-17 08:14

    Mr Mantashe...when did your clock stop? The ANC is no longer a liberation are the Goverment. Start acting like one!

  • guyt1 - 2012-02-17 08:14

    Cliche explosion ....

  • Johan - 2012-02-17 08:16

    OMG - the party controlling Government wants to be a liberation movement! The stupidity has no bounds with this one coming from the secretary general of the party.

  • Max - 2012-02-17 08:23

    Your problem is that if land reform is the centre of your struggle then your struggle is based on a fallacy and therefore null and void. If the remaining land that does not belong to either Government or blacks is given to blacks, how is this going to alleviate poverty of the black masses? You are as delusional as all the communists before you...grow a brain.

  • bheki.dingiswayo - 2012-02-17 08:26

    I strongly agree with the SG, the history of South Africa is distorted. I think the so called "bantu" speaking people will refer to the Nguni speaking people. What about the others San, Basotho, Pedi, AmaShangane?

      Ben - 2012-02-17 08:43

      The history will not help the poor masses, only a good government making the right decisions can elleviate the problem and ideologies are no stepping stones.

  • Ig - 2012-02-17 08:30

    If it is not Malema, it's Mantasha!!!! Can't they lay it to rest, this principle does not work!!!!

  • lindz.kok - 2012-02-17 08:32

    this preposturous claims of land will put us all right where zim is. if land is given to unskilled farmers with no knowlidge of the working of a productive farm, how and when to plant havest and prepare fields etc. they will be in a learning phase of trail and error in witch time the farm will be unable to produce enough for exports wich will force us to import to supply our own needs. bringing our economy into disrepair.

      lindz.kok - 2012-02-17 09:55

      wtf does this have to do with race? its about ownership, and how do you prepose the coverment trains thousands of people with land claims? tell them no wait before we hand over the farm to you first go to agricultural school and learn how to farm then we will send you to do your practicle for a few years under the mentorship of the farmer from who you are going to take this land from! think man it is very logical that this is a disasterous idea! i farmed for 3 years of my life and with my very limeted knowlidge i can tell you there is no way this could ever work. it never worked anywhere in the world before why would it here. it will only damage s.a. why do you think all over the world where this has happend they are now giving away land to able farmers from australia america and south africa?

  • Grant - 2012-02-17 08:35

    The liberation has come and gone you dumb twats! Rather look after the people in a viable manner than destroy this beautiful country!

  • abrie.burger - 2012-02-17 08:35

    Give the people jobs. They will buy their own farms if they want to farm.

  • Duncan Thabiso Mphailane - 2012-02-17 08:37

    Its 2012 and we're busy trying to solve 1994 issues. The issue of land and mineral reform should have been solved by Mandela's cabinet, instead of playing rainbow nation. This is why I think Mandela(as a president) did nothing for black people but worked very hard to ensure that europeans held on to our land and mines and we(Africans) had nothing to "move forward" with.

      Ben - 2012-02-17 08:53

      Mandela has more brains than you can ever hope for. He realised that racism wont solve our problems. He did not see only black and so should you.

      Ben - 2012-02-17 09:40

      Right, you win. Give all the farms to black people and 20000 people will have farms. The other 30 million poor will look to them to produce food and meanwhile pay double for imported food.

      Elton - 2012-02-17 11:21

      Land and Minerals doesn't make you rich. And EDUCATION does.

  • Jennifer - 2012-02-17 08:41

    A convenient distraction from service delivery and crime health gangs corruption education water toilets police brutality unemployment ~ * LOOK OVER THERE, THERE'S LAND AND YOU MUST TAKE IT *~ show the people something they don't have that won't eat into ANC luxuries and creature comforts, or lose them votes. Even if you get land, the ANC will eventually take it from you to feed their shocking insatiable greed... Mice in the cheese factory! giving people land will not meet their needs~ you are BAD shepherds! BAD

  • Johan - 2012-02-17 08:46

    Comrad Mantashe, is the chairperson of the SA Communist Party and it is clear where he wants to go! Nationalise everything!

  • Breinlekkasie - 2012-02-17 08:46

    Since we are moving dates up and down to proof land ownership, here is a thought, 60 000 years ago whites, Indians, Chinese and the American Indians still lived in Africa. Give everybody a piece of land because everybody is from Africa! What is the obsession with land ownership anyway? So government nitpicks about the smallest part of the bloody economy, farming. Does it really matter which race is responsible for producing the majority of the food in this country? Get people educated and create an environment where business can grow and flourish and you will see that all of these other problems like land ownership will disappear by itself.

  • E=MC2 - 2012-02-17 08:48

    The ANC must first properly tackle corruption so that they can take on land reform fairly!

  • Bobo - 2012-02-17 08:54


  • Nigel - 2012-02-17 08:56

    the ANC must tackle all sorts of problems, in other words, it needs to start doing the job it was elected to do, how many years is the ANC going to pay lip service to education, job creation & land reform, talking is not doing, they had better wake up & soon.

  • DuToitCoetzee - 2012-02-17 08:57

    I think we dance too much around the issue of what was and should concentrate on what should be. To have successful black farmers we have to involved existing farmers, assisting new black farmers, by caring over skills etc. There are land for sale between existing farmers and that can cause an integrated system where the new farmers can become part of the farming "culture" and reap the maximum bennifits being part of the others. I grew up on a farm and not even I can say I can now go and farm successfully. Even if I get gov, help. This will also prevent any period of slacking in production, that will prevent food shortages and unnecessary price hikes. If we not following this system we going to have land that change hands from one failure to another without solution, while we throw mud at each other. When taking politics out of this issue and work towards making it a success, with ALL parties having a genuine attitude towards that, it will only be a matter of time before it is solved. If we have started 17/18years ago we would h'v not even had this issue today. It is a bit late, but start it now and we will not have the same nonsense in another 17 years. Rather late than ......

  • Wandile - 2012-02-17 09:02

    Fellow south african, compatriot, fellow citizens of this country. It is high time we learn to accept that S.A is fr all who live in it. Black, white , colored or indians. The issue here is land reform. yes it is part of the ruling part to resolute it. Yes I hav read one commenter has said this ws plan in 1994 now is 2012, still nothing happen. Fellow patriot, this is not an easy issue to deal wt. Here we accomodated all the races. it not gonna be a land grab from one race to another. Tht is why this has become unsuccesfully up to now. The ruling party is still looking for a better ways which will benefit every one involve in it. not one colour. I again ask all South africans to work together, with a vision of nation uniting, not dividing. Lets us all think of our future generation and make sure they dn't leave in the era of apartheid, let us bury that kind of belief. Let us support the ruling party in tackling issues revolving, irrespective of what part you belong too. My advise to all that pose negative comments is that '' please consider the lifestyle of ur future ganerations. This country shold have achieved a lot if wasn't for the negative comments and trying to divide the nation and political issues. Let us support the ruling party, no matter you are DA, IFP, Cope e.t.c. Like it onr not they are here to stay, whether we support the movement or not.

      DuToitCoetzee - 2012-02-17 09:16

      Wandile. I have a problem with supporting the ruling party, but will supporting them if they plan to do it the right and descend way( only than and on this issue) The problem is that I do not know who the ruling party is anymore. Who is in charge of it and to listen to whom when they speaking with a split tongue. Regarding the rest that you have said I can't get anything wrong with and fully agree and will be 100% supportive of that. So my thumbs up is for your attitude and vision.

      Mike - 2012-02-17 09:25

      Just like Mulder you should go and learn your history.There are some issues which we cannot ignore like the issue of land reforn.Our people where esecuted,dispossed their land by force and it is only right that those who took it they should return it to the owners.Irrespective whether we can farm or what.What we make of it is up to us.Big up to the government of Zimbabwe to talking what is righfully theirs.

  • Cracker - 2012-02-17 09:06

    "The ANC needs to reinforce that the only thing that is yours is your salary," he said. "We are fighting the monster at the same time. The ANC is fighting against racial exploitation and the SACP against economic exploitation." He said both parties needed to clear themselves of members with "negative tendencies". ___________________________________________________________________ So-called land reform is just a facade for other ideological purposes. Abolishing individual land ownership is the aim. Land owners of all races will have to give up their land. It includes tribal authorities. Only some fat cats in the top echelons of the political parties will decide who gets to use what and on which conditions. Le's thank Mantashe for making it so clear what we can expect.

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  • Pieter - 2012-02-17 09:12

    No disrespect to blacks who would like to own a farm, but is it not obvious that by giving someone a piece of land, it does not guarantee a successful farmer. I am from a farming community, and let me tell you, our family have been farming for over a 100 years, and it is no walk in the park! Can it not be understood that farming, and succesful farming is needed in this country, so that we can feed the nation!!!! It is pointless to try and rectify the wrongs of the past by trying to re-distribute land (farms) to people who does not know how to farm(once again, no disrespect, as it is not their fault). Does it not make more sense to rather give them property in the larger cities (flats or housing units, which can also generate an income, but does not necessarily needs a lot of skills)! Oufr municipalities own lots of land, which does not get used to it's full potential, now they rahter want to take someting from poeple who was put their lives work into it, and built it up over generations to be productive, just to be ruined. Buildings and other structures are also land, but will at least not affect the feeding of the nation. Farming does not always equel wealth, it takes hard work, lots of skills and dedication, which you don't get overnight!!!

  • MargeauxB003 - 2012-02-17 09:20

    "The ANC needs to reinforce that the only thing that is yours is your salary," he said. I like the fact that they mention this... It would go to argue that anything that I therefore buy with my salary is also mine... Including the roof over my head and the land on which I live!

      luqman.kajee - 2012-02-17 11:39

      and not all that salary is yours... The South African workforce pays double taxes on everything (ie: income tax as well as VAT), someone mentioned that around 43% is the governments (a more realistic number would be higher due to VAT), then you get Toll roads (which fair enough is used to pay for the upkeep of roads), but the money also goes towards the RAF. Where is all this money? lining the pockets of corrupt officials that the ruling party seems to turn a blind eye to

  • CyberDog - 2012-02-17 09:37

    Yes, Mantashe, good call! Liberate us from these criminals, from these thieves, from these racist pigs, from these war mongers. Please liberate us from the ANC. Without the ANC warmongers, the Land reform issues will then easily resolve itself.

  • Francois - 2012-02-17 09:39

    Gwede, Zuma said that the ANC is handling land reform in a responsible way and now you say that you cannot be a liberation movement without land reform. In May 1994, you stopped to be a liberation movement and became a government. Your rhetoric above give the indication that only settlers or colonist of white people were hunters and that all indigenous people were lions. Now who did King Chaka kill? Whites? The fact that there was a law under apartheid that prohibited inter racial marriages and sex, implied it happened, thus to say that the so called "coloured" people originate only from the Khoisan is a farce. They orginate from white people as well. The genocide to which you are referring was caused predominantly by diseases that the people from Europe brought to Africa and the Europeans did not die because they were immune to it. Nobody say in Amsterdam and planned biological warfare in 1652. You are irresponsible to twist the facts for political rhetoric and you are a far worse than Mulder. The latter spoke the truth as a warning, you lied to spark irresponsible emotion.

  • Buti - 2012-02-17 09:41

    Mantashe you're th mouse in the factory right now.

  • ludlowdj - 2012-02-17 11:13

    "The ANC needs to reinforce that the only thing that is yours is your salary," he said. Mantashe is an outright liar!. 60% of most middle class families salaries are the states in one or another form of tax, as for land Mulder is 100% historically correct although we cannot expect the ANC to admit their lies to the international community or their continued lies to the masses, which appears to be about the only thing they are really good at. The assertion by that ANC that it is a "liberation movement" is the most compelling reason to justify removing them from power by what ever means necessary, they are the government of the day, they are in charge, who do they pretend we need to be liberated from, the only viable answer being them themselves.

  • Mtshezi Yonk'insipho Iyawasha Mkhize - 2012-02-17 12:16

    Pieter u are raising some interesting facts something to think bout!!

  • Nkulekweni - 2012-02-17 12:29

    This has been a long time coming. I am glad that Mulder spoke about the land question.

  • Jeremy - 2012-02-18 23:55

    Correct Gwedi, the ANC is the mouse at the cheese factory. The ANC is fighting racial inequality and making damned sure that it endures to add fuel to your imposition of the ongoing struggle of the people of this land. IF only the only thing that is yours is your salary, but from the man in the streets perspective the only thing that is ours is our voice, the ANC are taxing, or raising the costs of their monopolies such as water and power beyond most people reach. I am sure our voices will be silenced soon as well.

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