ANC nominations plagued by discord

2012-12-02 22:43

Johannesburg - The ANC's nomination conferences have been plagued by factional discord, with three provinces failing to nominate their preferred candidates for the party's leadership.

A Friday deadline for nominations was not met by the African National Congress's Limpopo, Western Cape and North West regions.

In North West, the provincial general council (PGC) meeting was delayed for two days because of issues with the verification of branch delegates by external auditors and because of parallel a conference being held in Mahikeng.

The parallel conference was organised by provincial secretary Kabelo Mataboge, who was supporting the nomination of Deputy President Kgalema Motlanthe for president of the party.

Provincial chairperson Supra Mahumapelo supports the nomination of President Jacob Zuma for a second term.

The ANC's national executive committee (NEC) endorsed the Hartbeespoort conference as the official PGC.

Delegates were given the green light to start registering on Saturday, but the conference was delayed again while the provincial executive committee and NEC members held talks overnight to try and resolve the parallel conference problem.

It was decided at the meeting that the two factions would hold one PGC, together, at a new venue in Rustenburg.

The ANC in Limpopo had to cancel its PGC on Friday night when a group of what have described as "violent hooligans" disrupted proceedings.

Provincial spokesperson Makonde Mathivha said delegates had to flee the venue.

He claimed former provincial secretary Joe Maswanganye had been part of the group, who wore T-shirts displaying President Jacob Zuma's face.


Maswanganye was defeated at Limpopo's provincial elective conference last year and was replaced by current secretary Soviet Lekganyane.

The ANC in the Western Cape adjourned its PGC early on Saturday morning without endorsing candidates because of logistical delays, including the verification of branch delegates.

Provincial secretary Songezo Mjongile said on Sunday that the PGC had convened again at 21:00 on Saturday, but had collapsed again.

He said there was a lack of commitment to the process.

"There were some disruptions by a group which did not want the PGC to conclude its business."

Despite the problems in the three provinces ANC secretary general Gwede Mantashe said most of the party's provinces and leagues held successful nomination conferences.

"We have three outstanding.... These are difficult provinces and we are managing these."

ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said the national working committee would meet again before the NEC holds its final meeting for the year on Monday.

The provinces' failure to hold PGCs will not affect their delegates' attendance of the ANC's national elective conference in Mangaung from 16 December to 20 December, or their voting rights.


KwaZulu-Natal, which is the ANC's biggest province and a Zuma stronghold, has nominated him to serve a second term with 849 votes to five for deputy president Kgalema Motlanthe.

The Eastern Cape, Mpumalanga, the Free State and Northern Cape also nominated Zuma.

In the Eastern Cape, Zuma took 392 of the votes versus Motlanthe's 211; in Mpumalanga, Zuma got 427 votes and Motlanthe 17; in the Free State Zuma got 324 votes and Motlanthe none; and in the Northern Cape, Zuma got 169 votes and Motlanthe 25.

Gauteng was the only province to endorse Motlanthe with 238 votes to Zuma's 173.

Although Motlanthe has been nominated by Gauteng and the ANC Youth League he has not said whether he will accept the nomination.

The battle for the position of deputy president has also been hotly contested.

Three provinces - KwaZulu-Natal, Mpumalanga and the Eastern Cape - nominated NEC member Cyril Ramaphosa for the position.

Motlanthe was nomination by the Northern Cape.

The Free State wanted current ANC chair Baleka Mbete to be Zuma's deputy and Gauteng nominated Human Settlements Minister Tokyo Sexwale.

The PGCs delegates also nominated candidates for the new NEC.

  • debduplessis - 2012-12-02 22:46

    Not surprised... they cant organise a simple party nomination or get candidate submissions in on time --- its surprising they think they can "organise" a country which they too have failed dismally at!

      Hasani P - 2012-12-02 23:04

      The country has remained stable under Zuma. There are dissatisfactions there and there , but members of the ANC must accept that he will serve the second term, and hopefully things will improve as they adopt new resolutions . I wish them a peaceful conference in Mangaung. However , those who failed to get the vote for their preferred candidate should not despair , it is like a game, if you loose you still play with the hope of winning the next game. Game spirit so they say.

      Thabo - 2012-12-02 23:10

      We couldn't have wished for a better outcome. If the country experiences another 5 years of Zuma's sloppy way of leading a country, we can be sure the next term will be stormy. We must remember that it is only those on the gravy train that decide our president. The masses will continue suffering and this will be the beginning of our Arab Spring. How much longer are people going to suffer while they steal themselves rich? During the next term more learners will end up unemployed while they watch these thieves drive by in expensive cars. Wasn't it exactly that kind of injustice that brought about 1994?

      stephan.bester.14 - 2012-12-02 23:19

      They can obviously organise their corrupt activities and bank accounts. Pity the same rubbish who profess 'a better life for all' have totally divorced the poor and only look after their obese asses

      Erna - 2012-12-02 23:32

      @hasani - if this is stability, what is instability - war?

      ppisciotta - 2012-12-02 23:45

      Hasani - the country has become a shame to humanity under Zuma. Go back into the bush, pick your nose and don't come out until you are human.

      Thabo - 2012-12-02 23:48

      @Erna. Pity the man because he is on the gravy train. Only another thief on the gravy train would post a lame comment like that.

      jakalas.kruger - 2012-12-03 05:19

      And to think this corrupt scum is placed in charge of deciding our country's future...ANC supporters are intellectually retarded sub-humans.

      wesley.nel.5 - 2012-12-03 05:29

      What else could you expect, they all are just power hunger, corrupt people.

      PrettyUsefulArt - 2012-12-03 05:32

      Spot on, Deb. Bunch of incompetent morons.

      frank.kistler.31 - 2012-12-03 06:29

      What the hell else do u expect????? bunch of morons....

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-12-03 07:33

      Oh they must be making Mandela so proud, they can't even nominate candidates anymore, even that has turned into an abortion. Vote DA people, the ANC is a hopeless case.

      mandla.dlamini.524 - 2012-12-03 13:01

      perhaps you dont understands the ANC, let me tell you in the world there is only one party that is having democratic, bottom up processes, in the world is only ANC, they can misleads you and confuse you, in this country polical parties are led by dictators if you want to get trueth to this asked Tony Leon was only man who declare that true that ANC they will not match ANC democratical processes of leadind the party, now we talk about provincial conferences, may are of more than three, but all S.A parties are struggle to holds their conferences, is only ANC that have branches in England, America branches that are on good standing, but i hope you will learn little beat my fellow south african.

  • stephan.bester.14 - 2012-12-02 23:14

    Let these anc idiots eliminate each other but goodness, who wrote this article? Your linguistic skills are as pathetic as some african president with standard 3.

      Thabo - 2012-12-02 23:25

      Grade 4 Sir. If I'm not mistaken Standard 3 in your terminology equates to Grade 5. He probably only remained at school until the onset of puberty. It would seem as if the onset of his puberty never ended.

      sticky.toffee - 2012-12-03 09:40

      And this is the same party that wants to lead our country. For goodness sake they cant even decide on a leader without internal bullying, factions and fighting. Please people, I beg you - for the sake of our childrens future and for the love of our country - make the right choice when you vote. I know I will be changing my vote next time round. From a once proud ANC supporter.

      mandla.dlamini.524 - 2012-12-03 13:13

      i think this is the comment of vagabond, chicken without head, rootsless tree, an idiots with a mixture f mooor morons.we knows very that our enemies of years are still on ground, working tireless to destroy ANC, one thing to note apartheid spy's like lukkutaa knows very well that what is the ANC , dont read it on newspaper, go an asked patricia delel aboutvthose spy's , she will answer, and tells you, kinkinkiman

  • dominique.wood.14 - 2012-12-02 23:21

    The votes for Gauteng and the Eastern Cape reveals a divided anc. The DA should be able to win in these provinces in the next elections. As for Western Cape, haha,, it'll never happen for the anc. ''..a lack of commitment to..'' Lol.

  • Erna - 2012-12-02 23:24

    They forgot to add 'ANC' violent hooligans.

      jon.jones.90663894 - 2012-12-03 02:35

      Erna I think by now it is superfluous to add ANC because the ANC is automatically associated with violence , corruption , fraud , nepotism and anarchy.

  • bob.small.7547 - 2012-12-02 23:48

    Hopeless bunch...really!

  • norminda.raagas - 2012-12-03 00:28

    Like to read News 24 ANC daily. More Power! !!!

  • norminda.raagas - 2012-12-03 00:28

    Like to read News 24 daily. More Power! !!

  • norminda.raagas - 2012-12-03 00:30

    Good information with easy access.

      surfing.sam.9 - 2012-12-03 07:22

      Use it to see how corrupt the anc is.

  • sabelo.mcondobi.7 - 2012-12-03 01:29

    Because those regions were infiltrated by the anti anc anarchists who wish to distabilise the peaceful conferences. They wear T-shirts of the president. Losers

  • leon.vonsolms - 2012-12-03 02:22

    Falling apart and loving it.

  • zolisa.dlokovu - 2012-12-03 03:14

    Two reasons why kgalema Motlante will not win Mangaungare 1 is too diplomatic(akaphumi elubala-ngathi- ligwala) 2 Some of Zuma supporters are looting public funds and cannot allow one anyone to remove their man from his position. Will Kgalema Motlante surprise everyone and win Mangaung? he is unlikely

      mabhekana.nzuza - 2012-12-03 06:23

      That's how Democracy works mf2, can't u respect it?

      hein.huyser - 2012-12-03 06:36

      @nzuza, this is as far removed from democracy as light from day. Corruption and nepotism, racism and tribalism rules. anything but democracy rules here. If only you guys realize how great true democracy can be.

      Erna - 2012-12-03 09:26

      @nzuza - the anc's version of democracy yes, but not the one practiced in the rest of the world.

  • siyabonga.phungula1 - 2012-12-03 05:24

    uMotlante ngeke esavuma ukungena uselahlekelwe nayisikhundla sakhe sokuba isekela. usephumile kwitop six.

      colin.dovey - 2012-12-03 08:09

      Tu si haki anasa yako katika Kienyeji, wakati huu ni kimsingi ya Kiingereza akizungumza jukwaa - hivyo ambao ni wewe kujaribu kumvutia wenzake vijana?

  • roy.wadhams.1 - 2012-12-03 05:57

    Would be great if there was so much "turmoil" in this party that we saw the last of this bunch of crooks and perhaps seen the last of Zuma,Malema etc.

  • jabumokoena.c.7 - 2012-12-03 06:03

    cANCer makes me sick. Period.

      mandla.dlamini.524 - 2012-12-03 13:30

      yes even your father Andries treneigh dies by heart attack when we won election in 1994, some flight back to their ruzeland, we remain discipline in reconciliation, and to reconcile mainly with those who not prepared to even apologise about their past evils, now is like we apologize to the victimazers while we are the victims, but we will pray maybe god will conquer this demon of centuries.

  • piero.mendace.5 - 2012-12-03 06:11

    Trouble in paradise, they can't even manage their internal affairs..

  • Thilivhali Fitzgerald - 2012-12-03 06:24

    the truth is ANC is the most popular political party in SA but it only takes the voting masses to remove it from power so why r people stressing on the candidate is gona be if u got the powers to choose which party you want to run the government

  • mabhekana.nzuza - 2012-12-03 06:29

    Sour grapes comments, let's respect Democracy unlike DA who made nomination under closed door.

      Erna - 2012-12-03 09:27

      Once again - this is not democracy.

  • hein.huyser - 2012-12-03 06:29

    The real fight is,"can we keep on stealing under JZ, mismannage and get away with it, or, will Mothlante allow us to steal more and even do less under his leadersjip" Tough choices these morons must make Time for some real change to happen and soon

  • altus.kirsten - 2012-12-03 06:30

    And they want to run the country? TIA

      Erna - 2012-12-03 09:27

      The sad thing is, they are running the country.

  • jacob.khoza.39 - 2012-12-03 06:59

    Halala msholozi

  • jansteyn4 - 2012-12-03 07:31

    A large percentage of Eastern Cape children are mentally retarded due to malnutrition. For me Nkandla proves Zuma is not only venal buffoon, he is an evil psychopath and his supporters are accessories to his crimes. Millons spent on his growing harem. Young son in railway bed with Gupta's. Obese son starving the miners. Now we build for his brothers too. No wonder the decent Nkosana dumped him and another committed suicide. He is utterly revolting in every sense of the word. I cringe when i think that he is my country's chief representative.

  • Gerhard - 2012-12-03 07:47

    How does the ANC want to run a country if the cant even get it together to nominate a candidate?

  • glen.e.huysamer - 2012-12-03 07:49

    The ANC has become a plague. Ever hear of any plague that is organized?

  • abdul.cassiem.9 - 2012-12-03 07:59

    Hmmmmm!!!! It seems t ANC is busy to kill it self from t inside out (self destruct )

  • thulani.sparks - 2012-12-03 08:05

    What about the Western Cape what are the reasons for there not to be finality there???...and why does the editor not mention that the Women League and ANC Vets are also backing Zuma but conveniently mentions the YL under Kgalema...numbers not adding up Editor???hurt???

  • justsayingagain - 2012-12-03 08:05

    Aside from the predictable chaotic shambles we are seeing (again) with cANCer, it is perhaps strategically a prudent to have Zuma prevail as head crime boss. That gives us until 2014 to finally put this unsavoury character before the courts and obtain the long overdue guilty verdicts for his endless catalogue of crimes against the SA people

  • Thilivhali Fitzgerald - 2012-12-03 08:07

    in the USA they made history by making Obama the first black president why cant we also make history by making Zille the first SA lady commamder in chief

  • dgreat.cairo - 2012-12-03 08:19

    I still cant believe that South Africans still have hope for Jacob Zuma. I am very disappointed by the results that JZ is leading in high numbers. I am an ANC supporter but this time around, i am so confused which party to vote for because I cannot stand to see JZ rule the country again.

      fumanekile.ralane - 2012-12-03 09:04

      Vote for DA my friend,we will keep voting for ANC we doing 4 Madiba !

  • kagiso.peter.3 - 2012-12-03 09:28

    They can choose Zuma to be their president but the facty remains Zuma failesd to heal us from the anger we had before we went to Limpopo infact he made it worse. So they must embrase themselves for the worste after the mangaung.if the need may be "we the people they call ordinary people we will go for DA. We hate this word "RDINARY PEOPLE/ OUR PEOPLE"

  • ndou.miranda - 2012-12-03 09:54

    Our people mara are not honest. The Provinces that voted for Uzuma are the ones with most poor service delivery, when are they going to wake up and sell the coffee. HELLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

  • Israel - 2013-05-30 21:44

    Zuma's cronnies are divided and while there are several contenders to become President, none of them currently has sufficient support to topple zumakie, expecially given the latter's incumbency advantages - i.e the ability to use state resources including the Police Force and the Judiciary - the thought of this man running this country for another 5 years is HEART BREAKING

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