ANC not aware of 'ghost members'

2012-11-16 22:26

Pretoria - ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu said on Friday that he did not know anything about reported "ghost members" in some provinces.

"I know that we have a very respectable team from headquarters that went to each and every region of our country. They went to each and every province and... there were claims of ghosts even when they were auditing," he told reporters on the sidelines of the ANC's national executive committee (NEC) meeting in Centurion.

"But the outcome of the audit has put us at over 1.2 million. Now these are the members that are residents in all the branches, in all the regions and all the provinces of the African National Congress."

Mthembu said he was not worried about the claims about ghost members because a proper audit had been done.

ANC Eastern Cape secretary Oscar Mabuyane told Business Day the party had discovered that databases from public and private institutions had been used to get people's details to enrol them.

Some were not even aware they had been made ANC members.

Mabuyane said this was discovered when the membership register was checked ahead of branch meetings to discuss the upcoming national elective conference in Mangaung.

The ANC's NEC is holding its meeting at The St George Hotel, in Irene - the last meeting of the NEC elected at Polokwane in 2007.

Mthembu said President Jacob Zuma had presented a political overview earlier in the day.

"The president raised mainly organisational issues. As you will know, we are going to an elective conference in less than a month's time, so the president spoke on the strengths and weaknesses of the ANC," Mthembu said.

"One of the issues that the president raised and continues to raise is the issue of instilling discipline in the ANC."

He said the incoming NEC would have to deal with many of these issues.

Zuma also said the ANC needed to be up to speed with what was happening in communities. This was so the party was not taken by surprise when there was a service delivery protest.

Mthembu said the branches in those areas where there were protests needed to be able to tell the party's national office why the community was unhappy.

"If branches can't tell national office what is going on, maybe there is a serious problem in the way our branches operate," he said.

The NEC would also look at preparations ahead of the elective conference.

Mthembu said more than two-thirds of the ANC's branches had held their branch general meetings (BGMs).

"All BGMs should be done and all provinces should have consolidated all their nominations in that province by the 30 November 2012," he said.

"We have more than 70% of the branches that are finished and we want the other 30 [percent] to get there."

All ANC branches in good standing are holding meetings to nominate their preferred candidates for the party's top six positions and the NEC.

They will then take their nominations to their provincial nomination conference, in preparation for the elective conference.

Mthembu said the NEC would start discussing the organisational report and sign-off on it; this report would then be taken to Mangaung.

Other reports to be discussed were the 2011 Census and African Union Commission chairwoman Nkosazana Dlamini-Zuma's report on irregularities in provincial councillor lists.

  • ChristelleJames - 2012-11-16 22:40

    Actually, is there anything of importance they are aware of?

      lacrimose.wolf - 2012-11-16 23:03

      With apologies to Pink Floyd "Take all your overgrown infants away somewhere And build them a home, a little place of their own. The Nkandla Memorial Home for Incurable Tyrants and Kings. And they can appear to themselves every day On closed circuit T.V. To make sure they're still real. It's the only connection they feel."

      christopher.shining - 2012-11-16 23:23

      We passionately HATE YOU AND YOUR FAMILY....YES FAMILY DO*S!

      beverly.young3 - 2012-11-17 01:05

      Now hang can anyone see a ghost? I am getting more confused by the day. Its is actually so funny......they are paying people who are not at work, some as long as 8 years? (lets mix all the news together) wonder we are broke.

      arthur.hugh - 2012-11-17 02:08

      lacrimosewolf - I see what you did there, good one. Accountability and accounting are evidently things the ANC are "unaware" of. Funny that, since the average business man is held accountable and pays rigorous attention to his accounting. Must be that politicians are retards with no business acumen.

      art5SA - 2012-11-17 06:52

      As the old saying goes: "The votes will be RECOUNTED, until the RIGHT PERSON WINS" That my friends... is the reason for the "GHOST MEMBERS OF THE ANC"!!!!! They become USEFUL when there is voting involved!!!!

      paul.coetzee1 - 2012-11-17 07:43

      Oh 'Ghost' members! Sorry! I thought you said 'Goat' members. :)

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-17 07:58

      YES This following link is about THE MOST IMPORTANT ISSUE THAT THEY ARE FULLY AWARE OF But which they do NOT want the rest of the citizens to grasp and fully understand. WHy SA's Democracy is NOT a Democracy.

      scouter.fourone - 2012-11-17 09:35

      "I know that we have a very respectable team from headquarters ......." Well, this is something new - where have they been hiding for the past eighteen years?

      morne.demeillon - 2012-11-17 09:47

      Obviously, you will not be aware of the ghost members, as you will not be able to see them!

  • emile.marais - 2012-11-16 22:55

    I don't like the ANC administration. The possibility of abuse by the party/movement is to likely to ac cure. Frankly, I view the ANC government as a form of Kratocracy. "Nearly all men can stand adversity, but if you want to test a man's character, give him power." Abraham Lincoln

      narike.lintvelt.9 - 2012-11-17 21:40

      I have created a petition supporting SA's opposition parties' motion of no confidence in Pres Zuma. Please take the time to sign this and pass it on. Thank you.

  • JohnDough - 2012-11-16 22:57

    The only thing that the ANC is not aware of is reality.

      dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-11-17 05:19

      And the fact that they are f#$%&g up a once great country !!

      Donovan Pimm - 2012-11-17 08:06

      what was so great about an apartheid state dennis

  • SharonE - 2012-11-16 23:25

    Are these ghost members representatives of the ancestors that Jacob invokes come election time???

  • roger.kaputnick.90 - 2012-11-17 02:40

    Yawn, who GAF?

  • tony.naidoo - 2012-11-17 02:49


  • shaku.matlou - 2012-11-17 03:12

    Liar,This was your initial plan to threaten Motlanthe. Caught with your pants down. Satan.

      tsakiso.eric - 2012-11-17 07:41

      jeckson has no responsibility cos he even fails to maintain his child

      mike.bundy.73 - 2012-11-17 14:01

      satan wears pants?

  • harold.parsons.37 - 2012-11-17 05:35

    jackson Mthembu never answers the question put to him he also always denies everything asked of him and I find it difficult to believe him now. The ANC membership roll is in a mess and they no longer know how many members they have.It is an organisation built on lies and untruths that is how they got to power and why today it is infested with criminals.

  • sicelo.brukwe.9 - 2012-11-17 06:35

    Please don't kill me with laughter!

  • Siphiwe Mtshweni - 2012-11-17 06:38

    1.2 mil members, how come this party olways win in elections, what are the rest of 4 mil people doing. this people must be stopped enough is enough.

      aubrey.christie - 2012-11-17 13:27

      @Siphiwe Can't make head or tail of your comment. If a zillion idiots vote for a party it will usually win, with dire consequences.See where our country is headed,thats if you have any brains.

  • koos.vandermerwe.75 - 2012-11-17 06:50

    What do we know about them? They are African, political and hell bent on enriching themselves. Membership vs. Membership fees... hahahaha no way in hell they missed that. Either there are no ghost members or they know exactly how many ghost members there are. No way there are no ghost members. Does anyone actually still believe anything these cANCers say?

  • Asdiedamwalbars - 2012-11-17 06:54

    Denial, denial, denail...what about the ghost ANC members getting paid.

  • malcolm.moore.33821 - 2012-11-17 07:08

    One has to first believe in ghosts, in order to be aware of them!

  • Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-11-17 07:10

    Jackson Mthembu managed to get his lip out of the bottle again? Praise be to the lord of ghosts.

  • Dogmaticmad - 2012-11-17 07:31

    The latest motto of the ANC "DENY, DENY, DENY" Even if you tell them they are bl@ck they will deny it. For some reason they want to be something they are not, and they will deny that as well!!

  • henry.vanderburpenfart - 2012-11-17 07:47


  • joe.smit.549 - 2012-11-17 08:06

    The ANC is not aware of anything that is wrong. But then "What is a crook?"

  • msturmair - 2012-11-17 08:18

    ignorance makes u guilty.....

  • sthembiso.jali.50 - 2012-11-17 08:34

    No mr mthembu was told about these incidents, its just that the phone call was made on friday evening.

  • clinton.bowden1 - 2012-11-17 09:08

    Awareness and ANC are two words that simply don't go together. Some of an oxymoron or antithesis.

  • altus.kirsten - 2012-11-17 09:35


  • aubrey.christie - 2012-11-17 09:48

    Does he know what a ghost is. He believes in spirits and thokoloses.

  • Gill McCain - 2012-11-17 09:51

    I don't suppose he knows who in the ANC is paying for protesters in the Western Cape either does he? Tosser

  • martha.stclair - 2012-11-17 10:23

    Are you aware of anything????

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-11-17 12:51

    Next to Blade, Mthembu must be the biggest joker in the ANC . Mind you I am not actually surprised he isn't aware of such trivialities as ghost members. He doesn't look really alive and chirpy does he?.

  • alexcon85 - 2012-11-17 22:15

    I wonder what Nelson Mandela must really think about the ANC now? His vision for SA vs current ANC path. We can all see the ANC has completely lost their way. Some good intentions might be hiding there somewhere but the road to hell is also paved with good intentions.... also, intentions are a far cry from implementing things in real life.

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