ANC out to discredit youth leaders: Malema

2011-11-16 16:08

Johannesburg - The ANC was out to discredit youth league leaders during their recent disciplinary hearing, league president Julius Malema said on Wednesday.

"Even after the public communications of the outcome, members... continued to leak misleading information with a clear purpose and intention to discredit witnesses who came to testify for the leadership," Malema told reporters in Johannesburg.

"Already on Monday... the African National Congress issued a statement claiming that 'the process as well as the outcome of the recent disciplinary hearing enjoys the respect and acceptance by all leaders of the ANC and members'."

Malema said this compromised members of the national disciplinary committee of appeal, who were leaders of the ANC and would preside over the appeal process.

Malema, league spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, deputy president Ronald Lamola, treasurer general Pule Mabe, secretary general Sindiso Magaqa and deputy secretary general Kenetswe Mosenogi were sanctioned by the national disciplinary committee (NDC) last Thursday.

ANCYL rejects verdict

Malema was given a five-year suspension and told to vacate his position as president and Shivambu was suspended for three years and also told to vacate.

The other four leaders all had their youth league membership suspended for two years. This sanction was suspended for three years.

The ANC Youth League "totally" disagreed with and rejected the outcome of the disciplinary hearings and would appeal against the convictions.

The decision to suspend ANCYL leaders was taken before the disciplinary hearings started, charged Malema.

"There were always evident signs that a decision to suspend the leadership of the ANCYL has long been taken by the NDC," he said.

"It is evident from the utterances of the secretary general [Gwede Mantashe] that the decision to convict and sanction was taken and agitated... in all his statements, [he] made such intentions very clear."

Mantashe had said the ANCYL had "crossed a line" before the disciplinary hearing started.


"Saying someone crossed a line is a verdict, not a complaint that has to be taken through a fair process," said Malema.

He said ANC spokesperson Jackson Mthembu had made a statement, on behalf of the party, that the ANC could not harbour the leaders of the ANCYL.

"This statement was a clear indication of a determination on the part of some leaders of the ANC to get rid of the leadership... before due process could be followed."

The NDC was convened "merely" to give the conviction legitimacy.

Malema said it was evident that NDC chairperson Derek Hanekom had a political agenda.

He publicly said the youth league's policy on expropriation of land without compensation would not happen as long as he was in the ANC.

Settling a political score

Malema said Hanekom failed to control his temper and had outbursts during the hearings, interrupting witnesses and undermining the integrity of senior ANC leaders.

For this reason he should have recused himself, said Malema.

The ANCYL asked Susan Shabangu and Colins Chabane to recuse themselves from the hearings, but their request was denied.

The disciplinary hearings had been used to settle a political score, said Malema.

"The possibility that these members used the NDC to settle political scores and suppress dissent is very high," he said.

"Some of the NDC members did not attend the actual presentations of closing arguments, yet partook in the process to give verdict and sanctions to the leadership of the ANCYL."

There was suspicion and concern over the legitimacy of the hearings because the ANCYL leaders were not given the opportunity to present mitigating circumstances ahead of the suspensions.

Resigning not an option

"This is the most basic and fundamental right that cannot be denied to any person," said Malema.

"We call on all those who love democracy and are not fearful of dictatorship to support, in principle, the ANCYL’s petition to be afforded the right to mitigation before such harsh punishment can ever be implemented."

When asked if he would resign for the good of the organisation, Malema said he would not.

"The disciplinary hearings has taken time away from youth league programmes... [but] resigning is not an option, I must be fired," he said.

Malema said if he was still suspended at the end of the appeal process, he would return in five years’ time. He also said he would still attend the ANC's centenary celebrations.

"I'm not a suspended supporter [of the ANC], I'm a suspended member," he said.

"I have nothing that the ANC can take away from me."

Malema said this was the most crucial time to defend the ANCYL.

"Our struggle will never be undermined, victory is certain. Let the enemy celebrate, the celebration will be short lived," he said.

  • Irene - 2011-11-16 16:13

    Shame! Juliearse and his merry band of pack followers, don't understand that the ANC doesn't want them. Wonder what part of P.O. they don't understand? If my boss fired me, I sure wouldn't go begging for my job back. Have they no pride?

      Go - 2011-11-16 16:24

      Lol , amazing how he was so humble and subdued in Carte Blanch interview and now suddenly he is back to his loud mouthed arrogant rants. He is trying everything to save face -but i doubt it will work

      Irene - 2011-11-16 16:26

      @Go ~ He's nothing but a pyscho nutter that puts on a different face to whoever he's speaking to. He probably also realised that Bongani would put him in his place if necessary and was more than likely intimidated by him as well.

      Go - 2011-11-16 16:32

      @irene - i think he knows what is coming. His actions are even more erratic and illogical than usual and he is clutching at every straw he can find

      Robert - 2011-11-16 19:54

      Why is Robert Gumede so quiet. Julius was a guest of honour on his wedding - Youtube. Did he back the wrong horse????? - Isn't that where Cele and Roux Shibangu met. Funny when tender manipulation is in the focus he disappears from the media. Mail and guardian has gone quiet on this Telkom thing - is there a threat or law suit ongoing. Come on the swindled deal of the tender on the Execujet saga. Not to talk of so many others. Why is the Hawks not over this guys like a RASH. Why is it that his close relationship with Malema not public. Why is it that NEC or any other institution like the public protector over his ass. It seems everybody is scared of this white enriched and extended white enriched guy is getting away with everything. Is he lying low to avoid attention in this critical time of the ANC positioning and power struggle. He donated publically a lot of money to the ANC/ANCYL. MMM makes we wonder how high he goes or what dirt he has on all the premiers and heads of departments. Is this really an untouchable.

      Robert - 2011-11-16 20:07

      sorry forget this clip -

  • Julian - 2011-11-16 16:15

    The ANC doesn't need to discredit the ANCYL Leaders. Malema, Shivambu and the rest did that on their own.

  • Mike - 2011-11-16 16:17

    Looks like the purple pimpernel is heading towards expulsion at this rate. Keep the insults flowing it's good for the whole of SA if you are booted out. Try manners 101 never killed anybody. Oh Julius, don't vote ANC they're out to get you!

  • paul.rumemachimhosva - 2011-11-16 16:24

    Those who celebrated too hard and too early are disappointed that these fools have a fight in them....

      Irene - 2011-11-16 16:28

      Nobody has celebrated too hard or too early. It's a pity you're not celebrating because if Juliearse gets his way, I'm afraid it's you who will have the smile wiped off your face so quickly that you'd need surgery to regain the ability to smile. Instead of worrying about celebrating, rather get yourself educated so you can find a job. That's where you'll find economic freedom unless of course you want to do another march but all you'll get is blisters on your feet. ROTFLMAO!

      Irene - 2011-11-16 16:30

      Didn't you learn anything from ZimBOBwe? There is no resurrection coming boet.

      Foc - 2011-11-16 16:52

      Paul BIG difference between 'having fight in them' and 'grabbing at straws out of TOTAL DESPARATION'!!

      paul.rumemachimhosva - 2011-11-16 16:56

      @Irene....nothing I wrote is in support of Malema but the hate you have is amazing. Lessons I learnt from Zim: I will not wish any of that on you nor Malema. I am simply enjoying the ride. The anger you have and the swinging pendulum that is Malema's ride!!

      Irene - 2011-11-16 17:16

      @paul ~ Ply your BS on someone else, it won't work on me, sorry but well done for trying.

  • Robbie - 2011-11-16 16:24

    Hendrik-are you on some sort of very cheap drugs?

      Peter - 2011-11-16 16:33

      Get back to work Hendrik, and take a pill.

  • Omrisho - 2011-11-16 16:30

    please N24... just block this John Ndebe/Hendrik Verwoerd already

  • Thabiso - 2011-11-16 16:43

    ANC is making a mess of this situation, they dont think before they do something.It is clear that they didn't want malema anymore and it is a disgrace for them cause Malema fought for Zuma when he was down and out, so where was Mathashe,Chabane,sisulu,shabangu and others by that time.Should Zuma lose the elections he must know these people will jump ships they only support him to protect their positions and i also don't like the way Malema's hearing was held, It is clear the chairperson was bias and had an interest on this case and he was not neutral it was as if he was the attoney of the ANC. Malema's charge is confusing and contadicting so his suspention is procedually and substencially unfair. There are individuals in the ANC Who deserves to be dismissed than Malema.

      africanwolf - 2011-11-16 16:55

      The problem is that other members do not cause damage to SA'S economy as the youth league did people are afraid to invest in SA now how are you going to create those jobs everyone needs so much?

      Foc - 2011-11-16 16:58

      Thabiso sadly this is dirty politics ... the problem is that they are ALL too weak and they ALL afraid of losing their lucrative positions so they will never turn against the ANC. They will only turn against individuals in a power struggle that gives them a future in personal capacity. Thats why Mugabe is still in power and very clever ... he enriched enough cronies around him that has too much to lose financially so they will never turn against him Bottom line = AFRICAN politics are ONLY about personal gain .... who cares a damn about the principles and the poor supporters ... sad but true

  • Piet - 2011-11-16 16:45

    are not fearful of dictatorship, WTF??????? You little Ghadaffi!!!

  • Alva - 2011-11-16 16:48

    Boo hoo hoo! Too late for tears Malema! Handle your punishment like a man. Go get a real job!

  • Pieter - 2011-11-16 16:52

    You have a lot to say for someone with an agenda like yours.

  • 3pherb - 2011-11-16 16:57

    You are doing a fine job discrediting yourself!

  • sidney.gilroy - 2011-11-16 16:58

    Malema. You have become irrelevant and your rethoric has lost it`s punch. People would rather put their trust in the ANC on the long term, albeit transformation is at a snail`s pace...than bet on a revolutionary who will lead them to war. In the prior your children has a future. In the latter you will not be sure if you will have any children alive to bestowe the future to. And that is the simple fact of the matter.

  • Pieter - 2011-11-16 16:58

    Poloyatonki. Only blacks live in townships and rural areas because thats where they feel that they belong.

  • Dutchie - 2011-11-16 16:59

    "I have nothing that the ANC can take away from me." Want to bet Purple that you have no control over tenders...I think your pal Maria Ramos is looking at your repayment plan for;the Range Rover,AMG, R16 mil house...ect.

  • Anton - 2011-11-16 17:03

    Jislaaik, Malema f*kof nou man, jou tyd is verby. Gaan soek werk.

      Juan - 2011-11-16 17:30

      Hy weet nie wat werk is nie

  • Juan - 2011-11-16 17:10

    Wow this idiot is really doing a good job burning his bridges!!

  • Smell - 2011-11-16 17:23

    "Copy and paste" EWP has now morphed into Verwoerd. The real Verwoerd, and the othet Apartheid leaders did make terrible mistakes, because like Robert Jensen, their ideology was way off the bell curve of rational thinking. However, the real Verwoerd (and Ian Smith) was faced with demograhic challenges vastly different from say Australia, New Zealand and Canada. EWP/"Verwoerd" persists with glossing over the many profound self created problems of the Third World, be it in passive or active ways. Sp, prior to 1948 and 1652 Africa was a glorious example of human rights, economic prosperity and peace, and a hotbed of scientific endeavour and medical breakthroughs? No famine, war or disease? And then those dastardly Europeans came and spoiled it all? That is what happens when you are wearing the lenses of an ideological nutbar like Robert Jensen - a man scorned by his fellow academics. Pastor Manning (from USA) and Bill Cosby are both African-Americans that have been severely critical of their own people. The fact that they are Black certainly does not make all their assertions true. Just as your hero "male feminist" Robert Jensen toxic generalizations about White people are not necessarily true just because it is coming from a White man. University of Texas President Larry Faulkner apparently called Jensen "a fountain of undiluted foolishness on issues of public policy". Enough said. Now get a life and rather start quoting people with brains like Mandela and Ghandi.

      Smell - 2011-11-16 17:40

      Or your "truth" is way too one-sided. Truth is not a construct, it is neutral and dispassionate.

      TamaraSays - 2011-11-16 17:50

      I am always entertained by the copying and pasting. I do think, Hendrik ou maat, that you are one of those people who can clean both ears with the same earbud, from the same side. Shamepies.

      Hendrik_Verwoerd - 2011-11-16 17:51

      What do you mean that the truth is always "neurtral"? Are you saying that the truth never hurts people? So if a police informant/witness takes the stand and testifies AGAINST the defendent (facing murder charges) by exposing the truth, that's not true truth?

      Smell - 2011-11-17 04:09

      The reaction to the truth may well be justifiable moral outrage. But in seeking the truth one has to come with an open mind and the willingness to accept some blame for ongoing failure. And suspected murder is certainly not always 1st degree murder. It could just as well be manslaughter. Or perhaps even suicide. The latter is an apt metaphor for African suffering because of poor African leadership. You cannot always point the finger at others. Robert Jensen's viewpoint ("it's all the White Man's fault") is just the extreme of loony left construct. Just like the fascist right will try and pin all of Africa's failures on the Black man. Neither approach is fair, rational or truthful. Again, enough said. Get a life and rather start quoting people with brains like Mandela and Ghandi. Or use you own common sense.

  • tsndou - 2011-11-16 17:30

    Can somebody talk about something positive? Im tired of all these thrashing staff of each other.

  • Tom - 2011-11-16 17:32

    The ANC dosen't have to discredit the Youth League Leaders, the Youth League Leaders do that themselves, with their lack of education, respect, hate speech, etc.

  • TamaraSays - 2011-11-16 17:46

    The sad thing is that they don't really have to try very hard. The 'youth' have been doing a bang up job of destroying their credibility all on their own.

  • Kholofelo Theko - 2011-11-16 18:41

    The voice of reason can't be silenced, viva ANCYL, viva economic freedom fighters.

  • Nikki Bodenstein - 2011-11-18 21:04

    ANC and the ANCYL can both suck it! Useless bunch!

  • barry.mcbride - 2011-11-21 22:56

    Crazy stuff, especially if their original plan was not only to accuse ANCYL leaders of such accusations and find them guilty pre-disciplinary hearing, but also intended to be perceived by the media & public as genuine, whilst being fully aware of the fact that such an amendment does exist in the ANCYL constitution and will be used against their ruling!

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