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ANC owes guesthouses R7m - report

2012-12-10 08:01

Bloemfontein - Angry guesthouse owners in Bloemfontein are accusing the ANC of not paying them over R7m for accommodation booked for its national conference.

One travel agent who booked 12 guesthouses and 800 rooms said the ANC owed him R7m, Volksblad reported on Monday.

Owners of these guesthouses wanted him to explain why the party was over a month late with payment.

The travel agent said the guesthouses were losing money because the bookings were made from Sunday and other guests could not be accommodated.

The ANC apparently asked for invoices months ago, but kept postponing the date of payment.

A homeowner at Woodlands Hills estate said he agreed to rent out his house for R65 000 for five days between 16 and 20 December, but was not getting his money from the ANC.

Some residents are still struggling to get money from the ANC for its centenary celebrations held in the city in January.

A Free State ANC spokesperson said the bookings were done from ANC headquarters. He also warned residents to be wary of people making bookings in the name of the ANC.

He said guesthouse owners with queries should call the ANC’s provincial office.

Comments
  • sminx.r.mandla - 2012-12-10 08:07

    Then cancel the damn booking, geez!!

      thabang.bornagain - 2012-12-10 08:08

      simple as that

      robbie.crouch - 2012-12-10 08:11

      Or insist on payment up front.

      lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-10 08:13

      Heh heh - its the upfront payment thats missing! Bail now. We warned you!

      shaun.cousins1 - 2012-12-10 10:37

      Then they toi toi and burn down the guest house....rem these are not civilized people we talking about.

      azukani - 2012-12-11 13:29

      I would have thought that guests houses cancel bookings if payment is not made on a certain date.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-12-11 13:29

      *gigle* sorry, I spent 12 years in tourism, this is NOTHING new...we learnt a lesson though....after the first time, payment upfront else no beds...also, only taking bookings through recognised travel agents. Another lesson, lock the doors after midnight!!! LOL!

  • robert.starke.98 - 2012-12-10 08:08

    Typical - Want everything, but dont pay !!

      Montagnes.Bleues - 2012-12-10 08:59

      The ARROGANT ENTITLEMENT of B-BBEE & AA is that not a cent will ever be recovered from black claws that have extended begging bowls in your face like a zuma middle finger! Especially when it's anything with the taint of anc hovering around it.

  • Don.Tandy - 2012-12-10 08:09

    Strong lesson to be learnt here - don't do business with the ANCorruption - you are likely to get your fingers burnt.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-12-11 15:10

      I must disagree there.....reiterating my previous post, re being in tourism for 12 years, this sort of behaviour is common in all 'group bookings'. I promise you, you would be shocked at what I have witinessed in the years past.

  • craig.lowe.3572 - 2012-12-10 08:10

    He said it, be warned when taking bookings from the ANC !

      kortbroek.duplessis - 2012-12-10 08:52

      And the very same people we entrust with running the country. No wonder we are in the poop

      nic.nomicos.3 - 2012-12-10 10:46

      And don' forget to hide the chairs???

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-12-10 13:39

      The pool would be a good place to hide the chairs..Theyll never think to look there...

  • lee.brand.73 - 2012-12-10 08:11

    I am sure you charge a generous premium for doing business with the devil! If you play this game you are sure to get burned. Cancel their bookings and let them stay in 5 star hotels.

  • john.ferreira.1213 - 2012-12-10 08:13

    You gullible lot of guest house owners,did you really think that the ANC would pay you upfront? Hope you did not fall too hard off the bandwagon, but then again it would only be your own fault. Maybe you thought that you could rake in a couple of thousands of rands.

      raymond.dick.12 - 2012-12-10 09:14

      They are business people who are obligated to maximise their profits. Why should they not 'rake in a couple of thousands of rands"

      p.borchard - 2012-12-10 09:52

      raymond - if I had a property that I needed to have demolished for free, I'd 'rent' it out to the ANC. Your chances of that happening, is 100% Chances of getting your 'couple of thousands' = ZERO. There is nothing wrong with a bit of greed, you just have to realise that you are dealing with blue blooded thieves when you do business with the ANC and all their sidekicks. They are far better at scoring out of stupidity than the rest of uscould ever hope to get.

      beverly.young3 - 2012-12-11 15:17

      Again, I point out, group bookings generally have a certain budget. i.e. R750? DBB.......it is sadly the theft and destruction, that may occur when renting out to people. One hotel here, who do masses of business with the gorvernemnt, stip the rooms of all the 'frilly bits'. In addition,they have their 'housekeepers' search the luggage, to take back all the things that are already packed there...LOL! Sorry, but in this way they are able to retain some fo their own stuff. Oh, and they do add on an insurance, very little to cover theft. Towels, hairdryers, shampoos, pillow cases blah blah.....even curatins in one case.

  • gvangreunen - 2012-12-10 08:14

    why would anyone do any business with our government without making them pay 100% upfront?? We ALL know how dishonest and corrupt they are!

  • fussed.anderson - 2012-12-10 08:14

    The bank sent me an email for me to update my details. I did, it looked just like there website and I thought..............no not this time

  • abdul.cassiem.9 - 2012-12-10 08:17

    These bastard ANC parasites get out u bastards ye days r numbered

  • tobydt - 2012-12-10 08:18

    Dumb@sses doing business with the ANC, you idjits deserve not getting paid.

      raymond.dick.12 - 2012-12-10 09:15

      Nobody deserves to not be paid unless they have not delivered on promised services.

  • eyesears.handsfeet - 2012-12-10 08:18

    There is no medicine for the blind, deaf and dumb at heart and mind. When are people going to learn that some cannot be trusted. It's not new. It is history repeating itself over and over again on a daily basis.

      jacques.d.plessis.75 - 2012-12-10 08:45

      @thabang - the same as you loathe whites right? Stick with the topic at hand racist pig.

      gerald.parker.3956 - 2012-12-10 09:37

      thabang go anfd stay in a tree or under a bush then. We loath blacks who don't pay. you call yourself bornagain, no I dont agree the doctor made the same mistake again, he threw away the baby and kept the afterbirth

      p.borchard - 2012-12-10 10:01

      thabang, next time you are born again, maybe you might get a bit of common sense. Anyway, evidently you don't know the history of doing business with the ANC. Type "ANC NON-PAYMENT" into News24's search and get the message THEY DON'T PAY for services rendered, EVER. PERIOD. Yes, I loath CORRUPT blacks, as much as I loath corrupt whites, coloureds, Koi-San, hispanics, Chinese, Zimbos, etc etc etc.

  • richard.zanner - 2012-12-10 08:21

    And so the destruction carries on.

  • werner.dippenaar.77 - 2012-12-10 08:24

    Well if you are so stupid as too rent out your house to criminals, you deserve it.

  • brionyl.french - 2012-12-10 08:26

    EVERYBODY STOP HOUSING AND HELPING THE ANC THEY ARE CROOKS AND DONT PAY! YOUR STUPID IF YOU ALLOW THESE FOOLS ANYWHERE NEAR YOUR PROPERTY YOUR LIFE, YOUR ANYTHING JUST LOOK AT WHAT THEY HAVE DONE WITH THIS COUNTRY? THE BIGGEST CROOK IS OUR PRESIDENT

      dragonfire47 - 2012-12-10 08:49

      and you are a fool for keeping the savage anc in power

      mawandewonderman.mkuba - 2012-12-10 08:52

      Dragonfire your name is so childish.. Nowonder u so little minded. Not every black votes ANC sidenge.

      heini.botes - 2012-12-10 08:53

      Hmmm Robot fool????...that sounds very familier...oh wait, every cANCer supporter is one

  • george.pito - 2012-12-10 08:30

    Must be because of apartheid

  • mphotant.thelejane - 2012-12-10 08:31

    Hayini Gwede yintoni, bhatalani abahlali kutheni ningama Pantsula nje

      gerrit.kriel.3 - 2012-12-11 09:35

      sic matris tuae cunnus quoque morionem

      azukani - 2012-12-11 13:35

      LOL...nabahlali banyabile maan, kutheni bengafuni imali phambili kuqala. @gerrit.kriel.3...I don't really know why you would say what you've said...smh.

  • allan.rosenberg.752 - 2012-12-10 08:31

    @news24. If you are prepared to make a statement as in this article, which I don't dispute is interesting reading, please back it up with the golden journalism rule. Who, what, when, where and why. This is so vague that people will start accusing you of false sensationalism. I would be very interested to know who the travel agent was awarded this business. If you dig deeper, you just might find a story within a story. Anyway, order numbers issued by government can only be raised on a cappex (capital expenditure) system which means that money is reserved towards that order number issued so there should be money put aside for this bulk booking. (Should be) is the story I want to know about. Thank you in advance

      derek.swart.98 - 2012-12-10 08:55

      That's all well and good for government expenditure, but this is for a political party's national conference. Has nothing to do with the government (technically). So ANC should pay upfront or at least the deposits.

      allan.rosenberg.752 - 2012-12-10 11:37

      @derek yu have a valid point. This is totall not a government expence

  • ron.bilyard - 2012-12-10 08:31

    I am so NOT surprised.

  • apgreeff - 2012-12-10 08:35

    Thre must be lesson to be learned. The ANC does not settle accounts in time, whether that is upfront fees as confirmation of bookings or whether that is settling the final invoice afterwards. Why do you still want to do business with such an untrustworthy client? I think the guesthouse owners will come second (yet again!). See how the taxpayer come second and learn from that.

  • mark.barker.370 - 2012-12-10 08:39

    Serves them right for doing business with these clowns

  • warren.rodel - 2012-12-10 08:40

    cANCer - all they want is "give me, give me, give me", they are thieves.

  • lawrence.brown.5243817 - 2012-12-10 08:41

    Don't know why the guest house owners are moaning. The travel agent took and made the bookings. Their account is with the agent....and he suggests that they should write to the ANC's provincial offices. Then again, anyone who allows ANC the use of services without receipt of full payment up front is setting themselves up for a financial beating.

  • Azwihangwisi - 2012-12-10 08:45

    a leopard never change its spots. Crooks!

  • dragonfire47 - 2012-12-10 08:47

    more entertainment for a monday morning, I love it, sue the thieving savage scum

  • jaco.skalkwyk.73 - 2012-12-10 08:51

    Hey guys, think on the bright side...at least they have not wasted R7mil of our tax money yet.

  • elkita.robbertse.96 - 2012-12-10 08:51

    And now my friend,the end is near.The ANC did it their way.

  • Donkervlie - 2012-12-10 08:54

    If you are stupid and greedy enough to do business with people with poor business ethics then you deserve to be ripped off. It is generally known if you do business with these people you wont get your money

  • Bob - 2012-12-10 08:59

    What did these businesses expect? They made a deal with the devil so to speak, but alas, all they saw was the money flashing before them so they accepted their business. If I were in their shoes I would have turned these chair-throwing, machete-wielding thugs away.

  • Deon - 2012-12-10 09:04

    No money no service. Cancell the bookings.

  • linda.duits - 2012-12-10 09:05

    You NEVER do business with this lot! You can wait from 3 months to 3 years to get paid if you are lucky! How do I know... when the State took over a hospital I worked for many years ago they weren't paying accounts. I had left and some of my old staff were coming to me with tears in their eyes telling me it was so bad that patients never had food, the staff were buying bread out of their own pockets to give to the patients.

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-12-10 09:08

    The problem is the word FREE. This word must be one of the few words in the african dictionary and is a word and meaning they most understand. FREE THIS FREE THAT. When they have to pay money for something they cant show, they dont want to pay, when its money for flashy things they prepared to pay whilst its still flashy, once its lost its lustre they stop paying.

      zamani.ndlovu.5203 - 2012-12-10 09:38

      ar u not an african watson?.u hv an identity crisis I suppose.ts u who wants free things.dd u get some in the old dark days?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-10 12:04

      zamani.ndlovu.5203. The old dark days?. That was when you were just a thought in your daddy's head, right?.

      phillys.winterbottom - 2012-12-10 12:13

      no Jacqui, the Ndlovu scuzzball doesn't know who his daddy is..........

  • clinton.bowden1 - 2012-12-10 09:08

    Seriously, the most corrupt organisation in the country and expected to do business with them ethically....Must have been one of them that voted them in. Personally I would have closed down my business for that period.

  • rudi.lombard - 2012-12-10 09:08

    Daai geld is alles in Zumaville in!

  • ben.louw.5 - 2012-12-10 09:10

    Sleg goed

  • anakin.skyvader.9 - 2012-12-10 09:19

    CANCEL ALL THE BOOKINGS IMMEDIATELY and make accomodation available for other local and overseas individuals not affiliated with the ANC conference. And DO NOT re-negotiate the newly opened slots with the ANC. They can all go and overnight in tents or mudhuts as far as I'm concerned (the tents must be bought upfront with cash - NB.). If I sound racist then it's beause the ANC is a racist organisation with their AA EE BEE BBEE BBBEEE policies and only care to look after themselves and screw the taxpayer and poor and homeless. In fact why not move the entire conference to Nklanda so they can go and make a big mess there instead (breaking the beer bottles and littering everywhere). Read the article "Orphanage 'too white' for donations" at [ http://www.news24.com/SouthAfrica/News/Orphanage-too-white-for-donations-20121207 ] and tell me one cannot seeth with anger with such shameless racial discrimination: even if the statement has now been revised due to the public outcry it's too late - the damage has already been done.

  • sisie.indola - 2012-12-10 09:28

    Who deals with the purse strings in the Government and ANC? Do they have a problem with reading or is it a case of 'they should be grateful that we are gracing them with our presence' why pay..

  • delmainec - 2012-12-10 09:33

    Common ANC, its not your money, what's the hold up just pay the people...

  • maureen.churchill.9 - 2012-12-10 09:37

    Shame on you ANC, these guest houses need to keep the place running, they have salaries and numerous other expenses to pay. You may be the governing party, but you don't own the country. Pay your bills the same as we 'Joe Soap's' do, how dare you think you are entitled.

  • nolubabalo.ntlangula - 2012-12-10 09:43

    Just laughing my lungs out ay the comments are killing me.....as for the guesthouse owner you should have opened your eyes.....they are corrupt to the core......

  • Suzanne Viljoen - 2012-12-10 09:50

    The ANC owes the whole South Africa nation a damn lot more!

  • squeegee.pilot - 2012-12-10 10:31

    This is where the YL learnt not to pay for services...

  • theMichaelHawthorne - 2012-12-10 10:36

    ANC mentality fortunately I don't serve the ANC unless they are willing to pay upfront @ 2013% markup!

  • nelson.casquilho - 2012-12-10 10:42

    senasation seeking news 24......................

      heini.botes - 2012-12-10 13:52

      I sure hope you find it 'sensasional' when the cANCer owns you R100k. #sheepish much

      dekkeranton - 2012-12-10 16:59

      It is not “sensation seeking”, it is a god damn disgrace that we have a government that cannot be trusted, even with something as small as paying their private accounts! Who the hell do they think they are, the f..king royal family?

  • dekkeranton - 2012-12-10 10:42

    If any hospitality industry operator are so stupid to do any business with this well publicised lying, unprincipled , fraudulent , crooked, dishonourable , depraved , cheating, immoral, criminal, wicked, corrupt, dishonest, debauched, depraved, self-enriching, mafia-style, good-for-nothing, fat-cat, money stealing, unethical , unscrupulous , scallywags, and then claim they got burned, they only have themselves to blame! DON’T BE STUPID! The moment you hear or see the abbreviation A.N.C., grab your wallet, and your daughters, and run away as fast as you can!

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-12-10 13:15

      Are your fingers sore now ? Totally agree with you though..........

      dekkeranton - 2012-12-10 17:00

      There are a few more adverbs I could have used, but then people might have thought I’m foul-mouthed and rude. Use your imagination!

      Zahir - 2012-12-10 17:57

      U forget greedy in your lines

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-12-10 11:22

    Yes, and they owe the rest of the country a decent, honest, capable government.

  • gloria.mathebula.9 - 2012-12-10 11:40

    I think businesses should boycott the ANC and government they dont pay

  • Martha1234 - 2012-12-10 11:43

    Cancel the bookings and let them sleep on the streets! Or demand full payment up front. Not that hard to solve!

  • phillys.winterbottom - 2012-12-10 11:57

    hahahahah!!!! moral of the story, don't do business with these cnuts!!! this is just further confirmation that they don't give a fig for the man in the street!!!!!

  • HenryMoorcroft - 2012-12-10 12:05

    "A homeowner at Woodlands Hills estate said he agreed to rent out his house for R65 000 for five days between 16 and 20 December, but was not getting his money from the ANC." Don't just blame the ANC for being greedy...what about this home owner..this is a disgusting amount for a home in Bloemfontein nogal...I hope they don't get payed!!! Then at least this one greedy fool in that one horse town won't get our hard earned tax money!!!

      mc.segal.5 - 2012-12-10 13:21

      Were not accusing this homeowner of being greedy.....he is taking a fat chance 65K is peanuts to ask . The house will be buggered...

      charmaine.paterson1 - 2012-12-10 21:34

      It can't be much of a home if they are willing to let politicians stay in it.

      HenryMoorcroft - 2012-12-11 15:29

      If you know they are going to bugger up your home why let them stay there?? Come on...it is ALL about the money!!!!

  • Moi - 2012-12-10 12:22

    No payment, no booking. It's as simple as that!

      Erna - 2012-12-10 16:41

      Of course it is.