ANC paid Shivambu's legal fees

2012-06-25 10:15

Johannesburg - The ANC has paid a punitive costs award against suspended ANCYL spokesperson Floyd Shivambu, arising from a recent hate speech case in the Equality Court, the Star newspaper reported on Monday.

"We have been funding that case from day one," ANC treasurer general Mathews Phosa told the newspaper.

"We [the ANC] fund all the youth league cases," he said.

The case against Shivambu related to an incident in May 2010 when he called political journalist Carien du Plessis a "white bitch" in an SMS.

Phosa said he had been contacted by the sheriff of the court about Shivambu's failure to settle the punitive costs award made against him in the case.

Shivambu unaware of payment

"I never phoned the messenger of court, he called me. He said, 'I have a warrant of execution [against Shivambu]' and I said 'no, let's try and do it another way to avoid embarrassment'," he said.

Shivambu told the Sunday Independent he did not know about Phosa's payment, which was made earlier this month.

"No one told me about it. I was not making an arrangement to pay it because I did not owe anybody. No one ever contacted me to tell me that I owed money."

He told the newspaper he would call Phosa to withdraw the payment because he had not made an agreement with him in this respect.

Out of court settlement

Du Plessis was suing Shivambu for R100 000 in damages on hate speech charges she brought against him following an SMS exchange in May 2010.

In the SMS he wrote: "You must learn to respect people. I don’t comment on ANCYL issues and please stop being stupid. I wouldn’t want to earn respect from white bitches, so dream on."

However, in April they reached an out of court settlement, which included an admission and apology by Shivambu.

Although it contained no monetary component, it stipulated that Shivambu pay Du Plessis' "taxed party and party costs in respect of the trial which was set down for 24 April 2012".

Shivambu was suspended from the ANC and ANC Youth League president Julius Malema was expelled from the party earlier this year after lengthy disciplinary action by the ANC.

  • Bardy - 2012-06-25 10:24

    No wonder all these ANCYL pr!cks say what they want to say, cause if they get into trouble, the mother-body will get them out of it! This is absolutely BS! More tax payers money being used other than the country's well being!

      procold2 - 2012-06-25 10:29

      its the african way bardy and if we dont stand up to it it will carry on, stand up und use your votes wisly people.

      Junebugg - 2012-06-25 10:35

      Why is this news?? I would assume if Andile Sibiya goes to Court NFP is going to pay fees, If Lindiwe Mazibuko goes to Court the DA will pay the legal fees...etc. Floyd is under the ANC and he was sued while on logically the ANC will pay his legal fees as well...duuuuh

      poloyatonkim - 2012-06-25 10:38

      Are you saying if you child gets into trouble you wont help him out, i think thats plan stupid.

      Michaele - 2012-06-25 10:44

      Bardy, Quite correct, the problem I have with this response from the ANC [Mathews Phosa] is that the ANC do not do the funding, it is the 4 million taxpayers of this country who do so!!

      DanielDennett - 2012-06-25 10:47


      Junebugg - 2012-06-25 10:57

      @blignault.michaele Those are serious allegations, why don't you report it to the police if you got the proof? or forward it to the DA, they are serious for fighting corruption..Save our tax money?? or you just assuming?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 11:26

      Junebugg, where were you yesterday when the debate here was about the incompetent Minisiter of Education?. Hypocrite, that's what you are.

      Junebugg - 2012-06-25 11:46

      @jacqui.daanevanrensburg - This has nothing to do with the minister of education stick to the point...please see my comment I posted when the first story broke out about text book last week: "Angie Motshekga has decline the DA's ofer to sponsor vehicles to deliver textbooks in Limpopo.ANC basically says pride over children's future.Its amazing she is still employed" Unfortunately I have a life I dont live on this forum to comment on every article, now can you explain based on my comments on this article how you came to a conclusion that I am a hypocrite... FYI The story is about floyd and ANC .Please explain how you came to Angie

      james.whyte.104 - 2012-06-25 11:50

      Sweet. Cat fight! Lets get it on

  • Nicholas - 2012-06-25 10:24

    Once again, no accountability.

      dennis.vermaak.5 - 2012-06-25 11:09

      It is time we voted these corrupt commies out for good !!

  • Michael - 2012-06-25 10:25

    Floyed ShivambWHO?

      tgif.wtfaw - 2012-06-25 10:38

      Floyd ANC ShivambWhore !

      paul.c.wadsworth - 2012-06-25 11:46

      That photo just tells the whole story!!

      Robin - 2012-06-25 20:09

      Yeah, he looks bored with politics. Give the kid a toy

  • rvn.pwnt - 2012-06-25 10:25


  • njdejager - 2012-06-25 10:29

    No surprise really. Thats how the ANC works. Waste waste watse.

  • sharon.truebodyvice - 2012-06-25 10:30


      jimmy.kirkwood.1 - 2012-06-25 11:22

      Once you are taxed the money belongs to the STATE moron. The ANC is one Political Party in South Africa, NOT I repeat NOT the state. Although sometimes one can hardly tell the difference, Remember 4 out of 10 voters voted for some one else, NOT the ANC Thieves.

  • Deon - 2012-06-25 10:36

    It sounds like Faulty towers: "I know nothing"

      Kenna - 2012-06-25 11:11

      Except nobody smacks anyone on the head.... Poor Manuel.

      alan.gernet - 2012-06-25 11:22


      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 11:28

      Deon. "I know nothing" was Hogan's Heros much beloved Schultz.

  • Erna - 2012-06-25 10:38

    So even when suspended the anc covers your ass 'to avoid embarrassment'! And that is why anc cadres get away with literally murder. And they don't consider that embarrassing?

  • Henk - 2012-06-25 10:39

    With our Tax Money! WTF!!!!??????

  • SongzJ - 2012-06-25 10:53

    Gosh! Hayi this ANC is getting away with a lot of things and the rest of us r just puppets! They tax the companies that employ us and they tax us again for being employed by the very same companies! There's money to pay for all the court cases but no money to pay for roads, schools, no textbooks. Etc.\r\nR WE REALLY THAT VOICELESS IN THIS COUNTRY! SAD!

  • winifred.watson.9 - 2012-06-25 10:59

    so that tells us the ANC condones what these idiotes do and say. Whats the purpose of taking them to court they are only wasting the taxpayers money. This is definetly a ONE SIDED government, nothing for the people all for themselves.

  • Kenna - 2012-06-25 11:12

    A question - forgive my ignorance. Would this be taxpayers' money or does the ANC have its own source of funds? If tax money I am going to be brewing my own alcohol and buying cheap smokes and getting all my veggies off people on the corners of streets. If not, where does the ANC get its money? Shouldn't it be transparent who funds them?

      jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 11:29

      Thinking Chick. Tax payers money and lots of devious investments.

      master.triston - 2012-06-25 11:41

      The A.N.C has its own coffers it cannot use government funds for party issues thus saying it's coffers are boosted by membership fees R12.00 a year. and donations from big business all the big boys donate to leading political parties. As we have seen from a certain trust fund of a certain individual. It is norm for donations or gratuities to be paid for tenders But to end I think they should pay that 19000000.00 Rand owed to that Printing company

      Kenna - 2012-06-25 12:18

      It's a shame I can't decide where my tax money goes. I mean, I would go for fewer potholes, better education, policing and health. Not this rubbish.

      themba.thwala.98 - 2012-06-25 14:21

      The ANC supposedly has a number of businessmen who pay some of their profits (in return for tenders, think Robert Gumemde and his GijimaAst, Shabir Shaik,etc) into its private coffers. It also has Chancellor House which it uses to invest and raise funds. I don't see how as a party the ANC can lawfully use taxpayers' money with impunity i -only as a government are they able to have access to taxpayers' money which Treasury allocates to departments.\r\n\r\nBut hey, who am I to prevent retards from having their say and express their ignorance. It's a free country, and they have the constitutional right to do so.

  • thebe.tau - 2012-06-25 11:14

    Jacob Zuma: I like MTN. News24: Zuma has declared war against VodaCom

      alan.gernet - 2012-06-25 11:25

      Er - I would have thought him to be show favour towards "Cell" C??? Or Cell B?

  • jacqui.daanevanrensburg - 2012-06-25 11:24

    Avoid embarrassment said Phosa. Yeah right Go ahead embarrass yourself even more.

  • daniel.jacobs.3766 - 2012-06-25 11:30

    And so the ANC shows its real colours.

  • Gavin - 2012-06-25 11:32

    it is so easy to speak hate when you don't have to pay the f'ing bill. the ANC's atm is SARS funded by you and I - f__k that idea.

  • Nyiks11 - 2012-06-25 11:36

    big brotha got ya baaaaaack boeta!

  • Pieter - 2012-06-25 11:42

    No one respect these drunken bastards, they just demand it like everything else

  • Juan - 2012-06-25 11:53

    So then we take it the ANC approves of the youth leauge's behaviour. As long as they don't insult zoomer the rest is all fair game.

  • Sharon - 2012-06-25 11:54

    You mean the tax payer has paid for it, seeing as it's the ANC who take all our money!!

  • merven.halo - 2012-06-25 11:56

    '"We [the ANC] fund all the youth league cases," he said.' Any more proof that the ANC support Genocide?

  • sngcobo2 - 2012-06-25 12:00

    This government, wow with our tax payers money

  • colin.mcclarty - 2012-06-25 12:00

    Carry on using taxpayers money for this nonsense & the few remaining taxpayers will pay no more!!

  • somikazi.pita - 2012-06-25 12:06

    What's the story here? He was in the leadership of the ANCYL, so the ANC was suppose to pay for the legal fees.

  • Fanie - 2012-06-25 12:17

    And still to arrogant to just say THANK YOU Mr Phosa!

  • braamc - 2012-06-25 12:20

    Pathetic, can't, or rather won't pay there bills - rubbish

  • crazyjourno - 2012-06-25 12:27

    Lekker Carien, lekker!!

  • monique.jackson0 - 2012-06-25 12:29

    I am going to join the ANCYL, say what I want and let the tax payers pay my legal fees. mwahahahahahahhahahahahahaha!

  • Bruce - 2012-06-25 12:54

    And the ANC owes millions in advertising!

  • sediko.rakolote - 2012-06-25 13:30

    The A.N.C has its own coffers it cannot use government funds for party issues thus saying it's coffers are boosted by membership fees R12.00 of more than 1 million members and donations.Furthermore has a big company called Chancellor House. It does not need your little tax to sort its financial issues. Amandla

  • smaabe - 2012-06-25 16:06


  • jack.kukard - 2012-06-25 16:16

    You spot on poly they are dumb children.....

  • Johan - 2012-06-25 17:17

    Note how repentant and remorseful the man is!

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